In this thread we feel bad for the Finns for not being European, Russian, Nordic, Baltic and especially not Mongol. Unlike other European nations, the Finn has been completely geographically cut off from mainland Europe with the vast Baltic Sea, Russia and the unforgiving North.
The Finn lives on his small island and thinks what he wants to be. But he will never find the answer, because he is a Finn. This makes the Finn an extremely dangerous and unreliable partner as he might change his identity on a whim and collaborate with your enemy.
Don't mistake the Estonian with a Finn, because the Estonian is a European, finds no shame in his Germanic cultural heritage and is a reliable partner for those whom he deems as worthy.
Estonians are about 40% Balto-Slavic and only 7% Germanic. I'm well versed in haplogroups by the way.
Ryan Rivera
Fuck Finland.
Carter Scott
finland is balto-slavic
Luke Campbell
Finns are Finns
Joseph Ward
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Daniel Smith
Finns...
Matthew Mitchell
That guy looks Slavic to my eyes
Bentley Thompson
t. mushroom seller
t. kang
Jack Stewart
A lot of false generalization there, but a good overall shitpost.
Kevin Gonzalez
What do Google mean by his?
Jose Sanders
lol, you and Finns are the same people
Dominic King
No.
The Finn is a Finn, he lives on his genetic and cultural island and completely refuses to choose a side or assimilate (and by extension is destined to choose ALL sides in the future).
The Estonian is a European.
Joseph Collins
>finds no shame in his Germanic cultural heritage You guys are such cucks for germans. Holding SS parades the same people who had plans to relocate you from your own country and germanize the rest
Chase Carter
He doesn't look Slavic at all, a typical Fingoloid more like.
Jonathan Long
Dude, Estonian is a finnish dialect
Charles Evans
t. never seen any Slavs
Having chinked out eyes is typical for Balto-Slavs
Julian Bennett
The SS parades are infrequent and quite shameful events for either military veterans or fringe groups like the American tiki-torch carrying larpers.
There is nothing wrong with Germanic culture, genes or language. Hitler only wanted to ethnically cleanse the state from invaders (Soviet occupants). This is a historical fact.
Asher Nguyen
He had plans for something much more, the soviet deportations were nothing compared to what General plan Ost had to offer >Germanic culture Sure thing buddy, when you don't have your own culture. It makes sense.
Brayden Wilson
Axing strangers in the head and destroying yourself because of Godlessness is not our culture. Our high culture is Germanic and originates from Germany and Sweden. We find no shame in it.
Levi Martin
I've seen many Slavs, and they look nothing like that (Russians excluded as they have admixture from Uralic peoples). Many Finns, on the other hand, do look like that.
Dominic Allen
Estonians don't have Germanic genes.
Joseph Brown
Eh, that delusion. The only possible response from you would be an old picture of that boy with big ears even though he's not slavic.
Mason Cooper
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Noah Rodriguez
Tolerant google wants us to think finns and niggers are people too.
Jason Sullivan
Sure we don't Pekka.
Jason Carter
Only thing you kalevi kääbiks can be relied on is the fact that you come to steal shit to finland and end up in our prisons
Swedes whipped Finns up to work and brought culture.
My heart cannot bear the thought of a Finland without Swedes. The stabbing sprees alone would have decreased the population to a small angry nativist circle, ripe for merciless colonization.
Leo Bailey
Picrel are Estonians.
Camden Green
Very interested in the subject of Finland not
Brayden Green
The fact that this board is obsessed with us proves that we are metahumans.
Angel Brooks
>Implying uraloids are Russians. Is that what they teach you in school?
Oliver Reyes
Saaremaa is inbred. It's the Finland of Estonia.
Daniel Hill
No they don't. It is common knowledge that whatever slant eyed subhuman looks one might come across in the Northwestern territories of the former Rus' can only be from Uralic admixture.
Jose Wood
y-you will never insert it into my Europe.
Carson Rivera
Can you provide an example?
Brody Jones
Read my post again carefully, moron.
Chase Gutierrez
>Northwestern territories of the former Rus
That would be Uppsala
You're a typical delusional Russkie. Anyway, Russkies have more Tatar blood in them than Uralic.
>That would be Uppsala No. >You're a typical delusional Russkie Nah, I'm just a realist. Slovaks are pure Slavs and you won't find the Mongoloid Uraloid types in their midst. >Anyway, Russkies have more Tatar blood in them than Uralic. Probably, but Tatars don't look like the Uraloid subhuman you posted.
Hunter Jones
You guys are alright in my book. Just don't stop speaking Russian in Tallin pls.
Luke Lopez
Doesn't even come close to this
Connor Cruz
Rus were from Sweden. Ilmen Slavs were their slaves. That's just reality.
Tatars have 4 times more Mongoloid blood than Finns. The reason they don't have Lappoid(your idea of Uralic) appearances is simple, they don't descend from borealized NE European hunter gatherers nor did the original Uralics.
Wyatt Lopez
>admixture from uralic peoples You called people with uralic admixture "Russians". Russians don't fuck "uralic peoples". Got any pics of what you've encountered?
Noah Bennett
Yeah Russian women fuck Chechens and Russian men die from alcohol poisoning at 16
Austin Fisher
everyone in russia are russian according to us. no one in real life spergs about tatars or uralics or what ever t. other
Jaxon Anderson
Everyone can see how you get gradually desperate. Lol dumb mongoloid.
Alexander Baker
>Rus were from Sweden And yet none of them carry Germanic Y-DNA. >Tatars have 4 times more Mongoloid blood than Finns. It's a different kind of Mongoloid though, Tatars derive their Asiatic admix from Altai. >The reason they don't have Lappoid(your idea of Uralic) appearances is simple, they don't descend from borealized NE European hunter gatherers nor did the original Uralics. Uralids and Lappids are way more borealized than your average Eastern European, the Western Sibirids Finns share their Mongoloid DNA with also have very round faces.
Brody Price
Ok, thanks for the insight.
Logan Gutierrez
This is something Russian anons have admitted on Sup Forums
Jaxon Rivera
What about the Finnic tribes of the Rus'? If Slavs were slaves to "Swedish" Rus', what does that make Finns?
Luis Wright
>And yet none of them carry Germanic Y-DNA.
10-20% carry Germanic Y-DNA
Brandon Harris
Do you think we care
We are Finns that's enough
Jordan Gonzalez
>And yet none of them carry Germanic Y-DNA.
N1c is Finnic or not Finnic only based on how convenient it is for your Balto-Slavic agenda.
You've previously disagreed with Balts having Baltic-Finnic Y-DNA.
>It's a different kind of Mongoloid though, Tatars derive their Asiatic admix from Altai.
Nope. Their Asian admixture is a combination of more recent Chinese stuff and older Siberian.
Henry Taylor
Nope.
Alexander Stewart
Yep.
Tyler Jenkins
Nuh-uh.
Ethan Ward
I recall Karelians raiding Byzantine empire together with Rus. They must've been allies.
Joseph Diaz
do only I see dick in the pic? it is important
Hunter Powell
"Russian" anons on Sup Forums are kikes and other minorities. How new are you?
Owen Myers
>Estonia >Nordic
Tyler Mitchell
>N1c is Finnic or not Finnic only based on how convenient it is for your Balto-Slavic agenda. Wrong, it is fact that Rurikid N1c is from an entirely different branch from Finns that has more to do with Balts. >Nope. Their Asian admixture is a combination of more recent Chinese stuff and older Siberian. No, just Central Asian with perhaps some Siberian from the neighbouring Uralic peoples. Point is that Central Asian Mongoloids aren't as borealized as Uraloids, and the borealized types you find in their midst are most definitely of Sibero-Uralian origin.
Elijah Reed
Russia is a melting pot of nations anyway. To contest the notion will land you in prison. Rus people have not ran Russia a long time now.
Zachary Richardson
Nice fantasy, but something something glass houses etc
Matthew Scott
Who would want to be a part of some gay transnational identity anyway? Finns are Finns.
Elijah Perez
>Wrong, it is fact that Rurikid N1c is from an entirely different branch from Finns that has more to do with Balts.
I've explained to you before that Finns have both branches and the ancestral types of Baltic and Rurikid N1c.
The eastern Finnish(Savonian) genetic bottleneck was too extreme so only one type of N1c made it through it and the Savonians are responsible for a fuckton of paternal lines all over Finland.
>No, just Central Asian with perhaps some Siberian from the neighbouring Uralic people
>while a different subset (including all Iron Age samples) also have ancestry from a component (light blue) that is maximized in the Nganasan (Samoyedic people from north Siberian), and is pervasive across diverse present-day people from Siberia and Central Asia. Additionally, the Iron Age samples reveal an ancestral component that is maximized in East Asian populations (yellow), a type of ancestry that occurs at trace levels—if at all—among earlier steppe inhabitants, consistent with the observations from PCA and f-statistics about this type of admixture.
The yellow shit is not from the Altai. It's Chinese.
Leo Jackson
He looks like an elf in Oblivion
Jordan Butler
>I've explained to you before that Finns have both branches and the ancestral types of Baltic and Rurikid N1c. So do Balts and Russians in all likelihood. >The yellow shit is not from the Altai. It's Chinese. Some Iron Age samples won't prove Tatars have anything to do with them, also the "yellow" component is rather minimal going by this image. My original point still stands, Tatars could've only gotten their borealized looks from Uralo-Sibirids.
Jeremiah Peterson
>So do Balts and Russians in all likelihood.
Balts don't. Russians have even Finland specific lines from 17th century so of course they have everything that Finns have at a vanishing frequency.
Modern day Tatars have excess East Asian admixture compared to the late, pre-Turkic Scythians.
Carson Hughes
why are finns so hellbent on wewuzzing rurik?
Owen Ortiz
Literally one Finn on Sup Forums.
Xavier Gonzalez
No one is doing that. This wewuz guy thinks Rurik was Slavic.
Swedes have always had an injection of Finnic blood in Central/Northern Sweden. N1c is the most natural haplogroup for a Swede to have.
Gavin Davis
>Balts don't. They probably do, they just haven't tested enough people. >Russians have even Finland specific lines from 17th century so of course they have everything that Finns have at a vanishing frequency. Finns have nothing to do with the ancestral Baltic and Rurikid N1c though. >Modern day Tatars have excess East Asian admixture compared to the late, pre-Turkic Scythians. But it is of Central Asian origin, it's also reflected in their Y-DNA (R1a-Z93 predominates amongst Tatars).
Adam Thomas
Either Slavic or Baltic.
Jaxson Sanchez
Don't care. Finns are finns. Belonging to a group of other ethnic identities means you've become un-unique
Also
>Being proud of being fucked by Teutons for millennia and after that being literally fucked by Russians for 200 years.
Dude like lmao your quarter russian shitgenes weren't even important enough for a grand-duchy title and crypto-independence.
Tyler Stewart
But many Finns have already tested positive for the ancestral type.
The Okunevo and Karasuk samples in the picture were mixed with an intrusive Amerindian related population from NE Siberia with haplogroup Q who mixed with the Andronovo in the Altai.
Modern day Turkic people are not a simple mixture of Andronovo and Karasuk but have additional East Asian admixture. It has nothing to do with Central Asia but is intrusive there.
Hudson Gray
>my identity is built around the collective of countries surrounding me SMALL COUNTRY MENTALITY
Carson Moore
Uniqueness isn't something inherently great, in fact I'd argue that's why Finns are so insecure about their country in the first place.
Michael Cook
>Russian genes are shit >Finnish genes are good Autism is curable in 2017. How could you loose connection with reality like that?
Joshua Bennett
>Russian genes are shit
Yeah, they're a mix mash of the ugliest phenotypes known to mankind and upped with a three figure number.
You have to go to a next level cherrypicking if you're to convince me russia has anything else beautiful apart from girls.
Parker Cox
South Finns are the least tainted people in the whole europe. Least asian and nigger blood.
Unfortunately because of that we sometimes come across as arrogant but it is what it is.
William Sanders
If N1c can be Balto-Slavic then I1 can be Proto-Indo-European.
Nathan Martin
based thank you. i knew there had to be reason why i felt better than the rest humans on this earth.
Blake Hill
>But many Finns have already tested positive for the ancestral type. That doesn't mean it stems from Finns. >Modern day Turkic people are not a simple mixture of Andronovo and Karasuk but have additional East Asian admixture. It has nothing to do with Central Asia but is intrusive there. Obviously, but that East Asian admixture stems from miscegenation with Xiongnu Mongoloids and Mongolians. It has nothing to do with Chinks.
Ryan Scott
Wrong, N1c can be Baltic / Slavic just like I1 can be Finnic / Germanic.
John Bell
>sweden >2.5% west asian disgusting
>south finn >1.0% west asian damn swedish people tainting our blood
Jackson Morales
>"ITS A CHERRYPEEEKENG!!!!" Aha, fuck off mongoloid.
Hunter Ross
my name literally means "gift of god". noice.
Ryan Ramirez
This backs up other data which shows SW Finns as about half North-East Finn, half foreign.
N1c is a natural thing for a Swede to have as there's been Finnic and Finnish influence there for about three thousand years. It's not necessarily Germanic but it's as authentically Swedish as it gets. Finnish blood makes Swedes what they are.
Thomas Parker
>N1c is a natural thing for a Swede to have as there's been Finnic and Finnish influence there for about three thousand years. N1c has been in Russia for a similar period of time also.
Jackson Gomez
cringe
David Anderson
>cringe
William Edwards
The family tree of Baltic N1c from 2700 BC
1. Chukchi/Turks/Buryat N-Y16323 2700 BC 2. Komi N-Y28526 2000 BC 3. Finland/Karelia N-CTS9976/N-L1022 1700 BC + Finland/Estonia/Sweden N-L1022 1000 BC 5. Finland/Sweden N-L550 900 BC 6. Finland N-M2783* 700 BC(senior to all Balto-Slavic N1c)
That point on is where it starts to look Balto-Slav specific and Rurik is not from this branch.