Guys i need some relationship advice. I have a French girlfriend who is very blue-pilled and i need a way to slowly start converting her to the right wing mindset. She is pro-feminism, pro-islam, pro-lgbt, anti-brexit, anti-gun, etc. I don't know if it has anything to do with her being French but living under the EU probably turned her into this. We get along pretty well but that's probably because i always choose to keep my mouth closed in regards to politics and hide my power level. She is coming to move in with me in a few months and i need to come up with a plan soon.
Also, if you can't be honest with her about your values, you need to end it.
Let me ask you this.
Does she want to have kids? Does she want to raise kids? Does she believe in marriage? Has she slept around a lot?
She needs to be on the same page.
It's not so much that I think all women need to be pure-virgins.
I'm just saying that she needs to share YOUR values and be on the same page with YOU or the relationship won't work. You have to share the same goals.
Thomas Jenkins
Well we were apart for a few months after she left the states but now since we decided our relationship was serious, shes coming down to stay permanently.
Chase Davis
it's very common amongst young french women cant deliver any piece of advice, sorry. It's the biggest issue in France for young men. French women fell for the awful meme of gender war and the couples are rarely viable, while decent guys cannot into families because the women are told to be smug and bitchy.
also there is no institutionnalized dating and men who do not know how to begin with women are numerous
Christian Myers
Its not that im not honest about my values its just that i dont express them nearly as much as she does.
Evan Cook
>pro-feminism More detail please, is she women around the world should be able to vote? or is she like "SLEEP AROUND TO DEFEAT THE MEN"?
>Pro-Islam Laughable, being pro or anti any religion is. allowing people to be free thinkers is the way forward.
>Pro-lgbt supporting bugchasers is wrong, dump her.
>Anti-Brexit meh
>Anti-gun More like anti-fun am I right?
Exchange Ideas, if she is totally unaccepting of new ideas, I wouldn't go out with her. You should allow your opinions to change and expand overtime as you go through life.
Evan Reed
The first thing is to convince her that people have the right to self determination, and government is our servant, rather than our master. Once this has been established, the rest will follow.
Ethan Sullivan
Dump her now.
Mason Hernandez
Dump this bitch bro and get a real girlfriend
Parker Morales
Make her see that her beliefs contradict one another. Tell her that Islam is an enemy to LGBT and Feminism, that guns can protect women where the police fail (point to Rotherham and Cologne), and how the EU is letting in Muslims, who will in turn oppose her other issues. You must divide and concour my friend. Even if you are left with a LGBT supporting feminist, you can still kill the other horrible things she believes in. Plus, if she listens to you on that, she will be more receptive to some of your other ideals. Women also like to signal, so if you introduce her to other red-pilled people, she will likely be open to redpill ideas.
Daniel Gonzalez
Here let me try to explain: >Pro feminism Shes not too extreme in this field but she does believe the gender wage gap meme so thats not good.
>Pro-Islam By this i meant she is pro refugee/ pro immigration and wants countries such as the US to accept more.
>Pro-lgbt Every state should allow fags to marry, etc.
>Anti-Brexit Refer back to Pro-refugee.
>anti-gun one of my main problems with her thinking. This is the only topic we have had arguments over. She wants the gun laws to be just like in France, obviously.
Zachary Hall
>who is very blue-pilled and i need a way to slowly start converting her to the right wing mindset You're starting off the wrong way. Red-pilled doesn't mean right wing, it means no ideology. Ideology is what makes you not see reality for what it is. Removing ideology removes the veil.
Adrian Cooper
>there is no institutionnalized dating What does this even mean?
Alexander Jackson
crypto-zizek detected.
David Stewart
GO TO /ADV/ FAGGOT
Brody King
I have been with her for more than 2 years now, i dont want to waste all of this progress.
Ethan Murphy
Please don't import another Hill shill or Bernie voter, user. We have enough of them already.
Levi Flores
Dont bring this bitch over here. Find a red pilled American girl. I hope this isnt a situation where you have never met in real life.
Jack Sanchez
How does it feel knowing your women are getting YANKED
Austin Collins
Of course we have met. She used to live here. I think i already stated that.
Henry Bell
Don't waste your time, bail out before she pussy-whips you into submission.
Ryan Green
Yes but this is someone you're considering spending your life with.
You have to share the same goals and values, that's all I'm saying.
Andrew Brooks
This. She will raise your children to become gender fluid feminists or some shit. She sounds straight out of SJW University.
Luke Butler
>2 years >she still believes in every globalist lie in the book >"""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""progress"""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""
Hudson Walker
>Pro Feminism Can't really help you here bud.
>Pro-Islam Explain to her how more refugees will only radicalize more right wingers, as they fear the destruction of their culture, leading into the anti-gun argument.
>pro-lgbt I don't really care, as long as they don't force churches and other places to go along with it that are independent of the state.
>Anti-Brexit ????? not really hers to be worried about desu.
>Anti-Gun Explain it is so much a gun problem as it is cultural, Switzerland and Canada have high gun ownership but little or no mass shootings. There are millions of guns in England but the last mass shooting was five years.
Ian Gutierrez
It means all he wanted was a Pepsi.
Julian Mitchell
which is why i need a plan to red-pill her.
Gabriel Ortiz
Yes.
If you were a libtard OP, I'd say go for it and be a libtard couple together.
But since you're a redpilled American Nationalist. You need to be with someone who shares your values.
Personally, I would never marry a woman I didn't think I could count on or who didn't have strong family values.
Zachary Peterson
Suggest to move to a place full of niggers and muslims, let her think about the joys of multiculturalism for a while. Check out the places, go for a walk in da hood, drink some tea to a man's only muslim tea place and shit like that. Then give her small doses of white pride, like the good parts of colonialism (no diseases, education, jobs, security... As opposed to pure mad max).
If you wanna have kids say things like:
> I don't think our kids should be ashamed of being white.
Luke Carter
Tell her the truth about how you feel about things. Better to tell her now than down the road when you have some baguette telling you everything you think is wrong.
Brayden Hill
Well, if I were as determined as you about it.
I guess I'd start by taking her shooting. I'd work it from the angle of "I believe that women should be independent, and should be able to defend themselves."
Push the idea that strong women should be able to do anything that men can do, and that includes using guns.
That's a way to get her behind the 2nd Amendment.
You can also talk about incidents like Cologne, and talk about how horrible it is.
Asher Torres
Why on earth would you consider such a woman as your girlfriend.
Jason Brown
Literally just show her Sup Forums. That's what I did with my current girlfriend.
Brody Davis
Good looks, nice ass and chebs. plenty of reasons really.
Jose Gutierrez
How'd work out?
Cameron Williams
just give your best in the bed, at some point she should be addicted to you enough to abandon all of her normie beliefs
Daniel Brooks
I don't believe you can convince her to be into the right wing mindset but you might be able to make her accept your views on the subjects. Just talk with her about your personal experiences and what made you redpilled.
Charles Hall
Jesus, ignore everything I just said in that post.
That's not going to work and it's a sure way to get cucked.
Just be honest about your values.
Does she even want to have kids?
Adrian Kelly
She knows about some of my beliefs. I own several firearms for example. She doesnt like it and ive had a few arguments trying to explain to her why i have them. Its not mentioned as much anymore but i know it bothers her.
Samuel Martinez
Or end it now so you don't have to waste any more time making "progress". Do you honestly see her changing her mind? Imagine someone trying to change your political views to the left, I'm willing to bet it would never happen.
Easton Evans
Start off with Brexit, then talk about how too much immigration is bad. Bring up gun statistics, but don't focus too much on guns. Bring up the racial IQ gap, and point out that it can't entirely be explained by social factors. After that you can probably introduce her to Sup Forums. Don't rush it
Charles Clark
She sometimes mocks jews at inappropriate moments and tells her friends that the NSA and the deep state hamstring every election to sway the people to their bidding (in girlspeak).
Caleb Thomas
>Its not mentioned as much anymore but i know it bothers her.
She seems into you, could I ask why do you own guns? Practice round on me.
Charles Nguyen
lel'd. jewish mocking gf, that's the dream.
Juan Evans
Yeah, show her Sup Forums. Next thing you know she will be into traps and wanting him to dress up like a wolf and fuck her.
Christian Lewis
>She is pro-feminism, pro-islam, pro-lgbt, anti-brexit, anti-gun, etc. Sounds like trash.
Eli Martin
At least she's willing to have sex with him, who knows how far down Cuckold row OP's relationship will go if he allows bluepilled jewish tricks to reign in his household.
Levi Ortiz
Listen OP. You need to be dominant, but not abrasive. Thing is, if she gets the chance to throw a buzzword at you (racist, islamophobe...), she will. That's how the media teaches bluepilled individuals to act.
You need to be prepared, with facts and confidence, to defeat the buzzwords before anything else.
Women are naturally submissive to their partner's opinions, especially when common tricks don't work and the man is strict and keeps his cool.
Lastly, don't get yourself in legal trouble. "Domestic violence" means shouting a bit these days. Record yourselves secretly for the first few months in case of false allegations.
It's a goddamn hassle to deal with women. I don't understand why you'd even want to bother, but good luck.
Justin Barnes
I own guns because i feel i should be responsible for my own safety and for my own liberty. the government is not there to protect you, so you must find a way to protect yourself by any means necessary.
Caleb Fisher
REEEEE but why do you feel so unsafe, who is going to come after you? I do not feel comfortable living with guns user...cant you just get rid of them for me?
Jonathan Jackson
>Hey Sup Forums help me red pill a humanoid animal she-person No.. Listen, women have never been and will never ever ever be red pilled. Women don't value civilization, in fact.. In most cases they don't even know what it is. You will red pill her and then Ahmed Bin Mustafa will blue pill her back if he truly cucks you.
Women only follow trends. They don't keep ideas or principles, they have the attention span of a fucking mosquito both socially and intellectually. This is why women never ruled (unless they were very crude and high test) and this is why your societies are falling.
"Red Pilled" women who are nationalistic or religious have one and only one desire: to break the taboo. Women only care about breaking taboos because they think it's "exciting". They want to be special in all of their social circles and will thusly do everything they can to be special. Women are simpleminded, OP, this is also why they often fall for their enemies and love being raped while trying to save their social face. Women are a walking Stockholm syndrome.
So stop trying to red pill her: fuck her without a condom and then leave. If she wants a relationship you give her your terms. Go full power level. If she stays she's you're average woman. If she leaves, you dodged an future adultery bullet. Women aren't people, OP. This is the final red pill. Swallow it and never look back.
Landon King
i don't feel unsafe, but that's because i own firearms.
Henry Sanchez
Here's a cucked answer that will always work:
It's always better to be prepared rather than not. I love you and I want to be able to protect you, whatever tries to hurt you. I could never forgive myself if I let you down because of powerlessness.
Ugh, I feel gross even typing this out.
Aiden Clark
Make it more personal, here's a something I used once.
I'm short 5'6/7 that means my daughters will probably also be short, unfortunately there is lot of people out that can overpower, I'd feel a lot happier if I knew she would be able to defend herself against any aggressors.
I also used feminism rape stats to my advantage on this one.
Justin Jones
Lots of truths in these words, but unfortunately for OP your recommended "take it out leave it" attitude would not work. Women like feeling like they're in control while at the same time knowing the men will pick up the slack if it doesn't work.
Which is why you must act strict yet """loving""" and """protective""".
Jaxson Phillips
Better not say the 1 in 4 myth to her. She might Google it and find the hornet's nest of myths and feminist man-hating conspiracies and start trying to cuck you.
Jonathan Williams
The easiest way to win is be way more (((liberal))) in your arguments about things that are in their minds not liberal.
>you know the first gun regulations were written to disarm black people, right??? (condescending tone is very necessary) >if we can't trust the police to treat everybody equally regardless of race, how can we expect them to not abuse their power when they are the only ones armed? Disarming black people (or anybody else) is not going to make the police less prejudiced, just less anxious about exerting their prejudice! >we need to disarm every police officer and soldier before we can pass laws banning guns in the public for the above stated reasons. After that, we can ban guns across the country (this is an impossible standard and will never happen) I have brute forced my way through many, many arguments with gun grabbers using that tactic.
Brody Bailey
OP's gf already believes the wage gap, if she mentions it, use it against her.
Nathan Clark
No buts about it, OP.
Long Distance Relationships is codeword for Certified Cuck Relationships
Brandon Mitchell
I don't know if that would work with OP's gf though especially as she isn't American, but it will certainly BTFO most university liberals.
Josiah Baker
Id say its a lost cause. How old is she? If shes younger i suppose she can be fixed otherwise i would seriously outweigh the pros and cons here
Easton Torres
Not easy to just dump someone you care about though, i assume op wants a long term relationship with this woman.
Bentley Morris
This is a great way to be PC while promoting a non-PC position. Good advice, even for outside of relationships (work relations, smalltalk...)
Mmh... I believe it's better to defuse the myths as they come, one at a time, to slowly make feminism and feminist websites lose your woman's respect and readership.
Luckily the wage gap is one of the easiest and least emotionally charged myths to tackle.
Gabriel Stewart
i stopped at >pro-feminism
pump and dump dump her ass asap
Austin Bennett
"you know the first gun regulations were written to disarm ^^^innocent refugees from the american south^^^^^
it can be adapted to anything really.
Honestly don't know what french women are vulnerable to, but every french girl I have met has seemed to find arrogance appealing. Perhaps its best to be arrogant about his beliefs and not specifically defend them? More deride the notion of expecting him to in the first place?
Luis Jones
also it depends on how opinionated she is with these things... if she's one of those activist type people your life is gonna be miserable no matter how qt u think she is
if her political views are on the backburner than maybe you could get her to think your way but as a rule i stay away from feminist slime because they will ruin your existence and demand too much and contribute nothing.
>pro-islam Bet with her: is the next terrorist attack a muslim, a buddhist, a christian or a jainist? Win.
>pro-lgbt I am pro as well so meh, whatever, fags will be fags.
>Anti-brexit She's french, turn her back to the enlightenment and stuff like freedom of speech, freedom of religion and how thatm eant at first that the state basically didn't persecute you but now people want special treatment.
>anti-gun it's not the same mentality. I want to be able to protect myself but I guess some don't. Don't know that one.
Owen Lewis
heh. thats pretty good though ive already used that and her response was "studies show that having a gun in the house makes it 9000% more likely someone will be shot"
Daniel Ward
I can testify that arrogant undertones are very charming to French girls, but only if you and her agree on the subject being discussed.
You know, being condescending towards X group of [BUZZWORD] and sharing the arrogant throne of indignation and moral superiority.
Samuel Hernandez
dress up like a black guy and rob her
Josiah Diaz
sounds like you've already let her assert control of your relationship
You are already the follower and she is the leader. Leave now or be cucked forver. Do not reward feminists Pump and dump or prepare to be her husband while she sleeps with other men and makes you take care of their children.
Eli Collins
"And that someone will be whoever will threaten our safety. Come here..."
Matthew Gomez
Then project dissent against your opinions onto a group that she already finds distasteful and 'unwittingly' put her expected words in their mouths.
If she doesn't know you are doing it she will question whether her opinions make her unattractive, as the people that these thoughts are projected on objectively are (in her mind).
Cameron Young
i am not cucked and i never will be.
Lucas Nguyen
just dump her trust the frenchfags here, she's beyong saving. you're wasting your time, and probably your money.
Jonathan Mitchell
You hit the jackpot when you said "not sure if her opinion will make her unattractive".
Women are trend followers and play it safe to make sure other women don't beat her in the relationship market. Being normal (while pretending your "not like the other girls" of course) is the safest way to a provider and protector.
That's not in your hand to decide, unless you do like said and save yourself time, money and stress.
Can't be cucked if you ain't with her, that's a guarantee.
But there's plenty of good advice in the thread already, you should be able to manage it. For now.
Adam Stewart
I cant.
Im not going to call her and say "Bonjour mon amour, i have decided to dump after consulting my associates at the Tibetan Goat milk forum.
Logan Phillips
be like her
Landon Robinson
And yes, you absolutely can. You don't want to? Understandable. But you can. Keep that in mind.
Jason Bennett
Cut your losses, when emotion comes into play you will make the wrong decision every time and she'll be laughing all the way to the bank.
Zachary Morris
the fact that you're willing to date a feminist says different you poor cucked thing you
Camden Perry
I wouldn't dump her, I work on it first then go from there, no one is perfect when you first meet them.
Christopher Smith
I mean technically, yeah i could dump her but i want to weigh all my other options first. Im not about to just quit.
Aaron Kelly
Yes of course, but OP gotta remember that he could dump her at any time. Women that know that men who don't want to dump them are easy target for abuse, manipulation and general cuckery.
If OP acts in a confident, loving yet ready to dump her manner, she'll fucking submit really naturally to him.
Ryder Flores
Here's the thing, she accepts he is pro-gun and the more invested in the relationship she is with OP, the better it is for him.
Once in America, she'll probably see the other side of the spectrum (hopefully).
Isaac Lopez
here youll need this later
Ian White
Don't do it all at once. I would genuinely recommend you check out some Persuasion/ Hypnosis books to learn how to gradually convince someone to alter their own opinion.
You can plant seeds that they end up watering themselves if you do it right.
Benjamin Phillips
I remain unconvinced though. Two years in a relationship yet so little progress... she probably has taken OP for granted by now.
It's not impossible to reverse the situation, but i don't expect to teach old dogs new tricks.
Nicholas Rogers
Long Distance, they don't go out with each other, they can't show each other affection.