That was not a good film

That was not a good film

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It wasn't a film, it was a movie at best. More likely a flick though.

I watched it expecting an interesting kino about first contact with aliens but what I got was a flick where the protagonist solves a problem by getting the solution from the future via a magical language.

You're right. It was excellent.

Meme on though, you fit in.

Let's not forget that she also brought a child into the world knowing that it's going to suffer unspeakably and tear her and her husband's lives apart. Women amirite

Agreed completely. Full of ex machina bullshit, typical american "we da bess" propaganda, and dubious moral and ethical choices by the protagonist.

All in all: a flick made for dumb american morons who think they're smart.

*nods respectfully towards you*

I thought it was a overly strongk on the femworship

>dr mom need no man
>surrounded by buffoonish brutish men who can't into emotional connections

written, directed,philosophical ideas plagiarized from, you guessed it, men! It must have been a very effeminate man though, to come up with the idea to make women seem smartest by having them present a fraction of Augustine and Nietzsche's thoughts to the masses.

your post is seething with insecurity

>waifutist
Opinion disregarded.

amy adams is fucking ugly
either you people are ugly too or you just have bad taste

that projectile vomiting

t. King of the Gays

Haven't seen it yet, whats so bad about it?

Its Interstellar but with a female and worse

It's really fucking shit, there's a chekhovs gun that literally gets shoed in, deus ex machina crap.

Not kino, not even a flick

I also haven't seen Interstellar, if I watch this first, will I like Interstellar even more?

what femworship?
>dr mom need no man
did you watch the movie?
your second allegation isn't any truer.

you must be kind of dumb.

>Its Interstellar but with a female and worse
i hate you

Interstellar was fresh and had McCoa.. McCauna.. whatever. Arrival has the same plot but in a retarded version and that useless bitch

It was shit and you know it

>Look another German with an inferiority complex

You are just not intelligent enough, go back to watching Star Wars.

why didn't you post the poster with the woman's face situated above the useless man's face, you shitlord? It's international women's week, be considerate.

implying anyone on the poster was of any avail
inb4 she found translation key
inb4 magic

>Interstellar was fresh
kek

Come on. It was

What makes you think I'm german?

I agree.

trips confirm that interstellar was fresh

Was better than Arrival desu.

Honestly I'm baffled critics were singling out Interstellar in their Arrival reviews for 'failing' to do what Arrival did.

Imho, at least, Interstellar was far more engaging and gripping in nearly every way. Arrival just felt too cold and, honestly, generic for me until maybe the last 30 minutes. Even then I never found myself engaged with it as I did with Interstellar.

Then again Arrival pushed a very globalist viewpoint, so I'm sure that helped it get more positive reception as well.

Yep. The first hour was good, but it completely shit the bed in the second. It really reminded me of Inception during the forced montage of Amy "I'm Acting Adams remembering shit.

Terrible film.

I know you're being ironic but there are actual people on here that get triggered from having a female in the leading role. Kinda sad.

Checked and Murrrrph'ed.

It was great. I get why you wouldn't like it if you went in expecting a typical alien movie bu tthat shouldn't keep you from enjoying kino. There were some silly soundtrack moments but apart from that I was very positively surprised.

>so I'm sure that helped it get more positive reception as well.
implying it werent vagina extra points
> Interstellar was far more engaging and gripping in nearly every way.
First and foremost Interstellar had some quite decent action. Arrival had none. Fucking squids

>a typical alien movie
you mean a movie with retarded aliens?

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>american
Does the US actively stop other countries from making movies?

The soundtrack was the best part of the movie imo

>typical american "we da bess" propaganda
how?
>dubious moral and ethical choices by the protagonist
like what?
you need to elaborate this shit, not just make vague statements if you want people to take you seriously.

t. another German

Funny thing is it wasn't nominated for an Oscar kek.

Funnier thing is that I dont even remember there was a soundtrack

Just some moments, the sound was great for the most part.

Funny thing is I don't remember much about the movie.

Not a single moment from it holds a candle to this:

youtube.com/watch?v=a3lcGnMhvsA

Arrival threads are always shit
Film's great

It's great at making people feel smart. Villeneuve is an expert when it comes to pseudo-intellectual pleb flicks

You mean Arrival or Interstellar?

you wrong

Arrival.
It felt well made but didn't leave any kind of impact on me -- like most modern movies desu.

Interstellar was a divisive movie and not for everyone (I understand not everyone loving the ending) but goddamn I loved it. It just felt like there was more of a connection between the film and audience... which is interesting since Nolan's films have always been seen as 'cold and calculating.'

I'm not german.

Exactly. Thing is, this is Sup Forums and Sup Forums is pretty stupid.

We're all Jews and Germans.
Now explain yourself.

the only good thing in Arrival was the very language. The concept was interesting but execution was mediocre.

If I'm kind of dumb, you must have no brain at all.

I found it incredibly dull. I guarantee no one is going to be rewatching this any time soon or talking about it in five years. Contact did everything this did about ten times better.

I watched it yesterday with my brother who watched it the second time and a friend of his who watched for the 9th time and I definitely feel like rewatching it in a couple of days.

>Contact did everything this did about ten times better.
They are comparable only in the setting, everything else is completely different.

While Contact is specifically about the first contact, the ayylmao's and the science are just the setting in Arrival where the actual story takes place in, the story of Amy Adams character relationship with her daughter and life/death in general.
It is by no means a "hard sci fi" movie about aliens.

The opening and the ending sequences are about that
All the major scenes are intercut with that.
And even when it's in the present narrative it's eithet a heavy close up of Amy Adams for half the movie or a camera placement of her characters point of view.

The ayylmaos and the "science" are only the setting where the actual story takes place in.
Also if we just look at the execution of basic filmmaking elements, Arrival has far better editing, sound design, framing and composition and production design.

kek. fucking lier

That's not a lie at all.

>I guarantee no one is going to be rewatching this any time soon or talking about it in five years.

Most of you said the same exact thing about Interstellar.
And here we are 3 years later still with basically daily Interstellar threads which get +100 posts easily.

Why are aliens movies always so human-centric? Why is it always about us? Why aren't they simply on our planet for something as mundane as copper mining (exceptionally common here on earth vs the other planets)?

Arrival actually was about aliens' issues. Also Independence Day, Cowboys and Aliens etc

Scifi has always been just a device for exploring the human condition, from 2001 to Blade Runner.

When you imagine aliens that would live in 4 dimensions and see time as we see space, chances are they'd be interested in things like rocks, things that last longer and are more stable through time than us. They might not even notice us.

yep. Alien is the last good sci-fi. Nobody seems to remember what made that movie so great. Now it's all about le humanity and stupid moral lessons, cheap filmaking tricks that are the reason sci-fi is easily the most pleb genre

so what's the moral lesson of Arrival?

Alien is too about the human condition and dehumanisation.
It explores the deep fears and desires that are usually repressed in the subconscious.

2001, Blade Runner, Alien is about us humans and our morals just as much as Interstellar and Arrival, just a different execution.

What was general Chong's wife's last words?

Accept death as a vital part of your life and appreciate/embrace every waking moment of it.

Milk and two bags of rice. Dont return without it

>ching chon ta we chin na

In mandarin:
>“In war there are no winners, only widows"

But Villleneuve didn't left out the translation so you have to figure it out, it really doesn't matter,

Oh come on, how simple are you?

nice buzzwords faggot

trying having an argument next time

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I'm a human and I don't understand what this means.

>not liking 2 hour high budget episodes of 90's Twilight Zone

>le "movie is not deep enough to be good" meme

Ofcourse a movie doesn't have a universal singular answer or "message", but it's what I took from it.
Amy Adams is aware her daughter will die young, but she already loves her daughter (just like she loves her) so she thinks the moments they had together are worth living for, rather than not having them at all.

It was a good flick, tho.

At what point is she ever presented with the choice of having her daughter or not?

ITS DIGNITY, user! CAN YOU NOT RECOGNIZE WHAT DIGNITY LOOKS LIKE?!

no it wasn't. The way the Adams character communicated with the squid people was so hamfisted and stupid. Any retard of the street could have come up with this. Also the soldiers attempting to shoot up the space ship after listening to an equivalent of Alex Jones kek
The way the film tried to push it's politics wasn't very subtle. Overall the film tried to do Nolanesque non-linear storytelling and failed in that regard because it lacked any kind of depth. 4/10 because it did some cool visuals to it.

>Americans we da best
>Director is french canadian
>Writer is Chinese

Nigger wat

>cool visuals
you mean CGI from 2005?

>Comparing Villeneuve to Nolan

Holy shit Sup Forums is actually retarded.

where from the film did you infer this? I felt the socio-political message in the film was much clearer with the whole humanity can now work together with the aid of the time-defying 'universal' language thing.

the fact that you think Villeneuve is any better than Nolan is why this board is retarded

Literally at the end when she after all goes with Jeremy Renniere

>Banks' understanding of the heptapods' writing system affects the way she perceives time and suggests a deterministic universe wherefree willis exercised bynotaffecting the outcome of events.

She isn't presented with the choice of having or not having, but to enjoy/embrace the moments ahead of her or to not accept it and focus only on the end part (death)

Here's an excerpt from an interview with Villeneuve if I didn't make it clear enough:
>The idea is that the heptapods see life like a [scripted] play. They know what will happen, so they have the choice — either they do it bored to death, or they embrace it and try to be at their best, like an actor on a stage."

The only thing i dont understand is, how the fuck did she have premonitions about her daughter befor even contacting the ayy lmaos

>where from the film did you infer this?
The mother daughter relationship ofcourse, it's the whole point of it.
And you are not wrong with the whole humanity can now work together thing, it's just another theme in the movie.

I went in expecting Nothing, and I was very disappointed. It's an alright movie, mediocre I'd say. It had interesting themes, I liked how it tries to be more procedural about the meeting aliens but it was messy and the ending was the worst, as everyone already said the laziest Deus ex machina right after the save the world button in The amazing Spider-Man that I've seen.
This movie's problems have nothing to do with expectations related to other alien movies.

Well, the way the translators entered the ship was really cool
I felt it was appropriate to mention Nolan because I think the way he does non-linear storytelling is much better. Arrival just seemed to be waving the whole 'time is circular, squid language is circular, get it?' thing in your face.

What soundtrack???
You mean muffled bass sounds?
Also just goes to show you how awful the Oscars really are when this garbage won for best sound. There was nothing impressive about it.

I wouldn't be so harsh on the ost, it did give the movie it's ominous vibe and overall it felt appropriate. It's not supposed to be impressive because it would draw attention away from the action in the film.

>What soundtrack??? You mean muffled bass sounds?
That's not the soundtrack, that was the sound design.

>Also just goes to show you how awful the Oscars really are when this garbage won for best sound.
There is no "best sound" category, there's best sound mixing and best sound editing.
Arrival won for sound editing and rightfully so because the sound editing was actually used as a storytelling device where clues from the future were played in the current narrative, where other films use this element just to "fill the form".