Why people don't consider Brazil western?

Why people don't consider Brazil western?

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You have to have blue in your flag.

They think we aren't white enough and our democracy isn't stable enough or some other bullshit like that.

>anything on the american continent
>western

no my boy, we are simply mockeries of western culture.

because Brazil looks like an african war zone

Not the best indicator, to be honest.

What does that have to do with the definition of "western" though?

Western has wars outside its borders, pleabien.

But we have.

Western culture
>term used very broadly to refer to a heritage of social norms, ethical values, traditional customs, belief systems, political systems and specific artifacts and technologies that have some origin or association with Europe.
We fit in this description

that your culture is closer to a random christian african country

You know that's bullshit, but whatever..

It isnt europe or european.

You don't know nothing about our culture.
Our culture is very similar to American culture because of American media influence.

No, carnaval and shit Is not a culture, just a festival.

Angola e Brazil

but somalia is western
democracy at it's finest

Using slums to decide whether we are western or not is the same as using a shitty city like detroit when it comes to the USA.

Because Western these days is pretty much a synonym of developed country. Japan or South Korea are more likely to be considered Western than any Latin American country.

Except you hardly have any ethnic Europeans at all so you don't count

Youre an African in an African country.

In others words, you only consider western what you like.
Got it.

because its in the south

The USA likes to consider itself Western but it's really not.

Western = White European nothing else is western, Brazil is African.

too poor, too much inequality, too much violence (by locals, not migrants) too corrupt

So you USA is considered western? You have more niggers

>BRICS
You hang out with non-westerners.
>aren't white enough
Not an issue
>our democracy isn't stable enough
Well... is it?

That's a meme. That's not a normal thing here.

>so why
Fix.

USA is 200 million European race.
Brazil is 100% African with tiny sprinkles of equivelants of white tourusts

youtube.com/watch?v=8AVzkTd9R44

So being western is not about culture and customs. It's about success?

Bro, we make joke about that because it's ridiculous. People dont eat monkey here, memes is not a good argument.

USA is not Western anyways nowdays.

(I'm not who you were replying to)

But what are you, personally? Be honest; you have no reason to lie.
Do you personally have any non-European ancestry?

Brazil does have Western values but its mixed with other ethical concepts.
Brazil has an incredibly high rate of crime and corruption. I think that is it's biggest problem.
There are so many drive by shootings, you have kids threatening you with guns just to get 5$ and then driving away on stolen scooters, public lynchings and organized drug cartels.

If they ever got rid of all the criminals and corruption they'd become a superpower

It's not funny when you exaggerate like that. This was a country formed by Portuguese people. The king of Portugal fled here and established his monarchy here. Then his son ruled. Then his grandson ruled.

>USA is 200 million European race.
Wew, you heard it here first: Mexicans are European.

100% of Brazilians are black.

you have an affinity towards brains

So, just need to have whites on ur country? We are the third country who have more whites. So, by your logic, we are the third more western country.

Nice, retarded burguer.

With Mexicans its around 250 million or something.

No, Brazil isnt white, its mixed
thus non white.

If this is 100% Black then the Egyptians were black

I guess the Egyptians were subsaharan after all. I mean this is 100% black

Egyptians arent white, ancient egyt had 0% non egyptian dna.

>idiot thinks a joke pic is brazilian culture.

So, we need to become a super power before be considered western? Sincerely, fuck you.

It's like to say someone: "become beautiful and back to be my friend"
It's just interest for say "look, all westerns are super power!"

Shit, we already are a super power. No one western European country can beat Brazil in 1x1 without using nuclear bombs.

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Yes, just because you want.

Brazil should fight corruption.

No, they found some subsaharan dna in the ancient mummies. Even though it wasn't a lot.

So are you, Leroy.

>not counting parcial European descent
>mixed
Nice, retarded burguer.

You are surrounded by spics so we group you in with them.

What counts as white in Brazil is different from the USA. I'm pretty sure the one drop rule is the standard here. I'm mixed race, but I'd be considered white in Brazil.

en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/One-drop_rule

Obama is considered white in brazil.

Brazilians are good people, they just need help to get rid of criminal scum

Brazil ended corruption last year.

All my ancestors come from Europe.

Do some Americans actually live by the one drop rule?

Same reason why Estonia isn't nordic; we 2 poor.

We'll show those whitto piggus...

That's an american rule. People who mix might not be white but they're not full black either. How can someone 50% of something be 100% of something?

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Yes, if you have black ancestor you are non white, whats wrong with that are you racist?

No, he isn't. Wtf?

You are 100% non white.

Burgers logic.

>can trace 8% more
So there was some subsaharan dna

because there is nothing western at all about brazil? even your language is from country that is on the edge of being western

Thats modern egyptians.

That you really think that everyone is mixed, or nobody here is Europeans? You really think that Europeans only go for ur country? Brazil is the second country who received more immigrants, so, USA is the first. So, if we are mixed, you are much more.
Jesus...

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Yeah but they can trace 8% more in the modern Egyptians meaning the was some in the ancient Egyptians, right?

So do mine, but they weren't all white
>live by
What do you mean by this? Most people don't care about race.
They look different, and black culture is different from mainstream American culture. I know there are memes about the mutt Merican, but, growing up in a small Midwestern town, I never met a person whose ancestry wasn't Irish, German/Scandinavian, or Polish until I was 16. To this day, I've only personally met like 5 mixed race people.
I consider myself mixed, and that's because I'm 1/2 hillbilly and 1/2 slav (nonwhite).

Also, yeah, it's an American rule. The whole point is that we have different standards for what is considered white.

Can you exemplify what's non-western about us?

No, Egyptians brought slaves 700 years earlier in slave trade same as Brazil.

>That you really think that everyone is mixed, or nobody here is Europeans?
No
>You really think that Europeans only go for ur country?
Did I say that?

>all ancestors come from Europe
>they werent all white
Explain?

Slavs aren't white, and I might have a bit of Italian in there

I've been to Brazil and it wasn't that good. Very different compared to Texas. What makes you say that America and Brazil are similar?

Slavs are European and genetically white.

>he wants to whitewash this
Slavs are Asians.

So why are you keep screaming that everyone here is mixed or black? We received a larger number of immigrants of all Europe on past, on the same time as you.
Our culture is similar as yours, our religion is similar as yours, our colonizers are similar as yours, our continent is the same.

Of course we have a lot of differences too, but we are probably more culturally equal with you than a Germany.

you have no democracy whatsoever, high corruption, typical third world values and behaviour (commiting crimes is seen as something totally normal for example), you didn't contribute anything to western culture (like france or germany did in the past and america is doing right now), your streets are dirty, most people are poor, you barely have any western europe genes, your country isn't even a part of any core western organisation like nato.
some of you might be consuming western culture but it does not make your whole country western.

also can you name any particular traits of a western country that brazil as a whole has?

Well, are similar in a lot of things, different in others, but our society try to copy yours in many aspects, so it's similar.

Yes he is Bertinho.

Pra que vocês se importam com isso?

People see your country more like a 3rd world shithole

>So why are you keep screaming that everyone here is mixed or black?
I'm not. That's someone else.
>Our culture is similar as yours
Outside of Florida, not really
>our religion is similar as yours
Me personally, yeah, but not really for most Americans
>our colonizers are similar as yours
Portugal is not part of the UK, France, or Spain. At that, the French and Spanish influences on our culture are minimal.

We aren't western because we are third world.

Why it's so difficult to you to see that?

What's this bullshit about we have no democracy?
>Russian
>talking about democracy
>russian
>talking about high corruption
KEK

>your street are dirty
That has nothing to do with being western.

>also can you name any particular traits of a western country that brazil as a whole has?
Catholic
Our laws
Our music and literature
Our political system
Many things we inherited from the Portuguese because most of us descend from them.

this. it's basically like slavs who think they are a part of some "wh*te race" and keep sperging about how important it is to save our race, while in reality they are seen as human trash by actual wh*te "people". sad and pathetic

Gtfo, faggot
Go to your circlejerk gay ERP thread

Latin America must fix slums, huge poverty, high crime rate and then you can think about being western.

>Catholic
That's not a white thing.

Sai daqui macaco, vá pra thread de viadagem com o finlandês viado

No, he isn't. Obama would considered black here or pardo.
Blacks here are more mixed than American blacks. Look at pic related and see how darker the american looks

Excellent argument. Really changed my mind how I view brazil

>>Russian
>>talking about democracy
>>russian
>>talking about high corruption
i am not even gonna finish reading your post. i know that russia is a totalitarian shithole, i am well aware of how shit this country is. but brazil is the same non-western third shithole filled with narcos and criminals of all sorts. stop embarrassing yourself and sucking that western cock. western countries are the best and i wish i could live in one but your country isn't western and most likely will never be