At this stage can anyone say with a straight face the stances of the majority of Hollywood people identifying as gay are legitimately genetic? I'm not talking about generally it can't happen, I'm talking about Hollywood, let's say even if it could be legitimate. There is plenty of evidence that shows it's a meme.
1. Their numbers are extremely high. Literally 1 out 4 women at least "come out" as at least bisexual and a lot of them "pretend" to be a gay as a joke" and a ton of them come out as plain gay. Sure, you could be gay but give me a break, you pop like mushrooms lately. By that rate the human species would be dead. You can't be part of a species that reached 2017 if it had so many women being plain gay, not even bisexual.
2. It's obviously trendy. Whenever anyone comes out their popularity goes about 100X for that day, and about 4X in the midterm and generally they get a boost. It's a synonym for success, especially for women.
3. The best proof that there is a lot of bullshit in Hollywood is that men do it extremely rarely compared to women. What the hell happened? Don't women and men have similar genetic material? Give me a break.
What if gay people are more genetically disposed to like the arts and therefor are over represented in the acting world
Daniel Lee
That's bullshit, sexist, and it clashes with the fact men are also into those arts but a very small minority of them come out as gay compared to women.
Colton Hill
They get raped as kids by jews.
Bentley Hill
Gay people, like Jews, are shunned from most of society. So they go where they are accepted. Hollywood.
Not hard to figure out, OP.
Jaxon Cruz
Stop looking to deep into this OP.
Angel Jenkins
It's not sexist and there is a lot of gay dudes in Hollywood. I'm nog going to argue with you any further before you back up your statements with some facts and numbers. user out.
Jaxson Robinson
But that's exactly the Opposite for Hollywood. Hollywood is not just the arts, it's also business, show business. Most of Hollywood wannabies want to make money and a name, they don't go to be "accepted", don't confuse it with Broadway for example.
Luke Nguyen
Exactly my point, I don't find it to be deep at all, I see a lot of superficial trending/memeing for the sweet popularity of boost of coming out.
Henry Hill
So you literally believe Ellen Page, Kirsten Steweart and all the other women into that meme are legitimately disgusted of men in bed. Fine. Keep believing that, I don't. That's not a statistics discussion, I literally talk of SPECIFIC PEOPLE. I look at them and I simply don't believe them. Honestly, who seriously gets a *pure* gaydar out of those two. I would say at MOST a bidar signal, and that weak.
Luis Taylor
because cali is fuckin gay dude
Henry Baker
It's all bullshit.Kristen Stewart had been repeatedly with men and now she pretends to be pure gay. From Wikipedia: >. She dated Michael Angarano, her co-star from the 2004 film Speak,[89] before meeting Robert Pattinson, with whom she appeared in Twilight.[90] Stewart has been a part of several relationships since then, including time with French singer Stéphanie
Isaiah Rivera
Pretty much all women are bisexual.
Daniel Carter
I claim that it's bullshit when they claim they suddenly became pure gay. As if. We know you've been with men for half your life Kristen.
Jeremiah Reed
Could have been beards, or she just didn't want to accept it. Plenty of male celebs who are gay dated women in the past. George Takei, Ricky Martin, Aaron Rodgers, no reason a woman couldn't do the same.
Chase Miller
stewart has never "come out" as anything
she just started dating women
Chase Ross
Which one has the dick?
Jonathan Wright
Ellen Page is also full of shit. She is obviously at most bisexual. Can any LGBT person here say with a straight face she isn't at least partly bi?
Elijah Cox
she is a tomboy says so right on her hat
Noah Cook
She straight up said she was gay.
Jose Garcia
no she didnt
>inb4 citing a yellow press magazine cover as "proof"
Jack Baker
That joke on SNL wouldn't have worked if she said bi or 'queer' or whatever. Plenty of women usr the word gay to mean 'not heterosexual'. She has explicitly stated that she doesn't care much for labels.
Jonathan Wilson
t. thirsty kristen fan desperately clinging onto the idea that she still likes men
Matthew Wright
The ACTUALLY purely gay people like Ellen Degeneres will take that and repeat it as pure gayness. Give me a fucking break though that Kirsten Stewart is purely gay. Anyone with a half broken bidar or gaydar knows that obviously most of Hollywood gayness is full of shit from literally straight people or at most slightly bi. It's funny how ironic it is. They pretend to be gay and they may be more straight than their own fans. It makes sense though, Hollywood is a place of show business, it's not really the arts.
Daniel Brooks
i still dont get what your issue is
Carson Perez
Hypocrisy. I can't stand it.
Julian Phillips
get used to it, its not new nor is it going anywhere
Mason Flores
Firstly, it's pretty obvious you have very little grasp of genetics -- so please just refrain from using "genetics" as the basis for any argument you have.
Also, if coming out as "gay" was seen as a career move, why would actors do it when it is demonstrably shown to be a career killer? The two women in your photo both dropped off the face of the earth when it was found out that they were gay.
Did you not consider the possibility that people are still really homophobic and would ostracize or not attend movies of gay men? Or that they too would be shunned by a critical and toxic fanbase and work environment?
Also, just because we know more people are gay, doesn't mean that equal amounts weren't gay before.
I'm just going to assume you're baiting and that I fell for it.
Eli Gutierrez
Ruby Rose is the gold star hero we've been waiting for
Mason Hall
>"became" >"suddenly"
Your grasp of sexuality is about as good as your grasp of genetics. Plz just stop posting anytime.
Jose Cooper
Newsflash: Women thrive on attention. If saying you're a dyke will get you some newspaper headlines, why not? And since you can just take it back and start fucking guys again at the drop of a hat, what do you have to lose?
Andrew Scott
You're full of shit. It's obviously a career boost. Ellen Page got 100X the popularity she had that day and in the long term she was like 2-3X boost at least.
Brody Jackson
>The two women in your photo both dropped off the face of the earth when it was found out that they were gay.
The careers of both had tanked way, way before they came out as gay, i.e. when audiences realised that Kristin Stewart really couldn't act and got sick of Ellen "Manic Pixie Dream Girl" Paige
If anything coming out was more a last gasp at getting career-revival publicity than anything
Jose Torres
What is this hypocrisy you are speaking of?
And what's the big deal with them being bi, if they even are? You sound really flustered over things that don't concern you?
Cameron Hall
>Ruby Rose That person actually triggers my gaydar, I wouldn't call her necessarily fake.
Joseph Butler
Do you not know what "gold star" means
Colton Moore
are you still gold star if you got molested by a man as a kid?
Jeremiah Baker
Are you literally 12? She spent decades of her life with men in bed and in long term relationships with them, let alone she never actually was the gaydar triggering type, other than having a long face constantly for the vampire movies. She is at most bisexual.
Wyatt Young
Ya, look at all those major blockbusters those women have starred in since coming out.
Ellen has been at the forefront of LGBTQ rights ever since her "coming out", that's what she's focusing on now. She has the documentary series on Viceland, Gaycation -- and is an all around activist. Using the star power she gained as an actor to make the voices of the marginalized heard.
Once again, what is your problem here?
Hunter Lee
I will not deny this, but that doesn't change the fact that she has dated several men in the past and that she explicitly refuses to label her sexuality.
Luke Harris
Bi they may be, I'm talking about the meme of them pretending to be purely gay now all of a sudden.
Cooper Ward
Rose is about as gay as can be though
Carter Wilson
>tfw dyke >tfw Ellen Page was my waifu and I was hyped when she came out even though I'd never have a chance with her >tfw she turned way too butch after coming out and is also most likely just bisexual
And Stewart's definitely bi, I can't see why a dyke would have multiple long term relationships with men, it makes no sense.
Noah Edwards
If you think she doesn't fuck men you have ZERO experience with lesbians. """Lesbianism""" is largely a myth.
Owen Bell
Yeah, just saying, in case anyone thought I meant there are no gay people. There are plenty. I find there's a sudden memeing of Bis and straight people identifying as gays.
Josiah Butler
I'm not sure what bearing her being in relationships with men has to do with her being gay.
It's funny how you're accusing me of being 12, when it's plainly obvious that you have, at best, a schoolyard grasp of sexuality.
There are numerous examples of men being with women their whole lives, sometimes even having children with them -- only to come out as gay. Not bisexual, but completely gay, not wanting anything to do with women. Their reasons for why they lived the charade vary, but they were all with women at one point.
Why is it so hard for you to believe that women can do this too? It's very sexist of you to put these restriction on women and not on men.
Also "gaydar triggering". Seriously? You can't even understand the concept of homosexuality, yet you are basing your conviction on your inability to notice their "gayness" with your immature knowledge?
Once again, pls stop posting.
Henry Evans
>tfw KStew dated St. Vincent who dated Cara Delevingne who cucked Johnny Depp with Amber Heard and probably fucks Taylor Swift who probably fucks Karlie Kloss and Cara dated Michelle Rodriguez who dated Kristana Loken and all these women have been your waifus at one point in time
Zachary Cook
I don't see how this is remotely a problem that you should be concerned with.
And once again "all of a sudden".
Educate yourself on homosexuality. It's embarrassing and difficult to have a proper discussion with you.
Nolan Parker
Allow me to have an opinion on specific people. That person doesn't trigger pure gayness gaydars easily. She doesn't even give the impression of strong bisexualism to be perfectly honest.
Nathaniel Rivera
gay people with actual social lives usually feel pressure to live a straight lifestyle
Her career died pretty much once the Twilight series stopped filming in 2012, it's all just mumblecore indies
Hudson Thomas
Why do lesbians have such strange taste in women? I don't mean this in a mean way, but why do you guys seem really into tattoos, flanel and pixie cuts?
Alexander Rogers
People have been saying Page and Stewart are gay/waiting for them to come out for fucking years, bro.
Like ask any gay person who pays attention to entertainment media. We all thought they were rugmunchers.
Christopher Baker
You are literally a baby in this aren't you? You are not talking with a homophobe. I'm saying those people are hypocritical cunts that take away the culture of actually gay people for personal financial and professional gain.
William Long
>gay people with actual social lives usually feel pressure to live a straight lifestyle
To be fair the last time gay men were left to their own devices they pretty much wiped their own community out with AIDS
Christian Ward
Most Sup Forums boards have had lesbian waifus.
Jason Lee
lesbianism is a meme, user. only men are capable of real, complete faggotry
It's funny that there's no sort of middle ground, it's either fuck like frenzied rabbits or don't fuck at all
Henry Morales
Who's your waifu now?
James Richardson
tl:dr
a more logical explanation is that they have been subjected to so many casting couches that they are disgusted by men now. sure it was there choice but it doesnt mean they werent exploited
Adam Moore
Plenty of those indies were good.
Levi Bailey
I think it's less her career died, and more she has the ability to pick and choose whatever scripts she wants to do since Twilight.
Like, of the two Stewart has basically been working non stop. Page is the one whose career is mostly dead in the water.
Jonathan Miller
Good or not, her mainstream career was dead long before she came out or was in paparazzi shots with sexually-ambiguous women
Elijah Ramirez
>a very small minority of them come out as gay compared to women.
because men coming out is less common if anything there's probably a lot more faggots in Hollywood than dykes
Leo Hill
she is so fucking pretty what a waste
Robert Ross
>People have been saying Page and Stewart are gay/waiting for them to come out for fucking years, bro They say this about literally everyone, they're bound to be right sometimes.
Zachary Hall
>women want to have sex less often than men >male scientists think this is bad and name it a "bed death" >men who only read the title of articles think lesbians dont have sex at all
hmm really made me think
Gabriel Young
>people who pretend to be others for a living have serious identity issues
Luis Lopez
>me in the back
William Kelly
I like her personality
Eli Ramirez
chloe moretz and victoria justice are next
go and and cap this post if you need to
Nathan Gray
Honestly I don't really get it either, I never understood why so many other lesbians seemed to be into women who looked like dudes. But my theory is that the majority of women are into masculinity and masculine traits in their partner but a small percentage of them aren't into dicks. So those ones seek out the closest thing. Also, a lot of lesbians tend to be into more 'alternative' things so they like stuff like tattoos and shit.
Feminine girls are superior though.
Eva is top tier, but I'm a Daddariofag at heart.
Jace Carter
>tfw no cara to lick her feet while she fucks your wife
Charles Robinson
a girl in clown makeup looks better than a top model without makeup
really makes you think
Nicholas Thompson
>tfw you waifed heard, kstew and cara and they're all bi
What's going on???
Jacob Baker
She's a massive hipster and prefers starring in indie or Assayas shit. She can live comfortably off that Rwillight money for the rest of her life.
James Garcia
>implying they won't end up fucking miserable as all hell
happened to my 2 aunts. were super progressive lesbos and are now childless in their 40's. grandpappy is so desperate now that he calls my dad all the time to hang out with me and my brothers after he ignored us for years.
Robert Diaz
>male sexual release means ejaculating your sperm and dominating someone >female sexual release means taking something from a man using your holes see, unlike male sexuality, the female one is actually entire contingent of a male participant.
>b-but you have to read the feminazi shilling dismissing it as a patriarchy meme yeah nah
Jacob Williams
Okay. I don't agree with that or really think it matters, but okay.
You're assuming that everyone found out about KStew coming out at the same time. The hollywood execs and other big names in that community likely knew for a while.
I never called you a homophobe. I did call you ignorant.
I don't agree with your statements because coming out has not gained them any more money. Acting and staring in huge blockbusters is a sure way to make millions. Coming out as gay has not helped their acting careers in any way.
Of the two women in the OP, one is an activist, the other stars in indie films (and rarely too). Their financial gain has dropped since coming out.
Also, you are assuming that they didn't always want to come out. If they were in the closet, who are you to determine their reasons for coming out?
Austin Carter
honestly the most sad thing about that post is its coming from a man and thats what you think male sexuality is
Alexander Wilson
>I like her personality Her quirckiness feels really forced sometimes.
Connor Wilson
>but a very small minority of them come out as gay Just because they don't come out doesn't mean they aren't gay. Gay men are still stigmatized way more than gay women, and it would hurt someone like Tom Cruise's brand with housewives in the rust belt if he came out. But there's definitely a disproportionate amount of closeted gay actors in Hollywood.
Brayden Davis
For some reason I find Daddario to be just ok but I can understand why someone would like her lot.
Also Eva is great and the only lesbian rumors I found of her was that one time she called herself a lesbian pedophile for fun in a interview.
Jonathan Cooper
>Dominating someone
Toxic masculinity. Pls leave. If that's what you think sex is about, you're a part of the problem. I assume you don't see women as equals either, do you?
Josiah Lopez
>Give me a fucking break though that Kirsten Stewart is purely gay. lol Kristen Stewart is openly bi, not "purely gay" you dipshit.
John Fisher
tl;dr
Samuel Hughes
Shit meant for
Luke Torres
>itt: underage virgins who are somehow experts in human sexuality particularly that of women
Liam Rodriguez
this thread is embarrassing
OP is clinically retarded
Lucas Edwards
>the two women in the OP, one is an activist, the other stars in indie films (and rarely too). She stars in a lot of films actually.
Jayden Adams
>physical domination is not an aspect of male sexuality top wew
William Rodriguez
Although I totally agree with you. I don't think that gay men are sigmatized "way more" than gay women. I think the stigma is just different for both.
With men, you have the machismo hypermasculine attitudes you have to portray. So gay man go against that and you have huge stigma. You can call it "visible" or "regular" stigma.
With gay women, their stigma often comes in the form of fetishization. It's not that they're actually accepted, it's just that it's "hot" or not see of as big a deal because it's "women".
So ya, I agree with you, but I think there is still quite a lot of stigma.
Jack Lee
naw, underage virgins would be like KEKEKEK and post a picture of that frog making that face
OP is clearly a mid 30 yo neckbeard virgin
Xavier Bailey
Why? She's gonna stay pure, so that's okay.
Hudson Cook
you just KNOW
Brayden Ross
>happened to my 2 aunts >2 aunts
How does that happen? I might understand with twins, but I think any instance where there's multiple gay kids it's pretty clear someone's been molesting them