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>be german
>born catholic
>have to pay church tax
>leaving church cost money
>mfw

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>church tax

you have to pay 8% or 9% of your income tax again depending where you live in germany

>church tax
>leaving church cost money

wow, we are mostly catholic and the Tithe is voluntary in the local church.

>en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Church_tax
>mfw it's real

That's the saddest thing I've read in quite a while.

It was 30 Euros when i exited. No excuse to not do it.

Leaving the church is like 25 bucks. I saved more on my first income after I left.

Same here in America, tithe is voluntary, I do it becuz PROUD CULTIST.

Does the tax have anything to do with baptisms in hospitals and such?

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>Church tax
Well i guess you will accept jizya like normal then

Germany is such a horrible place.

i left the state church right after my first paycheck. just sent a letter and that was that

>it's a "Germans being fedoras" thread
sage

>10 years mandatory religion class in school
>mandatory events in the church
>church tax
>they have the nerves to hand around the bag where you can put in money if you want
yeah when I grew up 90% percent of the kids were either catholic or protestant
I have to look how much it is a guy from work told me it was 60DM when he did it. it's still not right to take money for that.

>It was 30 Euros when i exited. No excuse to not do it.

you guys are not tired of being cucked so much?

Sure its wrong but better than paying the church tax. The amount of money differs from state to state

>be Dane
>Born Protestant / atheist
>have to pay church tax
>leaving church cost no money
>mfw ill still gladly pay my part because I care for the old culture and churches

why the fuck do you have to pay for that shit

>tfw parents never bothered to even baptise me

enjoy hell

In Christianity you go to hell if you are not baptised?

do you know how much it is in BW?priests need money too

Provide empirical proof for hell. Protip: you can't.

Cuck.

Doesn't leaving it cost 20 bucks or so?
Obviously unacceptable but still a total no-brainer when compared to what you would have to pay to those traitors if you remained.

only if you know what hell and baptising is.

Does your country's church help refugees?

Sucks to be us allright

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Because the catholic church did a lot of lobbying to grant themselves special privileges.
Which is also one of the reasons why we have so many troubles dealing with Islam, those fuckers decided to have far reaching religious rights written into law, only that it applies to all religions.

yes. original sin. Augustine believed that the only definitive destinations of souls are heaven and hell. He concluded that unbaptized infants go to hell as a consequence of original sin

>priests need money too
How about they dont steal it then? Rely on voluntary payment for services or donations?

Not from BW

>mfw a /his/ mobileposter replies to me

>mfw some baltic pagan replies to me

>666
yfw in Poland constitution states caths supremacy

Sounds like a pretty shit god who would condemn an infant to eternity in hell for something it's not responsible for.

You have to be baptized by the Holy Spirit, not by water. Water just gets people wet. Baptism in Christianity is an outward profession of an inner transformation that has already happened, and is eternally secure with or without getting wet in public.

How am I responsible for what my ancerstors did?

Wew, my parents are religious and they did not even baptise me. In their beliefs I would go to hell for it. Seems silly.

Ok

no? why should they? Its not the danish church job to help refugees.

The danish church is there to marry and bury people mostly.

why? because I would not like to see old churches dating back to the middle ages crumble to dust?

I wouldn't mind that too much.
I mean, fuck the catholic church in Germany, they are heavily lobbying for open borders because then they can use all those volunteer cucks and still write bills as if they actually paid anyone to the state.
But a lot of people still feel the need for religion and if I have to pick one religion to live next to, Christianity is pretty high up on the list.

I don't know how much it is nowadays but the point is that you have to pay anything to do that is just robbery.
>pay money so you have to pay less money

the god set the rules. the funny part is that the baptisation clear you of any sin. so if one baptises now he may be absolved of any sin

Kek

At least it keeps the Church strong

Yeah, but I already agreed with you on that.
Still, paying 20 bucks once or paying way more every single month makes a huge difference.

caths churches are always local. our priests give a shit about refugees and even the pope

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Churches are supposed to be humble. Excess donations are to help the poor not bling out the church building. It's like you don't even know the character of Jesus.

nice pic, mind if I save it?

I'm gonna do it soon I just hope the Standesamt has tolerable opening hours.

20 bucks, left last February. One of the best decisions of my life.
I will also save more money on the long run with this.

The European churches are very beautiful though.

ok

>This tax was introduced by Adolf Hitler in 1939

kek

>Its not the danish church job to help refugees.

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Had to go to my local court to get out. Open till 16:00.

You do not have to pay anything.

It's not a obligation

I didn't know Germany was a religious state.

Kek at getting taxed by two different forms of government.

>baptisation clear you of any sin. so if one baptises now he may be absolved of any sin
repenting can clear you of sin, but it does not wash away ones inclination to do evil

it does not absolve you of future sins

>Jeebus wants me to go to church in a Wal-Mart and never build beautiful cathedrals that communities can become attached to
>monuments to god should not be shining examples of the love for art that he endowed on us as our creator
"no"

Christcucks BTFO again

The jews who wrote the Bible set the rules.

So are high priced hookers, but I'll take a humble faithful wife instead.

>CHURCH TAX
>FUCKING CHURCH TAX

Is your church state-ran?

fuck you bling the fuck out of everything
It's less Arabic that way

The Church and State should be separate

relax its only 30 euros if you leave the church, its propably some charge because of the work they have to do to get you out.

>implying I should care how nice a church I don't go to is.

churches are not wives though, they are buildings

>Feierabend 15:45
working hours always suck

Purgatory if I remember correctly.

Actually, in Germany you do. You also don't even actively pay it, it is directly subtracted from your wage before you ever even see the money so you can't refuse to pay it unless you are self-employed.

>monuments to god

Idol worship basically. The Church isn't a building, it's the people. Jesus doesn't give a damn about pretty buildings.

>implying communities need a building to become attached
>Christianity is about building a relationship with God, not a false idol(A fancy church, an altar, etc).
>The kingdom of God is not within one man nor a group of men, but in all men
>Your body is your temple, not some massive expensive wasteful chapel
>mfw my church is in an old furniture warehouse

Nope, but they love to suck some government cocks.

Daughter of a pastor in my city is a fullblown socialist piece of shit.
Pretty funny when you remember that the socialists hate the church.

No, you would take a cheap hooker instead.

That is the one which is sort of like hell but not permanent, yes?

>Haven't seen TV in 5 or 6 years
>Have no TV
>Have to pay TV tax every month

No, it's punishment for stupid faggoty fedoras that do things like leave the one true church of their ancestors so their children can be one step further to being good muslims in the future.

>Idol worship
>literally the worship of idols
>the same as monuments made for something or someone

Pitiful. I remember Germany has its Protestant and Catholic sections though.
So what is the purpose of the tax?

>The jews who wrote the Bible set the rules.
caths give a shit about the bible. especially OT.

>be Catholic
>apologize to gays
cnn.com/2016/06/26/world/pope-apologize-gays/
>wash refugee feet
>pray for illegals on the us-mexico border
>pray to Allah (according to Vatican II's Lumen Gentium Nostra Aetate Catholics worship the same God as Muslims)
>remember that according to pope francis, salvation comes not by works, but faith alone
(catholicnewsagency.com/news/full-text-pope-francis-inflight-press-conference-from-armenia-45222/)
>even though atheists can go to heaven
(catholic.org/news/hf/faith/story.php?id=51077)

Catholicism = tool to cuck goyim with

>state TV in Germany are the most well funded channels on the whole planet
>only produce shit
But those broadcasting fees for soccer games sure were worth it!

>MUH IDOL WORSHIP
>BEAUTIFUL HISTORIC BUILDINGS THAT PROVIDED A LIVING TO ARTISANS FOR CENTURIES ARE WASTEFUL

It's much easier to convince a christian into believing Islam than it is to convince and atheist to go back to his primitive roots.

>this pope
>"""""""""""" Catholic """""""""""""

>So what is the purpose of the tax?
It was introduced by Hitler, so probably just part of the price they named for collaboration with the Nazis.

They later kept it to "keep the church independent from politics", but they really just kept it because a tax that has been introduced will never ever be revoked again. Even when fucking Hitler himself signed it into law.

Based Hitler

Yes, he is. What Biblical teaching doesn't he follow?

>truck driver at work talks to me
>is already in pension but still works
>pension gets taxed again

>it's much easier to convince somebody with a strongly held belief system to adopt another belief system than it is to convince somebody with no belief system at all
"no"

>Intendanten

No one whorship a piece of stone.

Churches are a place to whorship God, not to whorship the materials that built the Church.

It's not a Church if you Church do not have a concept of Apostolic Sucession.

Not hell at all. Much less horrible.

But not baptised people stay there forever.

>repenting can clear you of sin, but it does not wash away ones inclination to do evil
>it does not absolve you of future sins
yes but baptism clears you of any sins without a need for any repetance. i heard a story about some medieval prince who wasnt baptised but heard about this rule. so he hired a priest who accompanied him all the time. When he was dying he baptised him and so cleared him of any sins.

Which is why the Jews did so poorly under Catholic rule and why the biggest European Nationalist groups are Catholic, right?

Well fuck that shit.
I knew the other countries have state-ran churches (such as Denmark) or give financial assistance (such as Switzerland). I had no idea Germany was fucking up so hard.

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>Provided a living to artisans
>Jewing the people out of their money
>Paying money to get into heaven

Yeah, they're a waste.

Who cares?

It's a great mistake that protestants commit is believing that whatever a Pope say is the law

>pension gets taxed again
actually they are not . pensions fees are not taxed initially

Well, someone has to pay for all the nu-germans, right?