Christian General /csg/ - Prayers for Philando Edition

I dedicate this thread to the glory and resurrection of Jesus Christ. All people are welcome here to discuss faith and the gospel among themselves, and the role the teachings of Jesus Christ can play to help shift western culture back towards sustainable values.

This is not a thread to debate atheists, or argue the heresy/legitimacy of various Christian churches.

This IS a place to answer questions from open and curious anons who see Christianity as a well worn path out of degeneracy. God loves you (Yes, you.) and wishes success and exaltation on all of his children.

Sup Forums is a powerful place with strong cultural influence, but also a place full of Judgement. I urge Sup Forums users who consider themselves Christian to consider Jesus teachings on judging others before shitposting. Through Christian morals and values, everything Sup Forums stands for and wishes for the world can be achieved. By coming together and making these threads regularly we can shift the negativity of this place and truly turn it into the "path of light."

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You think whats going on rn is just a setup of armageddon?

yes, but Jesus said the end was nigh, like 2000 years ago

I just wanted to say thanks to all the Christbros keeping these generals active. But the glory goes to Christ Almighty. Just a couple of things I wanted to confess/ask.

- How do Christians feel about the ongoing migrant rapes/coverups in Sweden? Will it be exposed?

- I'm having a tough time with porn. Particularly, I keep browsing naturism/nudism blogs. There are even ((Christians)) who apparently justify it biblically. Is it heresy?

- When will God punish evil and avenge the hurt?

And yeah, prayers for Philando. Idk how he was spiritually but hopefully he waa right with God.

Who here actual Christian/ former atheist?

He's wearing a nice crucifix here, so he was a brother in Christ unless it was just for show.

Christians (especially catholics) are touchy on the migrant crisis. On one hand, its our obligation to help the needy in the name of god, on the other hand, muslims especially the refugees are a very stubborn people who will not assimilate, let alone convert.

Depends on who you talk to. In my book, as long as any sexual acts don't involve actually doing it with someone else, its fine.

Yes, but the evil already willingly walk away from god, so it will be more like a "alright you can go now."

He most likely was non-religous, but a christian none the less.


Too bad he also affiliated with the Crips

>How do Christians feel about the ongoing migrant rapes/coverups in Sweden?

See, here is where most people including most (nominal) Christians just got immersed in the whole social liberal leftist extreme that minorities shouldn't be held accountable/ that they have no agency/ that it's all da whyte mans fault

I myself believe in equal condemnation and exposure for equal crimes. They have no excuse just because they're migrants

A rapist is a rapist. A murderer a murderer. And they all have to answer to God for their crimes

>I'm having a tough time with porn.

I struggle with this as well. Prayers that we both overcome.

I don't think it's a very serious sin, but it takes our time, attention, and energy away from leading more miraculous productive lives. It's an addiction like any other.

Oops, i didnt read when.

He's doing it right now

>(((Simon Peter))), the rock upon which (((Jesus))) built his church.

Abrahamic religions go home

Explain this then

I agree guys. It just bothers me that so much wickedness goes on and it seems to go on unpunished.

Then again, I must remember that God is in control.

yeah the dannebrog needs to go, too
I prefer the yngling lion

REKT

Are certain parts of the Bible supposed to be metaphorical?

Of course, a lot of it is metaphor and allegory

Why? when it's an integral part of your history

More like a danish thing that sweden and norway adopted because they were pretty much ruled by denmark and to show solidarity, ironic considering sweden and denmark were warring pretty much for a long period of time over land.

Indigenous (urfolk) culture first, foregin stuff last, including christianity

Does anyone here meditate? Meditation is mentioned multiple times in the bible so I'm curious.

I don't have a lot to contribute to this thread and am not a "good" Christian in any traditional sense. I ignore God sometimes, but I know He is present in my life. I sin my balls off pretty often, but I also try to let mercy and kindness into my heart too. Sometimes I try hard to do the right thing, sometimes I justify doing the wrong thing to myself. But God is real and He is love. Please keep these threads alive user, it feels good knowing you're out there. Go with Christ.

In the video he was clearly wearing red

1. Don't you have indigenous peoples in Scandinavia that are non-European (eg. Samis)?

2. Isn't paganism on the exact same level as indigenous African and American-Indian spirituality?

Mark 13:13 - And you will be hated by all for my name’s sake. But the one who endures to the end will be saved.

Hold Fast Boys

Is this the most try-hard shit on Sup Forums?

What's you're guys favorite bible verse

Here's mine

Blessed is the one
who does not walk in step with the wicked
or stand in the way that sinners take
or sit in the company of mockers,
but whose delight is in the law of the Lord,
and who meditates on his law day and night.
That person is like a tree planted by streams of water,
which yields its fruit in season
and whose leaf does not wither—
whatever they do prospers.
Not so the wicked!
They are like chaff
that the wind blows away.
Therefore the wicked will not stand in the judgment,
nor sinners in the assembly of the righteous.
For the Lord watches over the way of the righteous,
but the way of the wicked leads to destruction.

>hey, if people hate you, it just means you're right lmao

stunning prophecy!

Of course, but scandinavians have been here for what, thousands of years? Sami were here before technically but are recluses in the far north.

Not sure on what you mean by level. Paganism is dead and is never coming back since what we have is a poor reconstruction with a lot of holes in the knowledge we have about it. We do know a lot about their morality as told in the Håvamål though, where strength, courage, honor, independence was stressed. It's why they loved duels so much, because it was public and so in everyone's knowledge. Murder was a major taboo, not that it wasn't anywhere else, but because it was nonpublic and therefore hidden, cowardly and illegal, not because killing in itself was wrong. If satisfaction of honor was demanded and you didn't meet up you were a nithing which could make you ostracized. Basically the gods were just supposed to be a reflection of what is desired in norse culture.

There's probably a lot more, but åsatru isn't that much alike to the spirituality of native americans where they believed animals and other living things had spirits, though there are some similarities, like ancestor veneration. I don't know I could be talking out of my ass here

Is anyone here a traditionalist Catholic?

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>worrying about degeneracy
Sign of the narcissist who wants to preserve ideals that are ultimately contrived.
Acceptance of the natural ebb and flow of society is the only true path.
Suck my dick.

>Not sure on what you mean by level

In that they're basically Stone Age religions

How so? It's an indo-european religion sharing a lot in common with the greek and roman pantheon. It's just not as dogmatic and thoughtout as christianity and islam

I just wanna say god bless all of you anons

It used to be as dogmatic until you cucks turned Europe into a shitfist of secularism

Can non Christians still go to heaven if they are morally righteous and live a very Christian life, other than a lack of belief in Christ/the bible?

yes

t. dante

secularism is indeed bad. Blame the enlightenment

Also from a Christian perspective, can people still go to heaven if they have killed multiple people? What if it includes innocent people who were collateral damage?

Pretty sure they go to a very mild purgatory similar to Hades that is not paradise or hell, and when Jesus comes again he makes a stop there and gives everyone one last chance to hop in the salvation-mobile

I am the way, the truth, and the life. No man comes to the Father but through me. (Jesus)

i.e. Jesus Christ is the only way to Heaven. No good works will get you there.

But then again, the >secularism meme

Reposting from /his/:
Pic related (I couldn't find a good picture) is one from the Middle Ages that shows the "teaching of the two swords". It's a philosophical idea which states that Christ handed two swords to the worlds leaders, a temporal sword to kings and emperors and a spiritual sword to popes and bishops. The idea behind this (though factually some friction always remained) was that kings and emperors had supremacy over worldly affairs while popes and bishops had supremacy over religious affairs, and neither could wield any power over the other's fields.

The distinction between divine and profane, spiritual and temporal, even appears in the Pauline epistles. Or what about the actions of Jesus, who according to New Testament canon never held a political office and told his followers to render unto Caesar what is Caesars? The Enlightenment did not split church and state as much as Christian doctrine separating Church and State allowed the Enlightenment to happen. It's very popular to say that Islam needs an Enlightenment, but that's literally impossible due to the very nature of Islam. It cannot be disconnected from the political reality without being discarded wholesale.

And then there's also the fact that Christianity never (at least canonically) had a superiority complex. The New Testament constantly states that none are without sin and that we are saved by grace, not by our own deeds. Even the "gospel in a nutshell" (John 3:16) emphasizes God's love for humanity as a whole (compare Islam that constantly states Allah does not love the unbelievers).

It's a fundamental difference between the religions. The cultures did not shape the religions, but the religions shaped the cultures. As long as Islam exists, it cannot go forward. It can only go backwards.

>can people still go to heaven if they have killed multiple people?

I'm pretty sure some old saints were literal murderers back ini the day.

Which would be fine. At least there would be evidence of existence as Christ that I could embrace.

He's not affiliated with crips

Why would God reward the wicked and punish the righteous when insufficient evidence exists to accept such beliefs? Why would God give us the capacity to reason if he didn't want us to use it and therefore reject blind faith?

I praise only kek

who is righteous? only Jesus
that's why we need him

Good to know, thanks. Though I think there's a difference between killing and murder. It wouldn't be murder when the government gives you the go ahead to decide whether to blow a building up that could and did have kids inside. But regret still exists

>Christian doctrine separating Church and State allowed the Enlightenment to happen

The thing that separated Church and State (AGAINST the wishes of the Church, who was at war with the faction that was trying to bring about this change), in Europe, was called the French Revolution

The terms "Left and Right-wing" came about in those days. And the Right wing (which was threatened by the revolutionary left) was the Clergy (whom was perceived to have too may privileges in taxation and land ownership) and Noblemen

> It's very popular to say that Islam needs an Enlightenment, but that's literally impossible due to the very nature of Islam. It cannot be disconnected from the political reality without being discarded wholesale.

See "The Arabian Peninsula before the Mongol, trauma-inducing invasions"

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Islamic_Golden_Age

>It cannot be disconnected from the political reality without being discarded wholesale.

It could be disconnected if the Arabs et al. had any intention to disconnect it. The problem is we've been forcing them to do something they'd have to seek and initiate themselves

>The cultures did not shape the religions, but the religions shaped the cultures.

Kind of both though. You trying to sound meaningful doesn't add anything to the picture

One could argue that living a Christian life makes you more righteous than those that don't, but rather think only about themselves. Yet it seems they would be accepted into heaven before me?

the only way to be saved is to accept Christ as the only and suficient saviour of your life, but you will be in heaven with people who you think are 'less' than you, so think wisely lol

Throughout every Islamic caliphate, the religion was inevitably tied to the state. To separate the two would require a massive liberalization

Whoa there America. No one needs liberalisation here

hello

I don't think they are less than me. If you establish criteria for righteousness from the bible, then you can measure how righteous someone is from a Christian perspective. Then you could objectively state whether someone is more or less righteous. That doesn't make anyone better or less though.

so what's your point

Point being is why would God require blind faith above any other measure? Why would he give us the capacity to discern facts from fiction and weigh evidence to form conclusions if he didn't want us to use it? And if he did want us to, why is their a resounding lack of evidence to support the Christian account of history and beliefs? Thanks

>why would God require blind faith above any other measure?

Because no matter how much knowledge He would give you to examine, you can always find excuses to completely distrust it

The point is only God is perfect, we can never achieve that on this earth. He sent his Son to die for us, and rent that Holy of Holies curtain from top to bottom, showing that he abolished animal blood to cover up our sins for a small time, and shed His own perfect (was fully human and fully God at the same time) blood to cover everyones sins for all time. That doesn't discount that we have to come to Him and accept him as our savior knowing that only He can do that. That he died, was buried and rose again.

That being said, it doesn't change the fact we are still sinful humans. While he paid the price it doesn't stop us from giving into sin (again we are imperfect). Usually the getting saved part changes who you are as a person. Those who say they accept Christ but never truly change anything, maybe you have to question their truthfulness there. Some get saved and live for Christ hardcore, but fall away into sin (and He will always forgive) ... but either way a person being saved is their personal thing. Nothing can take salvation away, but those that are truly saved aren't usually going around killing people or being degenerates lol. Exceptions to every rule though. All of that still doesn't change the fact only through the faith in the perfect blood of Jesus Christ can anyone be saved and be with Him in heaven.

>- How do Christians feel about the ongoing migrant rapes/coverups in Sweden? Will it be exposed?
It's a disgusting betrayal of the innocent people of Sweden.
>- I'm having a tough time with porn. Particularly, I keep browsing naturism/nudism blogs. There are even ((Christians)) who apparently justify it biblically. Is it heresy?
It's heresy. Keep modesty
>- When will God punish evil and avenge the hurt?
Every man will be judged according to his works upon death. Any salvation will be as though by fire.

That's not true at all. One should weigh all the evidence and accept the best hypothesis/conclusion or identify the most likely conclusions, while rejecting ones proven false. As such, there would be no legitimate reason to reject the Christian version of God if God presented the evidence adequately.

Jesus did and people killed him

The virtuous pagans could definitely have received the Kingdom of God according to the early church fathers, and invincible ignorance is a doctrine of the Church. It's plausible, but not guaranteed. Better to share the gospel to better their odds.

Okay. But being a good person alone wouldn't constitute an exception as to who gets into heaven. That's disappointing because I don't believe I can embrace a blind faith in anything

>scientific methods of knowledge

Tell me something. Is anything in science deemed to be absolutely true?

But according to Christianity, he went to heaven. If such a standard applied to him, why shouldn't it apply to me?

Because there are no other prophecies that need to be fulfilled that Christ has not already

he's the son of God, why is weird when one son visit his father?

No. That's why you attempt to disprove perspectives. If only one possibility remains, it must be true. In reality though, that's difficult, so instead one should accept the conclusion with the best evidence but reassess based on new, incoming information

>2016
>not realizing the only way to bring back Christ is to meme him into existence

why is Jesus not a meme yet? come on guys pretty simple.

I thought he was God in the flesh?

>one should accept the conclusion with the best evidence but reassess based on new, incoming information

Does something become more true the more evidence you find to support it?

kek

it's complicated to explain

Hello sir, I have a true question here
Is there any proof of Abraham's existence?
I'm a Christian btw but I saw in a video that there are no proofs for his existence, as well as Solomon and some others, in the video they said (probably kind of ironic/comic) "you just got to have faith.

Which is reasonable, but there is no evidence I'm aware of legitimizing those. If so, I'd be happy to examine. What evidence exists today that legitimizes the Christian version of the world besides blind faith

I would be incredibly fucking surprised if they found archaeological evidence of a single man that far back. Patterns of Evidence offers some evidence for Joseph (with the coat) having existed though, and he's a descendant of Abraham.

Itbecomes more likely to be true relative to alternative perspectives, yes. Assuming, of course, that evidence for alternates remain the same

It's not a blind faith, but for some it comes easy for others it's definitely difficult. Best thing I can say is read the Bible (New Living Translation is nice cause it reads real plain and not old style) maybe look up the Romans Road on google and follow those verses. Galations and Ephesians are good too. New Testament is just good in general lol.

This God, is a God that was, is and is to come. He is literally outside of time. No way to comprehend that, yet the Bible though taken down by man is the inspired Word FROM God. He gave it to these men to write down so we could all benefit. (I mention New Living since I have read that it's pretty close to original text). I just love that to my knowledge, the only religion whose God made himself human ... literally became his own creation and walked among us ... is Christianity. Jews may be His chosen peeps, but he still included all in his plan for saving us. Also they recorded seeing and touching Jesus, and hearing God's voice speaking about Jesus. No other text in any other religion speaks of that (again to my knowledge). He's something special for sure.

The empty tomb, witness and martyrdom of the apostles, and sudden explosion of Christianity in the place where Christ was executed are all baffling together in a non-Christian worldview.

Thanks
Also idk how to reply correctly :^)
sorry :^P

Meant to say seeing and touching Jesus after his resurrection, my bad

Christianity is less of an epistemology than it is an absolute system of morality

I would advise to not treat it as a science

But you can always google what you want to know about the prophecies. They can't be all blind faith

Thanks for the sources. I'll look them up tomorrow. Take care

The Bible has some shockingly coincidences with what's happening today right? I mean, interpretation can be either good or bad but that's it, it's not an exactly clear word, after all why would we need to have faith if everything can be proven?

>It becomes more likely to be true relative to alternative perspectives, yes.

Relative truth, exactly. Nothing to do with being able to find absolute truth (God)

>Assuming, of course, that evidence for alternates remain the same

Why would you assume this without any evidence?

I cannot stop watching porn, someone help

Christianity is basically a how to on how to keep society from completely imploding in on itself. I'd bet many senior clergymen/bishops who haven't been jewed are agnostic at best, that's why they constantly research christianity and challenge it. It's basically the antidote to the Prideful, Matriarchal society Judaism promotes.

Just google wikihow man

kotaku.com/pokemon-go-is-sending-lots-of-players-to-church-1783279425

Pokemon getting these Neets to go to church.

There's proof of Solomon's Temple as far as I know, proof of Pergamum (spoken of in Revelation -and some VERY interesting stuff on that). As for proof of people? I doubt there's a definitive way to know even from bones as I don't know how they would determine that kinda dna. Though, if you're Christian and believe the Bible is true, dealing with the genealogies and such I guess you'd just take it as truth. I believe it cause everything in the Bible really tends to correspond with other historical accounts. Daniel predicts Alexander the Great doesn't he? (I haven't read that in a while though so don't quote me lol)

I want to be Christian, but I can't reconcile my racist beliefs with it. What do I do? Genuine question.

Prayers you overcome.

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A true rational man will normally search for the truth and always thrive to do the best/good thing, that's what most catholic scholars did back in the day. But the bad fame came upon them like many prejudice.

All knowledge is relative in the pursuit of absolute truth. Currently I dint think man is capable of understanding absolute truth, but we can get closer to it.

Thementioned assumption was a caveat forthe statement. If evidence on support of one conclusion emerged at the same time as evidence for a mutually exclusive alternative, then you need assess both

Ty for your answer