What can we do about the growing "Antifa" problem in America?
From what I know, I can tell you that they're mostly being organized by a far-left party known as the "Party for Socialism and Liberation" as well as a PSL offshoot brand known as the "ANSWER Coalition". PSL ran Presidential campaigns during the last few elections, but their true goal is the same as any radical leftist LARPing group -- to gather around and pretend that a violent revolution in this great, god-fearing, gun-toting nation will somehow put them into a position of power.
Unfortunately, as loathsome as this sort of IRL ideological dress-up game may seem to us, it becomes a potential issue when they're organizing live-action role-playing events at our Traditionalist Workers' Party free speech gatherings.
What can we do to stop them, Sup Forums? Encouraging violence in any form is not recommended. Instead, let's learn more about them and engage in what our board is best at: memetic warfare campaigns.
With that said, what do you know about antifa movements in America?
Pull Sup Forums style operations on them to destroy their ability to function - sending them out on blind leads, infiltrating them with trolls, whatever.
Jackson Long
We have to put up with that shit for years know.
Enjoy the destruction of private property, Antifa is the lowest scum that's walking earth.
Mindless drones.
Caleb Sanders
Really, though, if this thread doesn't take off today, we should keep this idea in mind.
We need to deal with Antifa. They could hardly stop us, but they're a real annoyance before we get bigger numbers.
We need to start really scattering and fucking up their organization.
Jordan Ortiz
That's why we need to stop it now. They are pretty weak. However, they've gathered tens of thousands of dollars to heal the antifa drones who were stabbed at Sacramento, which means they have active support from the Left in this country.
Who are they? Who is leading them? What do they want, besides violence? How do we stop them? These are questions we must answer before the problem gets as bad as Europe.
Alexander Long
Fascist scum like you all should be fucking thrown out of the country. I'll take illegal immigrants over you traitors anyday
Jackson Williams
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Adrian Jenkins
most US states have concealed carry laws and castle doctrine.
be polite, defend your viewpoints, but if they go to lay a hand on you, end their life.
Brandon Cruz
The rise of antifa will be a good thing. It will put actual nazism and fascism into perspective and it will foster a nationalist movement in the US as an equal and opposite reaction.
Michael Reed
>Opposing fascism is bait You'd have to be a retard to think fascism works.
>1 post by this ID
Jacob Moore
The irony is that antifa is far more fascist than your average rightwinger nowadays
Camden Fisher
or the second they attempt to start shit, it will end like that clan rally that was attacked back in the 80s where they killed like 3-4 antifa with legally justifiable homicide
Sebastian Morgan
Tell me what fascism is right now without googling it.
John Allen
Where the fuck do you think you are.
I'm not a fascist. But this is Sup Forums. Politically Incorrect. Do you understand?
This is where you are and you're so shocked that people hate niggers here.
Grow up.
Jonathan White
Yet the main users of violence to silence opposition are the faggots you support.
Oliver Gomez
We're a new form of fascism, a hybrid.
We're going to be smarter this time, and more realistic.
But some motherfuckers are definitely going to regret some things.
Josiah Sanchez
Worked pretty great for Rome.
Fuck off with your consensus cracking you jew fuck
Jack Roberts
I suppose people like you think anybody pro-choice people are also an anti-natalist. If a group started calling themselves the Anti-Hitlers and started murdering innocent Jews, they still wouldn't be as ironic and ignorant as you ridiculous fascists.
Henry Ross
/r/anarchism is where a lot of antifa faggots hang out.
Angel Barnes
>What do they want, besides violence? To feel like the have an identity.
The best way to fight them is with memes and ridicule since they do it to feel cool.
Also by meeting their violence with better organized more powerful self defense violence. This humiliates them and will either shame/scare them into not coming back, or cause them to escalate to the point that the populace and the police turn on them fully.
Jason Hill
I'm not supporting antifa just saying fascists are traitors
>lol don't google it. Lol my post will compel you to obey me Fascism is similar to dictatorship combined with nationalism. I didn't look it up.
>Where the fuck do you think you are. /pol where I argue with retards
>This is where you are and you're so shocked that people hate niggers here. >Grow up. When did niggers even come up? Stop jumping to conclusions
Don't support antifa
>We're going to be smarter No you're not
>Citation needed
IM NOT IN ANTIFA YOU FAGGOT
Lincoln Hernandez
do you think they do not read this board?
Jayden Watson
Give them the space to keep attacking people in ways that make them the obvious aggressors. They end up getting stabbed, and the media starts to question them a little bit.
We need to avoid the "they're the real fascists" meme because it plays into their hands - the radical right becomes something to distance yourself from for fear of being tainted. Push the angle that they're "pro-marxist" rather than simple "anti-fascist".
Eli Kelly
Honestly the problem will solve itself. These fuckers are getting too cocky for their own good, seeing as they were primarily in europe.
Soon they're gonna try this shit around a licensed carrier, and they will be shot. Let's see how many of them want to continue after that happens.
Alternatively, if you feel you must do something, try scouting out where they meet up and park their cars. Bring plenty of Trump bumper stickers, put them on the cars. Odds are they will happily fuck up each others cars, thinking they're sticking it to some "fascist"
You seem pretty defensive, you Antifa crypto-fascist. Fancy smashing me over the head for daring to say that people have the right to free speech? How about torching random people's cars in a demonstration against the banks?
Zachary Flores
Why do all Antifa cucks have this inferiority complex and have to scream out "WE MUST FIGHT ALL FASICSTS!!!!" 24/7? Honestly, any antifa member is the biggest, most fake scum on earth.
Ryder Gutierrez
And dems r da real racist.
Logic games don't work outside of a Stefan Molyneux video. Stop this. The line needs to be that they're bougie commie wannabes playing dress up with daddy's handkerchief over their face
Gabriel Fisher
>What can we do about the growing "Antifa" problem in America?
Xavier Martinez
I don't understand why they call themselves leninist/stalinist/maoist meanwhile they are literally faggots and meanwhile they use capitalist stuff.
Aaron Wilson
>IM NOT IN ANTIFA YOU FAGGOT
Someone is freaking out.
Jackson Smith
>Operation Anticuck? Let's do it
Cameron Long
Because they don't have real ideologies except "I wanna feel like a revolutionary like in the movies"
Brandon Young
The answer to Antifa is to fight back. Be more brutal than they are. And take trophies.
You get attacked by one of them? Take their ears.
They are terrorists. So you must terrify them to win.
Luis Thomas
Everyone in life is fascist.
We're all slaves to something, and will fiercely defend it when its boundaries are breached.
When I say I'm a fascist, it's just coming from a realization that everything is fascism. Everyone becomes a fascist at the end of the day. Those who would challenge me on this - themselves have already proven to be total fascists in their actions. Hell, THEY helped redpill me. It's never a good idea to antagonize an Aries. Aries just get stronger from it, and more and more hardened. And they always win in the end.
Jayden James
From having had a conversation with a few Communists, they will use iPhones and when questioned about it claim that products that are created by capitalism are not tools of capitalism and that they must use all tools available for the struggle. Basically its a bunch of pseudo-intellectual faffle to cover for their internally inconsistent ideology, like most anything that comes out of their mouths.
Colton Perry
I already have this attitude. If they attack I'll shoot them, sure.
But the best way to fight them is to subvert them.
Adam James
We need to call all of their moms!
>is he joking or is he serious?
James Bell
How come I win almost every argument on here and my dot is in the green sector on the politcal compass
Nathaniel Garcia
Write your conservative congressman and call them a terrorist organization that uses violence to silence free speech. If you don't have a conservative senator, write a senator from a different state. The more attention brought to this issue the better.
Jonathan Martin
Antifa are only fascists in this modern "everything I don't like is Voldemort" kind of sense where every every authoritarian is a fascist and every racist is a nazi.
What they represent is the kind of leftist street violence the blackshirts were fighting against. They don't deserve to be associated with that weltanschauung, and doing that only damages our own cause. Because fascism is now forbidden, and thus has a certain pull for people. A certain fascination. A sizable group of people are attracted to authoritarian movements regardless of the actual politics because they appear strong.
What they need to be shown as are the disorganised student wankers they are, in a way that makes them unappealing to be associated with.
Lincoln Carter
Move to red states where you can easily get a conceal carry. The leftists in these states do nothing more than put flyers up. I'm serious.
Ryan Hall
There's no justifying Antifa though, because they are literally domestic terrorists.
They try using fear, intimidation, and violence to silence those who have different political and social views than them. The last fucking protest they held had fliers literally saying "Bring bats and bricks".
There's no justifying these people, they should be jailed.
Lucas King
They won't ever be as much of a problem in the US are they are in Europe. They'll stir shit in a free state and some will get shot in self-defence as a result. They'll probably chimp out and then get massively cracked down on.
Jaxson Myers
>How come I win almost every argument on here
You don't.
Most of Sup Forums isn't in favor of fascism you cuck, we're Nationalists.
Defending Antifa is ironic, they are left-wing fascists.
Kevin Nelson
>How come I win almost every argument on here you don't, you're just a retard who doesn't understand what winning an argument means
Josiah Russell
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Dylan Reed
look they dont want to kill you, they just want to scare you off the streets.
"dont give the fascists a platform"
conceal carry. if you're ever assaulted. pull out your piece and blow a hole in their head.
want to do something about these terrorists? fucking do something, but do it legally. defend yourself to the limits of the law.
Joshua Gray
Careful what you post, Ethanie. Would be a shame if anything happened to you.
Alexander Cox
Yet the police allowed them to assault people. And due to Warren v. District of Columbia, American citizens have no legal expectation to be protected by the police. And due to California gun laws, the TWP had no recourse to concealed carry firearms to defend themselves.
Even then, the media made the event out to be neo-Nazis stabbing a bunch of student protestors, when it was the antifa that brought the knives and clubs to begin with.
Face facts. The whole establishment in some states is on the side of antifa. You either operate as a criminal, against it, or you fold.
Cameron Jenkins
We should meme this hot slice of disinfo:
The "anti" in "antifascist" is an acronym: ANTI, "American Nazi Teenage Insurgent" (or something like that). Meme that shit into existence and normies will eat it up.
Logan Scott
>There's no justifying these people, they should be jailed. But they won't be, because their antiracism shit upholds the status qui of the state agenda, ironically.
The real answer is ridicule, and learning to fight and shoot so you can defend yourself.
Jack Kelly
>Most of pol isn't in favor of fascism Are you fucking retarded? This board is filled with pro Hitler National Socialist bullshit. But if you wanna be just a nationalist then ok. You're just swapping out one retarded ideology for another.
How am I retarded you're the retard who thinks their will be a nationalist movement in the US. KYS
Michael Campbell
Just call them commies, no reason to get fancy. Commies are still a bad thing outside of academia.
Grayson Wright
lol Adam you're a faggot
Kevin Diaz
The trick is to destroy each cell one by one.We have a fairly active antifa her in OZ and they are gaining traction and publicity.
We need small cadres tracking a cell and its members following them home from their protests or meetings and then pinching them for some good old fashioned reeducating. Do this to enough of their members and they will be too scared to continue their pathetic bullshit. Kill some of the head honchos if you have too. Sure as shit they wont be missed.
The time to be proactive is now, when they are still relatively small in number. Remove the member base and you remove the support these cunts have.
Jonathan Perry
Only a true antifa would want to se dead facists. Just saying.
Andrew Sanders
There is a nationalist movement in the U.S. though... We've taken over an entire party.
Luke Miller
Did y'all read that shit about that BAMN or whatever in Sacremento? Some longass facebook post about how they basically take in street kids and force them to radicalize or they don't eat.
Austin Rivera
If people hate Antifa so much, why not just be Fa?
Josiah Lee
The Republicans? Ok enjoy your 15 minutes of fame until Donald gets smacked down by Hillary in November
>Inb4 the silent majority meme
Shut up Sven
Bentley Thompson
>KYS
Go watch some more Leafy videos and calm down you little tweenage cuck
Charles Morales
The Brexit vote has shown that the more you cry "racist" and attack whites, the more likely you are to lose.
You're attacking the majority, dipshits. What do you expect?
Leo Garcia
>Cuck Go back to Breitbart you delusional faggot
When did I cry racist? When did I attack whites? I am white. And Brexit only won by 3 points it wasn't that big of a win
Jack Thomas
You americans always boast about your guns, how about you use them?
Eli Gray
I agree, but there is no stopping them the nice way at this point.
Some people prove to just be straight up enemies who would do anything they can.
These ones basically need to be shut down. Not by responding stupidly violently, but through clever tactics to undermine them.
I still think the best thing we can do is start redpilling more young people. Angry types who might become hardcore leftists, we need to turn into hardcore warriors for our side.
Levi Cruz
Because that undermines us, immediately discredits us.
Stop thinking like an angry spree shooter. That's retard-tier.
The key is winning over the culture to our side, in massive numbers, to the point that everyone will turn on them and crush them.
Robert Peterson
Nah don't kill em. Just castrate them with a tourniquet attached. Or. Break all of their fingers on both hands.
Bentley Torres
>This board is filled with pro Hitler National Socialist bullshit.
Some of it is, a lot of it is there to trigger you for being a fucking pussy.
John Bailey
>Live in California >Ever since punk rock started to come back around 2013-14, see a few Antifa faggots around Oakland, but just one area around a bar called "The Beer Revolution" >Think it's mostly a European and New York City issue, and the locals here are just assholes from Berkeley >Later until last year and very much so this year, they're all over Oakland, San Francisco, and pushing further into the East Bay cities such as Concord, Walnut Creek, and especially San Jose since December >See them throw bottles and talk shit to me and some friends >Have been warning Sup Forums for months >Nobody listens >Then this shit from Sacramento happens >Incredibly angered, yet have a shred of hope seeing nationalists from Sacramento.
Just last weekend I saw a bunch around Harrison Street in San Francisco. No flags, just patches.
What's my advice? Fight back for one, but here's the big shred of advice. We need to call our brothers for war. We need to get ahold of Nordfront and Soldiers of Odin from Scandinavia. Even better? Call our Slavic allies. They especially don't fuck around. Don't bother with NSM. They're a honeypot.
Joshua Sanchez
That will also work.
I have seen these scum in action first hand so I may have a tad more disdain for them than your average bloke.
Ian Sullivan
Jesus you really are new. Cuck originated here, son, not Breitbart.
Now shut the fuck up and lurk moar or gtfb2reddit
Lincoln White
>unironically supporting hillary
Lol if you're going to be extreme my tip is to not back the most establishment candidate that has ever existed
Austin Murphy
>Go back to Breitbart you delusional faggot
Holy Fuck it's summer in here.
Josiah Williams
Also, on another note. That Oakland riot about a year or two back? You know, the one with the live feed of the police wall taking care of the issue, and people chimping out? Antifa were there. The recent Seattle chimpout one month ago? Antifa were there. The San Jose chimpout against the "KKK" (doesnt exist in CA) Antifa were there.
Here's what I remember about Antifa for the most part, at least the ones in the west coast. They do it for fun. Riots and running from and agitating police is entertainment for them. Like edgy skaters who like to annoy security guards, but this time police, and to appear like some "hero" to blog their experiences with for some kind of bullshit idea of journalism. You know, to impress some dumb blue-haired cunt from Berkeley with misdirected excitement.
William Sanchez
just so you know, antifa operates down here in melbourne.
i've infiltrated the group to sabotage it from the inside.
ask me anything about how antifa has literally teamed up with the same african thugs home invading melbourne residents and how these deluded lefties actually think they can "destroy capitalism"
Gabriel Wood
Can't you just shoot them? from what I've gathered it's pretty easy to find yourself in a self defense case.
Sebastian Howard
>Some of it is If only some of it is then why do National Socialism do so well? Could it be that National Socialism is VERY popular on this forum
>We're triggering you haheha You edgelords don't trigger me. You just make yourself look stupid.
>Not knowing where "cuck" came from Imagine my embarrassment I really feel silly now. >Son Did you really just call me son? What are you 12?
>Pointing out reality is supporting Hillary I hate Hillary but she's obviously going to win
At the end of this summer /pol will be a leftist board.
Alexander Gonzalez
Timestamp with proof
Chase James
I'll ask you this. Are they bar-goers or just abandoned factory heroin junkies? Are they they crust punks, or just idiot skaters in tanktops?
Jason Peterson
Host a massive Antifa rally inside large building. Lock them inside. Set building on fire
James Sanders
*National Socialism threads
James Morris
>If only some of it is then why do National Socialism do so well? Could it be that National Socialism is VERY popular on this forum
Politically correct board is filled with people who say faggot, nigger, and post pictures of HItler.
Most of them are edgelords. I used to come on here to yell at them for being racist.
>You edgelords don't trigger me
Your use of all-caps tells me otherwise.
>At the end of this summer /pol will be a leftist board.
Kek, how you gonna do that. Spam us with niggerdicks?
Charles Garcia
i can't really timestamp that sort of thing, it's not hard to infiltrate them either, just go to their faggy hipster uni meetings and play along.
they are fucking uni students with no jobs and too much time on their hands, collecting centerlink.
at the same time they believe anyone with a job is an evil capitalist and are strong believers in feminism, radical green bullshit.
ironically they support the greens but are too dumb to look at their policy and see they supported loggers in my state LOL
Landon Perry
Black metal band Taake came to the US for the first time and some Antifa retard brought tear gas and used it in the middle of a fucking packed venue in Sacramento.
They played at least 4 shows here in CA and only in Sacramento did these fuckers show up.
Nolan Collins
Don't shoot them. Leave them with scars so that they can spread their fear to their friends.
You kill them, you martyr them.
You take one's thumbs, they have to live the rest of their life as a gimp.
Colton Barnes
>hahahahaeha >you edgelords don't trigger me You sound pretty triggered m8
Jeremiah Martinez
Not in the regions they operate. They're mostly in no-gun states like California, or no-gun districts.
In the US, the highest areas with Antifa are
>San Francisco, California >San Jose, California >Oakland, California >Berkeley, California >Seattle, Washington >Portland, Oregon >New York City, New York (Specifically the Manhattan area) >Boston, Massachusetts >Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania (their weakest stronghold)
William Torres
Actually, baiting them with a "Nazi" meetup with no skinheads present would be better. Set up a fake meetup where they're caught red-handed in fight mode and then either burned alive, or surrounded by SWAT.
Cooper Foster
>i can't really timestamp that sort of thing
Yeah you can. Show us your antifa flag or whatever.
Eli Cruz
People here are nationalist but not socialist. You can be pro Hitler and not socialist the same way you can like Muhammad Ali and not be a Muslim. Also not all of us agree with Hitler, we all hate the Jews but we don't all believe in murdering innocents/ eugenics like he did.
Luis Perry
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Christian Gutierrez
I like it. Or alternatively, make the meet up at a neo Nazi biker bar where they proceed to get the shit kicked out of them
Ian Campbell
So antifa are literally hipsters in your area? I didn't think cucks could fight.
Lots of bands show up at the DNA lounge in San Francisco, and Antifa show up there once in a while. Fortunately, they're too busy drinking and having fun to realize that the band has conservative values until looking them up the next day.
Jayden Cooper
fascists- dumbasses with extreme political views
antifa- dumbasses with extreme political views who actively practice terrorism
Gee I wonder why antifa would be disliked over fascism here hmm such a mystery
Kevin Ward
they don't use flags here, i dunno what it's like in the states.
when they do things, they come dressed as right wing protesters and cause trouble pretending to be them.
it's literally just face masks.
they're the more radical hipster. these are just uni students who drank too much marxist koolaid.
they're not organised and not smart, that's why they decided to make friends with the nigger gangs. i feel like it's gonna backfire soon and they gonna get enriched
Alexander Watson
This kind of goes back to my original idea here
Just call some nationalist groups that arent an FBI honeypot for protection. A call-to-arms so to speak. I mean, shit. Nordfront has a website.
Nicholas Ward
>Ok enjoy your 15 minutes of fame until Donald gets smacked down by Hillary in November There was a shred of doubt that you weren't just pretending, until you said that
Christian Lewis
>You used all caps I used all caps once. You do realize I don't have to be enraged to use all caps right? I JUST PRESS A BUTTON LIKE THIS I don't sound like anything cuz you're reading text. You can't just assume things from my text.
>We like Hitler >But mass murder is wrong Wow that makes you much better. Bravo