Yeah, start winning meaningless games and torpedo draft positioning!

Idiots. That's why the 49ers are a laughingstock organization

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>get young ELITE starting QB that most teams dream of having
>already winning games with bad team and building great momentum for next two years
>retards already complaining

Higher draft pick has MORE value. They went from having possibly the #1 pick to having the #5 pick.

Many Niner fans also agreed that a 0-16 season would have been the way to go.

Who cares faggot we already have our QB, that's what a top 5 pick would've gone towards anyways.

>he thinks anyone in this draft is worth tanking for
AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH NAME 1 PLAYER

Culture is more important than draft position

When’s the last time the patriots needed a top 5 pick

Imagine tanking your franchise for four years by getting stuck with the salaries of one of the top two bust picks this year. OP is fully retarded. There's a reason winning teams like Patriots avoid first round pick like the plague unless someone they truly love is available.

>Higher draft pick has more value
“Highly informed” ESPN watcher detected

great fucking posts malaysia
op is a brainlet

OR they could’ve traded that #1 pick for multiple future picks...good for a team with multiple holes

You think that this team even with Jimmy is a SB contender? You’re dreaming

They are testing Jimmy to see if he is worth paying huge money for. They don't want to end up Osweilering like the Texans did. This information is worth more than picking a few spots sooner.

They can still trade their number 5 pick or whatever for multiple picks (and they should) which is a million times more valuable with Jimmy G and a team already confident to win than no Jimmy G, first pick, and a Browns tier culture

>beats the Burrs, Toxins, and Tits
>elite

Kek

>beating the bears by one (1) point
>beating the Titans by two (2) points
>beating the Texans by ten (10) points
>meanwhile Bortles ran up 45 points against the Texans before being benched

This dude is mediocre

They already fixed their biggest problem by getting Jimmy though, and there's no point having him sit on the sidelines of a lost season having absolutely no experience with his offensive
Besides, contrary to Sup Forums's belief, no team will deliberately tank, ever. There's too many people playing for their jobs, and having some wins in the late season gives the head coach a bit of credit and might get him to keep his job

Is gridiron a sport where try to play for the win doesn't help to build a better team?

For my understanding the Quarterback is like the maestro from a orchestra, and when a orchestra have a good maestro, it becomes evident who are the musicians that can play at high level, and those who doesn't fit with the others. But, if everything is a mess, you cannot distinguish those who aren't fit to higher level.
Isn't worthy to know what players are working on this team, who should be traded, what positions need to be improved and etc? It would be strange if those thing didn't matter for gridiron.

getting in the habit of winning and being to evaluate your players properly is more important

They are going for a wr or rb, they can win a few games. Bryce Love, Saquon, and any wr's will still be available for them first come first serve.

Fuck off idiot. Winning some games now is key to morale for next season.

If you're a non-skill position player going into offseason workouts would you work harder for a 1-15 team with no hope at QB or a 5-11 team with an elite stud at QB?

eat shit and die

>get franchise quarterback at the cost of losing a chance to gamble on draft picks
>a "bad" thing

you fuckin' moe-moe, they basically drafted a franchise quarterback.

Now youre just talking out of your ass to defend your stupidity...lol

This. With 49ers winning a bunch of games at the end of the season other players and prospects will see excitement and some future promise in the team. A good trade player would be more enthusiastic to join a team that looks on the rise rather than a team with a high draft pick and lots of questions.

Lets see what happens with the 49ers roster in the off-season and leading up to the start of next season.

Yeah being a perpetual 8-8 team sounds appealing

And Jimmy G is going to be an FA so he can still walk AND the Niners have a worse draft pick

Do you guys know how tough the NFC West is? The Seahawks and Rams are going to be fighting for it for years to come

>Have a Stanford-educated GM who played on one of the greatest defensive units of the past 25 years

>trade for the proven best young QB

>suddenly team starts winning as he gets healthy and used to their system

>Fans want "Super" Sam "Fuck It, I'll just be Rex Grossman 2.0" Darnold or Josh Rosen, who'll probably be heading to Jew York one way or another anyways.

Man, the smoke's getting to them...

>perpetual 8-8
assblasted xirhawk fan detected projecting his team's downward spiral onto everyone else

You forgot
>beating the 10-6 lelphins, who were a playoff team
>beating the fully healthy Cardinals the game after they were in the NFC championship in their hoe opener with all the confidence in the world, in Arizona, before injuries and Jimmy G killed their season
>is undefeated with a high school roster and a handful of NFL players
>hand crafted in a secret laboratory by Brady and Belichick
>lost to the...
soyboys already getting salty over the chad Jimmy G

>young
>Jimmy G will be 27 next year

>draft position
Draft position is an overrated meme. Only brainlets who have no idea how to build winning teams believe blowing your load on a high flashy draft pick will turn things around.

Exactly. Why not have some fucking dignity and gain momentum for next year. I fucking hate when teams tank. It doesnt matter where the fuck you land the odds of getting a bust is still the same.

Of course SF fans are ok with going 0-16, you bunch of hippie homos.

This. The teams who scout and know how to identify talent are the ones who win the draft. 60's Packers, 70's Steelers, 80's 49ers, 90's Cowboys, and 2000's Patriots were all built by drafting smart and good FA signings not by some flashy 1st round pick.

>Joe Montana 3rd round pick
>Tom Brady 6th round pick
>Steve Young acquired from Tampa Bay
>Bart Starr 17th round pick
>Terry Bradshaw 1st overall didn't record a winning season until his 3rd year also had the Steel Curtain
>Troy Aikman 1st overall went 0-11 in his first season look up the Herschel Walker trade
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Herschel_Walker_trade

To push the point even further, if drafting a flashy 1st rounder meant salvation then the Browns wouldn't be where they are for the last X years. Grow a pair and some pride SF.

Niners are going to take a weapon on offense. Calvin Ridley? Big redzone target.

Jimmy has no problem moving the ball. We just need to white it up and get ourselves a big white TE and a couple shift slot white WRs.

We Patriots now.

This the 49ers problems are fixable by decent drafting in the later rounds. Game changers are drafted in the 1st round, Championship teams are built in the 2nd-4th or later if you have a really good team drafting.

>acquire solid QB from Patriots, give him starts in an already dead season for experience

Pretty smart desu

Don't you already have a big white rookie TE George Kittle who you drafted in the 5th round? Who from watching replays was key in winning that game against the Tits?

It is actually. It's weird seeing teams return to tried and true methods of team building instead of LOLFUCKIT we've been seeing for years.

>pretty smart
>lose potentially 6 spots in draft positioning
>in a division with the Seahawks and Rams

Smart.

>hurr just tank!
>just tank every year! We Owl bound now!
Retard

Yeah, and about how strong the NFC West is? With as many holes as the Niners have? What about that?

Yeah that's worked out for Cleveland the past 20 years.

What about it? Would you have told me the division would belong to the Rams last year? Would you have told me the 49ers would be a perpetual losing team just three years ago? Teams rise and fall all the time, your shitty first pick bust isn't going to fix any holes on the team, but a good QB, a team that has trust in their QB and is motivated to win, a positive culture of a young team on an upswing can fix a lot of problems very quickly. You sound like a newfag who just started watching football last year and thinks high draft picks are ever the answer, when the actual answer is cheap underpriced hidden gems found in later rounds overlooked by other teams.

And it's funny to hear you spazzing out because they're going to have a very high draft pick anyway.

If you have so many holes it doesn't matter where you land in the 1st round if the 9ers make a decent pick it will be worth it.

Besides neither of those teams are picking before you. Playoff and Super Bowl contenders don't pick high in the first round.

You have Jimmy G so there is a potential Franchise QB.
You have a Big White rookie TE for Jimmy to throw to.
You picked 2 DE's in the 1st round this year.

The 49ers have a foundation to build on. The 49ers even if they win our will get a top 10 pick.

The difference between a 1-2 pick and a 5-7 pick is extremely large. And remember, we have the Seahawks AND Rams to now deal with

The niners have 3 (3) notable holes:
1. EDGE
2. OG
3. CB
honorable mention: WR (easily solved in free agency)

Yes, it is extremely large, you save a large amount of money on the bust you usually get at 5-7 compared to the bust you usually get at 1-2, hence why the Browns are now loaded with talent.

>we have the Seahawks AND Rams to now deal with
You completely missed the point

We got screwed against the rams and competed well against the seahawks. This 49er team with few improvements from the draft and FA could very well win the division or clinch a playoff spot.

It really isn't. Here these are the first 5 picks of every draft in order over the last 10 years.

>2017
Myles Garrett
Mitch Trubisky
Solomon Thomas
Leonard Fournette
Corey Davis

>2016
Jared Goff
Carson Wentz
Joey Bosa
Ezekiel Elliott
Jalen Ramsey

>2015
Jameis Winston
Marcus Marriota
Dante Fowler
Amari Cooper
Brandon Scherff

>2014
Jadeveon Clowney
Greg Robinson
Blake Bortles
Sammy Watkins
Khalil Mack

>2013
Eric Fisher
Luke Joeckel
Dion Jordan
Lane Johnson
Ezekiel Ansah

>2012
Andrew Luck
RG3
Trent Richardson
Matt Kalil
Justin Blackmon

>2011
Cam Newton
Von Miller
Marcell Dareus
A. J. Green
Patrick Peterson

>2010
Sam Bradford
Ndamukong Suh
Gerald McCoy
Trent Williams
Eric Berry

>2009
Matthew Stafford
Jason Smith
Tyson Jackson
Aaron Curry
Mark Sanchez

>2008
Jake Long
Chris Long
Matt Ryan
Darren McFadden
Glenn Dorsey

>2007
JaMarcus Russell
Calvin Johnson
Joe Thomas
Gaines Adams
Levi Brown

>4 years ago
>Do you know how tough the Cards and Niners are?
>They are going to be fighting for it for years to come

NFL is the most erratic sport. The only true dynasty is the Patriots dynasty. Every other franchise has had spurts of greatness followed by mediocrity.

Oh, and Jimmy G's prime won't even start until he hits 30 in 3.5 years.

I love how flyover douchebags are mad that "the least talented squad of all time" is still better than their pathetic teams. Enjoy the basement retard, the nanners are at least getting a WC spot next year.

>he'd rather lose games and draft a rookie than do well with a trained NFL quarterback

Do people really believe Seahawks and Rams have potential dynasties? Once WIlson turns 30 next year he's going to lose his athleticism every year after. He is most effective when he scrambles. I predict he falls hard in his 30s.

Also, Goff is elite? Gurley is the one carrying the team. And we all know how long running backs last in this league.

>Do people really believe Seahawks and Rams have potential dynasties?
The assblasted xecuck manchildren feigning concern over draft position ITT thread do

This all day. They were losing really tight games against good teams early in the season.

Good luck trying to beat the Rams and Seahawks, the latter which is a proven winner year after year

>the latter is a proven winner year after year
>one super bowl win
>not even making the playoffs this year

You're either falseflagging or a really good Seacucks fan impersonator.

Seahawks are getting old and falling off. They put themselves in cap hell their window is closing. Rams on the other hand are young so yeah, but the 49ers took them to the edge earlier this year and play them New Years eve.

It worked for the jags
You're looking at it wrong. You don't actually use that pick, you trade it to a stupid team for even more picks further back in the draft. Worked pretty well for the Titans, they're an above average team now after being garbage for years

>those god awful 2007 and 2012 drafts

>trade it to a stupid team for even more picks

Niners already did that last year.

Browns have 2 top 5 picks this year. I bet you could get one of them.

>Antonio Brown 6th round
>Shannon Sharpe 7th round
>Darius Slay 2nd round
>Drew Brees 2nd round
>Kurt Warner Undrafted
>Tom Brady 6th round
>Brett Favre 2nd round
>Charles Haley 3rd round
>Bob Hayes 7th round
>Johnny Unitas 9th round
>Roger Staubach 10th round
>David "Deacon" Jones 14th round
>Bart Starr 17th round
>Warren Moon undrafted
>John Randle undrafted
>Dick "Night Train" Lane undrafted

All I'm trying to say is if your team is banking everything on GOAT 1st round talent you should be really worried.

Does everyone also not realize Garoppolo is a FA at the end of the season?

It's easy to say that in hindsight, but both those drafts seemed like the best of their time when it was going on

You're a deluded retard if you don't think he's getting a long term deal.

Now post all the top 5 pick successes

See which list is longer

Are you telling me that anyone can Out tank the Browns?

Out of all the Super Bowls played
27 were won by 1st rounder
only 15 were won by 1st overall.
24 were won by QBs picked after the 1st round.

Considering that 30-35 is when a lot of QBs peak I'd say he's still young.

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