cnn.com
Where were you when Trump betrayed his followers to ride on the Koch cock?
cnn.com
Where were you when Trump betrayed his followers to ride on the Koch cock?
It's just semantics b/c of a constitutional issue. He doesn't want to get the ban overturned by the SCOTUS saying it wasn't based on specific nations, but based on religion.
It's not like it wasn't expected. I'll be happy if he cleans house at the FBI and DHS then lets them off the leash when it comes to tearing apart mosques and the people in them. He better follow through on deportations though.
I'm fine with it. I don't care if he reverses every single one of his policies as long as he wins.
>Backtracks on removing taco
>Backtracks on removing kebab
>Sup Forums will still unironically worship him
How long before the wall becomes metaphorical?
Have you even read Art of the Deal? This was easy to see coming.
>make proposal you know many will find ridiculous
>make more "reasonable" proposal later
>people are more likely to accept the "reasonable" proposal because you first made a more "ridiculous" proposal
Classic Trump tactics bro.
>Trump would ban immigrants coming from countries with known terrorism links, training and equipment.
Well, that's better than NOT banning immigrants from those countries, right?
I think he will. He's playing mind games with the media after all. He's doing this to twist their perception around
t. Idiot
He's just going to do what Obama did 5 years ago - put a hold on refugees from war torn Middle Eastern countries.
Anyone, at this point, who didn't know that this is what he meant a year ago are complete and utter morons whether they support Trump or not.
>clickbait title
now we're just banning muslim nations. exact same thing. fuck off shills
Nothing matters only the his SCTOUS pick matters. When conservative justice like Kennedy have cucked us, we need Trump to pick Scalia type justices.
I suspect he will too but my expectations are intentionally low so I won't be disappointed if he doesn't. I'm basically voting for a conservative Supreme Court justice or two at this point and anything the Donald actually follows through on is just gravy.
Everyone with a brain (specially Scott Adams, who called this very early on) realises that he is just playing the media to put himself on the spotlight every week. Only liberal retards believe that he is actually a crazy, hot-headed guy and takes his words at face value.
And also what says. Obama was totally opposed to even increasing security measures against refugees some months ago. Now Trump is being called a "moderate" for wanting to stop immigration from muslim countries (or at least increasing heavily the vetting process from there), and for not deporting every single undocumented mexican. All those articles arguing against deportation, how unpractical it is, how costly, etc.? Completely pointless now.
Proposals which would be labeled as radical less than a year ago now are seen as tame and moderate, plus he gets to play the "I can learn from mistakes" card, deflating the accusations of authoritarianism and craziness.
>CNN says its unconstitutional to ban muslims
>MFW
SHOW ME WHERE YOU FAGGOTS
>won't ban muslims
>will ban from terrorist countries
whats the difference?
semantics my friend.
I hate to break it to you, xenophobias, but 90% of Congress think Trump is a nut job. They'll block the wall, block any large scale deportations and block a Muslim ban. And, by some chance, if any of it looks like it might become law, constitutional lawyers will tie it up in court for years.
he doesn't need congress approval
1st amendment ya poof. This requires a religious test IE asking tourists and immigrants "are you a muslim"? That is massively unconstructed
Funny enough, he could ban ethnicities like Arabs and south Asians: he's just not allowed to ask them about their faith.
Trump is a genius, we're just catching up this chess plays.
Huh, really makes ya think!
I'm a Hilldawg now!
>he doesn't need congress approval
This. REQUESTING THE PICTURE WITH THE STATUTE GRANTING EXECUTIVE POWERS TO STOP IMMIGRATION IN INTEREST OF NATIONAL SECURITY
God you people are idiots. Of course he was never going to literally ban an entire religion. You just can't fucking do that.
He speaks in hyperbole to get votes. We know this.
If you actually want to ban Islam then you're just fucking stupid. The reason we like Trump on Sup Forums is because we realize that he is in reality a less extreme version of the person he portrays to the masses.
*massively unconstitutional
love it
White House here we come
consitution applies to citizens
>XD Guys he isn't even banning muslims anymore! Just everyone from Muslim countries!!
>This is anything but an improvement.
Is Sup Forums retarded? Who posts these threads?
It makes sense and i hope you are fucking right.
If it is, Trump is a genius.
He never said he would institute a religion test. The media assumed he would do that based on his rhetoric. Now that we see what his actual policy is, which is banning countries of terror, the media is trying to spin this as a flip. Fact is the media got it wrong. They are just trying to find a new way to attack Trump.
So we can arrest foreigners and not give them due process/habeas corpus/right to remain silent under the 4th and 5th amendments?
So does that mean that a tourist is not allowed to say anything while visiting under the 1st amendment?
Come on, don't be this fucking dense
shills my friend
>1st amendment ya poof.
American rights do not apply to foreigners not in our country. We have no obligation to let anyone in, and can refuse entry for any reason we choose.
>He never said he would institute a religion test
True, but it is heavily implied. Pardon my autism, but how do we know exactly who is a Muslim? Yes, there are Muslim majority countries. But how how do we know that Mr. Shoukieh from Lebanon is a Muslim? He could be a Christian or a Druze for all we know. This means we have to ask them. And this is a form of religious testing.
I feel trump's plan will be something like "if you're coming from Egypt, and we've seen a lot of shit going down in Egypt, I don't think we want to, or will, let your kind it. Or at the least, we're gonna vet you harder than other nationals, and we're gonna keep an eye on you. You're in our home after all".
I hope it is this, word for word. Seems logical enough to me
getting elected
You are definitely the product of an American education.
Wow good points friend
Go Hillary
>American rights do not apply to foreigners not in our country.
That's more like it. I agree, so I guess it would be up to constitutional lawyers to decide whether foreigners not yet in the U.S. Would have 1st amendment rights. You and I both know the answer to that, but this is current year America, which is why it is vital for Trump to win
>1st amendment
Nope nothing about "thou shalt not ban Muhammadeans"
Try again though. Plus it wouldn't apply to non Americans
Doesn't matter. If Trump personally saved a baby in a fire the media would say he did it just so he could brag about it. If it was a muslim baby that distinction would not be reported. If it was a white baby they'd say something about white supremacy. Media controls this country and there's no way to fix it. Even if there was most people just don't care so long as they get to watch their Batman movies and reality tv shows.
It's over. Turn off the lights. Bring out the clean up crew. We're done for.
...
>what is gitmo
>what is patriot act
Sage
He should've done it from the beginning. Saying "illegal immigrants" instead of "Mexican immigrants" and "refugees" instead of "Muslims" would've kept the left from using it as an attack. Everyone knew what he meant, but they're using the way he said it. It's like arguing with a woman. She knows she's wrong, knows what you meant, but you made a tiny slip in your delivery and that's all she's dwelling on. Because she has nothing.
>non-citizens get constitutional rights
hahaha
Couldn't they assume every Arab is a Muslim ?
I'm sure every Russian wasn't a Communist spy but we they weren't given the benefit of the doubt where they?
>there's no way to fix it
Gas the kikes.
>I hate to break it to you, xenophobias, but 90% of Congress think Trump is a nut job.
WHERE IS THE PROOFS LEAF ?
>They'll block the wall
en.wikipedia.org
This was in 2006 kid
>block any large scale deportations
you mean what obongo is doing as president and breaking federal law against its own citizens because you know you are breaking the law when crossing the border ILLEGALY
>and block a Muslim ban.
I am not even gonna explain this when he now said that he is banning immigration from countries with terrorist ties so muslim immigration
ITT: Trumpfags say how amazing of a move this is and how it proves his political savvy that'll lead him to a win in November.
>t. scared of trump for some reason
Yes, and do you have any evidence to the contrary?
You shills are fucking stupid
>LOL TRUMP WILL ONLY DO 95% OF SOMETHING NOT 100% TRUMPFAGS BTFO
It's all about having anyone who will reverse any level of Obama era insanity. Hillary will accellerate in the other direction.
Ryan is proof that the rest of the GOP intended to fiddle at the edges about capitalism but were largely fine with the demographic collapse of the USA
Read and In that specific order
This.
First of all
>CNN
Second of all, this is actually a brilliant move on Trump's part if true because 1) It sounds like a much more reasonable position to a GE audience and 2) Hillary can't call him out on backtracking because that implies she supports the ban.
Cause gun bans work so well, huh?
read this fucking retards:
see
>So we can arrest foreigners and not give them due process/habeas corpus/right to remain silent under the 4th and 5th amendments?
If they are outside the US, yes.
>So does that mean that a tourist is not allowed to say anything while visiting under the 1st amendment?
If a foreigner came here on a visa and started turning Americans against each other or against the government, then yes they can revoke his visa and kick his ass out for being illegal.
I was always 99.9% certain that Trump's ban would mean "keep people the fuck out from Afghanistan, Saudi Arabia, etc." not "figure out who from Canada and Britain are muslims."
>that reading comprehension
In my post I explicitly stated that a blanket ban/vet of certain countries is the best idea. If a North Korean were to come to the U.Sz would I give them the benefit of the doubt? Fuck no, they can go back.
It's the whole "are you a Muslim" thing which WILL NOT FLY (kek) anywhere and will ruin everything
Once again, trump proving to be ahead of the curve
It literally doesn't matter. There is literally absolutely nothing Trump could do that would lose my loyalty.
One people, one nation, one leader.
Hey, I never said the executive/legislative branch likes to uphoald the constitution. Ever heard of gun control?
You forgot that the internet is what enabled donald trump and pernie zanders in the first place. They don't control that. Meme magic will save us all.
Will he just be Hilary lite in his final form? He's undergoing rapid evolution that would rival influenza strains.
>In the wake of this month's shooting at an Orlando gay nightclub, Trump has focused on the need to ban Muslims from "terror states" -- instead of all Muslims.
Funny he never said to ban all Muslims, he said they have to be vetted before being allowed.
Now he said the same thing again but media actually wrote what he said?
Ironically enough Trump is probably the most centrist guy to run for the office in a long, long time.
Foreigners do not have constitutional rights.
Yes, because they are not American citizens so the Bill of Rights does not apply to them.
Because all our guns come from foreign countries, right? Fucking retard.
Trump is a kike cuckold but you guys already knew that.
Like a lot if the things he said they are poorly expressed he could have said countries that support muslim extremism or whatever
Ok, cumin breath. Didn't mean to contribute.
The president has the power to block and group of alien he deems hostile to the United States, Mr. Genius.
More like Donald Cuck
I never understood why he singled out Muslims in the first place.
All he had to say is "We need to put a temporary hold on refugees and immigrants coming from countries that have a high contribution of terrorist suspects."
The government is full of fucktards. Time to go full accelerationist. Trump is a civic nationalist kike
Notice how you're one off quads?
It's because you're a fucking faggot who takes a CNN headline and actually believes their portrayal of what he said.
He never once said he'd ban every Muslim. He never said he'd ID Muslims or genocide them.
He always was specifically vague on who because he could sell the idea as he has numerous times. This is a classic tactic from Trump.
He wants to ban immigration from risky shitkin countries. This was assumed by most every intelligent person outside of fucking progressive/SJW/liberals who believed he'd be Sup Forums incarnate.
Use your brain. Rand said the same thing, but no one cared. Saying "ban Muslims" gets the media machine rolling and free press.
I'm all down for any restrictions on immigration and Trump is the only one with the balls to do it.
> Trump would ban immigrants coming from countries with known terrorism links, training and equipment.
He's doing exactly what hes always been doing.
Maybe my fault is that I'm too honest and don't like to twist my words at all.
I'd be a horrible politician.
A FUCKING LEAF
A fucking cuck
I doubt people really care about what he says, they're here for the meme magic and his mad bantz.
been looking for A tread to post my PC art
Cause drug bans work so well, huh?
all you need to know
executive order 12172
US code 1182
You literally can't detect whether someone is a Muslim or not so it's not like this wasn't obvious from the beginning. Seriously tho, what kind of an idiot actually thought it was going to be "muslims" and not people from country X?
AHAHAHAAHAHAHA
Yes you can
Force them to eat pork
>Article by Jeremy (((Diamond)))
Fear of racism and bigotry is going to cost us our Western Civilization
At some point, we are going to have to take off these pathological tolerance gloves, and face our enemies...OR our way of life is going to perish
t. cuck
>Donald Trump may be finally gearing up to do what many Republican leaders have hoped: soften his rhetoric and pivot to the center.
>He hasn't done that yet.
It's fucking nothing. All he's doing is going from blanket statements the common plebe can digest to specifics more befitting actual policy.
CNN's not afraid to be flat out wrong about Trump when they aren't putting political spin on everything he does. Why should their opinionated speculation hold any sway?
What does Sup Forums think immigration/emigration will look like under the underdog DJ or chancellor clinton? I think they will both make fine presidents. Not too effective; one towards liberty and the other towards equality, by force.
We might get some Syrians under Hillary, undocumented people will most likely have a way to apply for citizenship, immigration laws will be changed and enforced, and under Hillary our economy and foreign relations won't go into the shitter
You don't seriously believe that do you? I mean I agree that we should be tougher on certain issues and you shouldn't instantly be labelled racist. But Western Civilization is not going to disappear in a couple on generations, that's very far removed from reality, if you get all your information from Sup Forums it might look that way to you, but if you actually go out into the real world it's nowhere near as bad as you think it is.
Unless you're a white supremist devout christian, then yes your view of western civilization might be on it's way out, but that's because you're a minority in the real world, and this has happened thousands of times through history, things change.
And your "Progress" is a change for the worse
Sweden, of all people, telling me what to believe. Haha that's rich.
You don't know what kind of "progress" I'm for, all you could take from my comment is that I'm against white supremacy and religion, and luckily I'm with the majority on these issues, so I guess that's all you can judge me on.
You can ask entirely secular questions that they would be obliged to either lie on or answer truthfully in a way that would disqualify them from immigrating. For example "Do you acknowledge that the United States Constitution is the supreme law of the land and above which there can be no other law" would be a good one. You get a whole bunch of questions like that then they either answer in a way consistent with Islam and can't immigrate for entirely legal reasons or you have examiners disqualify them for "inconsistencies in their answers" if they obviously lied.
Why, because you think things here are actually just as Sup Forums describes them everyday?
Sorry to burst your bubble, things are pretty great here.