What is, objectively, the best David Lynch film?
What is, objectively, the best David Lynch film?
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they're all good
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They're all good. In my objective opinion the best are Eraserhead, Inland Empire and Wild At Heart.
The Elephant Man, because it's the only Lynch movie in the imdb top 250.
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The Elephant Man and The Straight Story.
Mulholland Drive makes sense, so that one.
>inb4 oh you just don't get it maaan
The Elephant Man. It's me favorite film, alrite
Mulholland Drive
It's a story of unrequited love. The first two hours are Naomi Watts dreaming. The last 30 minutes are Naomi Watts awake.
Blue Velvet of course
Almost all his films make sense, except for LH and IE
Lost Highway
Blue Velvet is the best overall movie, Lost Highway and Mulholland Drive are both equally good and pretty similar in general weirdness and pretty confusing at times, Inland Empire is a horrifying nightmare for 3 hours but I loved it for some reason
Mulholland Dr. I think is his most widely praised (though his fans tend to hate it for some reason), because it has a good balance of being straight forward and being Lynchian.
I haven't seen many of his. I don't get the charm of his idiosyncratic style in Blue Velvet or Wild at Heart. I hated the latter btw. I liked Lost Highway, but it's not as clear as MD.
>I don't get the charm of his idiosyncratic style in Blue Velvet
Blue Velvet isn't as utterly surreal as some of the other Lynch films but once Dennis Hopper comes in the film feels very identifiably Lynch.
who was in the wrong here?
Well, Jeffrey was fucking Frank's girl...
`My favorite is Lost Highway. It's pretty much the same as Mullholland Drive in terms of narrative structure, but I fucking love the soundtrack and how balls to the walls fucked up it gets.
But objectively, i'm thinking Blue Velvet is the one that might get the most praise from the bigger audiences. I'm cool with that, Blue Velvet is great too.
David Lynch and the Goblet of Fire
Eraserhead, you plebs
It's always been Blue Velvet.
FWWM is the most underrated
It's ironically dune
Its a masterpiece, deal with it.
UN-ironically god dammit.
got that shit right my man
The Straight Story, probably.
>most underrated
Don't you mean Wild at Heart? It never gets its own thread here, and very few people ever bring it up in Lynch threads.
You get at least one FWWM thread a day, and it's now regarded as a much better film than it was at release.
Inland Empire.
Don't read any of the other posts and go watch it.
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Not the guy you're replying to, but why did everyone hate FWWM when it premiered? It could certainly use a re-edit with some of the scenes from The Missing Pieces but it's at the very least a 6 or 7 out of 10 as-is. Laura Palmer's death scene alone should've guaranteed the movie some praise.
Objectively?
Fire Walk With Me.
People were disappointed that Coop was barely in it, the tone and content was much more grim and explicit than in the TV show, and rather than answering many questions that were left from the TV show, the film only made audiences ask more.
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>THEYRE STILL WARM
TOPKEK
>ON YOUR FFUCKING PHONE! GET REAL
LEGEND
>the film only made audiences ask more
Surely a critic or alternatively a sensible person wouldn't see this as a negative thing.
I suppose the grim tone and explicit nature of FWWM can be off-putting but it didn't recontextualize much at all. Everything in the film is present in the series, just in a more implicit, subdued way. It's a completely logical direction for a work like this.
I can see why the average Joe might not be a fan of the movie, but how could anyone who called themselves a film critic have disliked it for any of these reasons?
The Coop thing in particular, since fans might be disappointed he isn't more prolific in the movie but a critic should be able to note that Coop himself doesn't have much to do with Laura's story before she's murdered, even if the Lodges blur the line between past and present.
As someone who never read the book i actually liked it
a candy-colored clown
- they call the sandman -
tiptoes to my room every night
just to sprinkle star dust and to whisper:
go to sleep, everything is alright.
elephant man > blue velvet > mulholland drive > lost higway
It's Fire Walk With Me
Most Lynch is Eraserhead or Inland Empire
Favourite is FWWM
Mulholland Drive and Blue Velvet are probably considered his best
WaH actually won Lynch the Palm d'Or too, so its double weird that its so underrated.
did Jeffrey get raped in the behind ?
This. Dune is pure kino. bookfags are just being bedwetters.
I actually just watched it yesterday and was very confused. With every other film he's directed, I immediately loved it on first viewing. I never understood why people would call his movies 'too weird' or say 'I don't get it'.
I dont get Inland Empire. But to be fair I watched it without any subtitles, so I had literally no clue what was happening in the Polish scenes.
Maybe?
Wild at Heart is very underrated becasue it has Nicolas Cage in it. No one dares to admit to like a movie with him since he became le epic maymay.
>Everything in the film is present in the series, just in a more implicit, subdued way.
That's absolute bollocks. Everything in the TV show was hinted at or implied - the film actually shows all of the violence, it shows nudity, and it shows Laura being raped, taking drugs etc.
There are many reasons to like FWWM, but it is certainly not 'implicit and subdued'.
>It's a completely logical direction for a work like this.
I wouldn't say that at all. Season 2 ended on nothing but cliffhangers, so for the film to be a prequel and not address them isn't logical at all.
You're right about the critics. They should have been objective and reviewed the film for what it is, but it seems that wasn't the case.
>Everything in the TV show was hinted at or implied - the film actually shows all of the violence, it shows nudity, and it shows Laura being raped, taking drugs etc.
That's exactly what user said.
>That's absolute bollocks. Everything in the TV show was hinted at or implied - the film actually shows all of the violence, it shows nudity, and it shows Laura being raped, taking drugs etc.
That's what he's saying, user. The series implied the violence of the film. They're both expressions of the same themes.
>They should have been objective and reviewed the film for what it is, but it seems that wasn't the case.
Never got this, though. Film criticism is, at the end of the day, giving an opinion about a film. It's inherently subjective.
>Film criticism is, at the end of the day, giving an opinion about a film. It's inherently subjective.
No, actually, in reality it's about conforming to cultural trends (and current agendas). Many of the same critics are drooling over FWWM now.
Misunderstood what he meant - I apologise user.
>Never got this, though. Film criticism is, at the end of the day, giving an opinion about a film. It's inherently subjective.
I'm not saying all aspects of a film can be measured objectively. I was trying to say that film critics should have reviewed the film as a film, not as a continuation of the TV show.
I mean they're human so it may have been difficult to get past their biases, but ideally they should have been able to review it for what it was, not what they were wanting it to be.
Lynch is literally has autism and all of his movies have no plot or no deeper meaning it's just pretentious shit thrown together at a wall and passed off as "art".
Look at him in interviews
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I think it's normal to be confused, it's something you have to watch with your gut, if that makes any sense.
Eraserhead, anyone who pretends otherwise is a faggot
How was it received at release?
My dad told me that Wild at Heart received critical acclaim when it first came out, but lookng at RT/Wikipedia/etc that doesn't seem to be the case. When I asked him if he meant Blue Velvet, he said he was sure it was WaH.
you just can't comprehend his level of intelligence
it doesn't
You're so angry that you don't understand something that everyone else seems to like.
Too bad for you.
>Lynch is literally has autism and all of his movies have no plot or no deeper meaning it's just pretentious shit thrown together at a wall and passed off as "art".
Not everyone can be Snyder, after all.
A review reflecting what you interpret as an agenda is usually reflecting contemporary social and cultural trends. Obviously people are massively influenced by trends and there are always certain hiveminds but nowadays (mostly thanks to the internet) it's easy enough for hobbyists to express their own thoughts on films, meaning the kind of reviewer who gets paid (and therefore feels a sort of misguided obligation to reflect the zeitgeist or whatever) doesn't inflict as much of a grievance on anyone actually looking for decent reviews, even if the professional field of critiquing or whatever you want to call it is pretty much soulless.
explain
I want to understand it.
How does Twin Peaks rank among all of these?
more like shit peaks its shit
Lynch directed only 6 of the 30 episodes of Twin Peaks, his episodes though are the most iconic of the series. I'd say they're not really comparable to his feature length films
>not bringing Heather Graham back for season 3
Fuck him
I guess we'll never know how Annie is.
1. Blue Velvet
2. Muholland Drive
3. Eraserhead
4. Lost Highway
5. Elephant Man
Most missing pieces-scenes don't advance the story forward one bit, aren't funny and or are too on the nose and not poetic enough (most notably the Convenience store scene). Mary Sweeney did a great job on editing FWWM.
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babbys first Lynch.
Plebs. If they did list her on the cast list we would already know the answer. They are obviously leaving her out on purpose. Now it can go either way. They might have done the same with David Bowie,.
Fire Walk With Me
INLAND EMPIRE
Nice save
IIRC Bowie was confirmed
>mfw
except the whole bit about Teresa finding out that Leland was Laura's dad which drove him to murder her. Pretty big detail.
Also the entire epilogue that shows what happens to the ring is pretty damn important and they completely left it out.
Scariest film I've ever seen desu
Is it actually scary, or is it Mulholland Drive hobo 'scary'?
I'm tempted to watch it next week
I already knew about the hobo beforehand but that shit in inland empire came out of nowhere and fucked me up
both. probably works better if you see it in the theater with no prior knowledge though. that image alone is a spoiler.
MD scary
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Sure do, same thing.
BRRRAAAAAAAAAAPPPPPP
It was underrated because it was in one of the dullest franchises in the history of tv franchises. Seriously each episode following the boy FBI agent and his pals from Twin Peaks Sheriff Department as they fight assorted villains has been indistinguishable from the others. Aside from the gloomy imagery, the series’ only consistency has been its lack of excitement and ineffective use of special effects, all to make magic unmagical, to make action seem inert.
Perhaps the die was cast when Frost vetoed the idea of Spielberg directing the series; he made sure the series would never be mistaken for a work of art that meant anything to anybody, just ridiculously profitable cross-promotion for his scripts. The Twin Peaks series might be anti-Christian (or not), but it’s certainly the anti-James Bond series in its refusal of wonder, beauty and excitement. No one wants to face that fact. Now, thankfully, they no longer have to.
>a-at least FWWM was good though
"No!"
The writing is dreadful; the script was terrible. As I read, I noticed that every time a character went for a fire walk with me, the author wrote instead that the character "stretched his legs."
I began marking on the back of an envelope every time that phrase was repeated. I stopped only after I had marked the envelope several dozen times. I was incredulous. Lynch's mind is so governed by cliches and dead metaphors that he has no other style of writing. Later I read a lavish, loving review of Twin Peaks by the same JJ Abrams. He wrote something to the effect of, "If these kids are watching Twin Peaks at 11 or 12, then when they get older they will go on to watch JJ Abrams." And he was quite right. He was not being ironic. When you watch "Twin Peaks" you are, in fact, trained to watch JJ Abrams.
I can't fault this, it's 100% true.
This is rewritten copypasta boy
>a-at least FWWM was good though
"No!"
>As I read, I noticed that every time a character went for a fire walk with me
Doesn't make it any less true
stop samefagging fuckboy
>except the whole bit about Teresa finding out that Leland was Laura's dad
The movie hinted at that, though, without explicitly telling you.
For those who unironically like Inland Empire, why?
It's extremely unsettling but also gripping and hypnotic.
"No!"
I'M A ONE-ARMED DUCK FUCKER
Dumbland is one of the best things he's made.
who broke the fuckin LLLLAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAMMMP?
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It's fucking terrifying is what it is, more so thanks to the digital camera
Heineken? Fuck that disease, I won't put it in me!
>the chicken walk
Do American's really do this?