The anti Slav/Romanian feeling made mainstream with Brexit proves further one thing that I always said: the generic...

The anti Slav/Romanian feeling made mainstream with Brexit proves further one thing that I always said: the generic white identity is a US fabrication.

Western Europe embraced it partly mostly since when non-white immigration grew (meaning, not only the usual immigration from colonies) and was a bit boosted further when the White Power phenomena gained popularity in the late 1970's. Nevertheless, people here in Europe have been hating and killing each other for too long for skin colour to matter much when it comes to anything significant.

As an example of what I understand as a big misconception, it is quite ridiculous to see neo-nazis in the US and Eastern Europe treating the NSDAP ideals as some sort of a general pro-white thing, as if they had a greater plan for all the white population.

My point, although racial identity started to mean a bit more in the latest decades in Western Europe the national feeling and the notion that your neighbor can become your enemy overnight is still in the roots of the ethos of Western European nations. Would love to read your thoughts on it.

This is fucking shill threads.
Every proud slav fixes his troubles on his own.
Some one giving you shit where are you from?
Break his fucking leg

>hey piotr, watcha doin?

the social construct of 'the white race' in New world countries doesnt apply outside of there
the USA uses this construct to assimilate other non-anglo europeans

What is shill about it, slav comrade?

i am not whining about the anti-slav thing. The discussion I propose is about national/regional vs. wide racial identity.

Pretty much what I meant in the OP. This notiuon has been sort of imported into some places in Eastern Europe, though. My guess, in order to try and be a part of something bigger than our fucked up panelak reality back in the early 90's.

i think it's essential that we keep the non-american 'white' world not associated with white americans as a group
kind of hard to do since we teach english as a secondary language to our children since 1st grade, before they even develop a national identity

You have a point and a good one. The thing is that, although the generic white identity spread by the US , at least for now, seems to be mostly on the surface out of America.

I get what you are saying but I don't think it holds ground.
In the past this sense of unity was mostly expressed through religion. Other things you can think of are language, music, food, common enemies.

Skin colour is a part of it, especially when it comes to male/female relations or attractiveness.

When comparing it to personal relations you can compare other whites to a pleasant coworker. Maybe you both dislike too much chatting and enjoy the same music. That does not mean you want him to come over to your house for a coffee without an invitation. Then there are coworkers you hate and/or have nothing in common with, which would be completely different cultures and races.

In Australia Whites are half divided between Anglo and Irish, and a White racial identity served us well (and was always understood as Anglo-Celtic) for 160 years.

All Australian political parties accepted and implemended a "White Australia Policy" to limit immigration to Whites only until the 1960s when certain (((things))) happened in every White country to dismantle our racial identity happened here too.

So it's not only an American thing. A White racial identity worked here well in Australia too to unite Anglos and Irish together, much like in the US it united Anglos, Irish, Germans and others together.

Diversity decreases social cohesiveness.

I should have mentioned other non American colonized countries. I consider them too. Nevertheless, the genericwhite feeling I talk about, although existing in ither places, spreads mostly from the US. And it makes sense in the colonies, I just do not think it goes much beneath the surface in Western Europe.

Yes but how does it relate to the issue?

>Then there are coworkers you hate and/or have nothing in common with, which would be completely different cultures and races.

I understand and do not disagree entirely. Nevertheless I do not think the skin colour thing represent any bond as significant as it seems to mean in the US.

>The anti Slav/Romanian feeling


You mean anti slav/gypsy feeling?

You have not left Romania a lot lately, have you? Of course gypsy is included but do not expect much love for non-gypsy Romanians either.

>slavs
>white

I'd just make the point again that in Australia it was always, from the 19th century to the 1960s, semi-officially called a "White Australia Policy", and Australia explicitly had a White racial identity. So the use White as a racial term is older than you are giving credit, and has enjoyed mainstream national support in the past too, it's not an identity of fringe Americans invented 40 years ago.

Also consider White settlement in Africa, which post-colonially has always considered itself White, as opposed to the Blacks (and Indians and Arabs), not only in South Africa and Rhodesia, but places like Kenya too. It was the racial identity of those people too.

Think back to what race is. It's the next step above family to describe your set of common ancestors with whom you share a genetic lineage of thousands of years. A smaller racial identity/tribe, loke being an Anglo or Czech is the immeadiate next racial step up.

But if you have more than one tribe to unite, then you go a step above that on the racial tree, perhaps all Germanics or all Slavs. If you have to unite those people of different macro-tribes, then you go a step above that on the racial tree and go to a White identity.

A White identity is a real racial identity, and it does and has worked in the real world. We do share a lineage of thousands of years, albeit a thousand or two (or less) less than we share with members of our immediate tribes.

You probably went blind from all that light reflecting from the snow if you are saying that slavs aren't white

There was always anti-Slav sentiment in Western Europe.

Sup Forums just ignored it.

I do not dispute anything you have just written. Plus, none of it is my opinion but an observation of European identities.

I do not think it is not a real identity, I just think it is much less strong than what people expect in Western Europe.

slavs are whites mixed with asians, hitler just wanted the rape the asian genes out of slavs

Exactly! Not only Sup Forums but pretty much every place when discussions are mostly based on an North-American viewpoint.

so what if a ww2 german fought against americans and his grandson now lives in america and is completely assimilated by the anglos?
I dont see that as a good thing
by the logic of things a german should respect a japanese or some african country who sided with nazi germany, more than he should respect the british
race is irrelevant outside of the New World, while racism is institutionalized over there

i heard that ppl redo that graffiti apologizing to poles.

poles need to fuck off britian. those pieces of shit better come back and fix this shithole. want as big payment as in uk ? get rid of those fucking income taxes and forced healthcare. Reduce the goverment. But noo better run and fix toilets. fuck polacks.

speak for yourself

Bull shit there is no anti slav element in the British far right, Anglo nationalists some of the friendliest people you'll meet.

The problem with eastern european immigrants is they come to another european ethno state (sometimes in large numbers) and then don't want to become british. If you're coming there anglicise yourself fully and forget about your polish identity. Imagine if you were british, you have foreigners who look like you come in but they insist on always speaking their foreign language, stick to their clique and don't want to become part of your society. It's only fair, no?

>slavs are whites mixed with asians

Which slavs? It certainly apply to spme groups but is definitely not a majority.

Plus, your notion of the NSDAP plans is pretty much the misconception I told you about. No, they did not have great fraternal plans for the Czech lands.

except that british dont move in slavic countries en masse
and the slavic countries which invested resources in educating the young, has to permanently say goodbye to them if it lets them assimilate
so no it isnt fair for them to lose their polish identity

It's just that picking on brownies is too politically incorrect for the average britcuck, not mentioning the legal consequences. So now it's open season for slav hunt since that's the only acceptable target.

Many will go back and guess by what they will be replaced (because those lost jobs will need replacement)?
Brown and black, mostly muslim permanent residents.

Don't be fooled, aside from the Swede, there's no more cuck than a Brit.

genetically northern poles are the ideal from of european imo. slav is just a language group im just using the term generally
of course they did. czechs were considered aryan and were to be assimilated directly into the german reich there were just some foreign racial characteristics they wanted to breed out as their was even within the established german state.

>It's just that picking on brownies is too politically incorrect for the average britcuck
this
niggers basically mullatoe'd their country and they cant say anything about it and act like its romanians fault

Dude, "anti-Polish" sentiment isn't nearly as common as you think.
Don't let a couple shitposters on Sup Forums fool you.
The Polish are just being hijacked by the left because they want to make it seem like Brexit made Britain more "racist."

>there is no anti slav element in the British far right

That kind of wishful thinking from Eastern Europe is pretty much what I meant here: . Part of Wester Europe embraced this American model of racial identity in order to feel like they are part of something greater than a fucked up land of panelak, gypsies and cheap whores.

>foreigners who look like you

Dude, I can identify some slav groups, like poles and Ukrainians from miles away.

fuck off you leftist shill. the polish support refugees and immigration if they are in the UK. day of the rope. every one knew it was a thing

as far as romanian they are not white. they are gypos. partially middle eastern. its why the gypos support the muslims

but hey you go cry in the corner all you like tyrome there will never be another black president and your choices this time are all white

>The Polish are just being hijacked by the left

Come on, dude...

If they don't want to drop their slavic identity they should get fucked by the nationalists, I don't pity any slavs who got attacked after brexit.

>Africa

I don't think so, Boers hated Poms more than they disliked blacks despite both being white

>there will never be another black president and your choices this time are all white

Man, I have never set foot in the US. Do you even flags?

Besides that, you might be right and nothing what you just wrote conflicts with the OP. The issue is another entirely.

Where did the idea of shitskins hating poles come from? Only white people hate poles.

slavs are not white... Turks are more aryan than slavs.

oh, why didnt you just say you are albanian

>Dude, I can identify some slav groups, like poles and Ukrainians from miles away.

I have czech friends, you all look diverse with no consistent look. Some look southern european, others nordic, I could never guess other than if I watch behavior = all crazy

I think you're right. European countries have a long history, their own culture and language. Just consider how important it is for some countries that they have their "own" language, when in reality it's just a dialect of a regional language.
Maybe the racial identity is not just restricted to the single nation, but extended to "pan-slawism" or "pan-germanism" but thats it. there is no "white" racial identity in europe.

But I believe that will change. Look at the statistic of the percentage of the world population that is of european descend- I think its somewhere around 10-15%. That will shrink. Drastically.
And with some of the elites (mostly western european and currently led by germany) trying to import african and asian populations into europe- there is a real chance that europeans will leave their dividing history behind and, confronted with a demographic threat, see common ground in their european- or white- genetic heritage.
It maybe one of the few positive consequences of the current development.

There is no one more Aryan than Slavs

>but do not expect much love for non-gypsy Romanians either.

A romanian who don't steal or beg (ie. who is not a gypsy) is just viewed like any other slav.

If you immigrate to another country without assimilating 100% you're a rapefugee

the anti-polish thing is a media divide and conquer thing

on an individual level, why should I assimilate?
why shouldnt I raise my kids teaching them the language of our family's ancestors alongside the country im staying in?
what benefit do I have from assimilating into a foreign culture?

That's because you (and me) live in a country, where there is no race tension, having 95% european whites, 2% vietnamese and 1% gipsies. (thanks to Hitler who cleared jews and Churchil who cleared germans out of our country, both leaders being the same villains...)

In eastern Europe:

There is no problem with vietnamese, who are even more honest (and diligent) than domestic people, there is a small tension with gipsies, who are usually not honest (cz:nejsou cestný) and do not have a conscience (even not between friends, they cheat as a "sport"), at least not at the level our slavic people do. But now, as mudslimes are comming, we will start to appreciate old good gipsies...

There are no african blacks here, because slovans did not trade with slaves. It was always the monopoly of jews, who traded with slaves and prostitution, most notably the triangle-trade between England, Africa and America, sending glass garbage, slaves and sugar in the triangle from 16th century...

And the main part of imigration problem is, that both the muslim and african invaders are ruthless (cz:bezohledný), to their women, to nature, to all different believers), they are by 2-3 thousand years back in evolution, missing the "conscience" (cz:nemají ješte "svedomí") as the main attribute of truly modern (not only but mainly Slovan) humanity...

So with this experience, in the country, where there is no race tension yet, there still is a national tension with neighbours - if you remove all hard pains, the small pains start to be felt better... That's why you think, that different nations pose problems to you more than races...

That is true. I say the same about southern slavs, Bulgarians and others. I meant precisely poles and ukrainians. For some reason they seem to be more homogeneous when it comes to appearance than other slav groups.

2:
I finally started to appreciate german fellows, when being massively presented with something a lot more foreign...

And about black/white - rather brown/pink: Currently there is a Genocide going on, the "Calergi plan" to create light-brown afro-asiatic non-nation of future European peoples without roots in traditions, that will be much more easily governed. Koudenhove-Calergi is father of EU and this is very precisely, what he planned... And the Jews (headed now by a jewess A. Kazmierczak Merkel - really "spoil the peace") are executing this genocide of european nations...

There was a joke about government "exchanging the people", if there are mutual problems. Now this "joke" is becoming the reality...

I agree. The main reason for the black/white divide has been the races living beside each other in antagonistic relationship. Whites as foreign invaders or slave masters.
European whites have long know about other races, but they have had no real impact on everyday life. In Norway black people where exotic rarities well into the 1980's and no one has had to worry about negroid uprisings and the like.
Russia and other European countries have been the worry of the common man.
Another point is that slavery created a common identity for American blacks. Robbed of the tribal identities that rule Africa they have become an force so great that there is no room for white tribalism.
That being said, there is a common European identity it's just not very strong.
The anti-slav thing is just working class antagonism born from competing over the same jobs, it will pass. The anti romanian feeling is class contempt for gypsies and beggars.

Because then you're an invader, you just highlighted the core of the problem without realizing it.

All those millions of people come in acting like you mentioned, with loyalty to a foreign country and eroding all bits of local culture. Then expecting the locals to NOT show hostility.

>Maybe the racial identity is not just restricted to the single nation, but extended to "pan-slawism" or "pan-germanism" but thats it. there is no "white" racial identity in europe.

I can make your words mine. Yes, that is pretty much it.

Funny thing is that, according to this thread, for non-Europeans it seems difficult to even conceive that idea.

About the future, nbot so sure. people still understand Merkel's stand on the refugee thing as a "German" thing and they are not happy. In CZ, as an example, even people in groups like Antifa see that as maneuver to attract cheap labor regardless of what that can do to the rest of the population. Been in germany a few times lately and there people actually seem to believe it is all about humanitarianism.

>All those millions of people come in acting like you mentioned, with loyalty to a foreign country and eroding all bits of local culture. Then expecting the locals to NOT show hostility.
that would be the way to do it yes
if the country is opening up like a pussy and not expecting to get used then its their leaders fault

Yes, you are quite precise and correct, I have nothing to add. Your post is quite accurate and I share the same opinion in most aspects.

By the way, I see a growing number of muslims but not non-arab Africans. Most black people I meet in CZ (which means less than a dozen) are usually from US/UK and to be honest most of them are more assimilated into local culture and habits than gypsies.

>Think back to what race is. It's the next step above family to describe your set of common ancestors with whom you share a genetic lineage of thousands of years. A smaller racial identity/tribe, loke being an Anglo or Czech is the immeadiate next racial step up.


I think it would go Family

Because your kids will be abominations. They will have no natural place in either their home country or the home of their ancestors. You will doom them to be aparte in society, and that generally speaking is a bad place to be.
Ask the jews how it ends, they have some experience in this field.

>Australians
>White

Pick one and only one, Mungo. I've only ever seen such swarthy "white" people in South America and Australia. Stop lying about your meme policies.

>Ask the jews how it ends, they have some experience in this field.
Well it ended for them ruling the world. Can I have some of that pls?

Greatest concentration of mudslims in Czechia is around universities. In Prague, you cant really distinguish if muslims around you are tourists or students. But in Brno, there is very many muslim students studying medicine. Interestingly enough, most of them have specific London accent. In Olomouc, the only muslim prayer space in the whole city is at unversity dormitory.

It ended in a genocide and them returning to their "ancestral" land, where they are under constant threat from their neighbors.
And some of them do rule the world. But interestingly enough there are breadlines in Jerusalem, go figure. ,

Jesus christ you aren't aware that gypsies are their own ethnos? It's not just a "lifestyle". Even if a gypsy chooses to abandon his ancestral ways, he will still ethnically be a gypsy/roma

White identity is a Jewish invention.

I have been saying the "white" race is an american fiction for years and everybody thought I was just some SJW cuck.

If Europeans actually thought they were really of one race then WWI and II would not have happened and the subjugation of the Scots and Irish would never have happened.

Surely you would not subjugate your own race... oh wait.

I've always thought that "white people" is a globalist concept invented by cultureless Americans who can only identify by color.
It's hilarious how Sup Forums eats it up.
>calls himself nationalist
>cares about some abstract "white people" and not his own nation

why would you assume there would be no internal conflict?

White people = WASPs.

Scandinavians and Slavs are Mestizo Mongol/European hybrids. Southern Europeans are Mulatto-Arab-Euro hybrids.

Only the English, Dutch, and Germans are truly White.

>the generic white identity is a US fabrication.

Sherlock, is that you?

>The United States Census Bureau defines White people as those "having origins in any of the original peoples of Europe, the Middle East, or North Africa,"

pan-slavism is just as bullshit and even more artificial

Good. I despise polish traitors too. They lust money, fucking leeches.

Nice bait there, Ali.

try again shitskin

>Only the English, Dutch, and Germans are truly White
>Only the English
>English

this map is far more accurate than the phony germanic/slavic/latin linguistic classifications

damn I wish irish people were more racist

we will be, in time

>antifa trying this hard to split europeans up now that brexit happened

yeah they totally don't care more about the muslims in their country literally taking towns over and forming child rape gangs

it's the polish janitors everyone's worried about

But only Anglos are white

i agree, language is important but can be easily changed, genetics is the integral center of a culture upon which all other aspects are built

Yes! That is the point. It seems obvious for us here but for people out there in most of the "New World" seems so crazy that they are capable of calling the European notion a conspiracy. Just go through this very thread, there are good examples. Seems like they cannot even conceive the possibility.

The only reason we're not racist is because we're not swarming with blacks and shitskins

yet...

enjoy these days while they last user. You'll miss them when they're gone, and when their gone they are gone for good.

>But only Anglos are white

Russell brand is an honorary shit skin.

See? Exactly what i mean. People in the US seem to have a serious hard time even understanding the possibility of a reality where the generic white does not mean as much as it means to them.

he's 100% anglo along with this other pure white aryan

Reading the same article (Also on the bottom right corner): "Romania 621.573-2.000.000" then Romania has atleast a 1,8% or 10% minority

They rule the world. USA and UK is totally under Israels influence. The Jews that died in WW2 were the Jews who "betrayed" the Jew Tribe by assimilating with indigenous cultures. So what I'm saying is, Jews allowed to kill Jews because Jews betrayed Jews. And in the end Jews rule the world. How the fuck is this not a win scenario? Israel is not under constant threat. They use muslims as test subjects for new weapons, Israel is a big military testing facility to make profit. But this is off topic.

There is definitely an anti-Slavic sentiment and it originates from England. This sentiment is irrational, because England and Poland (which is the root place of Slavs, sorry Russia) had never waged any wars or no genocide took place or anything remotely indicative for justifying an anti-Slavic/Polish sentiment. Therefor the only reasonable conclusion is the root cause has to be irrational in nature, or originates from ancient past, or both because anything that comes from the ancient past is kinda irrational.

If you study history you can trace the anti-Slavic sentiment at least from XVIII century, starting with the First Partition of the Commonwealth of Poland, in which the British took active part behind the scenes and supported the Prussia, Russians and The Hamburgs takeover.

To understand the motives one has to trace the heritage of British Elites, which goes back to ancient Babylon - its not a good thing - And todays ruling class of Britain is a direct bloodline of Nimrod, who was responsible for the construction of The Babel Tower, from what we know was an act against God, who punished the builders, aka todays British Elites. Yeah, that means today British Elites are people cursed by God, and people who deliberately act against God. That means they cooperate with the Devil and it makes them them Bad Guys - slavery as an example. Brits have more in common with Muslims, both slave traders, than with Aryan Slavs.

Now how does it fit in the anti-Slavic sentiment? To make the long story short. 12 Tribes of Israel are a stolen notion from Slavic Mythology, which is Aryan heritage. There were 12 Tribes of Aryans and are till this day. The promised land by God is not today Israel, but Euro-Asia which were ruled by the Chosen People the Aryans for a long time. They used advanced technology, like flying Vimanas and the ability to mold solid rocks. The remaining of their rule and civilization are spread across the whole Euro-Asia continent, many in Russia which few people are aware about. For a reason unknown, the once mighty Aryan empire collapsed, and today we aren't even taught about it. The remaining of Aryan culture are now Polish and Iranian.

What does it mean to be Aryan? To answer that, we need to go back to the origins of the word itself, where does it come from and what does it mean? Aryan means the "Noble one". The "white" part in Sanskrit spirituality was relating to WHITE SPIRIT, not white skin. Being Aryan has nothing to do with skin or hair color. Blond hair and blue eyes does not make you Aryan. For example today Iran are part of Aryan culture heritage, unfortunately they were conquered by Muslims.

Being Aryan is a spiritual quality. Its a way of being, not a biological thing. Even a black dude can become Aryan if he/she develops certain spiritual qualities. Its about being a White Spirit, not a demon, like for example "white" supremacists are, or Nazis were. The white supremacy is a demonic ideology. And any white supremacist claiming they are Aryan is a liar or a fool.

But again, how does it fit into the anti-Slavic sentiment? Well, the Elites of West are the descendants of the Babel Tower builders who stood against God, and Slavs are one of the tribes of Aryans the Gods Chosen People. The rebels hate the Chosen People and this is the cause for anti-Slavic sentiment in the pit called Britain.

>because we're not swarming with blacks and shitskins

even one hijab is too much. we really need to leave the eu and be ourselves again.

My biggest fear is tonnes of shitskins leaving the UK and moving to ireland because of brexit...

otherwise.. I kinda expecting the boot to drop in europe before mudscum start thinking of coming here en masse. Europe is slowly waking up.

knock em out and throw em in the ocean,lads

>To understand the motives one has to trace the heritage of British Elites, which goes back to ancient Babylon - its not a good thing - And todays ruling class of Britain is a direct bloodline of Nimrod, who was responsible for the construction of The Babel Tower, from what we know was an act against God, who punished the builders, aka todays British Elites. Yeah, that means today British Elites are people cursed by God, and people who deliberately act against God. That means they cooperate with the Devil and it makes them them Bad Guys - slavery as an example. Brits have more in common with Muslims, both slave traders, than with Aryan Slavs.
you lost me man

One good thing about ireland is we have pretty good immigration policies by european standards. Asylum seekers get a rough time here. They have to live in hotels and are given tokens they can only use to buy food with. The waiting list is crazy long too. Not an appealing country to try to get into illegally.

I really do not think things will change much regarding non-European immigration.

Eventually there will be a tipping point. It seems bleak now because liberals are in power. But that balance can tip very suddenly. Just like brexit.

MAsylum seekers get a rough time here.
>They have to live in hotels

Dude, hotels? Really? And that is what you call a rough time?

Also, Ireland has one of the most lenient immigration policies in Europe. Have a look at policies from other countries and compare. As an example, non-EU students there are allowed to work full time.

Its quite simple. British Elites are not indigenous to British Islands. They are migrants from Babylon, The Phoenicians who rebel against God since Biblical times.

I agree it can. Just do not think leaving the EU would mean much.

And you know that how? Admittedly, a lot of anglos like John Oliver and Russel Brand look pretty semitic