The Netherlands and PVV

So I'm going to live in the netherlands this summer as a student that is legally of dutch nationality, and since I'm looking on the politics so that I can choose wisely on who to vote for in the future I was wondering what you locals think of the PVV, would you vote for them?

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No, I'm voting for VNL, basically PVV but without the bad reputation and a non-retard economy plan. PVV is just immigrants out REEEE. VNL is immigrants out REEEE + more. Which is what I prefer.

IMMIGRANTS OUT REEEEEEEEEEE

IMMIGRANTS OUT REEEEEEEEEEE + MORE

> voting for VNL

may as well throw your vote directly to the garbage

I can always count on my countrymen

Will VNL form a coalition with PVV, or is that off the table?

I'd vote tactically for whoever is likely to handle the immigration issue. Like Trump and the Republicans aren't perfect, but they seem willing to stop the invasion, which is the most important issue here in 2016

> muh bad reputation

why do you care about what the leftist media thinks of your party?

Just look at what happened with the BNP: as soon as they collapsed the UKIP became the new nazis.

caring about what the media think is a lossing move

Adding to that, the traditional media is by leftists for leftists.

No one believes what they see on TV anymore.

PVV, VNL and SGP are the ones willing to stop the invasion. They'd probably work together if forced to, but don't think it will ever come to that. Either VNL or PVV will get into the coalition, then with another (likely left) political party that probably doesn't want to work with either, but will anyway. Then it's just a coin toss to decide if the invasion will stop.

Don't expect any party to win as heve a retarded system where you need 2 or 3 parties to form a coalition, and there is not a single combination possible where all parties would not have to fuck over their voters.

PVV and VNL are the best choices to retain our nation, but as said, VNL is very irrelevant. Out of all the big parties, the PVV is the best choice at the moment.

That said, they are more of a single-issue party and I don't really like some of their economic and environmental policies.

Except, VNL is not a big party at all and not gaining much ground while PVV is bound to be the biggest party next year.

Vote PVV if you want change, idiot

Fuck off back to your own country.

I have not seen much of a push from the SGP to do something about immigration desu

Christians, even traditionalist ones, are waaay too sentimentalist and moralistic as to let people drown in the mediterranean

Not sure what I will end up voting for in the end. But if VNL is still as irrelevant as it is today come voting day. I'll most likely vote PVV so that we have a chance at stopping the invasion. I still prefer VNL though.

>PVV if you want change

Except Wilders doesn't even want to rule.
Too much work, rather stays in the opposition where it's easy going.

Don't forget 50+, they will get a handful of seats next year.

They're anti-EU and anti-asylum.

"le cordon sanitaire exists because Wilders memed it xD" meme

>Wilders doesn't even want to rule.
twitter.com/geertwilderspvv/status/712351968619073537

Netherlands is my country friendo, I am actually dutch.

I would like to vote VNL. Will wait for the polls before the election and when they won't get a seat I'll vote PVV instead. Also, VNL will have to declare they would work with PVV because otherwise I might just as well burn my vote.

Voted VVD all my life, economic politics of VNL is more my thing than PVV.

I'm on business in Germany by the way.

>Rutte 1
>cordon sanitaire

Also
geenstijl.nl/mt/archieven/2015/10/democratie___daar_moet_een_piemel_in.html

"Ik zou niets liever doen dan de premier worden van een kabinet Wilders 1 als dat hem zou gaan worden"

PVV sends a clearer "fuck immigration" message than the "we are le moderate concerned voice" VNL meme

I don't know why people here in Sup Forums of all places seem to think that economics are more revelant for voting than immigration when central banks are the ones that define economic policy anyways

Not even the french socialists could get pass the central banking firewall when they tried to increase taxes

Cmon lad, you know it's there after MINDER

Because reputation also influences votes dipshit

Same as I said I am afraid that before the election, VNL seems relevant and then on election day everybody just goes for VVD again, thus voiding my vote :(

how many ministers did PVV get?

oh right, zero, they were never invited to the cabinet

why would you blaming for saying "fuck that" is beyond me

Totdat er bezuinigd moet worden.

Dan is het huilie huilie, nieuwe verkiezingen, en PvdA weer aan de macht.

Sooo, what's teirh actual immigration policies? both of PVV and VNL? can't find anything substancial on the internet

Protip: Any relevant right-wing party will immediatly get a bad reputation by the media, every error will be magnified, every policy will be denounced in the most explicit way

People that care about mainstream reputation are not people that are going to vote for VNL or to anything of the right of VVD - CDA

>panama
shouldn't you be be harvesting cocaine or something?

>Italy

Europeans are welcome, if you're willing to adjust and not fuck any niggers or mudkikes, otherwise you gotta go back.

>how many ministers did PVV get?

One: Uri Rosenthal (minister of sucking up to Israel)

should you be consuming it? lel

u wut

Uri Rosenthal was VVD

0 asylumseekers with closed borders, only regular legal migration allowed.

VNL has a very clear 'fuck immigration' message, they just don't scream as loud which makes them votable for middle class. Also, their economics are pretty sound.

I'm imaging a coalition of PVV, VNL and VVD with all the leftist fucktards of VVD flushed out...

It'll probably be SP, PvdA, VVD, D66 though, running the country directly into the ground.

I would vote for the VNL but they have no shot. Vote for the PVV if you want actual change.

Het is een proxy.

Aan zijn slechte Engels te zien is het een Arubaan, oftewel bosneger.

dude coke lmao

> only regular legal migration allowed.

PVV wants to stop chain-migration as welll (which has been the mainb driver of the growth of the morroccan community since the 60s)

>SP
>in a coalition with VVD/D66
I think you mean GL

This is exactly the mentality that ensures that they have no shot. If everyone that agrees with VNL more than PVV would actually vote for VNL, they might easily get some seats and could form a coalition.

> they just don't scream as loud

aka: they won't reform chain migration, leading to the same endless growth of moroccans that was happening before the refugee crisis

VVD in an extreme case. I think they would throw overboard all their principles just to stay in the government.

D66, sure why not? That party is leftist as fuck anyway.

Wilders demanded he'd got the job.
He's very close to Wilders and just as much of an Israel supporter.

That's great and all but nobody is going to do that. It's much more important to me on the short term that the PVV is large enough so that the VVD is forced into a coalition with them.

They don't have a shot this election maybe next. So few people have actually ever heard of the party.

SP is fiercely anti-EU, D66 are eurofederalists. And they are complete polar opposites of the VVD in every single way.

They're not gonna find common ground lad. GL is the new PVDA, they're a much better option for a purple coalition.

>Groenlinks
Groenlinks would be the absolute worst. They are the ultimate cucks.

Zijn er plekken waar je rechtse pamfletten en stickers kunt kopen in Nederland om te verspreiden?

Ik wil ze over antifa propaganda gaan heenplakken, het liefst met een scheermes er onder en de pamfletten overal neerleggen.

SP member here, the D66 are a bunch of classical liberals with some hip and progressive themes. They fucked over students and the middle class and are scum. Most elitist party in the whole of the Netherlands

You seem to believe that Uri Rosenthal was an outside of the VVD that randomly got the job because of Wilders

That is really not the case, specially given that he was the senate leader of VVD all the way back to 2005

>fucked over student
I'm a student and I really don't mind lending some money and paying it back later with no interest. Why do we deserve free gibsmedat?

>SP member here

>D66 are eurofederalists. And they are complete polar opposites of the VVD

Yet they are in the same EU fraction (ELDR).

In reality VVD is extremely pro-EU
The EU freedom of settlement rule that triggered the Brexit was made by a VVD member, for example.
They just don't want to admit to their pro-mass migration, pro EU meddling stance anymore because it means losing votes to Wilders.

Vote to machen europa great again

Cute animu

Hitler fucking despised the Swiss though.

Because of the jewish bank system there is no loan without interests or payments.

As long as you're not leading, not gonna let you guys fuck up Europe for a 5th time.

How things have changed.

If only Verdonk had won the VVD leadership election back then.

If you're a student you're most likely not going to find people that support ome Geert or the PVV. I used to be really into Geert aswell untill I actually met people who vote PVV and discovered that they all have an IQ under 90 and work minimum wage jobs. No smart person will take you serious if you say you vote PVV.

He still got the job to please Wilders.

But the real point is: Wilders was yielding tremendous power over Rutte 1.
He insulted Rutte and the next day it was Rutte who had to apologize to Wilders. - that says it all.

And he let it all go becasue he's too scared of responsibilities.
Wilders will never accept a real position.
He has never even worked a day in his life you know? (except for unpaid labor for his Jewish masters).

just being honest m8

Its preventing alot of people from lower backgrounds (yes foreigners aswell) to study and better their position. I can say this as someone whos father was a construction worker and mom a housewife. If i would have gotten 30 000 debt my parents wouldnt have me study, rather work.

But it looks like not many people actually agree with VNL, but obviously I don't know all that much about it, it's just my impression

Nah you don't understand students in the Netherlands can lend with barley no interest for their education. That is the new system. Instead of getting it all for free.

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>NSB'ers the thread

If she had, most of the prominent VVD members would have switched to D66.

I'm afraid that PVV alone would fuck up majorly on economic policy, then we'd be back at PvdA, GroenLinks and CDA next term.

I agree that things need to happen on the short term concerning immigration, but VNL and PVV have nearly identical standpoints on immigration, they disagree on economic policy.

>mfw cummed inside a 1m74 blonde blue eyed thin modeling dutch girl that is in my class 4 hours ago

>If only Rita had won

youtube.com/watch?v=nXQAYlCoYDE

We could've prevented this.

And we, the electorate, would have had an actual conservative party to vote for.

But it was basically austria at the helm both times.

that's because no one knows about VNL. They sit in the Kamer because they stole seats, not because someone voted for VNL. They are doing their best to get known right now but PVV shits all over their nuances standpoints and just go IMMIGRANTS OUT REEEE

I have an IQ of 116 and make 800k a year, nice bait.

>Its preventing alot of people from lower backgrounds (yes foreigners aswell) to study and better their position

No sorry but it does not. It not just any loan it's a loan on very fair terms. You have to pay next to no interest and if you're unable find a job you don't have to payback anything at all.

So how does it prevent anyone from getting an education? even if you get some meme-degree you can still get out for free. If anything it just taxes the people that actually work more.

you have to be tall for modelling though

The only conservative party in the Netherlands is the SGP.

We only have neoliberals and nationalist socialists on the right side.

this. confirmed lie or hobbyist model.

That made me chuckle

>I used to be really into Geert aswell untill I actually met people who vote PVV and discovered that they all have an IQ under 90 and work minimum wage jobs.

le ebin "I agree with that party but fuck it! it gets supports from the white working class! HOW IT DARES! We don't wanna be like THOSE people... refugees welcome btw" meme

> mfw Sup Forums is inflitrated with self-righteous leftists

Vote PVV, coward, they need enough votes. Don't waste that shit on VNL.

How are you going to vote? Are you going to use your friend's right to vote? That's fine, I guess, and yes, vote PVV.
Voting anything else makes you a cuck and a part of the problem.

>conservative
conserve what? Our constitution does not even protect freedom of speech or the right to self-preservation. Got nothing proud to conserve.

>No sorry but it does not.

Haven't university applications dropped dramatically?

And isn't it mostly children from low income families who aren't applying anymore?

Yes I am a student, my mother is dutch and she says Geert is the dutch version of Trump
I personally could give a shit if people take me seriously or not, it's just that I don't want to get expelled for hate speech or some shit

>Haven't university applications dropped dramatically?
Some have that is true but that is not because of the law that is because people don't understand the way it works. read my previous comment. Even if you fail to get a job you can get off scot-free so how exactly is it unfair?

>Being honest

I'm being honest that you should be hanged, landverrader.
Socialism will lead to communism, that's part of their beliefs, you literally want to subject your fellow countrymen to hell on earth.

My girlfriend is Serbian and she and her parents escaped the hell her parets had to go through in Serbia, half her family was slaughtered for being Christians you fucking goof.

You're voting for a party that received money from Mao, the biggest genocidal maniac who has ever lived, you deserve to be kicked out of the Netherlands and thrown out of an airplane above Venezuela.

Hitler loved all Germanics, you clown. He even tried to meet peace treaties with the UK.

Vote for the PVV and tell your mother she should vote VNL because they are good goys that refused to support his 'MINDER MINDER' speech that'll have the best chance of convincing her if she's a cucky leftist.

>she says Geert is the dutch version of Trump
Why don't people realise Trump is the 'merican version of Geert?

Trump is a crappy imitation tho

>how does it prevent anyone from getting an education?

It doesn't, but it removes a lot of its rewards.

Young people can choose:
- work right away, and have a super comfy young adulthood.
- study and don't get any real money until you're too old to really enjoy it.

Tell us about Geert. How based i he?

forgive me senpai I just looked it up must've been indoctrination by the Dutch Education system.

MINDER
MINDER
MINDER MAROKKANEN

>that is not because of the law that is because people don't understand the way it works

Then it's still because of the law.

>Because of the laws of economics there is no loan without interests or payments.
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