Do you approve Russian annexation of Crimea?

Do you approve Russian annexation of Crimea?

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I don't care

Crimean question has a long history, I recommend you read about it on Wikipedia. TL;DR: it started way back in the '90s and in 1995, Crimea ALMOST joined Russia. Except Yeltsin was busy with other things.

IMO, the return of Crimea to Russia was long overdue, I also wish it happened diplomatically. Alas, the actions of Ukraine simply left no choice to Russia. If we had left Crimea, our fleet would get fucked, the Russian population of the peninsula would definitely get oppressed, and of course, we'd potentially get NATO in Black Sea "suppressing Russian aggression".

I personally hold no grudge nor any feelings for that matter for Ukrainians over the question.

It's like in the 19th century.

its rightful russian clay. amerifats needs to understand this

>Do you approve Russian annexation of Crimea?
Nice loaded question.

Crimeans joined Russia out of their own volition. Annexation is a US MSM meme and you know who is behind that :).

>joined Russia out of their own volition

This phrase has a long and interesting history by itself if you understand politics in this part of Europe throghout the years.

It's full of Russian-speaking Russians so it's effectively never stopped being a part of Russia

Yes.

Crimea is rightful Russia Clay and would have been transfered back to Russia after some time but when the ussr fell apart it never really happened.


Next stop might be lughansk and donetsk

You forgot to add that most of the Crimeans consider themselves Russian. The whole area used to feel like just a big Russian resort

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Annexation simply means transfer of territory. "Invasion" would be a loaded term.

I'm glad you got it before those Ukie Jews joined NATO/EU. To think, the frontline has gone from Trieste to the Donbass and yet Russia is the aggressor, according to our media.

I wish your country great prosperity, my friend. As we speak the same jews sanctioning Russia are also deflating the pound, because we dared to leave the Marxist EU.

If you approve Crimean annexation you approve the independence of Kosovo, it's the same principle

Nope, it's rightful Ukranian clay

Every inch of Ukraine and Belarus is rightful Russian land, with the possible exception of Lwów and Stanislawow, Bessarabia, and Transcarpathia. Russia has every right to press its borders to that point.

Crimea:
>russian majority land that was only given to ukraine as a tedhnicality, at a time when ukraine and russia were literally the same country

Kosovo:
>Another muslim shithole brought about as a result of centuries of Ottoman oppression of European people who succumbed to stockholm syndrome

Yeah, no, it's not the same principle at all.

>Russia taking its rightful land is the same as giving away a piece of Christendom (that originally got its name from the sheer number of churches that existed there) to the shitskinned Islamic horde

Kosovo was always Albanian. Albanians lived there before the Serbs.

ott. hey, do you know the title of the soviet children song about the evil chechen? how is it called?

best wishes

Albanians were Christian before the Turks subjugated them.

I think you may be a little biased here seeming how your country went from one of the most powerful forces in Europe to a sorry piece of shit that got divied up two or three times, can't catch up to western europe and blames it on communism. Communism fell 25 years ago, stop the memes fgts.

Crimean people voted to join Russia, they had a referendum. US elites didn't like it so they caused Russia some grief. No biggie, they'll recover and be stronger.

To add to this, I'd say liberal media has distorted the truth significantly regarding 2 key points.

First, Crimea joining Russia is not expansionist politics. Crimea was a long overdue territorial dispute, a painful heritage of inept Yeltsin government. Fear mongering tirades like "Baltics are next" are silly at best. I understand perfectly well that Baltics hate Russia with every fiber of their being; but it's just lunacy to assume Russia wants to invade the region.

Second, despite I realize there have been numerous treaties and formally Crimea had been a part of Russia, let's face it—with a referendum, Crimea would vote to join Russia anyway. The majority of people living there are Russian—not Ukrainian. It's always been this way (even in 1921 Russians accounted for 49,6% of people living there). Crimea is central to Russian history and the only reason it somehow got attributed to Ukraine is Khrushchev's highly controversial decree making the region a part of Ukrainian SSR.

Thanks

>Kosovo and Metohija was 2% Albanian before the Ottoman conquest (and these Albanians were Christians)
>Over time, Albanian settlement increased because they were the toppest cucks of the T*rks, and the T*rks rewarded them
>HURR KOSOVO IS ISLAAAAMIIIICC

>Fear mongering tirades like "Baltics are next" are silly at best.
Aren't something like a quarter of Estonians Russian, particularly on the border?

Yup. Actually most Albanians were evacuated to Sicily by the Pope back in the day. The people who remain are not of European stock.

they should start grabbing more land over that way. Sweden and Finland since they are handing it over to niggers and rabs

There is no annexation what so ever.

Crimeans are 95% ethnic russians, they voted according to international law subjugated by United Nations human-rights, you can google this stuff.

Crimea was given away and separated from Russia illegally by former president of Soviet.

Crimea was always Russian.

Whats though is a true annexation are zionist americans having 1200+ military bases far outside their boarders, and actually the biggest annexation or that of North America, not to speak of 150 million dead native americans.

So check yourself, before u wreck urself boh

Doesn't affect me. But I would worry if I'm one of those female defense ministers.

How can russia annex its own provence?

Really? I had no idea. I knew some Albanians and Greeks were in Sicily but I had no idea why.

U stupid ass lithuanian, you know literally fucking nothing about geography or history.

Kosovo was ethnic serbian before muslim invasion.
Just the same as Baltics are actually belonging to Russia.

Hahaha

Always has been Russian clay. My family has been here since the 16th century as least. Majority here is and always has been Russian.

It is not, that's a meme created by delusional diaspora. If anything turks are basically greeks and armenians who were turkified as east asian admixture was miniscule.

With the same process, some settlers in balkan converted to islam one way or the another genetics remained same they did not teleported from sandniggeristan.

take a look at genetical similarities between christian-muslim albanians, or even turks to armenians or turks to greeks

Thank you for your support. I in turn wish prosperity to the great people of Britain and hope for future cooperation between our countries. Personally, as I said, I wish the whole story with Crimea wouldn't come down to a big conflict. Alas, I guess it was then or never.

I guess so, but of course it must be said that a lot of Russian people wound up there in USSR times. Which means Estonian people had no say whatsoever in this, and Soviets also liked forced relocations of people quite a lot.

Absolutely no one in Russia thinks Estonia is a part of Russia, or that conquering it would be a great idea. Except maybe for some retarded minority ultranationalists like Dugin, which hold as much power as flat-earthers.

What's an albanian? never heard off such things, always thought the area inbetween greece and serbia was a province on roachistan.

Could there ever be a merger between Belarus and Russia?

Genetically, Turks are not the same as Greeks. Turks are unique, in the same way the Hungarians are.

they are in a state union since about year 1920.

I want serious answers, cuck.

it's muslims there (ottoman empire) but many are still in exile in different place

militarily russia must seize it in self-defense anyway
so yes.
the only reason anyone here cares is because the coldwar fucks are still hatin on russia and trying to cause another fullblown coldwar

they be trying mighty hard there too, right shill?

Hell yeah, fuck them.
cheeky cunts.

It's true; I guess the following a fitting comparison: Crimea was our California/Florida. A big resort region for the whole USSR. Plenty infrastructure still left there. Of course in USSR it wasn't that important if it was Ukraine or Russia. But Khruschev's "gift" backfired in the '90s.

In 2004, I heard the news that allegedly, Russia and Belarus were to have one currency. But I guess the initiative was abandoned over time.

Still, it goes without saying Belarus are our closest allies. Different country, but our trade relations are very close.

What I think is, Russia agreed not to interfere in Ukraine politics when Ukraine gave up it's nukes. Russia has interfered with Ukraine's politics, so Ukraine should be given some nukes to use as it pleases.

Hell no. Crimea is Ukrainian soil.

It belongs to Ukraine. Will they get it back? Probably not. What I really don't approve of is their activity in Eastern Ukraine.

>95% ethnic Russian

gee I wondered how that happened. Thanks Stalin.

Do you feel dissatisfied with Russia's current borders?

I hear the president of Belarus is trying to revive/invent a "Belarusian" language, because he resents the fact most of the citizens there speak Russian.

I mean, it's not important, the entire region is a literal nuclear wasteland, it would be of no economic value to Russia.

Ummm sorry I don't. The closest thing I've googled is Lermontov's line "злoй чeчeн пoлзeт нa бepeг".

What's a Ukraine?

Alright, serious question:
What's the difference between a plebiscite and a referendum? Everything I've read from the 1950s until as far back as like 1850 refer to country-wide votes of territorial change as "plebiscite", but now they call it referendums.

They're synonyms, or nearly so. "Plebiscite" more heavily implies that the decision is final, whereas "referendum" implies that the result is advisory. In the modern world there isn't much difference.

> Literally the biggest country in the world
Not really.

Borders are borders. Nations are nations. Jews claim otherwise. But Russians are some of the most anti-semitic people in the world.

You've got a point.

U uneducated cuckface.
Belarus and Russia is basically the same country, they are in a State Union and have been so for nearly 100 years.
Belarus is a meme country.
After dissolving Soviet Union Belarus voted to stay with Russia.

There is the Belarus Ruble, they have their currency etc and laws, but are very heavily influenced by Kremlin and allied with Russia.
Its the same people, mentaility, ethnicity, religion, etc, everything is the same, a state union for 100 years.

Free movement, no boarders.
One would technically cross the boarder leaving Belarus and going into Russia, but one wouldnt notice any difference what so ever, from any parameter.
So in reality, its nearly the same country as possible.

The strong took from the weak.
It's sad the ruskies had to use such underhanded tactics but ehhh it worked I guess.

Yes. It's historically Russian, tied to access for their own navy, the only issue has to do with an illegitimate bankster government in Ukraine attempting the continue the destruction of Timoshenko, and we would do worse in the same circumstances.

>he stammered after furiously flipping through his JIDF notebook
Also I'm talking about legalities, not culture.

yeah, setting up a puppet state, which decides to join another country... we did that in 1920 with our glorious Republic of Central Lithuania.
we invented that shit nigga

You see, the way I see it: Putin is not actually interested in creating some "great Russia".

You may ask what the fuck is his problem in nearby regions. I'll tell you exactly: the outside threats. First is NATO which spreads like a disease and tries to get as close as possible. Second is slimes. That's why we've had Chechen war: because if we didn't control it, we'd get a terrorist breeding ground really soon.

Belarus is just our friend. An ally. Putin is quite content with that. Putin is also quite content when a country doesn't turn into one big NATO rocket base.

We'd be fine with Ukraine if they weren't hell bent on their revenge to Russia.

>Russians are some of the most anti-semitic people in the world.

Really? Maybe its because I live in New York where most Russians are also jews who ran away from home, but I never thought Russians were antisemetic. Dont you also house a very large jew population?

How do you feel about Gorbachev and the USSR in general?

The US agreed not to interfere in ukraine's politics, and then interfered in those politics even before they started the coup in the country

However, american government isn't as stupid as aussies, neither the US nor russia wants ukraine to have nukes

I may be wrong here, but I think "plebiscite" was just a soviet term of the same meaning. After 1991, all Soviet jargon was replaced with more "democratic" European analogues.

>Dont you also house a very large jew population?
Nothing will make someone more antisemitic than contact with a Jew. Look at the most anti-semitic people on the planet, the Palestinians.

JIDF?
Im not fucking shill u retard.

Legaility? STATE UNION, do u know what it means?
Have u ever been to Europe? European Union are all State Unions basically.
They have their own currecny, laws, flags, but still coincide all the time.

The States in US, different laws in different areas, but still the same.

>all that nonsense
yeah, you're a zionist

>Every inch of Ukraine and Belarus is rightful Russian land
It's not. Crimea - yes, but not those countries who have their own nations and cultures. In fact, they've been at war with Moscow throughout their whole history until Russian Empire finally conquered those territories in 18th century. They didn't manage to destroy the nations though

Also, to add to this: I honestly think that suppression of culture/language in USSR was just harmful. I support Belarus people in restoring their national identity. I don't think it's "bashing" Russia, I think it's simply the case of a nation restoring its culture and identity from communist times.

>not those countries who have their own nations and cultures.
Name a single practical difference between Belarusians, Russians and Ukrainians. The east slavic people are extremely similar, lingustically, culturally and ethnically.

You've heard complete bullshit m8. Belarusian president is the most pro-soviet and pro-Russian president in ex-USSR region

hahaha lol no fucking zionist
not sure if trolling, but whatever man, lets be rational here and keep to the topic thx

Honestly, I would consider Belarusians comparable to Russians. Its like the UK, Russia is England, Belarus is Scotland and Ukraine is Ireland.

>annexation
reunification

>but one wouldnt notice any difference what so ever, from any parameter

They might be synonyms in some languages, but in other languages (like Polish) a plebiscite is when people living in a disputed territory vote on which country they want to belong to.
So the Crimean referendum would be actually a plebiscite.

Nah, It's true. They're trying to revive a dead language solely to not be Russia.

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Belarusian_language#2010s

>argumentum ad ignorantiam
The sole fact that they are widely recognized as separate nations is enough to consider them separate nations.

What are the difference between Dutch, Belgian and Swiss? They're extremely similar, linguistically, culturally and ethnically.

There is nothing to revive. These days Belarusian language is in the worst state since the split of Rusian language to Russian, Ukrainian and Belarusian. And it's only because the current government systematicaly trying to erase it since 1994 when they came to power

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pamyat

You don't even even know how deeply the hatred for jews lies in Russian nation.

Yeah you're pretty much spot on. But nations should be respected. People kill over it.

In any case, no one in Russia seriously thinks there's much point in it. Belarus voted to be separate, they got it, we respect it. We won't gain much from them joining us.

Crimea is as much russian as it is ukrainian, and tatar, and lithuanian and german and estonian etc. etc.

>As of 2016 there are no Belarusian language universities.[38]


Please.

They are trying to save the language from extinction, and that is a rather noble act.

But getting 90% of the people to switch in modern time ? Not going to happen.

I do support their decision to save the belarus language, they should even teach it in schools.

>german
>lithuanian
>esthonian
what

Migrants. A lot of them.

My grandma lives in Crimea.

Found the khokhol

Not sure about Germany and Estonia (lol), but by Lithuianian he probably meant the times when Ukraine was under the rule of Great Duchy of Litva. But the Crimea itself never was the part of it

Slavs killing and invading inferior Slavs.

Why should anyone care?

Well said, inferior Scandinavian.

Anything that makes the jews and their amerifat puppets mad is something good for the world.
Russia defeating USA and ending their world hegemony when?

Hah, first off the Dutch and Belgians are not the same lingustically, secondly the Flemish region is currently seeking unification with Netherlands, so you just proved my point.

They are solely different countries due to Gorbachev.

no because 1994

thank you inferior mutt

I understand it even if I can't fully approve actually annexing the region for obvious reasons. I've visited it twice before the Soros funded Ukraine crisis and the people there always said they are russian not ukrainian. It's in stark contrast to western cUckraine.

That said, considering the strategic importance of Crimea as the base for the russian black sea fleet it's absolutely vital. There was no way they could've just let the US-neocon picked government dismantle the russian presence there.

Had the "shadow government" in the US not wanted these problems in Ukraine none of them would've come about to begin with, so if I had to answer a simple do I approve or not, then I would have to say I approve.
Fuck Nuland. Fuck Pyatt. Fuck Breedlove. Fuck Soros. And most of all fuck all the merchants they installed to run Ukraine.

Would Finland be able to defend itself from a Russian invasion like it did in the winter war?

In a nutshell, I think USSR was an authoritarian state with failed planned economy and also failed leftist ideology. From the '60s it became apparent that proletarians as "revolutionary class" had more reasons to revolt living in USSR than in US, ironically. That's all you really need to know about the allmighty teaching of Marx. Also, I don't really like to talk about humanitarian values and all that, but at times when the world was changing, Soviets put painfully little value to human life, much less so than "capitalist" countries.

As for Gorby, he had good intentions, but he completely ignored the fact that the country was on a brink of hunger, with literally empty shelves in groceries; thus he is widely hated, as he pushed his new democratic ideals with the same disregard for basic human needs as Soviet leaders before him. Putin was pretty much the first Russian leader to change it.

True Crimeans are Tatars. It is eternal Cuman clay.

Slavshits are just visitors.

They'll be removed once again and eradicated soon. Be patient.

Fuck Putin.

Fuck his black sea fleet

Fuck his naval base

Fuck his faggot ass

>Do you approve Russian annexation of Crimea?
Will they annex the Baltic states

Poland and Russia should stop fighting and share Ukraine 50/50.