Why didn't Frodo use the Ring to defeat the Balrog?

why didn't Frodo use the Ring to defeat the Balrog?

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Screw you, Tolkien, you cheap writer. You are useless shit compared to our supreme light novel/manga artists. You hear that?

Why didn't Gandalf just climb back up instead of wasting enough time for the whip to grab his leg?

frodo can't use the ring to its full extent

manlet problems etc

Supposedly

Hobbits = invisibility

so he couldnt have used that on the balrog

anyyways, its fucking weird that humans also become invisible in the movies, they should have given them a super soldier effect to make Boromir's agenda shine, like he wants to be a super human to lead gondor to victory, how did he plan to use the ring anyway?

>anyyways, its fucking weird that humans also become invisible in the movies
that's in the books too. We had the discussion yesterday. But we assume Isildur had a much stronger will so he could control whether or not he turned invisible

he had to take down the Balrog anyway, those are not meant to exist anymore

We'll, this is a new one...

>We had the discussion yesterda

I'm afraid i wasnt there, can you elaborate on this more? i always assumed that hobbits become invisible because they have sneak +10

Gandalf was a fucking gangster.

Why didn't the eagles just fly then over Moria?

Really

in the Silmarillion it says when Isildur's party was ambushed he panicked and put the Ring on and "vanished" from the battle but the orcs tracked him from his scent and tracks. Then he jumped in the river, Ring slipped off etc

according to Tolkien Gateway the Ring shifts you into the wraith world and you gain Sauron-like powers, if you're strong enough

Defeat the Balrog by turning invisible?

Gandalf mentioned in the trilogy that Isildur tried to flee by turning invisible, but he never really went deep into it.

They are not a fucking taxi service.

Also flying eagles over the biggest mountain range in middle earth is neither stealthy or safe

in the book the whole bridge collapses and he says 'fly you fools' while plummeting down, it's all instantaneous.

there's a lot of powers Frodo receives besides invisibility but it's all in the interests of the ring to grant power to corrupt the host. Frodo can see the other rings of power (most mortals can't), he becomes prescient (sees Gandalf imprisoned at Orthanc and other visions) and his senses become very acute in the dark.

Isildur never really had control of the ring, if he did then he'd have dominated those orcs that attacked or could have forseen the attack or sensed it. He also leaves a record of it and says that it doesn't really do much for him.

>biggest in Middle Earth
Do you even Utumno, niggers?
Also you're right though that the Eagles are mentioned as basically fucking off and doing what they want, when they want.

why did gandalf and the balrog end up at the top of some mountain after they fell down the chasm

Also, why are LoTR threads the only ones on Sup Forums with semi-serious discussions?

Burn Notice
Friends
Star Dust
Dune
Galaxy Quest

Those threads get serious discussions too

they went down and then up some passage until they reached the top. They were fighting for like a week

Eagles need to nut up. They wouldn't be a taxi service.

Undetected? That worked out well when Saruman almost fucked them up and down the mountaintop. Gandalf didn't want to go through the mines either.

The breaking of the fellowship could have been altered if they just flew them over. Who would have known? It would looks like eagles if anyone saw. And what could be done nothing

>Gandalf didn't want to go through the mines either.
in the books Gandalf is pushing to go through the mines as the only option and everyone else but Gimli is a pussy about it

HP has actually had some really good serious convos but they are riddled with shitposters and le ebin

that makes even less sense

Yes point was though it was a dangerous idea

why?

Personally, I love the Harry Potter books as a cherished memory from childhood; but honestly in those threads I'm just waiting for the pasta.

The ring does not turn the bearer invisible... well it does if the bearer is a frightened hobbit (hobbit like creature) but while it's powers are pretty vaguely explained and it is stated that most of the ring promises are deceits and plain lies it probably would increase the powers of beings such as Gandalf, Galadriel or Elrond against most foes if only to entice them to corrupt them, trick them or betray them later.

So while true, Frodo would not have been able to defeat the Balrog with it Gandalf could have... he would have fallen like Saruman later on though.

I love the books but I really love the films too, they are so complementary just like LOTR

Because we wouldn't have gotten this scene:

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>The ring does not turn the bearer invisible
see

man if the balrog got out of there and partnered up with sauron minas tirith would have been fucked

Why didn't Smaug try to take the ring from Bilbo?

There's no way he didn't sense its presence

why would he sense it? Dragons don't care for Maya trinkets any more than for any ordinary golden ring

WHE AIN'T HAD NUFFIN BUT LORD OF THE RINGS THREADS FOR THREE STINKIN' DAYS

it would have made him more powerful like the Dragons of old

YEAH WHY CAN'T WE HAVE SOME STAR WARS

I really don't think so. Old dragons didn't rely on magical artifacts

the ring enhances the wearers power and Smaug was not as powerful as the Dragons from the War of Wrath

THEY ARE NOT FOR POSTING

There is a reason this trilogy became a hippy favourite. Nature is not ever for sale or can be bent by the will of men, elves, wizards etc. This is shown quite well by the trouble the hobbits had getting the ents to fight. Nature will only fight back, so the eagles hadn't joined the fight at the beginning.

guess gadalf screaming "fly you fools!" WHILST plunging down would be too funny on the big screen

The balrog lead him to the endless stair. A forgotten marvel of when Durin ruled moria. It went from the lowest part of the mountain, to the highest peak. It was so old that it's location was lost to history.

What about a waifu thread, they don't delete those

It's in their best interest to help Frodo on his quest though, it's literally for the fate of Middle Earth

*dun dun dun*

GET BACK SCUM

man the orcs in the hobbit are so shit compared to the ones in LOTR

>Why didn't Smaug try to take the ring from Bilbo?
>There's no way he didn't sense its presence
They mention it in "Inside Information" chapter that dragons have their own sense of fair play. They were playing a game, and it behooved smaug to toy with him, he just didn't count on Bilbo being as clever or spry as he was.
Also, the ring didn't fully hide bilbo from Smaug, just made him a little harder to see in the dark.

smaug doesn't have fingers to wear it

he could wear it on his cock

the ring would grow to fit him retard

the question is would Smaug as ring-lord been able to challenge Suaron?

What do you mean?

no he wouldn't be able too, only sauron can control the ring properly
unforgettable shits

>orcs in LOTR are all dark and act like apes
>orcs in the Hobbit are all blue eyed and white

what did (((Jackson))) mean by this?

>guess gadalf screaming "fly you fools!" WHILST plunging down would be too funny on the big screen

"FLY YOU FOOooooo......"

The eagles belong to a literal god (Manwe). Getting him to listen to your plea nevermind actually help takes something huge. Gandalf only managed to get one to help for himself because he is a literal angel, and Manwe sent them to help Frodo because of the huge feat he had just accomplished.

Why would he? He's the last dragon and sleeping on top of the biggest horde since Glaurung at Nargothrond. That's dragon heaven.

>blue and orange

>Ywn see an alternative War of the Ring timeline where the Balrog attacks Minas Tirith and Elrond sends Glorfindel down to even the odds

This rematch was what ROTK was missing

>Elrond sends Glorfindel down to even the odds
Why didn't Glorfindel just solo the entire orc army?

Press F to pay respects to Gil-Galad

>supposed to be mighty wizzard
>bearly does shit during the 3 flicks
>get rekt by a shitty whip
90s kids and their nostalgia...

This
Supposedly the safest place for such a weapon is in the hands of the dude that has no idea or capacity to use it

Dragons are part-Morgoth
They are basically above the Ring, or Sauron since their master got imprisoned
Which is why although they had a presence in the North they never bothered aiding Sauron on his feats of conquest during the War of the Last Alliance

F

>"Share the load master frodo! Cum in my ass!"

I get that Jackson wanted to take some creative liberties with the silver screen adaption, but this line wasn't in the book at all afaik

>5000 years old
>High King of the Noldor
>No woman
>No children

Where did it all go so wrong for him?

listening to the soundtrack now. Literal chills down my spine

Why didn't Frodo just manipulate space and time?

...

>Run! Swords are no more use he-
>UTULIE'N AURE! AIYA ELDALIE AR ATANATARI, UTULIE'N AURE!
>Glorfindel WTF come back here
>*baff* *gling* *splat*
>AAAAAHHHH ORCS HELP ME
>*thud* *shunk* *bong*
>THAT IS FOR GONDOLIN YOU CUNT
>Right. To the Bridge of Kazad-dum!

What is the point of using CGI if you're going to make it look like a cheap Polystyrene suit.?

Whats the point of using make up and prosthetics if you are going to make it look like cheap CGI?

that fucking bloom and smudge fucks sake

that wasn't prosthetics

Oh but it was
youtube.com/watch?v=SGMfwYmZ6mQ

if I'm not iinm he did wear prosthetics but in the final movie everything is CG because it was so badly organized
at least when he's on the boar it is

That helmet literally looks like a plastic toy.

Whats this
The studio footage with the greenscreen behind him make for a better Dain

>those mountains

vomit-inducing

Bad shit runs in his bloodline

It's such a great soundtrack, especially the complete recordings. I can't believe how much love they put into it. Think my favourite is "Lament for Gandalf", the translation is so emotional as well.

Humans, Hobbits, mortals in general cannot access the full power of the ring.

Now give it to a wizard or an efl and they could fuck shit up but the power of the ring would corrupt them.

I unironically like them too, but that's because I have pleb tastes and enjoy one of the dullest franchise in the history of movie franchises. Seriously each episode following the boy wizard and his pals from Hogwarts Academy as they fight assorted villains has been indistinguishable from the others. Aside from the gloomy imagery, the series’ only consistency has been its lack of excitement and ineffective use of special effects, all to make magic unmagical, to make action seem inert.

Perhaps the die was cast when Rowling vetoed the idea of Spielberg directing the series; she made sure the series would never be mistaken for a work of art that meant anything to anybody?just ridiculously profitable cross-promotion for her books. The Harry Potter series might be anti-Christian (or not), but it’s certainly the anti-James Bond series in its refusal of wonder, beauty and excitement. No one wants to face that fact. Now, thankfully, they no longer have to.

>a-at least the books were good though

"No!" The writing is dreadful; the book was terrible. As I read, I noticed that every time a character went for a walk, the author wrote instead that the character "stretched his legs."

I began marking on the back of an envelope every time that phrase was repeated. I stopped only after I had marked the envelope several dozen times. I was incredulous. Rowling's mind is so governed by cliches and dead metaphors that she has no other style of writing. Later I read a lavish, loving review of Harry Potter by the same Stephen King. He wrote something to the effect of, "If these kids are reading Harry Potter at 11 or 12, then when they get older they will go on to read Stephen King." And he was quite right. He was not being ironic. When you read "Harry Potter" you are, in fact, trained to read Stephen King.

What neolithic cave painting is this from?

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wrong thread

Plain and simple ?

Shit writing

>"No!"

Was just about to post this
Or wear it as a necklace

The eagles are literally the basement dwellers of middle earth
All they do is bitch about the world while doing close to nothing to change it
Only when their king (mother) tells them to move their asses, they do

you're so mad lmao

The ring gives people power in proportion to their current power levels. So low power creatures like hobbits just turn invisible. If Aragorn were to put on the ring, however, he'd become superhuman and if Gandalf put it on he'd be able to defeat Sauron himself.

*Blocks your path*

Post your lotr swords

I don't have any place to put a sword that wouldn't make it look forced and fedora-y

*teleports behind you*

Hide it under a fedora