When will Sup Forums admit that capitalism is bad?

When will Sup Forums admit that capitalism is bad?

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That's not real capitalism :^)

as long as things are as they are in norway now, i dont care much if americans suffer because of ebul capitalists desu

You will change your mind when you get TTIP agreement in EU.

Once we develop a better system

There is literally nothing wrong with outsourcing. It leads to cheaper products, increased standards of living for both sides and allows people to move into other job fields.

How do you get uncucked by Globalism, if you think capitalism is the best system?

There are reasons why major corporations are shilling for TISA, TTP and TTIP.

>b-but Trump will stop it
Doubt it, this guy always change political views and I don't see why he would stop it, since it will benefit his corporations profit.

This.

Controled capitalism with some socialist factors. Works wonders for the nordics. At least before they were subverted into muh multiculti crap.

It is bad. The only argument for capitalism ever put forward is "I-it's not as bad as other systems!" It's like contracting one disease but sitting content that you don't have another.

that's not real communism, either :^)

Name a better system.

Got to find a balance I guess, capitalism and socialism is just two sides of the same shekel.

Capitalism is efficient and works great.

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When will you stop shilling for jewish supremacy?

I've been on Addie's side for years

>Capitalism not jewish supremacy

Good goy

Can you show me a capitalist system with Nordic people for comparison?

Any system works ok with Scandinavians. As they are finding out now, they don't all work with Arabs and Somalis.

Feudalism.
Try to argue that

Won't happen as the EU will collapse soon. It's only selling points are anti-racism and importing niggers and muslims

It sure is
but communism is much worse so fuck off faggot

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When capitalism becomes bad.

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So you itend to hand the jews a totalitarian state rather than some banks and a couple of burger chains?

Many do though, Sup Forums is not one person.

No. Hats retarded. It's inefficient and history shows us that it is completely chaotic and unreliable. Monarchy with a parliament undertoe would be far more sensible. Authority and the power to change without the chaos that a large and turbulent noble society brings.

Functionally identical to socialism in that everything is owned by lords(bureaucrats) and conferred by lords.

Reminder read Culture of Critique by Kevin McDonald and install the coincidence detector

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niqqa this place is full of hardcore national socialists

History shows us it is capable of creating world-engulfing empires.
And feudalism =/= monarchy.

And not that i am seriously considering this idea - just amount of sheer "only capitalism works" in this thread is not a sign of red pill.

Capitalism works only with the state those elected often only sit within parliament to futher corporations while states bail out large multinationals
Why do you think capitalists love mass-immigration so much because it keeps wages low.
Couldn't think of a more jewish ideology

>that image

I keep seeing that image, I will save it for a shitpost later.

>Doubt it, this guy always change political views and I don't see why he would stop it
He has been against this stuff since the 1980's (NAFTA), publicly. It's the one position a long with the wall that he has been consistent on.

>since it will benefit his corporations profit.
It won't. People also have other motivations than profitt, even capitalists. Like nationalism.

> my specific brand of capitalism has never been tried

>Strawman the picture

>Bill Clinton
>capitalism

Are you serious? The guy was a corrupt piece of shit who increased the government and made shady deals with rich fags.

So you want to increase the government? What do you think is going to happen then? You think that will be bad for rich people?

Sweden was not such a paradise forever, in the beginning of the 20th century it was not much different than the rest of europe. Also we can't really tell how well pure capitalism would work for them today, but we can tell that a mixed system is (or was) working just fine.

>/leftypol/ is unironically making daily anti-capitalism/pro-communism threads in an attempt to "convert" Sup Forums
>gets btfo in every single one of them

wew lads

I'm a socialist but only because of robots and automation. They will destroy and bury communism for good and usher in an era of techno/robo socialism.

The state will never whither away like communists and anarchists believe though.

Refute any of Politifact's claims.

all "isms" that go unchecked are bad.

Just because your against capitalism that dosen't make you a communist
Also which form of communism are you refering to there are multiple forms ?

>get bored
>go to /leftypol/ because why not
>it's ded as fuck

IM A CAPITALIST AHHHHHHHHHHHHHH

World engulfing empires assuming that your enemies are barbarians. No country ever captured all of Europe. They never engulfed civilized nations. It isn't efficient.

If you are referring to empires like the mongols and the Romans, they weren't feudal. Maybe the Mongols kind of were, but their empire didn't last that long.

they refute their own claims when they state Trump's pants are on fire because he doesn't parrot their negrophile stance on black/black crime.

>Why do you think capitalists love mass-immigration so much because it keeps wages low.
That doesn't mean that corporations benefit from immigration, the states that show the worst trends economically (per capita) are the ones that take the most migration. California is slowly becoming less profitable and shittier in every way. They are motivated by pressure from far leftists and using state wage subsidization (wellfare for illegals) to lower the wages. If leftists hadn't created the problem, it wouldn't exist.

>Capitalism works only with the state those elected often only sit within parliament to futher corporations while states bail out large multinationals
Nope, that's a stupid cliche and you neither care nor know how corporations use the state to their advantage (which is why you vote for social democrats).

There's cosmopolitan capitalism, nationalist capitalism, cosmopolitan socialism and nationalist socialism. Cosmopolitan socialism fails as hard as cosmopolitan capitalism.

Outsourcing is a failure of cosmopolitanism, not capitalism. Protectionism isn't necessarily against the free market, within your nation people still compete fairly and equally.

Capitalism is a pretty clear-cut ideology. No government intervention in the economy. Has been that way since 1776 when adam smith's book came out, has remained that way from the founding fathers to mises to milton friedman to andrew jackson/

Unlike your shifty-ass ideology that can't even decide what to name itself let alone what its "true correct values" are or how any of them are going be achieved.

Earlier posts aside: Only a fool would admit capitalism is good, but this coming from a former "socialist" (whatever that even means), a well regulated market-based economic system is the best choice (see how I dodged, I didn't actually say capitalism).

I have never experienced it otherwisem, the only exception is that I personally addtionally resent communism for being anti-white and (in the West) the vehicle for jewish supremacist seizure of state apparatuses.

No. Peasants owed everything to their lords and had worse living conditions

Capitalism knows no nation. It will always seek to expand outward to drive costs down. The only capitalism can be considered nationalistic is fascism, which relies on military conquest. Again, expansion outward to drive costs down.

But discussing all of this is futile. Capitalism as we know it is doomed because of automation.

Capitalism works perfectly well without government, any reduction in the government intervention in the economy will make it almost certainly better.

Nice to know that website is garbage. I'll click elsewhere.

>t. Person who has never read Wealth of Nations

Because, on the whole, Sup Forums is not mentally retarded.

>They are motivated by pressure from far leftists
Utter nonsense the number of those on the far left willing to use direct action against corporations within the United States is virtually null. Also you are linking those on the left as being supportive of immigration which again is a blanket statement. Corporations always profit from mass immigration

>Nope, that's a stupid cliche and you neither care nor know how corporations use the state to their advantage (which is why you vote for social democrats).
You haven't refuted my point also I don't vote for social democrats at all

>Only a fool would admit capitalism is good,
>- sent from my iPhone

your right

its real socialism :^)

>Not an argument the post

>Utter nonsense the number of those on the far left willing to use direct action against corporations within the United States is virtually null.
Incorrect, there is an enormous movement in the US to force corporations hire more non-whites. Corporations in the US either recieve support or resistance from the left depending on their stance on social issues. The Hobby Lobby is a christian corporation that refuses to finance the abortions of its female employees, and is therefore wildly hated by the left. Chicka-fil-a is against homosexual marriage and is therefore boycotted and lobbied against.

>Also you are linking those on the left as being supportive of immigration which again is a blanket statement
Bernie Sanders has dropped his stance against illegal immigration. The french socialist party told its voter to vote for the conservatives to prevent Front National from coming to power, because they are against mass non.white immigration to France. There are no leftists against immigration nor the dispossation of whites.

>You haven't refuted my point also I don't vote for social democrats at all
I assume your communist party is just an edgy social democrats party.

>Only a fool would admit Fedualism is good
>wrote on paper made by Fedualists

I can into strawman too

For the social democrats in this thread.

Can we use their logic?
Cause that would make things pretty easy.

But to indulge you: Politifact says that the factual information is correct, but the rhetoric that uses it is "false", but apparently using another form of rhetoric would make it "correct". It's pretty much self-refuting.

In essence, those are "mostly true" or "half true" according to the actual description. You simply cannot say that a statement has correct information, but is false.

He only did that in order to keep unions off his back.

True, but the unions were also threatening and killing the workers who didn't join the union (scabs).

The hate for unions over the MNCs is one of the best engineered societal trends I've ever seen.

Again your looking instead at the ideas of identity politics over those of economic regards Chicka-fil-a may indeed be boycotted against by those with socially lberal values but is this not a prime example of the kind of system in which capitalist love. The "freedom" to choose between which corporation in which you wish to buy from. In terms of the lobbying for non-whites this is a non issue when corporations wish to select immigrants as they are cheap labour in any regard. Business always chooses those who can work the longest hours for the lowest pay this is why they love 3rd world immigration.
> There are no leftists against immigration nor the dispossation of whites.
There most certainly was with the BNP but of course they where quickly regarded as racists by libertarians
>I assume your communist party is just an edgy social democrats party.
Again you haven't refuted my point

>guys porky isn't literally the same as le happy merchant i swear
commies are pathetic

capitalists*

Oligarchy masked as Capitalism/Democracy isn't Capitalism.

Big money gave us the comforts we have today. Unions are good, but I have capitalism to thank for my wealth.

Explain how a government worker selling private companies to foreign economies is capitalism.

Free enterprise and entrepreneurship is good.

Capitalism as it actually should be known as Usury/Economic Parasitism is bad.

Unfortunately the parasites have done well posing a false dichotomy between 'capitalists' and 'socialists'.

>Again your looking instead at the ideas of identity politics over those of economic regards Chicka-fil-a may indeed be boycotted against by those with socially lberal values but is this not a prime example of the kind of system in which capitalist love. The "freedom" to choose between which corporation in which you wish to buy from. In terms of the lobbying for non-whites this is a non issue when corporations wish to select immigrants as they are cheap labour in any regard. Business always chooses those who can work the longest hours for the lowest pay this is why they love 3rd world immigration
According to you capitalists love the social dynamics that gain them the most money and power, this wouldn't be it. Otherwise cultural marxism and other suck non-sense would not be funded at schools. A population of lazy hedonists is not the ideal society for production nor control, as such a population can't be controlled to produce great things. But, this style of reasoning shouldn't be taken seriously as it's a conspiracy-tard style of reasoning. It's a shame that this leftsist conspiracy style of reasonign has become mainstream. It's completely disconnected to anything.

>There most certainly was with the BNP but of course they where quickly regarded as racists by libertarians
So there was a right-wing party against non-white immigration. We remian with a anti-white left.

>Again you haven't refuted my point
You think there is a point to refute?

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it badly need communism as a counterbalance

and you know what?

fuck you!

> real capitalism has nevar been tried

When Leftypol admits a classless stateless society is an oxymoron.

desu if you triangulate the Jews from the right perspective and capitalists from the left perspective you find the cancer of the world

What even is this? Shitty globalists use THE GOVERNMENT to funnel wealth to their Jewish masters.

If the government is facilitating, manipulating, and outright controlling it, then IT ISN'T CAPITALISM! It is in fact closer to socialism you dumb fucking faggot.

> Somalia

Capitalism is bad like getting head from your best friend's kinky little sister is bad.

In other words, it's like a dream come true and only a complete faggot would say no.

>It's not muh special snowflake version of capitalism therefore it is not capitalism

no 'free' system will ever work imo, people on top are always corruptible. people need to be lead with an iron fist because as we a know the vast majority just agree with the narrative, take a shit once a day, and try to get by.
people are meant to live in small tribes where everyone knows each other, everyone empathizes with each other, and everyone works together. This is especially unattainable in the current ''multicultural utopia'' of today.
socialism cannot work in our society which is currently focused on proving to everyone else that you're less privileged and oppressed.
i wish i knew the solution.. but i believe likely we need to gas the kikes and race war now

It would be more accurate to say that it isn't a free market mechanism, meaning a capitalist function.

Using state intervention as the definition of capitalism is retarded.

>George Soros funds and installs the people who train, fund and direct ISIS
>lol good work Soros for helping to defeat ISIS

It's pretty fucking adorable how Leftypol tries to pretend that "porky" isn't just the fucking kikes, and then tries to talk about geopolitics while missing basic facts.

ISIS isn't "Jihadism," it's a CIA mercenary band destabilizing Russian allies in the region. And the reason why people are afraid of Muslim immigration is that they are racially displacing whites in Europe.

You'd think that the people who just got their teeth smashed out in America by the ignorant minority vote (Bernie Sanders literally lost because of the diversity vote lol) would be a bit more awake to the fact that their kike overlords are trying to replace THEM so that they don't have to deal with ideological Leftists anymore. Nonwhites are not capable of grasping enlightenment concepts, that's why they never built fucking civilizations.

Please return to reality, Leftypol. "Porky" owns you. You are not crusaders against the establishment, you are a psyop funded by globalist hedge-fund managers to bring about a bland,, soulless divided slave race that the oligarchy can rule in peace.

>Capitalism
>Darwinism applied to economics

>Communism
>"hurr free shit (but only for the politcal elite, the peasants get the scraps ;))

Somalia used to be a one part Marxist-Lennist state. Which is the period everything got fucked up and fell to civil war. No it is in a state of conflicting goverments feuding over land.
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Somali_Democratic_Republic

People should read up on the Grapes of Wrath. Not the book itself, but about the event surrouding it. The movie created a backlash on the USSR because it made the US look so much better than the USSR

>and had worse living conditions

Because you can buy Chocolate and Iphones?

groups.csail.mit.edu/mac/users/rauch/worktime/hours_workweek.html

Enjoy working 60-70 hour weeks for Mr. Shekelstein and the progress of (((Society))) that will gladly replace your whole kind for cheap laber from the 3rd world.

>bias.jpg
that can't be real

Never. But socialism turns to shit everything it touches.

I want capitalism within my own country. No more outsourcing labor or hiring illegals.

those are shitty sources in your infographic senpai