How do we de-normalise casual sex?

How do we de-normalise casual sex?

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>So whats the alternative? Repress people's murderous urges and have a bunch of frustrated, pent up uber Christians running around committing even more murderous acts behind closed doors? Call it degenerate all you like, you know as well as I do that the urge to murder is as human as the urge to provide for ones children and ensure the security of your home. Also, have you noticed that without fail, every group that tries to control how other people treat their lives usually has some insipid agenda?

Just wanted to reply and fix the post of the guy who posted this in the last thread

>answer is anime
>Sup Forums so dumb they need 2 threads to find out

racists are really dumb, huh?

Isn't anime just self-infantilisation?

Go to Church and eat your vitamins. Be an example to others. It's all you can do.

Kind of sad when being a counter-cultural rebel these days means waiting until marriage before you have sex.

MORE AIDS

Public shaming.

Public shaming fixes pretty much everything as long as the person being shamed has the mental capacity to feel shame.

That's why liberals get so much done, you don't even need to pass laws as long as you can prevent people from shaming bad acts, and if you can get people to encourage bad acts then the war is already lost.

>and if you can get people to encourage bad acts then the war is already lost.

Remember that the war you yourself are fighting is a war for goodness and sanity, not a war for people who willingly fight against it

Shut down or stop using the Internet.

If not possible, form a neo-luddite group dedicated to raising children the pre-industrial way

without public schools, screens and technology the Jew has no influence.

the Amish are doing the right thing.

Sup Forums is a major part of the problem

don't pretend you're exempt.

People here who want a serious discussion should consider making a new community with higher standards for discussion

. Sup Forums is a den of filth and just being here encourages immorality and lack of shame.

Don't fall for the "counter cultural' meme even if in this case you're doing the right thing.

But seeing it as any form of rebellion means you will sway easily if the pendulum ever goes back the other way. Being anti-"normal" is a trap.

Post-happening western countries are going to experience a surge of traditionalism after the people begin to blame degeneracy for what happened. We can't "do it," it will happen naturally after the troubles are over.

This.

Do people not realize that the Internet killed the effectiveness of public shaming?

The fact that people can hide behind a screen, say one thing and do another without ever being seen is inherently destructive to society.

As much as this truth hurts, anonymity online, and really the personal computer paradigm in general has to go. People need to stop feeling safe from shame in their rooms.

you can't

it's far too easy in this day and age. Even with the shame aspect, people just don't give a fuck. Now is the era of hedonism. Delete the internet and remove rapid transit.

The Internet , and technology in general is the biggest barrier to shaming currently in existence. It's why the poorest communities have less of an issue with it until their kids go to school.


Essentially the screen is like a condom for your mind. It lets people engage in all sorts of mental filth while "protecting" themselves from the consequences or shame it used to have.

I didn't agree with you in the last thread, but I agree with this

It's not that I want to be anti-normal but if you engage in casual sex, you become part of the problem. The only solution is not be part of the problem, which is pretty counter-cultural because it's going against the normal society.

a virgin who wants to denormalize casual sex?

Something something bible Something something kill the jews something stop porno ect..

You hit the nail on the head.

Even mass easy transportation could be seen as part of the same trend of globalization, destruction of tradition and basically building the new Tower of Babel.

the Industrial Revolution was where it all started. the City was always the devil's domain (Cain built the first city) and modern technology and modernist ideology actually go hand in hand.

Few people are willing to address this basic truth. They like to pretend that technology and morality are never related but they VERY OBVIOUSLY are and they're in major denial

I don't. and I'm fairly certain I will be celibate for life because I don't see myself as fit for marriage either.

But here is where I still disagree

Don't you see that the way we've constructed the internet to work for us is a manifestation of our cultural liberalism and not a principal source of it?

Really, I see even marrying in this day and age to be part of the problem, because the way we were raised makes it near impossible to truly be a good father, and if I did have kids I would have to completely shun technology and society.

I see celibacy as the best option available now

I am very much the same, but personally I don't think there is "fit for marriage" material, anyone can get married.

Well yes of course.

But a non-Liberal internet would be so radically different (as in, no anonymity at all, and treated just like the public street, with your real face on everything)

that pretty much nobody today would EVER think of it as a good idea.

Sup Forums doesn't like to hear that internet anonymity is inherently leftist and destructive but it really is.

I'm diagnosed autistic. I know what happens to autistic fathers and that they fail to raise children properly and have a higher divorce rate than mixed-race couples even. I don't want to burden my children with this.

AIDS

Bring back the concept of Western Shame culture.

Publically denounce whores, loudly.

maybe it wasn't an initial source, but you can't deny its place in the feedback loop at this point. Women's lib and early gay rights happened pre-internet, but I guarantee you that we wouldn't be having conversations about the transsexual meme if not for the internet.

I don't think it's anonymity that's the problem exactly, it's compartmentalization and self-obsession.

What I disagree with you on is the idea that the structure of the internet is a cause, rather than a manifestation, of the cancer that is within the Western collective psyche

how is this possible as long as the Internet allows this "privacy" that lets everyone evade shame?

Nothing short of a complete restructuring of the Net would make this possible.

As in, make it such that it's required by law to disclose internet history to employers and future marital partners.

>compartmentalization and self-obsession.

that's the natural result of anonymity and "privacy" behind screens.

If everyone's internet communications had the same ramifications as talking to someone in the street this wouldn't happen.

That's sensible of you then.
I'm not just meaning the pair of us though, I'm talking about anybody and everybody has the potential to be a good father, just like we all have the potential to be a bad one, but generally, the only point I really wanted to make was about the casual sex, and waiting until marriage. We need to live in a society which respects those traditional Christian values again, this society doesn't. It's hedonistic and truly awful.

buy everyone anime body pillows

I'm starting to believe that simply going on Sup Forums is anti-traditional and mentally poisoning.

I'm considering not owning a computer sometime soon and actually seeing how much I really can abandon technology. Thing is I'm a software engineer so I'm kind of bound into the evil system.

Sure, I can accept that. But we'd have to both agree that, in order to socially fix the West, we would have to cut out the tumour that is at the root of all of this "progressive" dogma

Namely, the almost complete loss of faith in, and desire for sanity

it's pretty obvious that Sup Forums's base culture is rooted in loss of sanity and nihilism and always was really.

To some degree I know this feel. I honestly mostly want to date to raise a family, but I don't feel like I would be a good father and head of the household.

Probably the only two things keeping me going is first I'd probably off myself if I thought there was no hope of me raising a family, its been my dream since childhood, so I may as well try.

Second, I could have literally knock a girl up and leave her and I still wouldn't be as destructive as my own father. I would literally have to actively harm my own family to be as bad as him. I have a pretty fucking low bar to leap over.

just remove the genitals of all the male minorities
and everything will return to normal.

Policing the net isn't possible, or even a good idea.

More over, the internet isn't the problem. Yes, porn has consequences. Yes, whores sending pictures over the internet is a red flag.

Despite those things, you can't have casual sex over the internet, it's simply not possible. That should be the biggest point of concern.

Plus, bringing back shame culture, while it wouldn't entirely eradicate internet whoredom, does bring back the concept of people policing themselves, even online, to a certain degree.

Porn and slutty girls will always exist. That's not the issue. We just have to push this stuff underground, and not let it have a widespread effect on polite society.

>How do we de-normalise casual sex?
delete all social media

The other thing I wanted to ask is what is user's opinions on arranged marriages?

I've had one relationship in the past (never had sex in it) and it was with someone from a traditional Indian family.

What I learned from seeing her relatives' families was that really, having the parents be involved in formal courtship is something very valuable, and something the West has only suffered from abandoning.

Not so much Sup Forums really. Huge blocs of it is pro- social and individual objective sanity

That's not true though. Casual sex isn't a new thing.

This shit has been going on since the cultural Marxist revolution of the 1960s.

Technology isn't the problem. The moral standards of society are.

...why is casual sex wrong again?

are they really?

I think most of Sup Forums is hypocrites who pretend to be moral but don't practice what they preach

Sharia law bruv

anonymity would be fine if people were capable of self restraint and intellectual honesty
if people were capable of self restraint and intellectual honesty, we wouldn't need the anonymity

I don't know how to solve it.

>you can't have casual sex on the internet
No, but you can carry out all of the social heavy lifting of finding a partner on the internet. A married person can be seen out in public looking for someone to cheat with. With the internet, you can pull all that shit off privately.

Most people aren't capable of these things anymore.

Anonymity must be completely eliminated for a generation or two. This won't happen which is why I think a large group of people raising children away from the Internet completely is what is needed.

>no fun allowed
eat a dick you fucking kike

See:
More over, the science used to justify casual sex has always been faulty. It ignores the effects of diminishing returns on Oxytocin. Additionally, Dr. Kinsey (Who was at the forefront of the modern sexual revolution), compared the human orgasm to a sneeze, and tried to pass of surveys of prostitutes, and convicted sex offenders as the private behaviors of middle America.

Oh, and his work was also funded by the (((Rockefeller Foundation))).

No one can perfectly practice what they preach. But even knowing what is right, and even believing that something can be objectively right, is a huge step in fixing the tumour at the heart of the West

Also anonymity actually actively encourages people to be dishonest. The temptation to hide things they don't want others to hear is too hard to avoid. Human nature is wicked , and the more abstractions to consequences the more this will come out

The internet's not the problem even then, the fact that adultery hasn't been criminalized is.

-hypergamy
-delays the formation of family unit and destabilises it
-herpes

Is fun more valuable than sanity?

Criminalizing adultery in this day and age would require a strong control of the Internet.

Maybe even sex-segregating the net itself.

I vote for robot girlfriends. Then I don't have to worry about being cucked or having my bank acct rekt.

No, it wouldn't.

Enforcing moral values is not synonymous with being a luddite.

Transhumanism is the ultimate agenda of the globalist/kike elite. They want a virtual world where all consequences of sin are remove and man can act like God. Don't fall for it.

This is really what's gotten me so scared about technology and guilty about my own job as a programmer.

Don't want to seem rude, but I know that autism can make you obsess over a concept or idea

Perhaps you're refusing to accept the proposed alternatives partly because of an obsession over yours

demonize what you cannot have.There is nothing wrong with casual sex.It will get " worse " in the future, it is just a beginning.

I am a libertarian so i don't understand why I can't do things with my own body.

I like chicks and fembois so fuck off. If I wanted to fuck five fembois that is my thing. They can't get pregnate and as long as I pop truvada I don't get hiv. If the femboi is on female hormones too they look ever more fem and smell like a girl while having nice soft girly skin.

Girls are cool too, but they are not into as much casual sex. I like the feel of a vagina more, but honestly quantity vs quality I would pick the femboi. They put out much much much more than a girl does.

>demonize what you cannot have

Bulverism

>There is nothing wrong with casual sex

Why do you think this?

THEN HOW WILL WE HAVE QUALITY PORN

You're probably right. I'm obsessed with this because the Internet and technology is so deeply tied to my own life and career.

But why? I'm not saying I don't want to procreate. I would just buy a kid using artificial insemination in a rented girl.

DESU this is my irl plan, I'm not getting married, it's too dangerous to my potential offspring. I will only be having girlfriends and kids which I purchased from a clinic.

Robot wifus would just be a sweet bonus.

Casual sex =\= promiscuity

If people want to fuck each other let them. Promiscuity has and will always be undesirable in a person. Fuck sluts, marry women, it's not hard.

destabilize the world so your dopamine rushes can be satiated. degenerate fuck, truvada wont save you.

This. Only virgins give a fuck about this, the same way only poor people give a fuck about how much money the 1% have.

OP, what is wrong with casual sex? Please explain.

>guilty about my own job as a programmer.
I had a short stint in IT working with databases and I completely agree. "Big Data" allows a level of moral distancing that really creeps me out.

I have no problem with a heavily regulated vice industry. I just don't want disney channel peddling sex simulacra to tween girls. South Koreans are rediculous smokers, but you can't show people smoking cigarettes on korean tv. I'm totally fine with that. You can DO it, but make it clear that it's a vice and not just "the way it is."

>I am a libertarian so i believe there should be no limit to the things I can do with my own body.

Does that mean you're right to believe this

To the user who is hell bent on destroying the internet: the focal point of this thread is about casual sex. The internet just provides more ways to achieve casual sex, but people cannot have sex with the internet.

Shutting down the internet does nothing, as it can be used as a shaming tool against people who engage in casual hookups.

The problem is outside of the internet, in the real world, where people are fucking each other for the sake of fucking, and dragging society down with them.

It's for casuals.

It's purely a raw hedonistic pleasure, that leads to this and this

You don't. You don't have the right to tell other people what they can/can't do with their own bodies.
We already have a sexually ignorant nation. Things are bad enough as it is without your stupidity. You're either a bitter christian virgin, or a pedo muslim. Either way, fuck off.

you're right and I'm sorry for derailing the thread.
I'm just going on and on about the Internet because I have no real world experience with even pursuing casual sex. I only see the effects of it on social media.

>implying you wouldn't hit this.

>what's wrong with casual sex
It's cynical/dog morality. Just go shit in the street with pajeet. Why not? Why maintain personal hygiene? Why exercise?

this is why I seriously consider leaving Sup Forums for good.

The majority of people even on Sup Forums are like you . Sup Forums has this poisonous culture of "you're here forever" like crabs in a bucket, like there really aren't better , saner places online to discuss topics like this.

Filthy casuls, bet they can't speedrun sex like me

the irony is that the one thing India has right is marriage.

They have the parents arrange it. They don't fall for the Western "dating" trap (well it's definitely spreading but historically it's newer there).

I think there's very real benefits to arranged marriages. The idea of "soul mates" is bullshit, marriage is about sacrifice and not about compatibility. Orthodox Jews in the US do it too

>You don't have the right to tell other people what they can/can't do with their own bodies.

And why shouldn't I have this right?

>Things are bad enough as it is without your stupidity.

Describe what you see as these "bad enough" things

>You're either a bitter christian virgin, or a pedo muslim.

It doesn't matter. All that matters is if I'm right or wrong

>Either way, fuck off.

No

This is even better.

See how nicely this femboi looks? so hot....


fuck off and go fuck a femboi

>t. virgin

You don't. Liberalism and all this SJW cultural marxist shit is a pandoras box. You can't close pandoras box.

You have to buckle down and wait for the storm to pass. Only then can you observe the wreckage and begin to rebuild.

Nobody is going to listen to your noise complaints when the party is still going strong.

I agree, manners are one humans way of showing respect for another.

Boner pls

It's an interesting way to rationalise not doing anything, but I agree with you

I myself and ordinary people can't do much until it completely brakes down

what's your take on Sup Forums and anonymity?

this place is the antithesis to manners and proper discussion.

Casual Sex is fine.
Sexual Promiscuity (for both males and females) is not and leads to the breakdown of the family unit and plummeting birthrates.

What do manners and politeness have to do with it?

>meet girl
>go for dinner
>attracted to each other
>fuck
>go separate ways after a good experience

What's wrong with that? It's not like rutting in the streets or some shit.

>Casual Sex is fine.

Not in the case of women. See

This thread is a perfect example of how /r9k/ ruined Sup Forums by turning it into "Nu-males on the alt-right: The Board"

how is it OK for men? It takes two to tango. I agree the consequences are worse for women but if men stopped doing it then women wouldn't either. It takes two to tango

>I am a libertarian so i don't understand why I can't do things with my own body.
What you mean to say with that is you're autistic and don't know why societal rules and pressures are beneficial for society/

The data shows that woman is synonymous with virgin bride.

More over, the acceptance of casual sex is the acceptance of promiscuity. The acceptance of those things cuts into the population of proper women.

Plus the sluts are still going to find some poor sap to knock her up, she'll then be more likely to get divorced, and now society picks up the tab. Welfare and another person that's very likely to be a criminal.


see:

you are here forever faggot