I wish I could make the call to a higher power, but it all just sounds retarded. Right now I relate to orthodox christians the most, but i cant get over how goofy the whole thing is >God made a situation where free will appears to be a thing, but he already knew what was going to happen, making the whole idea of a test of faith superficial >there are several thousand deities >no objective evidence(here i am not saying i would reject my own subjective experiences)
>God made a situation where free will appears to be a thing, but he already knew what was going to happen, making the whole idea of a test of faith superficial why is this an issue? free will and foreknowledge aren't contradictions >there are several thousand deities what's your point? >no objective evidence as is all metaphysics
Jaxon Ross
Humbling yourself and allowing yourself to look stupid is how you'll get closer to the divine
Jordan Anderson
no objective evidence? look at many worlds theory. if everything that could possibly happen is happening simultaneously, god could exist as the mechanism that holds that system together.
that would give that "god" perfectly logical and scientifically explainable reasons for that "god" to be all present, all knowing, and all powerful
Bentley Bennett
Okay, we can speculate, but what about god the pragmatist? The one in the old testament that was talking to fuckers left and right
Joseph Bennett
this is all just speculation though. Many worlds theory is ad hoc. What OP seems to be saying is that he wants to believe in God but can't find hard evidence for the belief. He's misguided in thinking God is empirically verifiable.
Nolan Rogers
>Show me a God
Owen Bennett
again, if there's every possibility happening at every given time, then there are scenarios where, depending on which of these "many worlds" you're in, some literal voice from "the heavens" may have come and said an infinite number of things to humanity, including nothing at all. there would exist an eventuality for every possible conversation it could have had with man.
James Sullivan
>free will and foreknowledge aren't contradictions Yes, they are
If God created us with the foreknowledge of all his creation's actions, then we are basically just carrying out God's massive computer program and our free will is a lie