Why does Sup Forums worship this guy?
He was an evil dictator that killed people who disagreed with him
Why does Sup Forums worship this guy?
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The people who disagreed with him were wrong
stop propagating the helicopterhoax myth.
Pinochet was a good boy, he didn't do anything.
He killed Marxists who wanted to wreck and destroy the nation and turn it into Cuba 2.0
So what happened to freedom of speech? He can't just kill people because they disagree with him
In fact he sounds a lot like an sjw
Fag what the fuck?!?!?
You were born in this SJW generation of hippies and think that socialist were this passive the whole history?
Socialists in Chile were as violent as the ones in Araguaya in Brasil, stop with the "b-but they just disagreed". They were at fucking WAR, not in political debate.
For fucks sake....
Watch the Chicago Boys documentary.
For dictatorship's standards, he was relatively benevolent. Also, made Chile the best latinoamerican country.
There is literally nothing wrong with killing communists. They'd kill us all if they ever got the chance. They are just as bad as kebab.
But if you said "I believe in communism" you were shot on sight.
Pinochet was a general in Chile's people-starving miserable commie-run government. He was sick of seeing his people deprived and stolen from and treated like garbage and eventually he got mad enough to want to kill -ALL- the commies who were starving his people.
He drove his army into the capital and jailed all the disgusting communists running the system that oppressed his nation.
Pinochet cracked ~2000 commie skulls, chased off ~200,000 commies and sympathizers, and kept an iron grip on Chile's political system while letting the market flourish.
Chile rapidly had one of, if not the highest human development index and quality of life of any South American country, it's people thrived, and it became the envy of the continent.
Good
OF COURSE PORRA VIADO, IT WOULD BE LIKE SAYING I BELIEVE HITLER IN 1946 GERMANEEEEE CARALHOOOOOO
If it wasn't for these ''Evil dictators'' south america would've been a bigger shithole than what it is now.
Marxist can have no expectation of "Freedom of Speech", they are not humans and all need to be exterminated like the rats they are.
fuck off leaf you reddit browsing liberal cunt
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Because thats exactly what Sup Forums wants to do with those they disagree with
Marxists aren't people.
why is it a bad thing is there anything more bad ass then flying your enemy's over the south pacific and throwing them out of a helicopter
How violent was Allende?
>murdering leftists
>Evil
pic related was a better commie remover desu
Allende, Chile's socialist leader, was the first who would try to implement market socialism. There goes that plan..
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>evil dictator
>his country is now the best and most prosperous Latin American country
>country's without evil dictators who went full commie
>see Venezuela
Think the people of chile aren't that mad desu
He is a saint.
>Implying the economy wouldn't have been worse under commie rule
((()))
The short term was bad, sure, that's to be expected of any radical changes to any government, but long term he made Chile the best country of south america.
Made gommies fly and made the economy liberal, best dictator ever.
He caused hyperinflation and bankrupted the country. He is the main reason for the poor
More like in the short term it destroyed the country in the long term it turned it into a perfect US puppet state completely defendant on their masters whose whole economy despite the FREE MARKET meme relies 100% on the NATIONAL copper mines
If only they were free from being puppets like you, then they experience true Argentinian prosperity
In Brasil's dictatorship the same shit was happening, you had the guerrillas doing the violent front, and the moderate commies on the other side dominating the media and all. This is standard strategy from this kind of fuckers: divide into two "opposing" groups and try to make it like they're not fighting for the same bullshit.
>it turned it into a perfect US puppet state completely defendant on their masters
Not more than any other developed country
>whose whole economy despite the FREE MARKET meme relies 100% on the NATIONAL copper mines
Not all of them are national, and copper mines only make less than 50% of our GDP
If he was so bad, then how come Chile became so much better than all the other south american countries considering they are all as dependent from the USA as us?
>literally defending a bunch of faggots celebrating being slaves
I would insult you but you are the samefaggot who wrote all the replies so i don't know what insult is fitting, most likely enjoy your union and the mexicans that come with it
>Had UNASUL linked government for fuck knows how long
>Says Chile is the puppet
You can't make this shit up...
FPBP
Adios, mi general.
>Not more than any other developed country
Yes more because your social services are shit and all your people come here whenever they need something and thats is going to end soon
>Not all of them are national, and copper mines only make less than 50% of our GDP
>Copper goes down
>Chilean currency goes down with it
>Half of the economy comes from NATIONAL OWNED MINES
>25% from NATIONAL MINES related products
>rest is agriculture
>Free market my ass
Why don't you mass privatize all the mines? what about the free market?
see
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Brazil really needs some free helicopter rides.
>calling it murder
Waste disposal
I think you're exaggerating this a bit
A couple thousand died over the course of his 17 year reign
Now ideally killing Political opponents is a bad thing, but when you're a developing country that desperately needs stability and your opponents are both violent and want to completely tear down the current system, the ends justify the means.
Okay, you guys realize the helicopter rides were in Argentina, not Chile. Right?
>evil
He killed commies so he was good
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>Yes more because your social services are shit
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>and all your people come here whenever they need something and thats is going to end soon
[citation needed]
Funny you say that, because people from Argentina como here to Chile to buy tech stuff all the time.
>Half of the economy comes from NATIONAL OWNED MINES
Not even a 15% of our economy is thanks to copper, even less if you mean NATIONAL mines.
>rest is agriculture
>says Argentina
Even then, Agriculture and forestry only make up 2.8% of our GDP. Try again, you envious nigger
>Free market my ass
I hope you're doing well with all that corruption and restricted markets over there!
>Why don't you mass privatize all the mines?
Yeah, let's do it. Altough to be honest, the national copper mines are competent.
>what about the free market?
We are ranked 7th of the world, we are fine.
shh, we like memes!
In Argentina, Chile, Uruguay and maybe in Brazil and Paraguay too
Not only he killed a lot of people that disagree with him, aka commies and socialist, he also killed many innocent people whose only crime was being registrered on one of those parties even though they didn´t take part on a single meeting of said parties (some of them were 14 years old), he also killed christians and moderates who started questioning him for the human rights violations, he also give the control of many state owned enterprise, such a SQM the biggest producer of lithium carbonate on the world to his son in law, and many other to his friends. Oh, and the big reason of the deaths and illegal detention was that the Allende supporter and other factions, were allegedly holding weapons and ammunition in case of a military coup (he wasn´t a 2nd amendment fan), to this day they are still trying to find said weapons, because you see the Allende goverment wasn't very alligned with the USSR, discarding their violent ways of getting into power.
He also is responsible for a economic crisis bigger than the one produced by Allende, during 1982, which in the end make all the killing really unnecesary.
I've got no doubt that Allende did an awful job, but there was a democratic solution that didn't involved the killing of part of the population, the violation of many rights and living under a curfew for 17 years
I have no problem with the killing of lefties, it's for the greater good and for peace and prosperity.
>Not only he killed a lot of people that disagree with him, aka commies and socialist, he also killed many innocent people whose only crime was being registrered on one of those parties
>registered communist party member
>not a communist
what kind of weird doublethink is this?
For stability peace and progress they had to die.
>there was a democratic solution that didn't involved the killing of part of the population
I wish there was, but there wasn't. Wait a few more years for the next presidential election just so another communist could become president?
I agree the violations of human rights was excessive (although not as much as other dictatorships).
He has a fair point when it comes to 14 year olds though.
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>Not even a 15% of our economy is thanks to copper, even less if you mean NATIONAL mines.
What?
>Even then, Agriculture and forestry only make up 2.8% of our GDP. Try again, you envious nigger
Keep in mind no dollars no economy
>Yeah, let's do it. Altough to be honest, the national copper mines are competent.
But they can be better, FREE MARKET is always right
>We are ranked 7th of the world, we are fine.
Then why do you have national mines?
Why are you opressing the mining sector?
He was better than the alternative at the time - commies that kill people who disagree with them, fuck up the economy for decades, require a civil war to get rid of, followed by shock therapy to re-implement capitalism.
The economic and social outcomes of all the US-backed military dictatorships are much better than the Soviet satellite states. It goes to show that even with government repression and corruption, not disintegrating the free market and entrepreneurship goes a long way for the common man.
Yeah thats pretty a good stuff, leftists either will kill you and/or will ruin your country. Brazil is shit nowadays because the military let the moderate left to take hold in the establishment.
Human rights are ruining this country you flaite comunacho.
We are a shit tier nation , we doesn't deserve what Pinochet tried to give us
is not double thinking, some people registered on the party, then never attended or didn't care, but got killed because their name was on the registers, some other people were on jail just because they worked on a goverment office, with no actual affiliation to the parties, just a normal job
Because the guys killed socialist scum and fixed Chile's economy. The fact they are the only stable nation in South America says it all
necessary casualties.
>that killed people who disagreed with him
Sounds like a Sup Forumsfags wet dream.
obviously he didn't kill enough
Communists BTFO
At least you managed to piss out on that cunt
Meanwhile in Venezuela, they try taking the ownership of muh family's factory because they cant fucking function with anything other than oil
nice strawman.
>Students rebel because universities in chile are more expensive than the ones in the US
>Government cuts a fund that was given to the upper classes
>after beating the crap out of the students
>gotta keep people uneducated and dependent on foreign technical workers Intellectuals and professors
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>Meanwhile in Argentina universities are 100% free
Pinochet was a CIA puppet, like many other leaders in South America, I have no respect for people who allow themselves to be controlled.
Fair enough on those three links.
>What?
Judging from your pic, you do know GDP isn't only about exportation, right? Because that's what the image is displaying.
Even then, the updated chart from 2014 says copper only made about 30% of our exportations
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>Keep in mind no dollars no economy
Well, no shit. That goes for you as well.
>But they can be better, FREE MARKET is always right
Of course
>Then why do you have national mines?
Not even the 1st place has privatized everything
We are good, don't let anybody tell you otherwise
Unless we elect another socialist president...
Can I get some links on this please?
I'm pretty aware on South America's infultration groups run by America, but not enough.
And shit
keep dreaming, the only good thing that Pinochet gave us was the oportunitie that real MADMAN could design the Cluster bomb and some cool helicopters. All the progress of this country and the economic system was implanted during Democracy, right up until the goverment of Piñera, and if the model is in jeopardy now is because the excess and crimes of the UDI and SQM that caused a major butthurt and that the people start losing faith on the neoliberal system, also the Chancho Culiao son of Bachelet, but if the right doesn't get his shit straight we are going to get a commie goverment on the next years
I'm perfectly okay with having people killed for disagreeing with capitalism.
Most of them are myths, USA didn't do 5% in LA of what USSR did.
sounds like literally human nature upon gaining power
>Not even the 1st place has privatized everything
But if FREE MARKET is good why arent you applying it to everything?
>Judging from your pic, you do know GDP isn't only about exportation, right? Because that's what the image is displaying.
Even then, the updated chart from 2014 says copper only made about 30% of our exportations
>Thats only 30% of our exports in 2014
>2014 exports
>50%+ NATIONAL mining shit
>20%+ NATIONAL mining related shit
>rest is agriculture shit
>Well, no shit. That goes for you as well.
Exactly. Your exports are in their vast majority tied to your government
DUDE FREE MARKET
LMAO
Fuiste a una de afuera?
Sure, but it was for the best.
Yeah, universities here are expensive, but they are just as good as Argentinian ones.
I wouldn't trade free universities for all the drawbacks of being argentina, like higher corruption, crime, poverty, and less gdp ppp per capita.
Pinochet was the reason the return to democracy by socialists presidents didn't go to shit. Because he had implemented the free market already.
people weren´t killed just because they disagreed with capitalism, they were killed under the asumption that they were keeping guns in order to protect themselves from a tyranical goverment, some of them were capitalist and/or crhistians, so you are in favour of the second amnendment or not
Dont know why people prefer him over based Videla, after all he wanst a U.S puppet
Nah, you don't know that. Typical idiot who thinks he has the truth
%+ NATIONAL mining shit
%+ NATIONAL mining related shit
Moving goalposts now? You were talking about copper, not mining.
>>rest is agriculture shit
About 20% of it is
Have you checked your graph btw? Literally more than the 50% of it is agriculture!
>But if FREE MARKET is good why arent you applying it to everything?
Free Market is good, but I have my doubts about an anarcho-capitalist political system, you know? And I would guess most people do as well. Like we are now when it comes to free markets we are fine. Could be better though.
the first socialist president we had had is Bachelet on his second mandate, all the other ones were some nebulose ideology that protected free market. My point is that people weren't going to vote for another socialist because Allende wasn't very popular, the thing that made him more popular is the way he ended his life, motherfucker was consecuent and people here resonate with that.
Also we should talk more about cluster bombs, how do you like them?
>Yeah, universities here are expensive, but they are just as good as Argentinian ones.
Im not saying they are better or worse im saying most of your people can't go to them
>I wouldn't trade free universities for all the drawbacks of being argentina, like higher corruption, crime, poverty, and less gdp ppp per capita.
I wish the hundreds of thosuands of your country men who keep mass migrating thought the same. They are famous for pickpocketing people
Argentina was 100% non corruption related crime free up until all the rest of latin nigger countries started to mass migrate here
I didnt even lock my door when i was a kid
>For the best
>My country got conquered for the best
I refuse to believe you are chilean
>Moving goalposts now? You were talking about copper, not mining.
NATIONAL MINING
NATIONAL OWNED
The meme is that chile is GREAT because MUH FREE MARKET and its all made up bullshit
>Free Market is good, but I have my doubts about an anarcho-capitalist political system, you know? And I would guess most people do as well. Like we are now when it comes to free markets we are fine. Could be better though.
Regulations prevent anarcho capitalism not the government owning some mines
without the mines the CHILEAN GOVERNMENT WOULD HAVE 0 MONEY
0
NO
MONEY
COMPLETELY BANKRUPT
how i couldn´t know something that pinochet said himself on the press "we are attacking subversive elements" and coincidentally all of those elements that indeed have weapons werent killed like pigs on a slaughter house
We always had corruption, allbeit but it was never put before the wellbeing of the nation
Meanwhile OP most likely praises Mao as a brave leader.
most of the people can enter the universities, although you ended with massive debts depending on he credit you chose
What's to stop someone from killing a commie nigger? Who even cares about dead commies?
Thats why we had 1 gorillion coups so that REAL DEMOCARCY THAT HAS BEEN TRIED could be implemented
Yea thats why they protest like this and the police by order of the government beat the crap out of them
>the first socialist president we had had is Bachelet on his second mandate, all the other ones were some nebulose ideology that protected free market
Hmm, let's see...
>Aylwin and Frei
>members of Christian Democratic Party
>Political position: Centre[2][7] to Centre-left[4][8]
>Lagos
>member of Party for Democracy
>Political position: Centre-left[3]
>Bachelet (x2)
>member of Concertacion and Nueva Mayoria
>Political position: Center-left[1][2][3] and Centre-left[1][2][3][4] to Left-wing[5]
>Piñera
>member of National Renewal
>Political position: Centre-right[5] to Right-wing[6][7]
>My point is that people weren't going to vote for another socialist because Allende wasn't very popular
Maybe, but having to wait for the next elections? Hmm, risky
>Also we should talk more about cluster bombs, how do you like them?
Neutron bombs would be the best
>Thats why we had 1 gorillion coups so that REAL DEMOCARCY THAT HAS BEEN TRIED could be implemented
o wait and alfonsin and de la rua got couped too!
Didn't Videla kill way more commies than him?
This real democracy is what is desintegrating this country, id rather stay with Justo's phony elections than with any of the past 30 years of uninterupted misery
i love it when Sup Forums chumps think they'd be spared in a sub human cleansing.
Not enough, that is the difference
Dunno who that is, but shit it's pretty difficult to find politicians who don't kill people who disagree with them.
ITT: Nationalist Socialist jerking off this guy
>Im not saying they are better or worse im saying most of your people can't go to them
And that's a bad thing? We don't need people with degrees everywhere working for minimum salary jobs because all their supposed jobs are taken.
>I wish the hundreds of thosuands of your country men who keep mass migrating thought the same. They are famous for pickpocketing people
Good.
>Argentina was 100% non corruption related crime free up until all the rest of latin nigger countries started to mass migrate here
lmao
>I refuse to believe you are chilean
>having a trading partner means you have been conquered
Yeah, I guess we conquered the USA. How nice.
>NATIONAL MINING
>NATIONAL OWNED
>The meme is that chile is GREAT because MUH FREE MARKET and its all made up bullshit
It's true though. Mining helps, but we have far more than that. Plus, most people have similar things, like Argentina with over 50% agriculture, Venezuela with oil, etc. But the difference is we are doing good, unlike those.
>without the mines the CHILEAN GOVERNMENT WOULD HAVE 0 MONEY
Go check the graph I posted again. About half of our economy is not mining. The same could be said about you and agriculture, you know?
>COMPLETELY BANKRUPT
How much inflation do you guys have again? We are around 3% or less last time I checked.
>My point is that people weren't going to vote for another socialist because Allende wasn't very popular
that doesn't matter, it's the cold war, the USSR would agitate the public and subvert the military, until they have a window for a coup
You can't even express yourself, your english (or redaction, who knows) is awful...
You are a retard, dude
Good things he did:
>killed communists
Bad things he did:
>let Friedman cuck their economy a little too much
>oppress everyone
All in all I'd say he was alright. Not my favourite but certainly not an "evil" guy.