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What in the fuck happened

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They learnt their place.

The RELIGION OF PEACE happened

Your friendly religion of pieces.
>islam not even once.

Blame the Soviets, probably.

Jimmy Carter.

Radicalization and subversion from our good old (((Ally)))

Iran: Islamic revolution in 1979.

Afghanistan: Taliban takeover in the '80s.

Inbreeding. Average IQ reduction if 10-20

Soviets.

Mudshits gonna mudshit.

Also probably USA being niggers and pooing in their sandpit

>What in the fuck happened

Saudi Arabia happened.
Wahhabism comes from Saudi Arabia and spreads like a cancer through all muslim countries.

in a very simplified version what actually happned is the west and russia started fucking with these countries proping up and removing various factions/dictators eventually militant extremist islamists got into power and fucked everythang up.

anybody who says otherwise is in denial

Islam.

Cold war proxy war, subsequent neglection by anyone esp. the US and a neighbour going full Islam happened.

iran then: western puppet monarchy
iran now: anti-western islamic theocracy

afghanisan then: independent monarchy
afghanistan now: warzone without a government

afghanistan took a loot of abuse. soviet-backed communist coup, followed by american-backed anti-communist uprising, followed by full-scale soviet invasion, which started a long soviet-afghan war that left the country in shambles and millions of afghans dead.
then after the soviets left the taliban took over and went full islam. when they supported 9/11 the americans stepped in and removed them from power, but the country is just too much of a fucked up wasteland to recover at this point.

AMERICA HAPPENED

THIS
>Iran: Islamic revolution in 1979.
>Afghanistan: Taliban takeover in the '80s.

both orchestrated by the (((USA)))

or - done with American money, sweat and blood.

USA doesn't likes freedom and likes to kill peaceful people. Historically Afghanistan was always under attack by somebody, when they are not they tend to be kind of normal. Afghanistan is full of minerals Christian Jew always wanted.

Feminism. They made a choice.

>Iran
>Wahhabism

Wat

you are a retarded moron if you think saudi wahhabism had any influence at all on the situation in iran

Socialism witch inevitably failed and lead to the rise of religious fundamentalism.

I was going to say Islam but this this is better

>Implying Afghanistan wasn't a tribal shithole by showing the social/political elites in a major population center protected by the Russians

The Cold War happened.

Islam has existed for 1500 years. You're expecting me to believe it took that long to change those countries? It's obviously the fault of foreign interventionism in those countries and has very little to do with the religion itself.

Implying the USA is more to blame than USSR for Afghan shittiness.

Though regarding the situation in the OP image, neither are to blame. Just Islam.

Were these countries significantly whiter in the past?

iran got their own islamism.

But Afghanistan, Syria, Iraq, Egypt.... they are spreading.
NY Times was reporting recently about how saudis are now controlling a majority of mosques in fucking kosovo and as a result kosovo has the highest per capita ISIS members in europe.

>It's obviously the fault of foreign interventionism in those countries and has very little to do with the religion itself.

Wahhabism is 200 years old.
Saudi Arabia is rich enough to have influence for ~50 years.
Exactly the point when islamists started growing.

>implying
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_wars_involving_Afghanistan
It started way in 1800ies and since then war. Note that Afghanistan was Muslim 1000 years before that.

Afghanistan democratically elected a socialist, became backed by the USSR. Wahabbist muslims (who came from Britain supporting wahabbism so that they could create Saudi Arabia, yep we created Saudi Arabia) didn't like secularism, western morals, or collectivization so they revolted. The US was scared shitless by socialism and the USSR so they funded these muslims, who became the Mujahideen: Jihadists, holy warriors. The USSR in response sent their armies to protect the Afghanistan from a US backed Jihad. They lost. The Afghan government fell, the Mujahideen became the Taliban, and it all went down from there.

Thanks US!


Don't know about Iran but its a similar story. Same with Saudi Arabia

This is good. I'm about to find me an Iranian bride anyway on the internet.
I like my women submissive.

Yes I'm sure the USA deposing secular leaders in the Middle East to promote aggresive anti-Soviets had absolutely nothing to do with it.

You're just as bad as SJWs. You're letting identity politics get in the way of rational thought.

American/Russian intervention

>There are people on Sup Forums seriously unaware of the part British and USA played in destroying these countries

America happened.

Afghanistan - Fund islamists against less desirables
Iran - Fund islamists against less desirables
Libya - Fund islamists against less desirables
Syria - Fund islamists against less desirables

Spot on

Yeah if the USA let Afghanistan be controlled by the USSR it would be a gr8 place no doubt.

Did you start following world politics 5 minutes ago, you faggot?

Those countries started going downhill the moment they adopted Islam. this is basic knowledge. This board is 18+ you need to go.

Islam existed in Afghanistan long before that, but only since 1800ies you had wars and later came those terrorist Muslims. What is USA doing today if not training terrorists? Those terrorists don't even attack Israel. If you want a war you need something to start it. Afghanistan/Iraq will be ok once rebuild with American ownership, but question is for how long. This American ownership is all about control and exploitation of natural resources, a military outpost.

Came here to write this, at least someone knows. But it wasn't only the US who are responsible for this, it was the UN who financed those Mujaheddin.
Also, according to Russia, they didn't even try to enforce Socialism on Afghanistan and instead just tried to keep their borders safe from Islamist extremists which is understandable. But well, they probably would have enforced Socialism anyways.

Heads of states became bad goyim and pulled away from the American leash, so the Americans funded the craziest baddest zealots to fight for them and to hell with the native people.

Irrelevant

The fact remains we funded islamic terrorists because it suited our needs. And as usual this bit the American people back in the ass.

You're making it sound like Afghanistan would be a secular state today if the USSR and USA didn't ever intervene.

IIRC the only reason the USSR went in to begin with was because their communist influence was waning because the growing Islamic population was rejecting communism was it wasn't aligned with Islam.

we funded fundamentalists to insure the countries didnt fall to communism. clearly the answer is to fund communist uprisings to get rid of the fundamentalists.

it got better

It isn't irrelevant because the situation in the OP image is comparing westernized Afghanistan to a Sharia controlled one and that process began prior to any USSR or USA intervention.

You can argue the proxy war made the country shittier and maybe a regime not as awful as the Taliban would have controlled it, but I don't think the country would have reversed its course and suddenly embraced western values,

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>Don't know about Iran but its a similar story. Same with Saudi Arabia

where do you morons get your history lessons? local antifa propaganda?

i'll give you the basics
Iran:
>monarchy, ruled by the shah (king)
>a dude named mosaddegh becomes prime minister
>mosaddegh wants to take over british oil refinieries and, britain doesn't want that
>britain and USA basically coup mosaddegh out of power, restoring the shah to power
>for the next 20 years pretty much nothing happens
>then, the islamic revolution (led by ayatollah ruhollah khomeini) turns islam into a radical shia theocracy
>new islamic republic hates literally everything (hates USA and the west, hates USSR and the east, hates israel, hates sunnis - especially saudi arabia)

saudis:
all the way back in the times of world war 1, arabia was ruled by the turks. the turks fucked off after they lost ww1. a dude named abdulaziz ibn saud - with help from a sunni fundamentalist movement - took over much of the arabian peninsula, including mekka and medina as well as his family's home cidy riyadh. this man founded the modern saudi state. ever since that time, his family has ruled the country as an absolute monarchy. all saudi kings have been sons of ibn saud, most government positions are in the hands of saudi family members.

Just like America funds 'Nazis' in Ukraine to fight the Russian separatists. They have no qualms with using fanatics as a proxy.

Why are you in Japan? To stir up shit against Japanese, fill them with migrants and to make them enemies of North Korea.

>Thanks US
More like thanks Islam for being cancer

You got me.

How come they look like different people? Ignore the clothes, hair and makeup, the earlier are better looking women, the later ones are all ugly.

>thinks there are sides
Go home baby. Terrorist groups are created to stir up shit and to cause a war so that western humanitarian organizations can come and conquer it with love. USA trained those bible retards of Yugoslavia who wanted war and into EU. Look at them now, USA doesn't cares about Serbia. Their pathetic Christian democratic parties are sucking Ahmed and liking it.

>You can argue the proxy war made the country shittier and maybe a regime not as awful as the Taliban would have controlled it

But that is the main point. As a result of American actions, Afghanistan and many countries are a lot shittier. In fact, we could easily say USSR rule would be preferable since Afghanistan would have had 35 years to get back in its feet, as opposed to still snackbaring and blowing up to this day.

Communist: Afghanistan 1967 Iran 1970
Capitalism: Afghanistan 2011 Iran 2012

except that the Taliban was a Pakistani movement supported by the ISI and used by Pakistan to create a puppet state in Afghanistan. The Afghan Mujahadeen would also go on to form the Northern Alliance...

The US had little to do with foreign fighters, the bulk of the funding to them came from the Gulf States and Pakistan.

False, the right pictures are the result of Soviet occupation and mudslimes getting butthurt that there culture is shit

Having served in that region this is the culture brief given to me:

During the end of the colonial period as long as local leadethekept raw matierials flowing the western ruling class were very hands off, allowing the locals to be ruled by locals and advance at thier own pace along the paths of thier own choosing.

Then post colonialism happened and a power vaccume was created, the religious right began making violent plays for power, and even though "colonialism" was seen as politically incorrect by the west, it never really stopped.

Russia and Nato began collectivly pumping money and weapons into proxy forces trying to gain a monopoly in the control of resource exports.

There were several violent communist movements sparked by russia, which tended to favor secularism, and a religion free government as dictated by the basic tennants of communism.

Naturally, NATO (the USA) backed whoever opposed them, which just so happened to be the religious and highly secular right.

Both sides spent decades tossing gasoline onto the fire, creating incredibly bloody and pointless conflicts (iran/iraq war which was as big as the 1st world war in terms of casualties, russian invasion of afghanistan etc etc.)

So communism fell, and the middle east was left as a war torn devastated backwater irrelevant except for the fact that they posess oil.

The formerly US supported secular groups siezed power, and promptly deflected blame for atrcities towards outside meddling and engendered a culture of religious zealotry revolving around xenophobia. Middle eastern people do not see a difference between the "decadent and immoral US, and the athiest heathen infidels."

Having been betrayed by the outside world, they reverted to a resurgence of pre colonial tribal and hyper religious ideals.

>US didn't fund Mujahideen

The US had a whole operation by the CIA dedicated to funding and arming Jihadists to take down Afghanistan.

en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Cyclone

Afghanistan is old project, lets look some new American projects like Ukraine. Stir up shit, create chaos, all of sudden prices a low and you can order 3 brides for price of 1. Nobody cares anymore, oligarchs satisfied. But where does the oligarch money come from to begin with? One part was stolen during Soviet split, of course founded by foreigners too to buy land, other part by foreigner money to buy even more land. At end of it all is clay control. There are also other options like EU, but at end of it all is clay control.

Islam + USA + Britain + (((Chosen People))) happened. Don't believe people who say the shah was a puppet, they are either shills or wikipedia (((scholars))).

youtube.com/watch?v=6kySR3fpa5s

Give me back my King and monarchy and I will go back to Iran tomorrow. I wish I was alive back then so I could kill muslims/communists during the (((revolution))).

They threw off the shackles of foreign occupation and exploitation by the hands of European devils

Thank you.

Muh islamistis
The U.K is the main funder of the muslim brother hood
And then you blame us

Wahabbism spread by Saudi Arabia

Saudi Arabia created by Britain because it makes them richer. Britain is the reason Wahabbidism has spread. Beforehand it was a fringe religion

>And then you blame us
yes.

Get your shit together.

This, basically the people got caught in the middle of post colonial power struggles, then later, cold war proxy conflicts between russia and the US.

They spent almost a century as pawns of the world super powers and got fucked so hard it triggered a cultural reboot.


They reverted back to traditional social roles, which were unfortunatley outdated around the time of the early renaissance period.

It would be like if we spent a decade under islamic rule, finally broke free, and went back to doing our own thing, except it had been so long since we actually had done our own thing that our only position to revert back to while maintaining cultural originality was "hanging teenage girls in salem for witchcraft and beheading petty thieves in the town square with guillotines."

*meant century, not decade

>iran/iraq war which was as big as the 1st world war in terms of casualties
what?

Jews and the CIA funded a lot of radicals for a long period

Yes and after WWII the Saudis signed a deal with president Truman, which was the starting point of their philosophical conquest of islam

But what was the alternative for not creating Saudi Arabia?

Religious people are only useful tools. During Socialism in Yugoslavia, Soviet Union, China, Myanmar, Vietnam, etc... they cried on the orders of foreign influences how they can't form Christian political parties. Now that they have those Christian Democratic political parties, now they import Muslims into Europe and propagate interracial. Christians in China are the only ones who propagate interracial, those provinces are also where you also find most westerners. Merkel literally Christian Democratic Union, president of Germany literally pastor, they love Muslim penis or African penis, whatever, they don't have that nationalistic talk any long as during Socialism, now we see them what they truly are, a racemixing capitalistic puppet political parties. This left/right that exists today is more or less all shit, all following orders, all they do is for profit, not people, but exactly those will cry the most about humanity.

Blame Saudi Arabia and the US who allied with them and gave them tons of weapons.

When we do all the western media attacks us for killing them and shit happens in country
What must we do?
Suck their cocks like swedes?
We can not do shit if the west keep sticking its ass in everything here

I always view society like a rubber band
For example in Weimar republic you get rampant degeneracy in all forms and it was on track to become a Soviet satellite. They pulled so hard to the left and it snaps back after a point and you get the Third Reich. Same thing with most mena countries. Sure there were many in the bourgeois class who enjoyed pretending to be western, but societal norms kept pulling further and further from what traditional Islamic laws and roles (not wahabi-tier, but still conservative), and then it snaps back and we have what is there now. It's a dumb little way of thinking of things I suppose, but it seems to be sort of accurate. The secret is to find a happy medium in my opinion

>What must we do?

join the civilized world.
Arab world is switching between brutal secular dictators like Sisi and Assad and on the other side wahhabi sunni islamism.

As long as you dont fix this shit you will be a shithole.

Lol you replay my questions with questions
we can not fix shit if the west keeps fucking up shit here

This is what it looks like when the US bring "freedom" and "democracy" to other countries.

The Ottoman controlled area could have dissipated on its own and the Ottoman citizens of the region could have established their own country instead of having British backed Saudi family take control

>What in the fuck happened
Islam turns back the clock to the middle ages.
It's the only culture facing backward, not forward.

The quest for world democracy was so noble and progressive

Really, so how is your country doing all these years after you started WW2 and the world liberated your ass?

I'll tell you
Someone took two pictures from students in some Oriental shithole and sticked them before two pictures of low class ninja turtles.
The Guy wrote coherent dates under these pictures, and now hundreds of virgins faggots are falling for a meme.

I'm not even leftist for fuck's saké.

>"program to arm and finance the Afghan mujahideen prior to and during the Soviet war in Afghanistan"

literally the first sentence
I said they had little to do with foreign fighters.

The Arab fighters generally used their own sources of funding (ie gulf states + rich benefactors back home).

Mercenaries don't care where money comes from, they have no goal. For troops Muhammad is an excuse, just like Jesus. If those Muslim patriots cared so much, then why do they come to EU? Mercenaries are only interested in exploitation, all their speeches about glory of Allah and whatnot, that's empty talk. Those geniuses from Africa that come to EU, why aren't they genius in Africa? They aren't genius no matter if 300 IQ or 400 IQ, they are stupid shit like Jews who exploit world. Without their precious money benefits they can't do shit but rape. That's true for Muslim, Christian and Jewish armies.

Saudi Arabia happened.

This is the same in almost every Muslim country. I remember my mom used to tell me nobody had hijab when she was a little girl and women wore swim suit at the beach. You were frowned upon if you chose to cover your hair. Drinking was also normal back then.

Far left and far right extremism is just using the set of atrocities to enforce different morals.

Please look up the golden age of Islam and how it effected every country around the middle east.

All we did was remind them what kind of animals they really are and tried to direct it at the Soviets.

get out molyjew

why are persians so much better than the rest of the middle east?
we have some persians in germany, they all arrived here in the 80s when they fled the islamic revolution. without exception, all the persians here are decent people who integrate pretty much perfectly.
how can persians be so good when all the peoples around them (arabs, pakis) are pure shit? is it something about the whole shia/sunni divide?

America happened

Basically this.
I like the logic of this anons.

Religious people in politics is never a good idea, no matter what religion or political party. Religious politicians are retards, they can finish schools, they can prove they are important, but they are mentally ill. More a Muslim learns about science and then can't even connect science to religion to determine its flaws, more retarded they get into thinking they are smart.

Islam was becoming moderate and then 'muricans sticked their dick in a hornets nest of conflict between Sunni and Shia and now we're here.

So many people here that hate islam, even though their imperialist country is responsible for this backwardness. Hell their country is still bombing the middle east but it's all Islam's fault!

Here's some points about the war criminal past of the USA

>funded the holy warriors to take down democratically elected Afghanistan
>overthrown multiple democracies and propped up far right dictatorships in their place
>started a worldwide secret human experimentation program called MKULTRA, which created the terrorist known as the Unabomber
>drew up a plan to attack one of their own cities and frame it as a Cuban terrorist attack so we could go to war
>funded the European mafia to kill communist sympathizers that ran naval docks after World War 2
>used illegal chemical weapons in Vietnam which led to hundreds of thousands of birth defects in innocent people
>lied about WMD's to invade Iraq

But somehow the US is the good guy in all of this, it was NEVER the US's fault. Nope, wahabbism just rose out of nowhere, definitely not because the west spread it like a girus for their own interests or anything. Yep the middle east put this all on themselves, fucking savages why can't they be civilized like us while we keep bombing them?

different genetics. k selected vs r selected. more likely to be able to think long term and prosper. if you study history you can see that Iranic peoples have always been the masters of the Middle East. Look at what the Arabs said of the Persians when they conquered them. Look at the "Islamic" Golden Age, it was basically an Iranian renaissance. All the standout minds were of Iranic origin. The cream rises to the top.