>"The world's smartest man poses no more threat to me than does its smartest termite"
How does this make sense? He was a man once and not even the smartest one, thus proving man can achieve godlike powers. Or is he saying even a second Dr. Manhattan cannot harm him?
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If someone recreated the Dr. Manhattan accident they would no longer be a man. Until they surpass humanity they might as well not even exist to him.
Why didn't the government try to make more dr.manhattans
Most people can't reassemble themselves from the molecule up.
He probably understands that his ability to reconstitute himself was only because of his history as both a scientist and a watch repairsman combined with a freak accident and that it just isn't going to happen again.
you just have to round up all the watchmakers and force them to interbreed, then take their children and teach them physics and basic anatomy
He seemed smart before but did he become smarter after the accident?? Or did he just know the future???
Was there any way to stop Dr Manhattan?
Also, what would you do if you were him?
He's basically omniscient
Even humans can block his vision of the future with their tachyon research. If another godlike being came into power he'd probably be able to mask it so dr. manhattan can't kill him in his crib.
>Was there any way to stop Dr Manhattan?
stop him from doing something he wants to do? No. But Ozymandias managed to stop him from finding out his plans
>Also, what would you do if you were him?
probably the same, I'd get bored after a while and fuck off to space to become god to some primitives
Reminder that DC has decided to bring Watchmen into the normal DC canon and are making Dr. Manhattan a villain
if he's so powerful why can't he change his brain structure so he'd more happy? he could literally live in a state of eternal whole body orgasm
daily reminder: No One Reads Marvel crap
Stop as in killing him. could he rape any women he wanted and rule as a god emperor?
New Marvel and DC comics suck, user.
yes. That's more or less the theme of Injustice. But there is some Batman plot armor fuckery too
Do you think Ozymandias didn't want Dr. Manhattan's power because he foresaw his own disillusionment with a life of omnipotence or because he was scared to take the risk of disintegrating himself?
he was too in love with himself, becoming a blue god clearly changes you forever
>a second Dr. Manhattan
Wouldn't be a man.
Does marvel have any postmodern superheroes? They have to be popular enough to warrant a film adaptation, so no obscure ones.
Is this for real?
Willy wonka made a machine that could be used on anyone and anything though.
Why didn't every human being transform themselves so all humans ascended into space beings?
>mixing up a self contained universe with the main DC universe that has Plot armor:the hero, OG Mary sue and LMAO SPEEDFORCE XDDDD
y tho
>y tho
because movie revenue. In the current climate nothing is safe if there's money in it
We had a thread about this earlier today but
>still not realising that Manhattan's 'Godlike' abilities were wildly exaggerated by the American cold war propaganda machine because he was their ultimate doomsday weapon and they needed him to keep the rest of the world in check
>still not realising that the whole reason the Watchmen world had a divergent timeline was because of Manhattan shifting the balance of power heavily towards the US at the very start of the cold war
Ozymandias' ultimate success wasn't framing Manhattan, it was convincing Manhattan to leave
Never analyze a Snyder flick
DC is terrified of Marvel
but how, even in comic book logic, manhattan is above everything, he can see the future, and can manipulate atoms, he could disintegrate everything, except maybe some magic or another lmao speedforce fuckery
Why is DC being a complete fuckup in every possible way again
in INjustice Superman is practically a villain with other superheroes helping him and yet batman keeps BTFOing him, at least initially
Dr. Manhattan was created by freak accident. Even if someone were to recreate the conditions under which he gained his abilities, not only is success not guaranteed (the dr. had to pry himself back out of subspace nonexistence, or rather it is hinted that there was great effort involved, as evidenced by his creation sequence) but Dr. Manhattan has omniscience extending ever beyond the moment of his birth and would have already prevented the creation of another Manhattan.
His latent humanity is literally his only 'flaw' as an extra-dimensional nearly omnipotent being- its the only reason he ever experiences "the present" and the emotional and logical influences that come with experiencing time linearly. However, after relinquishing his love and "playing out his role on earth" by helping the worlds smartest boy unite humanity at the end of the watchmen narrative, we can assume that dr. Manhattan is pretty much guaranteed to zero sum and CHIM the fuck out.
what did he do to block his future sight? I don't remember that. In my recollection I thought manhattan just let it happen because he knew he wouldn't give a fuck by that point.
In the current climate dr. manhattan would be black.
>In an alternative universe created by a burst of unknown particles
>DC decided to reboot their universe with a Man of Steel with less destruction porn
>Followed by a Superman x Watchmen Crossover
>the Dr learns of krypton while researching traces of life in the universe, goes back to earth and meets Supes
>whole paranoia plot from lex is directed at the Dr and he blackmails superman into fighting Dr
>whole fight is Dr trying to reason with superman while the man of steel throws everything he has against the semi-god
>Supes realises the manipulation and they reconciliate
>Dr decides to resume his exile but puts Supes in contact with the martian dude from justice league cartoons
>first justice league is about Nazi scientists who discovered time travel appearing in modern times to get weapons for ww2
>that whole Justice league vs WW2 era time traveling nazi arc in 2 films
Old batman + Supes + Young flash + Catwoman + Martian telepath dude (keep Green lantern/aquaman for another film)
>you will never see those films ever
>what did he do to block his future sight?
he did some experiments that released a shitload of tachyons or whatever. They block Manhattan's prescience
Adrian invested in a research that makes something caleld tachyons, and he can now disturb them, which is the same science mcguffin dr manhattan uses to see his future. At the start of the comic, he cannot see the future after a certain point , as it is clouded, from what he assuems the effects of a massive nuclear war
Both too risky and also I think Ozymandias while scornful of humanity also idolized it's accomplishments, hence his name and love of the Gordion Knot fable. Remember: he's not actually a bad guy. Everything he did he did in greater service to the world and humans as a whole.
>we can assume that dr. Manhattan is pretty much guaranteed to zero sum and CHIM the fuck out.
Not everybody here knows The Elder Scrolls' postmodernist lore, user.
New DC is FUN
>How does this make sense?
Try thinking.
>zero sum and CHIM the fuck out
While I appreciate the reference, these are the opposite of each other. He was about to zero sum and stop existing. What he did was CHIM, achieve superpowers.
>No mosaic-level post modern Jon Stewart Green Lantern R-rated film
Whats even the fucking point of living on this gay ass dick planet
You are right, I'm sorry. Though didn't Talos (or one of his higher incarnations) essentially Zero-Sum and then CHIM his way back into existence with the help of some over-dream. I have a fuckin infographic but that shit gets too complicated to ever remember
what could a second manhattan do? deconstruct him? as he says to veidt, the first thing he learned was to put himself back together. Is the other manhattan going to make him invested in certain people and kill them? hes shown that he doesnt care, and he sees nearly all people as homogeneous. whats saving this new manhattan from the same apathy and disintegration of the ego that the first one went through, and why would the new one care enough to try hurt the original?
he sees the past the present and the future simultaneously, he cant be destroyed, he has no attachment to human interests or humanity itself. he is unbeatable
>alternate timeline
>termite
Explain
What the fuck? This is a real shame, Dr Manhattan is a great character
>tfw we'll never get a dr manhattan solo movie
What if a termite had Dr. Manhattan's powers?
he's he's so great why didn't he give himself pupils?
>pupils
>2017
>supporting the ocular Jew
I'd secure the existence of our people and a future for white children
>1488 get
holy shit you were so close
Bye bye mahogany, hello steel furniture
>Never analyze a motion picture artistry created by our lord and savior, God reborn, the Kinomatographer Supreme,
oh right, and no more oxygen
I'm about to watch this for the first time.
Will I like it?
Because he's no longer a man. He's far beyond on mortal. Did you really not understand this or is this just a troll?
are you retarded?
I don't think so, no, but then again, Talos as a concept is an absolute mess - Talos, Tiber, Wulfarth, Zurin Arctus and Lorkhan are all parts of the same thing, sort of, and I cannot for the life of me understand how. One of them mantled Lorkhan and I think Wulfarth literally faked Tiber's Voice, his Shouts, so the Greybeards would call Tiber Stormcrown. It's early unfathomable.
Are you?
He's clearly talking specifically about Veidt.
they kinda lucked out that after his trauma, he didnt have any bad feels for his government
If i ended your normal life in some horrific way that gave you superpowers, killing me would be up there on your to-do list
You're literally contradicting yourself
>Because he's no longer a man. He's far beyond on mortal.
ie man can acquire godlike powers
But Veidt hadn't, and that is who he was talking about. "The worlds smartest man" wasn't a hypothetical, it was Veidt.
Wasn't it confirmed that the old DC universe was actually created by Manhattan in mars?
the fact that you can't understand what he says and then compliment it with your retarded reasoning shows that this movie was probably not made for you.
How is saying, Doc is no longer a man, he is far beyond mortal, a contradiction?
Doc's statement has nothing to do with his own past or even the potential for someone else to gain his powers.
Just as the smartest termite in the world poses no threat to a man, the smartest man in the world poses no threat to Doc. What is confusing here?
Oh god not this bullshit again. How do people still not know how his powers work. He's not omniscient. He perceives all time simultaneously. What he knows tomorrow or next year he knows now, but it's only restricted to what he learns. This is why he's blinded by a localized tachyon blast. This is why he had to be tricked into being in the same place the tachyon blast took place.
>Just as the smartest termite in the world poses no threat to a man
So you live in a world where there's recorded history of a termite spontaneously became a human? Care to post the news clippings?
You took the troll too far mate. Exposed yourself.
>He was a man once and not even the smartest one, thus proving man can achieve godlike powers
He didn't prove men could achieve shit, what happened to him was a one-of-a-kind miracle of circumstances.
Wait, do you NOT realize that when Doc says "world's smartest man" he's NOT talking about himself. He's talking about Ozymandias?
Its implied that they did all around the world and it ended horribly every time
In the comic there's slight hints that they did. The Russian certainly did.
Why does he wear eyeliner. I thought Ozzy was the homosexual one
reminder that manhattan's body actor died trying to outrun a train.
he could've just atomized the politburo and replaced them with manhattan clones. or any number of scenarios to stop nuclear war, it's like he didn't even try. but i guess that was the point.
...
wew alan moore isn't gonna take this well.
Are you really this retarded?
It made him retire from comics.
>what Dr Manhattan knows tomorrow or next year he knows now
If that were true, why didn't he realise ozymandias' plan the moment he reconstructed himself following the tachyon blast. Instead he came to a slow realisation.
I would assume a second Dr. Manhattan would simply not want to harm him, they would think and feel(or not feel) the exact same way. He's sort of just a force of nature at this point. There is no reason he and another like him would battle.
Bullshit.
en.wikipedia.org
Not him but it's true. Manhattan's body was based on Gregg Plitt, who died trying to out run a train.
What so NURSE Manhattan? Come on man be serious
body and face are two different actors
Ozzy wasn't a super human like Jon. Really smart and athletic yes. But Jon is in another level.
make a duplicate of myself and have him suck my dick
>no homo
>could he rape any women he wanted and rule as a god emperor
i dont think he cares about that stuff anymore once he became like that. neither would you, you'd be fundamentally changed, you could even argue that you as a person did die and someone who only bears some resemblance took your place.
>make a duplicate of myself and have him suck my dick
would it be gay? asking for a friend
he means that the worlds smartest man can't come up with a better way of harming Dr. Bronx than the
worlds smartest termite could.
Biting his toe with your jaws is about as effective as using some crude molecule disassembler on him.
Of course if the termite could survive the procedure he did, and became Dr. Termite, he could pose a threat, but that was not the point of the statement.
Having your personality change isn't the same as being a different person.
Dr. Manhattan was still the same person. The whole point is that only someone with his specific background and mental quirks could have rebuilt himself like that.
Not gay for the (you) getting his dick sucked
Gay for the (you) sucking
So it's half gay
>you could even argue that you as a person did die
He did tho, dont you remember what he said to ozzy?
"Reassembling myself was the first trick i learned. it didn't kill Osterman, did you really think it would kill me?"
He sees himself as a completely separate being.
Fight
yeas, you would be doing it and receiving it at the same time and you would feel both things simultaneously.
hot
>He sees himself as a completely separate being.
i think that line could just mean "it didn't kill the human, did you really think it would kill the experienced smurf god?"
he even says that it didn't kill osterman, which means that osterman would still be alive
Nah, i think he was still osterman when he first reappeared. This is supported by whats said throughout the film.
>You're drifting out of touch, doc.
Hes drifting, hes separating himself.
>i am tired of earth, these people.
He has become tired, he is still changing and feeling.
>its like hes forgetting what everything is.
Again, hes separating from humanity.
When he goes to mars, he has become disassociated with life itself and is content. Hes himself.
so he's still osterman, just osterman who became alienated from humanity due to godlike powers and absurd powers of awareness
I think it's mainly the future sight that would fuck him up, that shit is like rewatching scenes in a film you just watched, it's like the world is fake, combine that with godless powers that put him alone above the rest of humanity and the alienation is total, but I think the same thing would happen even if he just had future sight and no other powers