Yo, REAL TALK

Yo, REAL TALK.

How come Harry Potter never incorporated muggle technology with his magic?

Invisible flying car

What would win

Voldemort vs 1000 trained marines?

Sure but why not take a recorder and tape over an incantation with his voice were he can speed it up? Or lace bullets with magic? You think Voldermort has ever heard the sound of an L96? No.

If it never occurred to the thousands of Muggleborns before him, or even to Hermione who was definitely the brains of the outfit you can't expect Harry to do it.

>take a recorder and tape over an incantation with his voice
don't think that would work.

>lace bullets with magic
to do what, exactly?

Wouldn't that have been an interesting way to defeat the magic purist thematically? Not even talking about a gun but something that implied Wizard/muggle harmony was key.

Why not?

>to do what, exactly?

To shoot their spells that they already do but much more efficiently.

Rowling is too much of a hack to see the kino in that

AVADA-*BANG* *BANG* *BANG*

...heh...nothin' personnel merlin....

I see.

In the books, there was no "generic laser bolt spell" they have in the movies, so "lacing bullets with spells" wouldn't work for that purpose.

However, I believe enchanting an assault rifle with +10 accuracy is a very doable thing in that verse.

The incantation taping could possibly work, I don't think there's anything contradicting this explicitly, but it just doesn't sound right. Each spell is wand+incantation+will power type of thing.

Because that's actually a good idea

That would be awesome to have in the series. Great idea to fit it together. They always used muggle and mudblood as an insult for every movie so the purists realizing at the end that you couldn't just have one, you needed both to attain some type of higher being would be fantastic.

Voldy would win if he was prepared and knew when they were coming. If he were up against tier 1 super stealth operators, then he would lose.

Any arguments against this?

I don't have anything to substantiate this, but I think wizards have a catch-all "protection from muggle weapons" spell. Given Voldemort's obsession with immortality, I'd assume he is covered.

What the fuck would voldy do if he steps on of these?

Absolutely BTFO.

help me out here, lorefags

any instances of wizard killing by means of conventional weapons? simple backstab with a knife would suffice.

I don't think they have knives in the wizard world.

The goal is to kill Voldy correct? So he can just let the marines come to him. He doesn't have to make a single step towards them.

Make bullets with the same cores as wands even chop a wand up to make bullets out of it then you are essentially throwing your wand at the enemy which I believe werks

>A meat cleaver is a type of knife commonly used by butchers to cut pieces of meat. Walter Parkin[1] would attend his children's Quidditch matches[2] with his wand in one hand and a meat cleaver in the other, which often had an intimidating effect on the opposing team.

wait, wut

Swords though

>Bellatrix was supporting Hermione, who seemed to be unconscious, and was holding her short silver knife to Hermione’s throat. “Drop your wands,” she whispered. “Drop them, or we’ll see exactly how filthy her blood is!”

so, OP is kinda right. knife trumps magic.

Why didn't Voldy just nuke the muggles?

correct
>‘Interesting theory,’ said Harry. ‘Has anyone ever tried sticking a sword in Voldemort? Maybe the Ministry should put some people on to that, instead of wasting their time stripping down Deluminators, or covering up breakouts from Azkaban.

no answer, to this, sadly

>That very night, Death transfigured to a murderous wizard. The unknown murderous wizard crept to the inn as the eldest brother slept, drunk from wine. The wizard slit the oldest brother’s throat for good measure and stole the wand. That was when Death took the first brother.

>dumbledore gazed out the window, mulling on Harry's thought, "interesting indeed" he said "although I'm the only one around here who sticks things into people, now how about you whip down those trousers?"

Didn't think there was actually any source on the rumours of dumbledore swinging that way

>lob this at Voldermort and friends
>disoriented as fuck
>kill/disable them ezpz

Why did Harry and Co have to make it so hard?

keke

Because to integrate something mundane from reality would have been an even greater blow to creativity in what is already one of the dullest franchises in the history of movie franchises. Seriously each episode following the boy wizard and his pals from Hogwarts Academy as they fight assorted villains has been indistinguishable from the others. Aside from the gloomy imagery, the series’ only consistency has been its lack of excitement and ineffective use of special effects, all to make magic unmagical, to make action seem inert.

Perhaps the die was cast when Rowling vetoed the idea of Spielberg directing the series; she made sure the series would never be mistaken for a work of art that meant anything to anybody?just ridiculously profitable cross-promotion for her books. The Harry Potter series might be anti-Christian (or not), but it’s certainly the anti-James Bond series in its refusal of wonder, beauty and excitement. No one wants to face that fact. Now, thankfully, they no longer have to.

>a-at least the books were good though
"No!"
The writing is dreadful; the book was terrible. As I read, I noticed that every time a character went for a walk, the author wrote instead that the character "stretched his legs."

I began marking on the back of an envelope every time that phrase was repeated. I stopped only after I had marked the envelope several dozen times. I was incredulous. Rowling's mind is so governed by cliches and dead metaphors that she has no other style of writing. Later I read a lavish, loving review of Harry Potter by the same Stephen King. He wrote something to the effect of, "If these kids are reading Harry Potter at 11 or 12, then when they get older they will go on to read Stephen King." And he was quite right. He was not being ironic. When you read "Harry Potter" you are, in fact, trained to read Stephen King.

he can fly??

thanks.

OK, given all that, the answer to >Voldemort vs 1000 trained marines?

has to be still no, as Voldemort was some kind of immortal uber-lich.

However, any other stupid wizard - could've easily been killed with a gun or a knife.

Not doing it is fine, but not having any single character (especially mudbloods, like Ron) suggest it, is indeed hacky.

took you long enough
great intro
checked

Decent intro, not too shabby

I'm not the usual "No!"poster, but someone had to pick up the slack in his absence.

What I don't get is Harry Potter states the salem witch trials were pretty much a joke to the wizard community with wizards even exposing themselves on purpose to get bonfired because it was all a bit of fun.

But Fantastic Beasts clearly treated that shit as serious business which has made their wizarding community go underground and live in even more secrecy than in Europe, where they are even banned from interacting with muggles.

What did JK Rowling mean by this?

Or, the other way around, why don't the muggles nuke the shit out of the wizards? I'm pretty sure the wizards in Harry Potter have no idea what a nuclear missile is, seeing as how they are clueless on ordinary muggle items. They'd be totally shocked and dumbfounded that they have no idea what to do, except maybe apparate.

Since wizards couldn't find Voldemort's hiding place I'd assume operators wouldn't be able to.

You can't tell me you believe the Malfoy mansion doesn't have multiple muggle-repelling charms on it to make sure filthy muggles don't just wander in asking for directions. Just put one of them down and any operator out to get Voldy would suddenly think he's somewhere else once they get close. Or they'll start thinking of how they let the gas on and run back home or some shit 'cause it's magic.

they could and they would, but muggles are unaware of wizzards

good point. something doesn't add up.

Voldie doesn't stand a chance.

>wizards live in a castle, a muggle invention made for defensive purposes
>they get to said castle by a train, a muggle means of transport
>their artifacts are swords, diadems and other muggle trinkets but imbued with magic.

So where is the line that separates muggle technology that wizards use and enhance for themselves and muggle technology they're afraid and/or unaware of?

Did they really specify that it was the SALEM witch trials in the books? I just remember it as "witch trials", meaning the local British ones. So it could just be that the Brits don't have the same witch trial baggage as the states due to the witch trials not being as severe. Like with slavery.

>mudbloods like Ron

What did he mean by this?

>why don't the muggles just nuke London to take out the terrorists?

Gee, I dunno.

muggle technology was cut-off when the Wizarding World seperated from muggles. Muggles know about Merlin and stuff since it was before the change

I it they explained that magic came about during the dark ages of Europe when the region was divided on where to find other sources of energy. Some went with the newly discovered coal and others with magic.

I don't fucking know.

No they didn't.

Second user is correct.

>Wendelin the Weird was a witch who lived in the Middle Ages. She allowed herself to be caught forty-seven times in various disguises by witch-hunters, who tried to burn her at the stake. With the use of a Flame-Freezing Charm, however, the flames were rendered harmless, creating only a gentle tickling sensation which Wendelin enjoyed.

This is medieval europe, not colonial america.

Merlin was long fucking before steam locomotives were a thing.

Are non-readers this stupid? Ron is a pure blood

she was also a QT

Fair enough my mistake. I've also just found she wrote a bunch of chapters for this film on the Salem Witch Trials specifically.

who was halfbreed then? Hermione?

The Muggle Prime Minister knows, right? If he notices the amount of muggle killings or the magical shit that spills out into the muggle world, I'm sure he'd take action.

>You think Voldermort has ever heard the sound of an L96?
Yes, considering Voldemort was raised as a muggle same as Harry.

good point, nukes it is, then

>Maggie Thatcher knew about the wizarding world
>She likely hired wizards to wage war against Argentinian wizards
>The Falkland War was won by expecto patronus-ing the Argies to oblivion

The only halfbreed is Hagrid and Voldemort. Ron is a pure-blood, Harry's a half-blood and Hermione's a mudblood.

>While Muggles have been told that Black is carrying a gun (a kind of metal wand which Muggles use to kill each other)

All the muggle prime minister knows is that a painting in his office sometimes seems to sneeze and that a man came out of nowhere and told him there's wizards. Most PMs would be more worried about their own sanity than trying to start a war with the people who can appear in and disappear from their office at will.

he knew about Sirius Black's escape (it was published in muggle press, even), see and about Voldemort threat.

>mfw muggles call it a gun and not a Banger and M*A*S*H

OK, then Hermione should've suggested something.

Then again, those poor kids lacked formal education...

The muggle PM gets frequent visits though, well at least the latest one did, and had an Auror bodyguarding him. He at least knows he's not crazy.

It was only the most recent PM who had a bodyguard and all that, because of the wizards fearing that Voldemort would go straight for him.

But even with him that's all he has to go on. What the fuck is he meant to do? convene a meeting with his generals and tell them a man appeared from nowhere in his office to reveal magic is real and that they now have to work out a strategy to identify and neutralise the wizards hiding among them? Dude would be out of his suit and into a straight-jacket before the week was over.

Even if they did believe him for some insane reason they'd have nothing to go on except investigating weird-looking people. Alan Moore would be arrested long before Harry.

Real talk

Why is no one dual wielding wands?

Why is no one putting wands between their fingers to look like wolverine and casting 6 kedavra spells?

Why dont harry sew the cloak of invisibility into a costume that fits his frame like a green man suit and hit people with a 4x4

Why doesnt any one go train boxing and cast a magic immunity spell to themselves and punch everyone instead?

Never mentioned or implied in the book.

We call it a rooty tooty point and shooty but Rowling used the more common term so her books would appeal to more people

>Why dont harry sew the cloak of invisibility into a costume that fits his frame like a green man suit and hit people with a 4x4
magnificent

>bullets that are invisible to the naked eye can't kill
>spells that need to be recited in order to shoot some slow ass bolt of energy can kill them

>brit bong
>guns

lol

Alright, then it's

>shoot some slow ass bolt of energy
by the way, wanted to also clarify this part
were the spells in the books accompanied by VFX too, or was it a point-recite-shithappens thing?

>Why doesnt any one go train boxing and cast a magic immunity spell to themselves and punch everyone instead?

I'd watch the shit out of a movie about Muhammad Ali casting a bunch of protective spells on himself and then going in swinging in the middle of a wizard fight with bolts flying everywhere.

>mfw literal "Float like a butterfly, sting like a bee, the hands can't hit what the eyes can't see."

>Why is no one dual wielding wands?
>Why is no one putting wands between their fingers to look like wolverine and casting 6 kedavra spells?

sounds pointless, as you have to point and recite a spell.


>Why dont harry sew the cloak of invisibility into a costume that fits his frame like a green man suit and hit people with a 4x4
>Why doesnt any one go train boxing and cast a magic immunity spell to themselves and punch everyone instead?

That does sound good, though. DnD cleric much?

Yes, Brit guns.

I can imagine something like that happening in History of Magic

>"Perfect" Peter Bumbleswitch, the Boxing champion of Britain went on a record 108 match undefeated streak, until it was discovered he was using confundus and protego spells on every single opponent he faced.

Im serious anons, the invisibility cloak can accommodate a couple of people, Harry is like 5'3, he will have enough material for a green man suit and have a left over to coat a 4x4

just imagine voldemort getting punched in the face, he probably never got punched in his life

all these dark wizards spending their time to cast spells, none of them are trained to take a punch

Some spells definitely had bolts. But I always had the impression that they were like actual bolts of lightning, not something you could dodge after it had been cast.

The weirdest change in the movies is how Harry's favourite spell works. It's a disarming spell that makes the wand fly towards you, but in the movies they changed it so that half the time it knocks the person out instead. I just don't get why you'd bother changing it.

Yes? We just can't buy them alongside 5kg of processed cheese. I have a .22LR for plinking squirrels.

>Why is no one putting wands between their fingers to look like wolverine and casting 6 kedavra spells?

Based on "Swish and Flick" as well as "The Wand chooses the Wizard" i'd say technique is important to spellcraft and you can't just have 6 wands at once.

What the fuck are you saying? Voldemort was a Half-Blood. Halfbreed means different species, like Giant and Human (Hagrid). Half-Blood means Muggle and Wizard, like Harry or Voldemort or Snape.

I'm pretty sure one of the special things about the killing curse is that it goes through all protective charms, though. It's why you'd use it instead of an explosion spell.

>The weirdest change in the movies is how Harry's favourite spell works. It's a disarming spell that makes the wand fly towards you, but in the movies they changed it so that half the time it knocks the person out instead. I just don't get why you'd bother changing it.

Just guessing, that was done to avoid having a visual effect similar to Force Pull from star wars franchise.

mike tyson can dodge that shit nigga

It's such an easy thing to have handwaved away too, like just mention that powerful wizards have a 24/7 charm that deflects bullets or something stupid.

The fact that Muggles were just background in the entire franchise has always struck me as retarded.

I think a far superior YA franchise that deals with wizard and shit is the Bartimeus Trilogy, by Jonathan Stroud.

Actually has consistent logic, good world building, and some actual decent characters.

too creative for Rowling

>all these dark wizards spending their time to cast spells, none of them are trained to take a punch

given dark wizards were mostly of posh aristocrat variety, this sounds weirdly fitting and would've made a great background scene in one of the movies

Not even muggle technology was required. During the scene where Harry is called into the forbidden forest to sacrifice himself to Voldemort, he travels under his invisibility cloak. This is all he had to do:

>the cry of a fully grown mandrake KILLS anyone who hears it
>"th-there aren't any around!"

sprout was dropping them like frag grenades off a tower during the battle of hogwarts

>"b-but there aren't any left!"

so some teacher can escape to hogsmeade through the portrait tunnel and apparate to somewhere an adult mandrake would be and bring it back, there is literally no excuse

>harry carries a potted, grown mandrake under his cloak
>doesn't even need to leave his cloak, can invisibly pull out the mandrake once he reaches voldy and all his death eaters in one spot (which was retarded of voldemort but nobody took advantage)
>RIP hagrid, too bad
>harry can be wearing the earmuffs available in sprouts class so he doesn't even need to die himself

>implying Harry and Voldemort are the same

Both of Harry's parents were magicians. Voldemort is the child of an actual muggle. In the eyes of someone who'd throw around mudblood terms that'd be a halfbreed. He's barely above Hermione since he's at least got one wizard parent, but there's the added disgust of miscegenation since his mom actually went out of her way to dilute her family line by fucking a muggle.

Just imagine voldy on a choke hold

would he panic?

>The fact that Muggles were just background in the entire franchise has always struck me as retarded.

it's a bit stupid, yes, but also gives it some uniqueness. usually "they live among us" stories are doing it too literaly (you know that famous building? it's THEIR headquaters)

thanks for the rec, though

Half the time it still does the force-pull thing, though.

I guess the simplest answer is that they just didn't want to have to bother with Harry using two different spells depending on when the writers needed someone to just be disarmed or temporarily knocked out. Lazy writing, basically.

>sprout was dropping them like frag grenades off a tower during the battle of hogwarts
Was this in the book?
Fucking hell, that would be awesome to see in the film. As a matter of fact, the whole battle seemed kinda uninteresting. I wanted to see more magical shit happening.

Voldermort was a Parselmouth, and you are saying he's barely above Hermione.

*uncloaks behind you *
*psh... Nothin personnel*

>Movie removes the first hogwarts battle because they didn't want it to feel repetitive when they do the final battle
>they cut 80% of the book battle out of the film

Bravo Yates.

why is no one using a dickwand?

yeah, from the book. the entire battle of hogwarts chapter was pure 'remember this' from beginning to end, it was very satisfying to read. centuars, aragogs clan, mandrake grenades, buckbeak, peeves going apeshit, everyone got involved