Is she lying?

Is she lying?

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Most likely. The damage has been done, anyway. They have to go back.

probably

No, Merkel is almost purely a pragmatist. She let migrants in because she saw Germany's aging population, and in her Physical Chemistry PhD mind, she saw it as a simple solution. Now she has realized the errors and is self-correcting.

> Hey guys the ship is sinking but at least we are slowing the flow of water coming in

It's the bone she has to throw to the Bavarian party, legislation it self will probably be pointless in the grand scheme of things, as preventing migrants from getting in is a matter of active foreign policy.

Doesn't matter if they actually agreed on something, since the Greens will block that anyway. Until they resolve that they cannot get the coalition. Re-elections may come.

THIS desu

I wondered if the greens would do that, is it a sure thing, how big are they on the refugee thing?

don't you are tired of her? even the most charismatic leader loses popularity over time

lol do you think every german is a merkel voter

She is in office since 2005.
honestly she should resign and give a chance to a new and young leadership

I know this isn't exactly a official survey but I once left a comment on a German YouTube video sayings something to the effect of "the Germans are good people. a shame what Merkel has done to the country" and I was flooded with so many angry German comments that I had to disable notifications because it was driving me crazy. I always thought majority of Germany was displeased with her but I guess thats only because of Sup Forumss impression of her.

They are the major pushers for the refugee-thing, funny how no-one noticed that they even threw their former secular-atheist stance into the garbage-bin and are stating that they suddenly want to preserve the paragraph about God in our constitution. Also, they are still the reason why we can't send Maghrebis back, because they block such a decision.
Personally? Ofc.
Nationally? 33% are apparently for her stepping down immediately if I remember correctly.

wtf, I hate Gr**ns now

Why do they oppose Maghrebi deportation?

>33% are apparently for her stepping down immediately if I remember correctly.
does the high percentage of people supporting her have anything to with the number of refugees participating in the poll?

Yes. She is a monster with blood in her hands.

I wouldn't even be surprised if they follow the path of their sister-party in Sweden and go full Islamapologist-Islamic.
They are debating since years to consider the Maghreb-states (Morocco, Algeria and Tunisia) as "safe countries", so they can deport turned down asylum-seekers and criminals from there, but the Greens to this day say that these countries aren't safe. Meanwhile, our tourists flock there en-mass (well maybe not to Algeria, but still).

No. That's retarded.
They maybe asking Germans/German Pass-holders with foreign-backgrounds, but even then the major reason is that People see no alternative beside her, because 1. The Alternatives are even more to the left and 2. AfD-leaders are considered Nazis as always. Even though I agree, that the current leaders of the AfD aren't good material or as charismatic either.

>They maybe asking Germans/German Pass-holders with foreign-backgrounds,
*maybe also asking some Germans/ German Pass-holders

Her big mistake was encouraging integration 2bh. Nothing wrong with housing durkas as long as you tell them to get their lazy asses back to their sandbox after the fighting dies down.

she got reelected because it's clear germans have given up on their country

she has flipped a lot on what to do with them and remember this refugee scam was forced on basically all of europe

germans still voted her in after what 11 years? how pathetic

She's trying to get the voterbase she lost back.

new worlders have the dumbest opinions

the germans weren't making computers to win WW2, they were making them to win WW3. Show me evidence that merkel isn't a robot

>blood in her hands
would you please explain

Merkel would not definitely survive because of France and Spain's political instability. Possibly Italy will likely go epic-ly haywire soon.

>France
How so?
>Spain
Dunno, if that will affect her in anyway.
>Italy
Both Lega Nord and the 5-Star-Movement are meme-tier. The best thing they could do is forcefully move all their refugees onto the Austrian and Swiss border.

If anything affecting her, it will be the "Familiennachzug" which will come between November and March, meaning allowing family-members of accepted asylum-seekers left in their home-countries coming here with a flight-ticket financed by the German tax-payer.
Since both politicians and media avoid the topic generally, it will end as a disaster.

Italy's banking sector is on the verge of total failure my dude. The NPL stacks are insane at this point - relative to size, it's almost 100 times what subprime was to the US banking sector. Italy's banks need massive restructuring which requires buy-in from Germany in the form of bailouts.

The Italian Banking question is going to be *the* question of the next five years of European politics. Not migrants.

>The Italian Banking question is going to be *the* question of the next five years of European politics. Not migrants.
FUCKING EUROPEAN BANKS. AGAIN.
AAAAAAAAAAAAA!
If they pull similar shit like the Greek one, I will definitely leave this shithole and never ever come back. Screw them all.

Bit late now, innit.

All the rape victims. Not that i care what happens to wh*tes. But its still sad that muzies are raping kids and no one is doing anything about it

They realized they were going in too strong and needed to cool it a little. They'll make it more gradual but they'll achieve their goal all the same.

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>amerishart gives his retarded opinion on european politics again
That's why people were angry with you, you completely deserved it you retarded sharting faggot.

Notice that she doesn't say **upper** limit.

Obviously. Elections are ahead.

>No, Merkel is almost purely a pragmatist.

Yes

>She let migrants in because she saw Germany's aging population

No. Actually it's just that there is actually nothing else to be done with them. You cannot send them back because either the country is at war or the country does not want them back.

The only other realistic alternative was to setup massive refugee/immigrant camps and keep them there indefinitely. But was that alternative a better one? There are surely negatives. It would cost more money. and it would be a PR disaster for her party.

Realistically it was just the cheapest short term option.

It's even worse than that, my man. With the Greek, Irish, etc banking crises, core EU countries had relatively little exposure due to the small size of the economies going under. Italy is a core EU member and pretty much all the big Northern EU economics (France, the Netherlands, Germany, the UK) are extremely exposed. If Italy goes off, there could be an EU-wide credit crunch that'd be on the level of the US Great Depression.

This is pretty much the worst time for the fractured three-way coalition to be ruling in Germany.

Where do you get shit shit from?

You know that all the American rags you read are going to be insanely negative about, Europe right? It's always doom and gloom from them.

Yes. The rapefugee invasion already mostly ended after Russia stabilized Syria.

Are her lips moving? Then yes!

The Libyan cost guard are also doing their best to stop the boats leaving their shores. I think some secret agreement must have been reached with Italy.

Italy threatened to use military force on the Libyan coast. I think that made the Libyans fear that they Italians would never leave, once the have military presence there so they just scrambled to get that shit in order.

>Libyan Coast Guard

Roving Islamist Gangs on boats*

This isn't American propaganda. Even Macron is aware of how precarious the situation is. Why do you think he's pushing so hard for a fiscal union and more tightly-ineegrated economies?

The proper course of action would be to eat the bad debts, either through something like TARP (which might not even be possible at this point) or through monetization of the debt (expanding the money supply to pay for it and eating the cost through inflation). Macron needs Germany to take a bullet for this to happen, because the Germans *hate* inflation. It fucks with their purchasing power, which is country with a rapidly aging population needs to maintain for pension purposes.

But don't take my word for it. Here's some data on the current NPL stacks clogging up Italian banks.

>If they pull similar shit like the Greek one,

The problem is that Italian banks will definitely pull shit way worse than the Greek one.

But more seriously, you are correct. The Italians began paying the Islamists in the Libyan Civil War to stop the refugee flow and house them in Libya.

Of course, now this new money is being used to fund islamic terror throughout Libya and the Civil war has reignited.

Suffice to say, once things blow up again all those refugees will be flowing to Italy en masse.

Libya was historically very secular, because of Gaddafi and such. I doubt they will suddenly become Islamists.

Europeans got what they deserved for destroying Libya. We don't have to pay the price for that mistake, hahahahaha.

You are paying (bribing) the Green Islamists in West Libya to house the refugees. Many are now being armed and trained as Islamic fighters.

>I doubt they will suddenly become Islamists

LMAO

brookings.edu/wp-content/uploads/2016/07/Libya_Ashour-FINALE.pdf
>Between ISIS and a Failed State

Well shit.

en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Libyan_Islamic_Fighting_Group

Oh, and just for scale - the US bailouts of 2008 totalled about 700 billion dollars. Italian banks currently hold (conservative estimates) about 400 billion dollars of bad assets. The prospective bailout will be about half the size of the US bailout in an economy that's 1/10th the size.