Was this movie supposed to make us hate skinheads or hate niggers ?

was this movie supposed to make us hate skinheads or hate niggers ?

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Only Sup Forums could manipulate such a narrowly anti-racism movie to be pro-nazism.

Well it definitely did make me hate niggers.

pretty sure the intended message can be summed up to "around blacks never relax"

>what have you done that's made your life better

Yeah, I almost felt bad for being a racist just up until the ending.
The ending is where the real shit is at.

No. Next question?

Both?

Or to be more specific, racial violence fucks up everything it touches and you don't get to just renounce it and walk away.

if you have to ask then you are too stupid to live in America and need to be gassed

>you shouldnt fight for or believe in anything and ALWAYS prioritize your own pleasure and well-being

Wow great message thanks for the insight (((hollywood)))

It is supposed to make you hate any form of unjustified violence, no matter who do it

My brother is a neo-nazi (though he's cooled down after a while) and every time I try to have a discussion as to why he thinks the shit he does he always falls back on saying "Remember American History X? How that movie ended?"

>you shouldn't fight other citizens because they are a different race, and should prioritize peace and the well-being of all

Yeah, those damned Hollywood Jews and their subversive agendas, amirite?

I watched this movie.

Well when the skinhead kills someone its to protect his territory and brother, while when the nigger kills someone its to be a hardcore mothafuckin' gangsta.
I can on some level relate to one of these.

>make a thread on Sup Forums
>people respond to it

haha yeah there's no dumb bravado involved in being a skinhead, haha

skinheads don't feel the need to be violent just to fit in and prove their masculinity haha that would be silly and kind of immature haha

I'm proud of this one, people actually rarely respond to my threads

It must be nice to be this naive

neither

How low-IQ do you have to be to not understand the message of this movie and unironically believe the racist rant bits?

It's like claiming that Star Wars was pro-Empire because the star destroyers looked neat

The movie never gives any retort as to why the racist rants are wrong

Explain how Norton wasn't entirely correct in his Rodney King rant. That's right, you can't.

The message is that there are good negroes and bad negroes, good white folks and bad white folks, not everything is black and white.
Also never let a jew fuck your mom.

haha what the hell man i agree with you, everyone who isn't a skinhead is a degenerate who should be gassed haha

i mean whoever heard of a nigger calling another nigger his brother haha... or fighting for his territory haha

these Jews always making movies that make skinheads look like dumb thugs haha, obviously the ethnostate is the only way forward for the white race, look how civilised and idyllic Israel is haha the Jews know whats up and they hide it from us haha

1488 dipshit

The racists are a bunch of degenerate poorfags with no lives and no future. They're worse than the nigs.

haha

>The racists are a bunch of degenerate poorfags with no lives and no future. They're worse than the nigs.
>one of the biggest racists has a 3.7 billion networth

really makes you think

it made me hate the director for only showing her naked in the first 5 minutes of the movie

Israel is like 25% muslim.

how much do you hate them?

it was meant to stimulate your already existent biases. that's why it's such a classic. It makes every side feel better.

This is the first movie that made me openly racist for like a week or so.

God damn.

>thinks Edward Norton is worth 3.7 billion
kek

Sup Forums loves louis and the nazi.

>typing this massive blog to accomplish nothing more than a strawman

I know losing arguments sucks but you can always just not reply. But yeah skinheads are totally just as bad as gangsters....the 700+ murders a year in Chicago are surely the doing of angry white guys with shaved heads!

Take your head out of the sand you infantile faggot and stop defending people just because their skin is darker than yours

>Israel isn't a Jewish ethnostate because there are Muslims there

I've seen delusion before, but damn son, you're on a whole new level

the message was quite simply
>has subscribing to these beliefs improved your life in any way
and the only thing that any logical person would say is that no shit your life is worse when you realize your life is a mirage and everyone is slowly being replaced by an inferior species both culturally and genetically over time to further profit those in charge, people get reduced to shallow lives where nothing matters beyond their very own personal pleasure and ego, completely forgetting other people and completely forgetting how to be good people. nazism has nothing to do with race by the way and neo nazis are degenerate filth that don't hold a candle to my almighty fascistic banner whereunder you are simply to put your nation and fellow man beyond yourself at all times, that's all that is required. but these fucking commie kikes with agendas can't accept such a reality where they can't be degenerate selfish fucks, you cannot be fulfilled as a human without purpose, degeneracy is inherently aimless and can never fulfill a human, you can only be fulfilled if you serve a cause that is not yourself

right on

I'm not defending the actions of black murderers, you imbecile, I'm denouncing any ideology which encourages murder of any kind. It was YOU who made claim that skinheads fight for their brothers and their territory, while black gangstas fight for nothing. If you'd even once bothered to investigate the toxic culture that permeates the black working class, you'd know that it's built on a flawed concept of masculinity which uses those EXACT FUCKING TERMS.

Skinheads and gangbangers are the same turds painted different colours, and if you can't admit that it's because you're one of those fucking turds.

Neck yourself.

There's a lower percentage of Jews in Israel than Christians in the US. Deluded fatass.

not all skins are criminals

Muslims are given significantly less rights than Jews.

Not sure, but this goddamn movie does the trick.

They have identical rights you mouth breathing pathological liar.

Nice rant, but remind me again of the point in the movie where it sends a message that kids should drop out of school, take up degenerate habits and ignore their civic duties.

Remind me of the point where it isn't just as unsympathetic to the black thugs as the white ones? Oh yeah, there isn't one, because this is a competently-made movie by people who give a fuck, not a Miley Cyrus concert specifically designed to generate publicity by outraging conservative sensibilities.

Fascism is a horribly flawed system, by the way, which is why your Founding Fathers believed in the power of the Republic, and not the Empire. No good comes of a society that aims to suppress its dissenters - that's a belief which is supported by the entire Western Canon's worth of philosophy and political science, and has been borne out in the success of modern democracies and republics across the globe for centuries.

>you cannot be fulfilled as a human without purpose, degeneracy is inherently aimless and can never fulfill a human

At no point did I, or this movie, ever dispute the above. The movie, in fact, specifically delivers the same message.

It had it everywhere, you were too stupid to understand even basic subtext

it made me hate both

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Human_rights_in_Israel

>skinheads and gangbangers are the same
>oh except for the fact that the latter kill thousands of people every year

Really got my neurons firin

What's your point? "Christian" isn't an ethnicity.

Don't be a dipshit. You make me look bad by association.

Both, never relax around a bald man

>hurr durr one group outnumbers another by twenty-to-one and so they cause twenty times as many problems

Don't lie on the internet, your neurons haven't fired in a while.

skinheads are the dissenters

Care to give an example?

>even though whites outnumber blacks in the general population there are significantly more black gangsters than white ones

really bakes my potato

racism is bad. why cant we just get along pls guys/ we are all humasn

By your logic, if blacks are the minority in America, why do gangsters outnumber skinheads "20 to 1"? Wouldnt that mean blacks are statistically AT LEAST 20 times more likely to be violent and tribalistic than whites?

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you're thinking of communism, fascism is not about suppressing dissenters but about elevating normal people willingly, if they do not cooperate to rid the world of degeneracy in unison then it's not fascistic and not a purpose, because how can your purpose be something you do not wish to adhere to?
hierarchy is everything, everyone must ordain to hierarchy or there can be nothing but gross corruption at stake, because why would someone betray the foundation of society if he were not out to undermine it in its wholesome?
mind you, fascism quickly collapses into degeneracy and, worse yet, communism, if there is no enemy to focus attention towards, humans cannot sit idly by, they'll be glancing inwards and get selfish and petty over all sort of things, but if they are not allowed the opportunity to glance inwards, if they're instead forced to act and strain themselves for the greater good without time for anything else they'll assume their purpose and be content with their lot in life, even if it is demanding

my inherent belief is that freedom itself is a form of slavery, slavery to the degenerate and selfish mind, the ego cannot be allowed to grow uninhibited, you need checks in place, what better check than fascism that forces you to never consider selfish actions?

as for the movie, it portrays neo nazis, what can i say, they're degenerate filth coveted by vanity and profanity, not at all orderly citizens looking out for their fellow man, yet worse they care about race, as if that has anything to do with anything, it is culture and heritage that matters. i was merely picking out that one incredibly stupid statement, asking whether something has improved your livelihood or not as some sort of deciding factor on how truthful it is cannot be realistic

Yes, they are. It is vitally important that they be allowed freedom of speech so that their arguments can be evaluated for any nuggets of truth, and challenged on their many flaws.

This idea has been a mainstay of political philosophy since the days of John Stuart Mill, and I agree that it's deeply disturbing to see the PC culture (which has been needlessly rebranded SJW) doing its best to suppress you, even if you are a bunch of emotionally-stunted chucklefucks 99% of the time.

All this to say that your current status as dissenters against the norm doesn't excuse your publicly stated belief that large groups of innocent citizens should be hanged, and other large groups should be silenced in the same way that you yourselves are being now.

Yes, it would. The reasons for which are entirely cultural, and not genetic.

See above. At least you're closer to the mark with the baked potato metaphor than you were with the firing neurons one.

no one is innocent mate.

do you really believe that genetics do not influence culture?

I don't remember Edward Norton being a school-shooter though.

No it's just the white man holding them back.

I dont think this guy realizes hes arguing with at least 2 people

Hierarchy exists naturally in every system, not just fascism. People should not be forced to elevate themselves above a common standard if they don't want to. Corruption is inevitable, you said yourself that it creeps into fascism and decays the whole thing into either communism or despotism.

Enemies do not have to be human, nor do we need fascism to make us hate our fellow man, that is already easy enough. Freedom is not a form of slavery, that is actual nonsense.

Most of what you've said is inoffensive rhetoric, but nothing in there provides a particular argument for fascism over, say, republicanism, representative democracy, or even milder forms of socialism.

To bring it back to Sup Forums, does this all mean that we can finally agree that the movie's message is one of "treat your fellow citizens peacefully and respectfully, even if they are of a different race"? Not one of "disregard your traditions, submit to degeneracy and betray your duty"?

It is, like Imperium was recently as well, actually very even-handed in its treatment of the White Power movements.

white men have been lifting them up since colonial times or or did you swallow the lie that whites came only to rape and plunder?

If the reasons are cultural and not genetic, why do black countries have murder rates so many times higher than those of white countries? Is it simply not possible for genes to inform culture? When separate black cultures have similar murder rates, is it all just a big coincidence? Have you ever heard of Occam's Razor?