>The question came at the end of a hour-long question-and-answer session in which Tarantino touched on numerous topics: the importance of editing, the crucial role that music can play, the impact of spaghetti westerns and the woeful effects of the digital age on cinema. At one point, Tarantino said that he sees the digital revolution as the “death of cinema” and that he hopes a new generation of moviegoers will insist on 35 millimeter. “It’s too late for this generation,” he said.
>When pressed on the difference between digital and 35-millimeter films, Tarantino said that he saw no reason to leave the house to see a digital film, because you can see that on TV. “I don’t need to go see television at a theater,” he said. “Thirty-five millimeter is a reason to leave the house.”
I don't get it why is he so damn autistic about digital, it's inevitable and there's nothing he can do about it, it will eventually catch up with film. Is he truly set in his ways?
I've used both industry-standard digital and 35mm and let me tell you, 35mm is dead for a fucking reason. The only reason to use it at all is if you're a nostalgia snob who could afford using a dead format like Tarantino is.
Mason Collins
It does have higher resolution though
Aiden Morris
Everything is projected at 2K in theatres anyway
Parker Carter
Nah. I haven't shot 35mm since my film school days, but shooting stuff on 16mm is still worth all of the costs.
The point being made here isn't about shooting film, but projecting it in theaters. I go to the New Beverly pretty often and it's a real pleasure to sit in that uncomfortable one-screen room to see movies shot on film actually projected in that format (except for Public Enemies, I saw that like a year ago there and it still looked like shit). Sure part of it is nostalgia, but there's real merit there that can't be so easily discarded out of hand.
Camden Butler
Mmmmmhh Yeah cuz i'd be smelling feet up and down the street Nah ain't gonna do it all of a sudaaah
Nathaniel Young
I'll take the opinion of a successful director over the one of some no name guy, sorry
Evan Hughes
Nigga, that hairline.
Owen Clark
>Why does a filmmaker have opinions about filmmaking?
Colton Barnes
>why does a filmmaker have backward views on the future filmmaking He is being overly portentous, the tell tale sign of old age, digital is not the death of cinema and his romanticising of Film may be charming to some but he's the only guy that can afford that luxury - it's not like it's threatening him or anyone who gives a damn about the distinction for aesthetic reasons.
of course he doesn't have to leave his house to see a digital film, not everyone has a fucking movie theatre at home.
Ryder Collins
prime Sup Forums
Adrian Jenkins
why is he so based bros?
Brandon Cruz
Who gives a fuck he's a hack who got lucky with every single movie he ever made and has no clue what he ever did right. It's why his latest films are pure, unadulterated shit.
Austin Rogers
As much as I hate that disgusting cuck, he's right.
Digital a shit
Isaac Martin
Using your own old ideas isn't very impressive desu
Jonathan Clark
Calling a Katana merely a knife is dishonorable and worthy of Sudoku, which Tarantino should commit.
Alexander Garcia
This argument has been ranging in cinema and in photography since the advent of digital.. they both have their merits and artists make reasonable choices to use them.Editing is very different on both mediums and is a big deal for some.Furthermore; if Tarantino wants his work displayed in a certain way its his prerogative.
also to the second guy talking about being able to "afford" film.. you have no fucking idea what you are talking about in regards to cost. Renting a film grade digital movie camera and batteries and storage and computing equipment and other peripherals for the cameras costs about the same if not more than renting a film camera and buying film. The cost difference either way is negligible in a production. In fact low budget film makers still shoot on 16mm because for the quality it produces it is often the most cost effective option. They can then choose to physically edit the film or scan it and edit it digitally. I prefer film and so do many many successful working film makers.. You choose the best medium for the art.. it is a tool not an idea.
Jonathan Taylor
>I Prefer film
But it's OUTDATED and let's face it digital has higher resolution and easier workflow and you only like it because of >muh authentic film grain
You and your collegiate are a bunch of dishonest hipsters who will be steamrolled by the force of the future.
Chase Baker
He's right though
Josiah Perez
Which one did he suck the feet of while farting?
Connor Wright
Unless you're talking about IMAX, film is completely pwned on resolution.
Aaron Martinez
>"It's a black male thing!"
What did he mean by this?
Dylan Campbell
name one single masterpiece that has been shot on digital
you can't you can't make good art with shitty tools
Carter Ross
What about when it comes to the opinion of one successful director, over the opinions of almost every other successful person in the business?
David Ross
But film and film cameras are still available. It's still an option. Digital video can look really beautiful, I don't necessarily think film is "better," but it has a distinctive look and color profile that just can't be replicated by anything but real film stock. And it keeps that look even when it's transferred to digital video for editing and screening.
Film isn't a museum relic yet, it's still a viable option. Until it's truly dead, I don't see any reason NOT to use it when it's appropriate and allowable within the budget, or any reason why it's "stupid" for a director to have a strong preference about the way his movie looks.
Jayden Myers
>you know what they're going to call you? the fastest gun in the south.
How does Quantum Tarantulakino know how to stick a cool little moment like this at the end of his movie?
Angel Sullivan
has tarantino ever done a nude scene?
Kayden Johnson
Your whole argument is rooted in laziness and creative apathy. You can't even understand the idea that someone would prefer to make a movie "the hard way" just because he enjoys the process and the ritual.
I'm not even anti-HD, I've seen some beautiful movies made on digital video, I just think you're shit
Brayden Morris
Yes, watch Django unchained. You can see juicy BBC there.
Wyatt Bailey
>This argument has been ranging in cinema and in photography since the advent of digital It was raging at first. Then digital continued to get better, month by month, for decades.
I shoot film because I enjoy the process, but let's not kid ourselves, even my consumer-level stills camera can shoot better quality footage, in darker, colder, hotter conditions, and get into more tight spaces, and have the footage for immediate review, for far less upfront cost with less running costs, than anyone had before digital.
Jaxon Watson
film is kino. digital is shit.
any questions?
Joseph Barnes
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Christian Reyes
ytpkino at its finest
Ayden Jackson
its a black male thing
Gavin Jones
heh, nothing personnel kid
Brayden Gomez
Let me guess, you've never made a film before. You've probably had "good ideas", "anyone can do it" right? But you've never gotten off your ass to actually try? You are a pathetic excuse for human excrement. You are nothing. Your opinion is worthless, and you will never be worth a shit to real, creative people.
Justin Foster
He knows he's full of bullshit, but he has to keep up the facade to con nerds into seeing his crappy movies.
Jackson Flores
more Sup Forums-core vids pls
Zachary Rivera
>The importance of editing and the crucial role of music
Is that why his films are shit in both respects?
Kayden Ramirez
>implying there's a reason to try doing anything
Life ends regardless, nothing matters. You're either born lucky and your entire life is easy mode, like all good looking people, or you aren't. Either way your accomplishments don't matter.
Josiah Wood
he's right
Aaron Myers
>Tarantino said that he saw no reason to leave the house to see a digital film, because you can see that on TV. “I don’t need to go see television at a theater,” he said. “Thirty-five millimeter is a reason to leave the house.”
And he is absolutely right about this for one simple reason: color.
Digital may be sharper than film. It may equal or surpass it in resolution. But the one place it still falls short is in color. Even the best digital camera in the world still can't match the best examples of film for richness of color.
I would post an example image but it's literally impossible for me to do so. You'll just have to get out there and attend some 35mm revival screenings and see for yourself. It's literally something you can't get home and will pay to go see.
Oliver Green
>Blonde one wasn't the leader, Bill was
>Not a kung-fu master, she's an assassin and a sword master
>Demolition expert? Exactly when they mention that?
>Sex? Exactly when they mention that?
>Knife? That's a katana nigger
Yeah, so based
Christian Bennett
He's pretty smart. It's the people that worship him and go see his movies, who are stupid.
Ryder Russell
>linear response curve vs logarithmic response >bayer pattern sensor vs multiple emulsion layers
In terms of color and highlights/blacks, there is a very noticeable difference between the two.
Jace Cooper
Then kill yourself you pussy.
Elijah Gray
Tarankino grew up with flicks shot on 35 mill so he's clinging to this format like a baby to his mother's tit.
Nobody can actually see a difference between 35 mill or 70 mill or digital or whatever. Nobody cares about 70 mill despite him trying to make it a big deal of it with Hateful Eight.
Colton Long
>Nobody can actually see a difference between 35 mill or 70 mill or digital or whatever. That's like saying nobody can see the difference between 240p and 4k. But way to go ousting yourself as an underage retard.
Julian Perez
You dont get orange and teal on film
that comes from digital color correction of a digital film
Ayden Barnes
>Nobody can actually see a difference between 35 mill or 70 mill or digital or whatever.
Aaron Cruz
It's true though, and therefore digital is the way to go, because it is the easiest to use for a filmmaker. You can chage shit however you like in seconds with a push of a button.
Jackson Long
Let me guess, you've never operated a camera once in your life?
Isaiah Davis
why are dumb nerds using the word based so much lately?
Kayden Price
Can't the "feel/aesthetics" of real film be replicated pretty well by digital with effects? Why bother using film?
Jacob Hernandez
braaaaaaaaaaap
Joshua Price
Nope. Especially because most films are riddled with CGI and cheap-ass digital alterations.
If you actually cared to pick up a camera and try to film and edit for yourself you would realize this.
Adrian Cooper
>Can't the "feel/aesthetics" of real film be replicated pretty well by digital with effects?
to a degree but largely depends on the scene, and things like good green are a total bitch to work out of digital even in ideal situations
Adrian Foster
fuck off, this is a board about watching stuff not making it
Nathaniel Reed
Yeah but Uma's character in Pulp would totally call a Katana a knife, she barely gave a fuck and had to have everything explained to her.
Its the 80s and almost no rich females would've known the word Katana, I've seen hundreds of women call Swords Knives.
Alexander Jenkins
I wasn't talking about any CGI beyond trying to emulate film, retard.
Bentley Myers
>this is a board about watching stuff not making it This is why your opinion about movies will never matter
Reading comprehension, retard
Andrew Ortiz
>I've seen hundreds of women call Swords Knives
Henry Campbell
it's not true - there is a huge difference. see a doctor
Asher Ramirez
>it's a real pleasure to sit in that uncomfortable one-screen room to see movies shot on film actually projected in that format (except for Public Enemies, I saw that like a year ago there and it still looked like shit) Public Enemies was shot on hd.
Gabriel Gomez
New Beverly Cinema may be QT's finest contribution
Robert Wood
This. I hate public theatres. You can't make pee breaks without missing some of the movie You have to share the theatre with other people (sometimes loud people) I need to leave the house just to watch it and it's overpriced. I rather just rent it at home, i can wait.
Kayden Foster
>I don't get it why is he so damn autistic about digital, it's inevitable and there's nothing he can do about it, it will eventually catch up with film. Is he truly set in his ways?
He just has an appreciation for the way film looks on screen that most of us don't share.
Robert Martinez
>a nostalgia snob who could afford using a dead format like Tarantino is. This is all that really needs to be said. Tarantino has always been a snob and sentimentalist about film.
>He is being overly portentous, the tell tale sign of old age Not untrue but he was pretentious (what you really meant) when he was young too. He always worshiped the classics and emulated them and made endless tributes to them.
Ryan Smith
>name one single masterpiece that has been shot on digital Sin City was a masterpiece.
There, I said it.
Wyatt Nelson
>lately
you must have been living under a rock until recently
Aiden Johnson
his digital movies are sterile and flat compared to the juicy and vibrant film ones
Nathaniel Myers
Because of grain in film, they look more cinematic.
It's like watching a movie that's been shot at 60fps, it doesn't feel like a movie, same with grain.
Grayson Peterson
The boat on the left looks red, while the right looks orange.
Thomas Taylor
lol quebec tarantula has always been a hack and a moron. listen to the makers of true kino, like cronenberg, about filming digitally.
Noah Watson
New Beverly is ok. Tarantino is dropping ball lately there and charging too much to screen there. I see some LA fags here, but how many here actually are filmmakers? I am. I'm moderately successful and work with many of the people you post about. The internet is shit. Make films and stop criticizing people who do.
Logan Brown
>makers of true kino, like cronenberg Horror movies aren't kino.
Film artistically is about exposing reality.
Colton Ortiz
What's going on here?
Thomas Wood
Fury Road.
Grayson Taylor
It's 4K at every theater (all Regal) that I go to.
Cooper Evans
>you can't make good art with shitty tools fuck off
Jason Price
chose right one and i thought it was digital(looked better) but it turned out it was film
Logan Clark
Post films so we can criticize them you show boating faggot
Liam Williams
Well, 35mm has A E S T H E T I C S Top-tier digital is technically superior in most cases, but it's too pristine and clean, to get the analog feel you need to apply film looks in post, which takes time and once you can dial the right amount of grain texture, curves and certain color pallettes (like older Fuji stock, which has very distinct look) - it takes out the magic of just getting the footage blindly from the Lab with all the MUH CELLULOID effects already baked-in.
I get why PTA thinks of Film as an Elitist Patrician choice and that Digital is for filthy plebs. He's entitled to his WROOONG opinion.
tl;dr: DIGITAL = YEAH, MR. WHITE, SCIENCE! ANALOG = MAGIC, MOTHERFUCKER.
James Price
get better at making films and we won't criticize them faggot good luck being anything but shit though considering you dismiss all criticism
Sebastian Taylor
35mm with the exception of very fine-grained technical stock rarely resolves above 4K. Need to go higher? Shoot on 70mm.
HOWEVER, to get rid of certain artifacts during scanning (like aliasing), especially if the footage has heavy grain, people often choose to scan 35 mil. at 6K and then downsample to 4K. Looks better. Doesn't mean there's actually 6K worth of information there.
Mastering in 2K needs to fucking die, though. I mean, there are fucking UHDTVs begging for 4K content already in some houses.
Dominic Barnes
That's why I support Noland shooting his new war movie exclusively on 70mm and fuckhueg 15/70 negative. Day fucking one.
Julian Nguyen
I like Tarantino, he's pretty much an overgrown kid and that translates into his films making you feel like a kid when you watch fountains of blood for no reason other than it being cool
Ayden Wright
the quality(prettiness) of visuals in film has degraded since digital was introduced desu.
Landon Sullivan
The main problem of PE was the slow shutter speed. Otherwise it looked meh-ok. Zodiac was shot on Thomson Viper and it looked amazing, as cinematic as early digital HD could get.
Matthew Moore
The Red Weapon sensor is 8k and handles noise better. Film is destined to fade away just as newspaper/print. It's now become death. A gimmick and a cheap parlour trick used by some to edge their brand.
Andrew Jackson
He is stupid case he thinks he's smart so he makes less mentel effort in judging things
Angel White
>Movie is filmed with a Red camera capable of 6K or 8K capture >effects and mastering done at 2K
Thanks for filming 16 bit raw 8K footage and giving me a 1080p 8 bit Rec. 709 finished product you fucking assholes
Juan Howard
Grindhouse did this pretty well. Planet Terror was shot digitally and Death Proof was shot on film, and no one can tell the difference unless they look it up.
It's one of those things you don't really notice until you're told about it, then you can't forget it. Like manually breathing, thinking about blinking, your toes touching your socks etc.
Jacob Nguyen
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Luke Sanders
I get the nostalgia part, but let's not pretend photochemical film is the only glorious golden kind in the 'verse. It's not. Not anymore.
What I'm really excited about is the new digital tech coming after current CMOS generation. Like Lightfield Sensors, Super High ISO sensors (Canon already demoed the low-res proto of that tech, shooting in dim moonlight, your supporting lights are fireflies), also Graphene Sensors and QuantumCinema. Future can't come soon enough.
Aaron Rogers
quantum looks the shittiest
Joshua Ortiz
>lol why use marble and a sculptor? a 3D-printer could do the same faster!
millenials have no respect for art and its craftsmanship