>snowden >leaks classified information of NSA, CIA, Liberty Crossing corruption, espionage and betrayal of US citizens >would get sentenced several times for life if caught and sent to Guantanamo bay
>hillary >leaks classified information which caused deaths of US soldiers, citizens, agents etc >"Oops, no problem Hillary, if you were someone else you would get sentenced for treason and sent to Guantanamo Bay for the rest of your life but that won't happen because you Hillary Fuckin' Clinton so laws don't apply to you"
First of all and foremost she didn't leak anything INTENTIONALLY. Second of all if she leaked anything it wasn't anywhere NEAR AS MASSIVE, third of all she stuck around to cooperate with the investigation, fifth of all her information was nowhere NEAR as critical to the lives of others as Snowden's was.
Your turn
Brody Allen
>hilary shills in bangladesh internet farm trying to damage control
Fuck off pajeet and go find a better job
Angel Torres
>her information was nowhere NEAR as critical to the lives of others
Top Secret/Special Access Programs are about as critical as you can get.
Ian Morgan
>hillary leaks....
Stopped right there. Shit analogy is shit. OP, please read sticky on first page and get a grasp of logical fallacies, then come back and post.
Jeremiah White
Nah it's cool, she didn't mean to. ;^)
Jack Howard
see >>>
Brody Wilson
>selling top secret information to Russia is the same as having a private server
Trumpfag logic.
Andrew Rodriguez
>Stopped right there
but she literally did leak information
the FBI said in black and white that "hostile actors gained access to her private servers" at some point
Nathaniel Ortiz
>only second post in and ran out of shit to say except some worn out meme
>third post isn't any better
Goddamn. I'd hate to be your brain using the computer.
Jordan Evans
>freedom* and justice** for all***
Evan Baker
>Goddamn. I'd hate to be your brain using the computer.
Hope you enjoy Hillary for 8 years
Justin Sanchez
Why the FUCK would you even care?
Austin Scott
>18 U.S. Code § 793 — Gathering, transmitting or losing defense information … (f) Whoever, being entrusted with or having lawful possession or control of any document, writing, code book, signal book, sketch, photograph, photographic negative, blueprint, plan, map, model, instrument, appliance, note, or information, relating to the national defense, (1) through gross negligence permits the same to be removed from its proper place of custody or delivered to anyone in violation of his trust, or to be lost, stolen, abstracted, or destroyed, or (2) having knowledge that the same has been illegally removed from its proper place of custody or delivered to anyone in violation of its trust, or lost, or stolen, abstracted, or destroyed, and fails to make prompt report of such loss, theft, abstraction, or destruction to his superior officer — Shall be fined not more than $10, 000 or imprisoned not more than ten years, or both. (g) If two or more persons conspire to violate any of the foregoing provisions of this section, and one or more of such persons do any act to effect the object of the conspiracy, each of the parties to such conspiracy, shall be subject to the punishment provided for the offense which is the object of such conspiracy.
Lincoln Hughes
That's not a leak you dumb faggot.
Samuel Baker
>gross negligence
So prove it then ass hat.
Camden Thompson
You've got that backwards, laddy.
Snowden's security clearance was inconsequential to the office of the highest diplomat in our government.
She fucked up but her buddy Soros is covering for her.
Easton Hall
This is seriously some banana republic shit.
This is how corrupt African governments are run.
John Garcia
You don't understand what leak means you mental retard, it doesn't have to be intentional. Kill yourself
Zachary Phillips
I hope you get a rare form of brain cancer and die a slow painful death.
Austin Sullivan
All I'm going to say is that I'm no longer following federal law. They've proven time and again their incompetance and willingness to selectively prosecute those in office to suit their elitist agenda.
Carson Russell
OH, I see, You want Hillary to go to jail for possibly leaking some shit unintentioally? Snowden too? but not Bush for dragging us into a fucking war causing how much instability in the Middle East? wasted how much money? caused the deaths of how many soldiers? under a FULL BLOWN FUCKING SINGLE STUPID LIE of Saddam Hussein being in control of WMDs?
William Mitchell
Not an argument
Brody Jenkins
She didn't intentionally leak anything.
She stashed all her shit away on a private server so that she could dodge FOIA requests and keep all her dealings secret. That alone is pretty bad but then she decided to totally ignore security concern. That basically means that any 12 year old who likes computers had the skills to access all the dealings of the US Secretary of State. General Hayden already said that he would lose respect for a lot of intelligence agencies if they didn't already have all her data. Shit, a random Romanian hacker has a ton of it.
Negligence and corruption like that would probably get you executed in some countries but this is the US so the media shills her to be President. If she wins, you're going to have a President on whom any intelligence agency worth a fuck is going have a blackmail file.
Have fun. With that.
Camden Hall
You literally just proved Clinton's innocence, thank you, come again.
>it doesn't have to be intentional.
Christian Rogers
because what you'll live come november, germans are living now
Cooper Ross
>American Jurisdiction everybody More like world wide jurisdiction. The only thing China does better than us is just executing some of those fucks every now and then.
Levi Hall
>First of all and foremost she didn't leak anything INTENTIONALLY. I disagree I think she did
>Second of all if she leaked anything it wasn't anywhere NEAR AS MASSIVE I would say it is considering the situation
>third of all she stuck around to cooperate with the investigation she obviously has the fbi on her side
>fifth of all her information was nowhere NEAR as critical to the lives of others as Snowden's was I say it was
CHECK AND MATE FAG
Jacob Richardson
What specific information was leaked that actually did lead to deaths of US citizens? Naturally the top secret stuff could have, but is there a case where it's confirmed?
Henry Moore
>Second of all if she leaked anything it wasn't anywhere NEAR AS MASSIVE,
how the fuck do you know that? how do you know the US isnt, at this very moment, fucked in some areas because some of these emails WERE leaked? besides, this shit allows any future spy plead negligence/stupidity
Jaxon Brooks
>implying you can unintentionally ignore security rules as secretary of fucking state
Jeremiah Carter
>but officer, i didn't MEAN TO break the law!
Josiah Roberts
>be working-middle class >do something careless >get a felony charge >be doctor >do something careless >lose license due to malpractice >be military >carelessly send classified and top secret information over a private email server >get court martial >be hillary clinton >carelessly send classified and top secret information over a private email server as Secretary of State, potentially sabotaging the defence of an entire nation >Federal Bureau of Investigation: "We recommend that no charges be made."
>america >land of the free
Colton Brown
Im fed up with the corruption on all sides. There is no fucking justice in the world anymore.This bullshit pretty much proves the bitch is going to be the next president.
Jayden Perez
>muh anecdotes >muh beliefs
We're talking about the legal system here, not arguing with your parents about being grounded this weekend.
Connor Fisher
So you're saying his country's situation is so bad he has no choice but to turn to American politics to bitch about things?
>I disagree I think she did
How did you come to this conclusion?
>I would say it is considering the situation
How did you come to this conclusion?
>she obviously has the fbi on her side
How did you come to this conclusion?
>I say it was
How did you come to this conclusion?
>inb4 your id is never seen again on this thead
Jackson Hughes
Literally prove it fags.
Jack Long
She sent top secret info over unsecured transmission 7 times. And less strictly classified info 2000 times. Fully aware that this info was classified. Anyone else would hang for it.
Brayden Reed
He did have WMDs, just not nukes
Dylan Jenkins
Snowden is basically Frank Grimes while Hillary is the Homer Simpson of politics.
>Oh what's this? I don't need to stand trial for committing treason because I'm Hillary Clinton >I've caused thousands of civilians, FBI agents and soldiers to die but nobody seems to mind because I'M HILLARY CLINTON >Hey Snowden, are you okay? Oh, I'm better THAN OKAY. I'm Hillary Clinton >Heh, you wish
Liam Ortiz
>So you're saying his country's situation is so bad he has no choice but to turn to American politics to bitch about things?
that's right, guess who made it that way
Connor Martinez
Employees of the Arts and Crafts Division of the Bureau of Indian Affairs can classify documents 'Top Secret'.
Robert King
OK, talk some sense into me. What WMDs that weren't nukes did he have?
Robert Edwards
0/10 negligence is a punishable crime. If i left a bear trap on my doorstep and the mailman got curious and it ate his hand I'd be held responsible to the degree where how much negligence was on his part for testing my trap.
Jeremiah Davis
See the point is even if she didnt mean too then she might be clinically retarded. Seriously she dosent know how to work an email account and she wants to be leader of america? No just fuck no.
Jordan Reed
this
Jaxson Murphy
THIS is the reason US founding fathers gave the citizen the right to bear guns
Jaxson Johnson
FBI traitor said it himself >To be clear, this is not to suggest that in similar circumstances, a person who engaged in this activity would face no consequences. To the contrary, those individuals are often subject to security or administrative sanctions. But that is not what we are deciding now.
Levi Anderson
Also, this whole thing may be part of a operation by the State Department to plant disinformation with 'hostile actors'.
Lincoln Gray
Thousands of chemical weapons. Which he agreed to hand over to the UN to decomision, but then changed his mind. Even the god damn NYT reported on it.
Carson Ward
Yes, negligence is a punishable crime. Do you know how hard it is to get a conviction for criminal negligence? Do you know how difficult it is to prove negligence?
Hudson Morris
>negligence is a punishable crime
It isn't always punished though. Negligence isn't the same as gross negligence. People make mistakes dumb fuck.
My point isn't that Hillary wasn't negligent. My point is that just because negligence was present doesn't mean you go to jail.
Adrian Jones
She shpuld at the very least lose her clearance and undergo complete reinvestigation and a full scope polygraph.
Easton Watson
Discredited by Hans Blix.
Jackson Robinson
Her actions themselves are criminally negligent.
Adam Lopez
Serious question user -
How does this not disqualify her from office?
Comy even said that were she a part of the gov now she would lose clearance.
Justin Sanders
You can't even count to 4, let alone make a solid argument. The information she leaked (maybe passively, but that kind of ignorance at her level of office is just as bad as malice, if not worse) was substantially more critical than Snowden's was. Her sticking around was her only choice, and her only logical option, as she knew she would never be punished. In Snowden's case, the opposite was true. He knew he'd be sentenced to life in prison or even execution if he had stuck around, so his only logical option was to flee.
Luis Price
Intentions are irrelevant when you do something you're told NOT to do and then information gets out.
The Director even said anyone else who did this would be in prison. She's being let off because of who she is.
Wyatt Murphy
Polygraphs are an urban myth, and do not work. That is why the results are unusable in court.
Justin Ross
The FBI and Department of Justice disagree with you. Maybe you should apply to join their legal team since you're so up to date on the justice system.
Zachary Turner
To be clear, this is not to suggest that in similar circumstances, a person who engaged in this activity would face no consequences. To the contrary, those individuals are often subject to security or administrative sanctions. But that is not what we are deciding now. Not what the FBI said.
Hunter Gray
She ACCIDENTALLY set up unsecured servers at home?
Christopher Perry
You have it wrong there friendo, we want them all to hang.
Noah Harris
That was the non-existent nuclear program. But we literally lost men recovering and destroying his chemical weapon caches.
Jaxson Anderson
We on the alt. right don't give a shit about Bush. He was another globalist.
Did you not see how we crucified Jeb?
Andrew Torres
She broke many laws, and all the rules of transmitting information. She allowed massive amounts of classified information to leak to our enemies through utter incompetence. I think you should go correct the record by shoving it deep up your dirty pussy :)
Anthony Howard
>she knew she would never be punished
Sup Forums knew she knew she wouldn't get punished? but Sup Forums didn't know she wouldn't get punished?.
Logically doesn't make sense to me.
Hudson Wilson
'Sanctions' is not a synonym for 'criminal'. Could be referring to a non-actionable letter of reprimand or just retraining.
Grayson White
The FBI disagrees because they are spineless traitorous faggots. By their own admission, choosing not to indict is not because she is innocent.
Nathan Perry
Still are standard procedure for security investigation.
Carter Perry
How does it feel to know that the Brazilian dept of federal investigation is doing more against corrupt politicians than the FBI Sup Forums? How does it feel to be humiliated like that?
Alexander Smith
Since you are innocent until proven guilty, not being able to get a conviction is the same as innocence,
Noah Gutierrez
Make way for the George Bush red herrings as if anyone on the alt right even liked him.
Sebastian Morgan
Wow look at this edgy little kiddo. 2 months of shitposting til you go back to middle school. Have fun!
Henry Butler
most of Sup Forums only believes your innocent if you're Republican.
Jace Barnes
They found a mountain of proof she's guilty, and outlined it for you. Choosing not to indict is purely political.
David Perry
Standard and still irrational. The machines would all be scrapped and operators charged with fraud in a rational society.
Gavin Rivera
>Sup Forums is one person
There's your flaw.
Everyone even remotely redpilled here knew she'd never be punished. Many hoped she would, but they failed to see how things really are. As I posted in another thread; once you reach a certain level in governance, you're basically immune. Lots of examples, even in the Netherlands.
Jonathan Stewart
>First of all and foremost she didn't leak anything INTENTIONALLY. You can't argue intent without first having a trial.
You don't 'unintentionally' set up an email server in your fucking bathroom.
Everything Hillary did was 100% intentional. But, since we won't have a trial, we're never really going to know for sure, aren't we?
Ryder Anderson
Source?
We dug up shit on the Republican candidates more than Reddit did.
Hunter Taylor
...
Christopher Baker
She deleted emails, that is by itself obstruction of justice. Negligence which was also cited is literally against the law.
Only reason why they aren't doing anything is because "no sane prosecutor would go forward."
Blake Butler
Nope faggot, left vs right is a falsehood to sell elitist globalism, get the fuck our of here with you political kindergarten
Lucas Brooks
Yeah she only sold it to Israel. Way better than that. Let's please ignore that she still stole classified information for use on her private server, which is a federal offense.
Climb up your fucking tree, leaf.
Joshua Morales
>she did plenty of things wrong but we're not doing anything about it
Your country is starting to look like mine
James Cruz
At the time the private server was set up it was not prohibited.
Jaxon Carter
>So prove it then ass hat. For one, the FBI council admits that she was grossly negligent.
For two, 'prove it' is something you could only legally do in a trial.
Which there won't be one.
So asking someone to prove it over the internet is retarded.
Oliver Wright
>First of all and foremost she didn't leak anything INTENTIONALLY. Intent doesn't make it less of a crime.
>Second of all if she leaked anything it wasn't anywhere NEAR AS MASSIVE >fifth of all her information was nowhere NEAR as critical to the lives of others as Snowden's was. People died.
Jacob Powell
This.
Hillary is a neoliberal. That is already bad enough.
Colton Gonzalez
Not according to this mornings press conference. Emails were lost in transfers. Happens all the time.
Samuel Howard
Who died?
Austin Barnes
>At the time the private server was set up it was not prohibited. Patriot act explicitly mentions this in writing
So no, her server was illegal the day she got it. And she had to know.
Juan Morales
>Lost in transfers >YOU CAN GO LOOK UP THE DELETED EMAILS ON WIKILEAKS
So is there a gun to your head to make you post such retarded shit or do you just have a vacuum-seal lock around Hillary's cunt?
Aiden Clark
ACCORDING TO THE PRESS CONFERENCE they are simply not indicting her because no persecutor would go forward, they admitted she broke the law, he literally said it, there are no excuses.
And the FBI traitor himself said that her lawyer DELETED emails, permanently. There is no way to know what was on them.
There was already a guy condemned because he fucking CLERARED his browsing history. How can you sleep at night while defending a fucking criminal?
Jose Cruz
Your cunt witch lied again? Wow, what a new occurence
Adam Scott
>First of all and foremost she didn't leak anything INTENTIONALLY. FBI found leaks, leakes happened and on a massive scale, intentionally or not does not matter. Treason is treason.
>Second of all if she leaked anything it wasn't anywhere NEAR AS MASSIVE, Words like Top secret and confidential make it sound that they were pretty important and she was also at the top of the tree when it happened.
>third of all she stuck around to cooperate with the investigation, Covering tracks and lying is not co-operation.
>fifth of all her information was nowhere NEAR as critical to the lives of others as Snowden's was. Depending what was leaked it could be even worse.
To a non-burger if she is still allowed to run for president and also escapes punishment does this just make a mockery of the highest seat in office considering full blown presidents have been forced to step down with threats of impeachment.
Camden Brooks
This fucking retard holy shit.
I've rarely seen such a low IQ person able to post on in the internet.
Robert Gray
Sooo. If I murder someone and say afterwards it wasn't intentionally I could get away with murder ? Cool.
Thomas Carter
>I've rarely seen such a low IQ person able to post on in the internet.
Is this your first day on the internet? What type of insult is this? What are you, you aren't one of us...SHILL!
Jaxson Hall
It's so easy to spot the shills because they actually think we support Bush