As soon as this happened, the Enterprise had completed its mission

As soon as this happened, the Enterprise had completed its mission.

They made it sound like Shinzon could just wipe out the Enterprise crew and still continue its mission to kill everyone on Earth. Except the Scimitar could no longer cloak, its disrupters were offline, its shields were offline, and it likely had limited warp capacity at that point due to the severe hull damage.

Even in the best case scenario that it got its shields and disrupters back, it would never fully cloak again with that damage, therefore it would be obvious. The fleet that patrols and protects sector 001 would destroy it handily, considering the damage that just one Federation ship and a couple of Romulans were able to do to it.

You`re forgetting the fact that the only ship ever in the vacinity of Earth is the Enterprise.

You and I both know that that's bullshit.

Also it takes SEVEN MINUTES to fire the weapon. SEVEN VULNERABLE MINUTES, unable to maneuver, unable to cloak, etc. Hell they could beam photon torpedos on board from Earth from a shuttlecraft or something.

This movie never made any sense.

Federation is dealing with cloak equipped ships for centuries now. They have sensor nets around all major planets that can detect cloaked ships.

>it's Reginald Broccoli episode

Insurgence > First Contact > Generations >>>>> Nemesis

Pretty much.

>letting your enemy escape so they can do repairs and come back

"no"

I maintain that Nemesis is a great film.

>I'm trying to believe you, Shinzon.

Have you ever seen bolts anywhere on the Enterprise? They use space welding and other magic to hold things together.

Yet the coincidental bridge that Riker fights on was held to the walls with bolts that were weak enough to break from minimal stress.

That alone made this movie total garbage, mind rape and plot holes aside.

>Have you ever seen bolts anywhere in the Enterprise?
>quotes a scene that clearly shows bolts on the Enterprise

Is this the level of autism I would have to have to not like Nemesis?

>Bolts don't exist in Star Trek
>Except for when they do.

>too autistic to see the blatantly poor writing that was vomited out of some drunken writer's hand to find a purpose for Riker and as some form of revenge for the unnecessary mind rape.

>something is inconsistent in Star Trek

STOP THE FUCKING PRESSES

This movie was garbage for a hundred different reasons. It didn't look like a Star Trek film, it didn't sound like a Star Trek film, and the writing was nowhere on par with any previous Star Trek film. It was hot garbage and I honestly can't believe that it ever left the editing bay.

I disagree.
I find it to be the most "Trek" of the TNG films.

A genetic experiment supported by slaves kills the centuries old senate, becomes a tyrant and everyone is just fine with it.

> Ok, genetic experiment of another species, i guess you are now the absolute ruler of our old and arrogant republic. And your group of remans, who we used to despise and use as slaves only can be you praetorian guard in the senate of our old and traditional republic. So tell us, how did the old senate disintegrate again?

>Wee supported you Shinzon, because you promised us action. Yet now you delay!

Shinzon just duped the military.
Crazier shit happens in real life, boyo.

Spartacus becoming the first emperor of the roman republic would be less crazy desu. At least Spartacus was human.

Sort of related as far as "wtf moments in government", look who is king of America right now.

If Trump was a vat grown pig with human organs, sourrounded by a Taliban bodyguard, then yes.

I mean more or less that's the case.

bump

Daily reminder

SW ships have shields though.

Prove it

that can't even stop a single asteroid like it happened in ESB

>Shields up!
-lesbian pilot in the first five minutes of The Phantom Menace

>inb4 prequels
You said prove shields were in SW, not the OT.

If it's not in the OT it's not canon

no, I pointed out they are shit shields

remember the part where the shield generator gets hit while the shields are up?

Source?

Yeah sorry. You weren't really the target there.

What's the problem?

I'd assume they'd blast that area and the massive impact force would fuck with the generator.

Why put it on the outside if such a thing was possible?

If you have to put it on the outside for reasons, why not build with multiple failsafes. Its the queens ship ffs.

Because the Naboo are pacifists?

Did you not watch the movie?

Nobody cared about Naboo, it's a backwater planet.

Pacifists should build the best shields in the galaxy tbqh.

What a wasted opportunity for a movie.

Before the events of the PT, the queen of Naboo was not a hot target for assassinations.
Nobody cares about Naboo.
They're next door to Tatooine for fuck's sake!

but all ships have the shields generators outside
the Star Destroyers too

They make reference to "self-sealing stembolts" all the time.

And?
If we're going that route, the OT makes 0 sense either.

Wasn't the sheild generator those two balls on top of the SD bridge?

Also, why does a one man fighter hitting the bridge cause a super star destroyer to completely fail?

This was a new and improved cloak that even the romulans couldn't detect

>I didn't watch the movie
Oh it shows!

Daily reminder that the math has been done and Star Wars weapons are much much stronger than Star Trek weapons. If you take out Q and just use starfleet they would stand no chance against the galactic empire.

Prove it