One of the very few times I'll make a serious post on Sup Forums, since 99% of the time i'm baitposting rabidly, but here goes;
Does anyone find it deeply lamentable (and rather shameful on the part of the wealthy west) that most of the world is a shitpit of human and economic underdevelopment? It's enjoyable to casually dismiss every non-western poster as being a forgettable less-than, but this is something I assume we do only for it's provocative power and not as an expression of sincerest feelings about them. It really is tragic that apart from North America, the only countries that are more than just decently livable are in Northern & Northwestern Europe, Central Europe, Japan and ANZACland. In virtually every other country, a good QOL comparable to the typical first worlder experience is something enjoyed by a clear minority of citizens, consigning all others to a life of limited social access, persistent resource insecurity, and danger.
With all the wealth, influence, and outright hard power concentrated in our hands as westerners, what should our share of responsibility be ensuring that the rising tide of 21st century prosperity truly does lift every country, instead of widening the economic gulf between us and the rest of the world? Even on smaller regional scales, you'll still witness stark disparities such as that between US-CAN and Central America, and the sobering difference in living standards between Western and Eastern Europe. This doesn't bode well for future stability and behooves us all to play a more conscious role in not only our national well being, but also that of worse off countries.
I'm no deranged SJW, but I see this as one highly urgent humanitarian mission. It would be lovely to live in a world where the average global citizen can enjoy a lifestyle that has hitherto been the reserve of North America and Western Europe.
we'll run out of oil eventually and then we'll all be in deep shit, so it doesn't matter if we lift up other countries since we will all be equal at some point anyway.
Ian Cooper
It's OK, illiteracy is pressing issue within the Arab communities.
But why? Aagin, i'm not trying to impose a "White Man's Burden" on you, but wouldn't you find the world comfier if this were a reality?
Hunter Walker
>It would be lovely to live in a world where the average global citizen can enjoy a lifestyle that has hitherto been the reserve of North America and Western Europe. Believe it or not there are Luddites out there who don't want to be corrupted by technological laziness.
Robert Brooks
Nah, who cares. It's not your responsibility, it's none of your business and you may only make things worse. Better make america great again or something.
Landon Jenkins
That is a preference, but the goal is to make it accessible to them, not to foist it upon them.
James White
>It's not your responsibility, it's none of your business This is not a good attitude to maintain towards the rest of the globe. Granted, it seems to be the American way of regarding everyone else, but it's simply unhealthy.
Carter James
Why? It was not you who made other countries poor, so it's not your moral duty to make them better
Hunter Ross
I understand, but seeing that we are best poised to help. We could AT THE VERY LEAST, gear up for it and offer generous assistance.
>It was not you who made other countries poor Yevgeny, the west has played something of a central role in the politics the last 150 years, and this hasn't ended well for a lot of countries. Let us not be dishonest.
Henry Robinson
"The west" doesn't even exist and the last 150 years it made more harm to each other than to other shitholes. Like world wars and other shit.
Jose Morgan
>"The west" doesn't even exist and the last 150 years it made more harm to each other than to other shitholes
Now you're just baiting me
Jaxon Johnson
they live like shit so i can live well, dont feel bad one bit, 150 years ago my ancestors were in their shoes
Logan Clark
>150 years ago my ancestors were in their shoes all of ours were.
Carson Stewart
no
Liam Jenkins
It's like you think the world is somehow united.
When east and west Germany reunified, East was much poorer and so, the west financially helped them until today, but they only did it because it was Germans helping other Germans, a part of Germany helping another part.
Why would we help third worlder (in fact we already do) when they sure as hell wouldn't do it for us and might turn back on it the day they reach our level (which they will).
If the world was united like Germany,I think what you describe would happen naturally, but it's not the case and it probably never will
Austin Brown
it will happen in future when travelling huge distances will be very easy and efficient, China or somebody else will genocide entire world and repopulate it with their own
Owen Taylor
>lifestyle of North America and Western Europe
Christopher Smith
>Why would we help third worlder (in fact we already do) when they sure as hell wouldn't do it for us and might turn back on it the day they reach our level (which they will).
How sure are you of this?
Though in your defense, Much of south eastern Europe, for example. is a pure shitfest that Western Europe more or less ignores, so I see what you're saying.
Also, a united world is undeniably, a noble goal, even if lofty and unrealistic.
Tyler Stewart
I don't know how it is in Russia, but in Germany if you see someone lying heavily injured in the street, you legally have to help them or risk going to jail, even if you had nothing to do with them getting injured. What OP is talking about sounds similar, but on a global scale.
Angel James
In a more equal setting europe would end up being peripheral (about south Americas level more or less)
Jayden Brooks
what are electric vehicles
Grayson Peterson
so basically lets help one another, but what if the poor countries aren't even asking for help, assistance or aid, maybe they are good as they are, adapting to their surroundings.
Carter Taylor
?
Charles Roberts
OP is talking about how bad he feels about the west living way better than the rest of the world, but he doesn't even bother to discuss whether or not they even need "development", the term "development" is only realistic in the west. To the poor countries it doesn't mean anything, it doesn't exist.
Liam Bell
>maybe they are good as they are Their life expectancy, crime rates, poverty rates, disease prevalence, and a host of many other human wellness metrics suggest otherwise.
Xavier White
But they do have development and the desire it
Carter Ramirez
Well if that's the case then what they need is an authoritarian regime, maybe you Americans could ask Russians to do it, Russia would forcefully annex poor countries and build libraries, schools and such infrastructure for them, teach them the Russian and English language, culture and other good stuff, and the poor countries would learn how to live as decent human beings. i think this is a great solution, even tho we're living in 21st century, poor countries need to experience these things to learn.
Bentley Rodriguez
I only bothered to read the first few lines but the answer is 'no'
It's their own fault for being weak and stupid, Britain won her wealth fair and square
Jordan Perry
Not everything is an attack on Britain user
That shit doesn't work.
Owen Harris
Says a Canadian, you should have seen how the Russians do it, post soviet countries these days feel very triggered, yet smart, now it's time for the other poor countries that are behind from the 1st world to learn.
Michael Baker
He's talking about colonialism and we were the biggest and best at it
Cameron Smith
>I only bothered to read the first few lines but the answer is 'no'
At least you can read.
Asher Allen
He never talked about it.
Lincoln Lee
stop trying to act like you got it all figured out you tryhard.
James Garcia
nice post man, it was nice reading it all
Juan Peterson
>Does anyone find it deeply lamentable (and rather shameful on the part of the wealthy west) that most of the world is a shitpit of human and economic underdevelopment? No. We've been there ourselves, just because we've already finished that part of developing doesn't mean it never happened or we should feel shame for already completing it. Consider suicide.
Jeremiah Jones
Many of those nations were doing decent or okay before Soviet occupation. On top of that you forget that these sort of things always come with huge caveats or manipulations that can fuck shit up in the long run.
Also people don't like living in paternalistic systems like that because it's pretty demeaning.
Andrew Wilson
Get a gym membership you useless fatfuck. I can hear your labored breathing through my monitor.
Nathan Smith
let them in already
Zachary Young
those countries being like that are their peoples own fault and they constantly try to drag us down to their level
fuck them
Jaxson Williams
are you that guy just going into every thread and calling americans fat? calm yourself
Benjamin Richardson
>all these edgelords pretending to be on the 20th century
Robert Williams
>all these Sudaca shitskin posters in this thread I thought that OP was only addressing western Europeans and Nortacas
Julian Lopez
>build africans a nice country with modern western living standards >they go full ooga booga with ak's and rape and murder all the evil whiteys, and any africans who collaborated with the west >then beg for aid from the west >we give it to them >they still hate us and start killing white people
why should these people deserve a second chance?
Logan King
top lyl
Cameron Jackson
>build africans a nice country with modern western living standards Nice. Where is it though?
>they go full ooga booga with ak's and rape and murder all the evil whiteys, and any africans who collaborated with the west What? I haven't seen any european or american nation warring with an african one after WW2.
>then beg for aid from the west >we give it to them >they still hate us and start killing white people Again, where?
Also, do you honestly something as big as Africa has only one culture? They have good places and shitty places just like any continent too, you know.
Gabriel Johnson
I agree with you. But there is another problem. The usage of natural resources. If everyone lived like American (the biggest users of resources) we would be in deep shit very, very fast. Even today we are draining the resources faster than they are being generated.
There is also a matter of societies as whole. As a person living in Slavic country, I'm not convinced that my country can ever truly prosper, because of state of society. Nothing is transparent, nothing is done by the book, etc. Successful societies are build on order, not on resources they command. They are build on will of people to achieve something great. I feel that poor countries lack this.
Dominic Cooper
>If everyone lived like American (the biggest users of resources) we would be in deep shit very, very fast. Even today we are draining the resources faster than they are being generated.
This, and it's really alarming. >There is also a matter of societies as whole. As a person living in Slavic country, I'm not convinced that my country can ever truly prosper, because of state of society. Nothing is transparent, nothing is done by the book, etc That seems awfully pessimistic desu
Thomas Butler
> That seems awfully pessimistic desu It's the state of the country, plain and simple. Young people are leaving the country and going to Germany or Ireland. If you have no connections you are no one.
Zachary James
He's just using hyperbole which makes it hard to discuss these things with facts when you basically are dealing with a guy who can't converse like a decent person irl lol.
Owen Fisher
Nature doesn't produce equality, that's Darwinism 101. Some organisms will always have a competitive advantage over others.
Gavin Smith
Why bring up Darwinism (doesn't even apply to this scenario). it's such a non-sequiter
Matthew Morales
t. 1820 Sociologist of the Year award winner.
Connor Wright
The OP sounds like this and apparently he also has the history knowledge of a 15 year old.