I didn't get it...What was the message of this movie?

I didn't get it...What was the message of this movie?

It's a character study. It doesn't have an explicit message.

other than fire safety is important

havent seen it, but am avoiding to, cause im pretty sure its gonna be depressing as fuck

Don't trust niggers or women. They will destroy your life. That scene where the nigger sets his house on fire and runs away was almost too much for me to handle.

Put the grate on the fireplace if you're going to leave it unattended and lit.

It wasn't that depressing. In the end it kind of works out for everyone

why do plebs think that every movie without action scenes needs a "meaning" or "message"

Except for his kids.

>He thinks he has delved into cinéma after watching indie drama no.243

He can't beat it.

Nah it's depressing and a sort of beautifully tragic ending, but that's what made it great.

Fuck i forgot about them. Maybe they died peacefully in their sleep from asphyxiation

Did his wife really want him back?

The first shot featuring the children pictures was great, really made the frames have a big presence

Take the safety off and cock the gun when you steal a gun to shoot yourself.

LET
IT
GO :'(

No, she wanted him to know she didn't blame him anymore and wanted to be able to talk to him without breaking his heart with the memories of what happened and what she said to him in the aftermath.

Parents should behave responsibly or tragedy may strike

While her actions were understandable and fully justified i still felt she was kind of a bitch.
She rubbed it in his face that she had moved on

this movie was no better than boyhood

derp de derp de derp deppressing sad derp

wow so profound sad just like me 10/10

being depressing and sad is so fucking easy and so fucking played out, and so is forgetting about having a plot so that we can wallow in the main characters boring banal struggle.

boo hoo fuck off casey affleck and your oscar bait bullshit

There is none and it was boring as fuck. Literally the only idiots who like this movie are teens who feel like they can relate because they too are sad sometimes and believe there somehow is a profoundness to it. It's all the plebs are talking about in the threads
>wow this left me depressed man
>that scene where he tries to shoot himself i cry every time

Nothing about this movie is interesting in the slightest. The main character is a dick who provokes fights because he is le sad. He has no distinct character traits beyond that. He is pretty much just a normal pleb dealing with a depressing event in a completely normal way. Literally nothing else happens.

Am I being profound yet?: The movie. Certified fresh for sub 90 iq edgy teens.

what a strange confluence

That's not how I saw it, "bitch" implies ill intent. She genuinely wanted to apologise and patch things up, and they'd been out of contact for years, it was her first opportunity to do so. He just wasn't ready, she didn't know that. She even called and asked permission before coming to his brother's funeral.

Boyhood wasn't depressing, it was just bad.

This board should really stick to just talking about capeshit. Literally every movie goes over your heads.

Someone post the screencap i need it and i already deleted the film from my kino station

Redemption is possible, one mistake doesn't define you, don't write off the people trying to help you. Take your pick.

Did everyone forget that the selfish cunt of a mother caused it all to happen due to being sick and not wanting to be uncomfortable?

>wahhhh I knew you were gonna party but I wanna be a cunt now for no reason!
>wahh I'm gonna go back to sleep even though I know you're fucked up
>waaahhh I'm a whore that got knocked up by a guy who is a bad father
>waaaah wanna be friends fuck your feelings I said I'm sorry for being a cunt!
>I started a new life while you were wallow in misery alone but consider my feelings and desires!

The scene at the police station he describes how it was fucking freezing upstairs where the kids were even though the wife simply went back to bed. She was a shit mother and a shit person.

>look im being different mom!

You have a very fair point. His character was so boring and the way he dealt with the situation was boring too (unsurprisingly).

>get drunk and still want to feed your kids while your wife sleeps
>take a walk to store because drunk driving is dangerous
>your house accidentally burns and people blame you for an accident

it was a great critique of white men society and how they drive a man to his suicide.

don't forget only person that treated Lee decent in the movie was the black woman who fell in love with him. all whiteys were jerks in dat movie.

She revealed her colors by her reaction towards his friends.

>partying with your mates, drinking beer and snorting coke in the house til 2am while your wife is sick and trying to sleep in the next room, and while your children are asleep upstairs
>she's somehow a cunt for telling you to knock it off

Neither of them were very good parents, that's why their daughters died. But he lit the fire while high as fuck and left it unattended while he went out for more beer. She didn't "cause it all to happen" any more than he did.

>don't forget only person that treated Lee decent in the movie was the black woman
I know your post is low tier race bait but she took the piss out of him, subtly, behind his back, just because hes a janitor, that's barely treating him decent

He had good intentions throughout. She was a cunt that got a pass due to "muh babies" while the father gets shit on and spirals downward all along because she abandoned him and blamed him completely while talking shit to him. Fuck you.

This The kids were an excuse. She was bitchy and wanted everyone else to stop having fun because she was sick and deserved 100% attention and care

He lit the fire. He was high and drunk. He left the fire unattended.

Meanwhile, she was sick and asleep.

Of course she fucking blamed him, he was directly responsible, he blamed himself, that's why he tried to blow his own brains out. It took them both years to come to terms with the fact that it was a momentary lapse of judgement that ended in accidental tragedy. That's how grief works. You're a fucking retard.

Raising your dead brother's son is okay but only if you argue with him.

If you know anything about drugs you would know that the cocaine would override the other shit and he would be more alert if anything. The fire was only necessary because the wife refused to let him use the central heat. So before the kids burned to death they were freezing because the mom is a cunt.

Life's a garden. Dig it.

I watched some random europan film on tv today and the main story was completely same with this kek

I've been drunk and high on coke simultaneously plenty of times you presumptuous little twat. He specifically describes to the police that he's coming down and can't sleep, it leaves you scatterbrained and does not lead to wise decision making.

Yes, his wife was being needy and his girls were cold, that's why it's tragic, as in the literal description: the whole event was an inevitable culmination of character flaws and circumstance. But he was the one who fucked up at the crucial moment, and was undeniably responsible for the fire.

Of course he's the most sympathetic character, he's the fucking protagonist, but you're being completely over the top in accusing his wife of being a "selfish cunt" based on a 24-hour snapshot of their relationship during which she was ill.

This movie made me smile in some moments more than any comedy I have seen in the last few years.

Perfectly executed situational dark humor and /cringekino/ between all the heavy drama.

Forgot to say, it was much better also less than thousand voters on imdb.
Not gonna tell anyway.

Whatever it is, I doubt it had better framing and composition/editing/blocking

You bitter virgins are absolutely ridiculous with how you "understand" films.

This.

Sometimes you can fuck up past the point of redemption.

Everyone was raving about this scene, and it is quite good, but what really got to me was that dreaming sequence where the daughters look at Lee and ask him in the most innocent way "Can't you see we're burning?"

Fucked me up pretty good.

Say no to alcohol.

>thinking that every movie is made to send out a singular universal message
What a first class supreme pleb you are.

Movies aren't puzzles which you have to put together in a certain kind of way to "get" them

>"Can't you see we're burning?"

goddamn that was heavy

this

waah cant you see weew buwning

tearjerker trash, was that supposed to be sad?

Tell me just one argument of why is it a bad movie.
A bunch of hurr durrs are not arguments. Boring is not an argument. Tell me how is it bad, how could it be better executed.

I didn't say it was bad

The family friend who worked at the docks (Joe?) was the hero of this film.

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>that fucking cunt that says she doesn't want to see his face in her store again

Fucking film made me so pissed at times. Great stuff.

I really loved how the town felt like a character. Various characters from like the hockey coach and the chick working at the docks make small comments about how they perceive Lee. It's not much, but by the end you have a real feeling of how the town feels about Lee, and how his brother was a pretty respected man in their eyes.

Not a single argument. As I said, "boring" is not an argument.
He didn't even discuss the movie but the people who he thinks enjoyed said movie.
Tell me how specifically what was bad, what could've been done better in the writing, acting, editing, framing and composition, blocking, line deliveries anything?
For me the only flaw was the use of soundtrack in certain scenes which would be far more effective without it. And that's about it, everything else was executed perfectly.

Seems to me that you hate the people who enjoyed the movie more than the movie itself.

You should read the post again. The criticism is that nothing really happens in the movie, besides his kids dying. So we have a 2h20min movie about a completely uninteresting trivial guy going about his daily life being depressed. The general idea of the movie isn't horrible per se, but the execution is. Nothing about this movie is intriguing or entertaining, it's tedious and trivial.

wtf are you talking about? she didn't rub it in his face. she was trying to apologize for blaming him for the death of their children and she even tried to reconnect with him by inviting him to lunch with her.

just because she was somehow able to move on and decide to start a family again doesn't mean she was "rubbing it in his face."

>be kind of person who makes mistakes
>don't think your mistakes will have consequences
>consequences come harder than they ever do for most people
>lose wife and kids
>hate yourself
>want to die
>after first attempt you lose the will to even try to kill yourself
>become walking shell of a human
>brother continually never gives up on you, still loves you
>he dies
>become continually aware of the need for you to reach out and love his son the way your brother loved you
>this love is now a purpose for living
>but it doesn't erase the past

>She rubbed it in his face that she had moved on
that is the exact fucking opposite of what happened

dont project when you watch movies

>The criticism is that nothing really happens in the movie
something happens in every scene though

Almost any movie is better than boyhood. This movie was better, but that's not saying much. This film had so much raw potential but as many movies do, it ended cowardly. It was a bullshit ending, it didn't fit at all.

The only good thing about boyhood was the alcoholic step dad. He was pretty solid.

Would you plunge her shit?

>This film had so much raw potential but as many movies do, it ended cowardly. It was a bullshit ending, it didn't fit at all.
Manchester by the Sea you mean?

how the fuck should it have ended?

I wonder what would you say if you watched a Tarkovsky or Bela Tarr film.

He assaulted random strangers twice for looking at him the wrong way, there's no telling what he did while employed there.

Yeah, his past is tragic, but you can't ask others to pay for it for the rest of his life.

I saw the phrase ``denial of catharsis'' in a review. I feel that the film is cathartic because I suffer from crippling depression.

it's pretty fuckin sad but it's also pretty fuckin excellent

The ending is kind of uplifting actually

This. It was like a gritty bleak pessimistic Malick.

Opposite in tone, but equally naive and pretentious.

Obviously "something" always happens in a scene, but the plot was moving incredibly slowly. And the stuff that did happen was completely trivial.

The kid was the most generic teen ever (literally no interesting characters in this movie) and the attempt at humor like the scene where he stepped on some legos was cringey as fuck, and like with everything else in this movie devoid of any creativity.

Nothing interesting happens to the main character after his kids die. People hate him (shocker). He hates himself (shocker). He doesn't deal with it in any particular way that is interesting, he is just depressed and angry.

This movie has no depth at all, neither in the storyline or the characters. It's a melodrama, and the 5 min long scene with blaring sad classical music is a great example of it.

>pretentious

got any other baitwords

Honestly man, I'm not American, I love European humanistic arthouse cinema that talks about this kind of shit, but this is not the right way. It was embarrassingly unaware of its self-seriousness. The author just comes a cross as a bourgeois condescending prick with his excessive pity for the characters.

What movie is this? Manchester by the Sea? I watched it and don't remember any of the things you guys are talking about, but I was drunk as fuck as well

what screencap?