Redpill me on Theresa May

Redpill me on Theresa May

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She has been Home Secretary since 2010, during this time there hasn't been a rise in crime or any major terrorist incidents, or any huge disasters. Which is quite impressive since the home secretary job is often chaotic.

She is a know supporter of snoopers charter, which legislation that supports data collection, imo since it's destroyed after 12 months, and since the UK faces numerous terrorist threats this kind of legislation is ok.

She ended Stop and search and prevented the police from unionising, she's know for being dutiful, and see's herself as a civil servant.

She failed to cut immigration but cutting immigration to 10,000 was unrealistic since the UK is part of the EU.

She did however clamp down on foreign students over staying on study visas.

She was for Remaining in the EU however she wasn't very vocal about it leading people to suspect she only did it for party unity and is actually for Leave.

>She was for Remaining in the EU however she wasn't very vocal about it leading people to suspect she only did it for party unity and is actually for Leave.

Oh, just like Boris was for stay? There is no basis whatsoever for people suspecting people wished for any other outcome for the referendum than what they professed, and that included Corbyn.

She has no kids. She always backed Remain. She said she won't invoke Article 50 for at least two years. She won't cut back on immigration.

another thatcher that will fuck any life prospects there are left for lower-class brits there are left

>May wanted to pull the UK out of the European convention on human rights.

I think it's pretty clear she doesn't like the EU, also MP's close to her have said that she reluctantly supported remain.

She has pledged to abandon George Osborne's austerity and surplus target

I don't need to. Your opinion doesn't matter.

She'll be the next Prime minister anyway, she's the only one with experience

She, like most of the cabinet, is Eurosceptic, which doesn't mean she wanted Britain to leave the UK.

Rather unfortunate that this is the case that there are such weak candidates after six years.

If I were PM, after demanding absolute loyalty from my appointees, I would look for the most charismatic and for those who would be be suited to replace me.

Firstly, there's no basis whatsoever for the comparison to Thatcher other than they're both women, so saying that makes you pretty sexist.

Furthermore, maybe you didn't get the memo, but socialism lost and Thatcher's reforms were necessary for the UK. If you don't think so, there perhaps isn't a single European country, (at least not in the mainland), that is as socialist as the UK was under the Labour government before Thatcher. So you must be a rather frustrated individual.

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Is she like a known name over there or did she just pop up out of nowhere?

she's very well known since she has been Home Secretary which is a very important position in the government. it's one of the great offices of state.

Shes quite well known. Home Secretary is one of the big 4 jobs in government here and she was Home Secretary for 6 years, which is much longer than most of her predecessors.

Doesn´t mean people like her though.

I'm not sure about May, I get mixed messages.

She was widely critical of the European Court of Human Rights during her time in the Home Office mainly due to the Abu Hamsa debacle.

>[Radical Muslim cleric living in London who was clearly insighting Islamist extremism on our own streets, yet we couldn't legally deport him out of the UK due to EU laws]

After that it seems like May is pretty based and hates inequal immigration laws etc.

HOWEVER

She is pro-Remain and I worry about her delivering Article 50 and full Brexit

Both women are fine choices and I would be happy with either

That's a pretty fair opinion

she looks like an owl and i'm quite fond of owls they're my favourite bird

As home secretary, it has literally been her job to control immigration. I shouldn't need to say any more than that

I like owls too.

Why does this dumb 'I was bankerzz and sheeit' bitch keep getting caught out lying? I though politicians were good at that?

Does anything about her look like PM material? I think I'd might prefer Gove.

The following article is all you need to know (along with the fact that, like the good little authoritarian she is, she forced its removal from a newspaper because the truth about her appalling record is so devastating to her).

order-order.com/2016/07/02/read-full-article-pulled-telegraph-pressure-may-campaign/

>There’s a vast gulf between being effective in office, and being effective at promoting yourself; it’s not one that Theresa May has yet crossed.

What did she lie about?

Its incredible how quickly political careers can go out the window. If she handn´t been caught lying abou her CV I reckon she would have been PM, her lack of experience wouldn´t have mattered, but now I don´t expect her to do much ever again in politics.

>Does anything about her look like PM material?
no

everything

> supporter of snoopers charter, which legislation that supports data collection, imo since it's destroyed after 12 months,

>She ended Stop and search
Is this like stop and frisk? Profiling, right?

These are pretty big negatives. Sounds like a typical neocon to me.

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She just doesn't like freedoms m80

Don't agree. The tory grassroots love the idea of a neo-thatcher, but these are serious times and May is well ahead. Leadsome's 'major' economy speech the other day was a disaster.

Oh yeah fucking great bitch isnt she
express.co.uk/news/uk/674489/Home-Secretary-Theresa-May-says-Britain-benefits-Sharia-Law

smdh if this is what passes for acceptable in Britain

>This

But since Brexit has brought immigration to the forefront the next leader will HAVE to visibly act on it, otherwise they will be voted out in the next General Election

Also, remember that once we eventually do leave the EU, freedom of movement will stop and we will automatically have a natural reduction in immigration

>Prefer Gove

I said this all along. Leadsom is pretty much a non-candidate

Back Gove or get May

Doubles confirms they are a hoot

Context is twisted, the express is a comic, don't post it again.

>>What did she lie about?
>Everything

The May shills really are getting desperate. Sad!

agreed i'd prefer Gove, If it was Gove v May I wouldn't be concerned who won. But Leadsom would be out of her depth.

>effective at promoting yourself

This isn't a trait I look for in Prime Minister.

Trump has that talent, for example

>Back Gove or get May
Um, Gove dropped out? You didn't hear?

It's unfortunate that our political culture pretends so well that people who have already been in power are "competent" despite all the stupidity that they spew constantly while in government and total abject failure to achieve the goals that they are elected for. Experience and competence today are not nearly as relevant as people imagine them to be

Exactly, that's why you should stay the hell away from #AllTalkNoImmigrationCuts May.

>CV
>Helped Eddie George's team over Baring's collapse (kek)
>i-i didn't say anything about May and children
[transcript intensifies]

that's three off the top of my head

Her CV was fine, the whole point of one is to sell yourself, you don't write "I worked X for 10 years and was made a senior manager after 9" you write "I was a senior manager at X, who I worked for for 10 years" (with a little more thought on wording so you on't have 'for for'). The 'outrage' about her CV is entirely manufactured.

Post transcript.

I was quoting myself from one week ago

The majority of Brit/pol/ was backing Leadsom and wouldn't listen to superior pro-Govers like myself

Lads, I'm currently watching BBC Parliament: They're replaying Live coverage of the EU Parliament this week. I have never seen so much asspain from all the European Remainers.

I am as smug as Farage

She's barren

>Lying on her CV

Literally who hasn't done this?

If you don't lie on your CV you don't get the job NEETs

Well as she is my mp
I can say that she is not fit for the job
The police in the area are corrupt letting pedos run amok, covering up robberies and fraud because the criminals are an ethnic group and continuously hiking the areas tax. Getting rid of hospital services when we have enough money to run more than some london boroughs and g4s is replacing the corrupt cops.

>pro-Govers like myself

You are a faggot. Regardless of what you think of his politics, like his support for Brexit and... I guess nothing else, he was never leadership material.

She outright lied in her CV. She's a glorified compliance clipboard holder, not a banker of any kind. And she didn't even do much of that. An admin woman.

Transcript: fuck off, I'm not your google dog.

Watch her 'not get the job' of PM for it.

so what it's so stupid that this is an issue, it's ridiculous that ed milliband was forced to get married.

She doesn't even have any children, Andrea does, that's why it's important to vote Andrea.

>fuck off, I'm not your google dog.
Last refugee of the faggot who's got nothing.

politicians say shit like "as a mother" or "as a parent" involuntarily, it's like a cough or a sneeze to them. It just shows that the media shills are unimaginably desparate for them to seize on a meaningless platitude like that

>Teachers pls go

This is the most stupidest reson not to vote for her.


And you had a lesbian as your PM

Left-wing liberal Blairite who believes in women's equality

When she was Chairman of the Tories she made them "adapt" to Blair's Labour. Essentially giving us two identical parties.

Loves the EU and immigration reached record high numbers when she was Home Secretary.

>Teachers

I don't have a strong opinion about his educational policies. In principle I support them, but they could backfire.

I meant just looking at him. No charisma, terrible speaker, and not popular with the public.

Is this b8 now? given up?
The transcript is public domain, it was released by the Times, played on radio four today. Google it you twat.

She is more vested in the country because her children and grand children have a future in it.

Theresa has no one after her, so there is less incentive for her to make long lasting decisions.

>it's ridiculous that ed milliband was forced to get married.

The couple had two children, one two-years-old before they married. It's a little unusual.

>She's a glorified compliance clipboard holder, not a banker of any kind. And she didn't even do much of that. An admin woman.

You're confusing her PART-TIME role at Invesco Perpetual, which she moved into after HAVING CHILDREN, with her decade at Barclays where she rose quickly through the ranks and was very highly regarded (not to mention being an MD at a hedge fund).


Theresa's record is just a long list of failure on immigration, and betrayals which caused the tragedies we've seen in Rotherham and almost every other part of this country where she hasn't stamped down on immigration.

I disagree about "terrible speaker", I think he's quite good in that regard. He does lack charisma, at least of the sort that Blair and Cameron had, but to me that's actually a huge positive. We don't need figureheads in parliament, that's what the royal family is for, and this desire to usurp them with "prime ministerial" figures is a very unpleasant modern trend.

>once we eventually do leave the EU, freedom of movement will stop

making assumptions. we don't know this yet. Fuck them but eu are saying no trade deals without free movement. Eand even without their petty response we simply don't know the details of our future relationship with the eu.

Campaigned for Remain. Will backslide us into the EEA in a Norway-style deal.

Longest serving and worst Home Secretary in history elected on a manifesto pledge to reduce immigration to tens of thousands. Nevertheless responsible for highest immigration in history.

Childless barren old woman with no stake in the nation's future, similar to Merkel.

Not Mummy.

That sounds awful. And all too familiar.

She'll probably try and ban Sup Forums

>woman
>no kids
>cuckservative

She owns a real estate agency owning properties worth millions of pounds, her brother in law and husband have close connections to the banking and finance industry.

I'm sure her kids will be ok after she's gone.

>otherwise they will be voted out in the next General Election


To who? Pro-EU Lib Dems? Corbyn-led Labour? Farage-less UKIP? The Tories know they don't have to change to win again - that's how the LibLabCon kept getting away with it, as all of them just agreed on every major issue.

If Blairite May is in power, immigration will NOT be cut when we "Leave" the EU (as a Remainer, her understanding of Leave, as evidenced by nonsense comments about using EU citizens as bargaining chips, is nothing like what Andrea and the rest of us want).

'Her new CV also says she worked as “managing director” at De Putron Fund Management, the hedge fund run by her brother-in-law Peter de Putron, after she left Barclays in 1997. But the annual return for the company filed at Companies House in 1999 lists her title as “marketing director” — seemingly a more junior role.'
ft.com/cms/s/0/3a531ec4-4396-11e6-b22f-79eb4891c97d.html#axzz4DuLpfC75

The whole article and the comments below destroy her credibility. You obviously really want to believe, but the people who know, don't.

>Do you feel like a mum in politics? Why and how? How does it affect...?"

>Yes. So really carefully because I don’t know Theresa really well, but I’m sure she will be really sad that she doesn’t have children so I don’t want this to be 'Andrea’s got children, Theresa hasn’t' – do you know what I mean? Because I think that would be really horrible.

>But genuinely I feel being a mum means you have a very real stake in the future of our country. A tangible stake.

The Times
>Being a mother gives me edge on May - Leadsom

The one who gave up was you when you realised you were wrong and tried to pretend copypasting was too much effort.

Shes a nasty bitch

>I disagree about "terrible speaker", I think he's quite good in that regard.

By what standard? If you could find a single well-delivered speech by him, I would appreciate it.

youtube.com/watch?v=1qQL5L31-1E

>at least of the sort that Blair and Cameron had, but to me that's actually a huge positive.

At least like any PM since Thathcher has, and I'd say just about every party leader. Micheal Foot probably had more charisma.

>that's what the royal family is for, and this desire to usurp them with "prime ministerial" figures is a very unpleasant modern trend.

This is a bit delusional. Without a doubt, the image of a party's leader effects voting results, which is all that matters. What your saying is that voters should only care about policies, not experience or image, which, however ideal, isn't realized.

no it isn't

and if it was, so what?

>police and politicians refuse to do anything in fear of being labelled as racist.
>IMMUHGRASHUN

You probably don't even know for a fact that they are immigrants, you just assume any brown people in the UK must be an immigrant.

>You're confusing her PART-TIME role at Invesco Perpetual, which she moved into after HAVING CHILDREN, with her decade at Barclays where she rose quickly through the ranks and was very highly regarded (not to mention being an MD at a hedge fund).


So she's connected to banker ''bonus scum''?

I'm sure Labour won't use this in an election.
I'm sure that voters who through the kindness of their heart bailed out the banks won't hold this against her.
I'm sure Corbyn won't attack her wealth.

all women in politics are
women are in politics solely because they have some mental ''issues'', to put it like that
but to be fair so are many men

Perhaps I'm wrong, but as prestige in society increases, marriage rates increase and the likelyhood of illegitimate children decreases.

If it were usual, Miliband did it to improve it image. I guess it didn't work, lol.

You missed some out though:

"But genuinely I feel being a mum means you have a very real stake in the future of our country. A tangible stake.

"She possible has nieces nephews, lots of people. But I have children who are going to have children who will directly be a part of what happens next.

"So it really keeps you focused on what are you really saying because what it means is you don’t want a downturn - but then 'never mind let’s look to the ten years hence it will all be fine'.

"But my children will be starting their lives in that next ten years so I have a real stake in the next year.”

>The official figures might show a massive increase in immigration but I bet you're just judging it on brown people who might well be the children of immigrants instead you racist
Who the fuck are you trying to convince here?

Where not trying to decide which person would be the best person to make us a roast dinner or to clean dirty nappies.

Not having children is a non issue and a poor reason to not vote against someone, if having children is the main factor for voting for Andrea Leadsom, her credentials are worse than expected.

She's a racist Nazi according to twitter.

Gove is more intelligent than the other leadership candidates. Watching his speeches and listening to his diction confirms this.

I wanted a genius like Gove for PM, not a fucking pretender like Leadsom.

Intelligence is vital in a leader, not "charisma"

you missed the
>woman
>cuckservative
parts
having no children is just another red flag
I can guarantee you she's a shitty person, a power-hungry manipulator who will do anything to get power and anything to retain power
unlike men, women in politics have very few types they fit in
she's something like Merkel
do you like Merkel?

You are right, I missed off the immediately preceding lines where she just repeats:
>But genuinely I feel being a mum means you have a very real stake in the future of our country. A tangible stake.
because they aren't really pertinent, that information had already been conveyed.

>She's nasty
Hot

>She's a nazi
Hotter

Just watch a British Sitcom called The Thick of It.

Pretty much explains the whole shit show.

As Home Secretary she's been very supportive of more internet monitoring and detaining people for longer without trial. To be honest I think the only difference to Cameron is that she's worse at presenting a public image, they both support creeping government authority but May doesn't even try to hide it.

Not that the Conservatives are any good but it's funny how they've been attacked for not having enough female ministers yet are providing our second female PM. It's as if labour supporters use equality as a political tool and don't really care about female social mobility.

That's a point, but despite how good someone might be in theory they also need the support of their fellow politicians or you end up with infighting like Labour under Corbyn. May is pretty shit but her party obviously likes her and she has experience, and stability is pretty important right now, even though we'll get some crappy policies as the price for it.

Excellent show, you should also watch Yes Minister.

youtube.com/watch?v=37iHSwA1SwE

>racist Nazi
youtube.com/watch?v=3i3V8pd6xOg

Watch the first part of this video

How is anyone suppose to know their children who are raised in the UK will turn into rapists? Some of them will bound to turn out bad, this why we have the police. Police not doing their job is what made this terrible mess.

If you don't know whether they are immigrants or not then shut the fuck up.

>Not having children is a non issue


Lol. Not having children - and hence not caring about future generations - is the main reason for Mama Merkel's adoption of one million plus "refugees". Fecund Thatcher, on the other hand, saved this country for future generations.

>Gove is more intelligent than the other leadership candidates

In terms of intelligence, I would consider him weaker than Blair, Brown, and certainly Cameron.

>Gove
>Genius

>not a fucking pretender like Leadsom.
Leadsom is probably worse than Gove, so disagreement there.

>Intelligence is vital in a leader, not "charisma"

This goes to the concern of being a good face for the party and positively or at least neutrally affecting elections. I don't discern any intelligence from Gove's speeches that made him so much eminently greater than the other potential candidates.

That dress is so unbecoming.

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>"She possible has nieces nephews, lots of people. But I have children who are going to have children
>but I have children
>are going to have children

> I don’t want this to be 'Andrea’s got children, Theresa hasn’t' – do you know what I mean?

kek

>She owns a real estate agency owning properties worth millions of pounds, her brother in law and husband have close connections to the banking and finance industry.
>I'm sure her kids will be ok after she's gone.
Maybe you should vote for Cheryl then she has 12 kids.

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>America: On intelligence

Excuse me if I disregard you opinion

We're not talking about previous leaders, we're looking forward and focusing on the current leadership candidates of which Gove was the smartest choice