Pic rel is my idea of scandinavia. thoughts?

also, notice how the name "denmark" doesn't fit overlayed on it's own territory on a world map. what a non-country! Jeez.

That's a good idea you have.

That's not Scandinavia, Rahmed.

Great idea, Sweden is the king of North Europe.

so basically the green part is scandinavia while the big blue blob is the designated bull-prepping zone?

Can you leave our Karelia alone please thank you

Fuck off

KOLA BELONGS TO THE KARJALANS BELONGS TO THE FINNS BELONGS TO THE SWEDES BELONGS TO THE DANES.

Kola was swedish for 100 years only when they stole it from us in late 1500's yes thank you very much

pls giv kola back

Nobody but reindeer shagging samis lived even near that area before that, Vladislav.

Finland should be land locked. They're not sea people.

Does anybody else think Finland looks like a ballsack?

What a joke of a "country" lmao

birger jarl þen vise man
han låt stockholm stad at byggia
mz dighirt wiþ oc mykin hyggia
eþ fagert hvs ok en godhan stadh
alla leedh sva giort som han badh
þz er lås före þen siö
sva at karela offra þem enga oroo

>alla
Inshalla
>byggia
>hyggia
Ayo hol up

How about you leave Karelia alone for a change?

birger jarl the wise man
he let build stockholm
with much wismdom and kindness
a beautiful house and a good town
everyoen did what he asked
it was laid before a lake
so that the karelens gave him no issues

fixed

switzerland looks like a cumstain lmao

Completely agree with you

I'm perfectly fine with this if we call it Uleåborg

Second.

but if it's oulu then their army's war chant can be OULUOULUOULUOULUOULUOULUOULUOULUOULUOULUOULUOULUOULUOULUOULUOULUOULUOULUOULUOULUOULUOULUOULUOULU

How about NIET?

We wouldn't let them have an army and they wouldn't want one

they would want one

and swedsh "men" would BOW to their Oulu demigod masters

this is the best scandinavia you can come by

>sweden balkanized
>finngols ready to ward off russia
>old norwegian colonies back where they belong
>denmark with their old borders

I think it would be best if we put Sven out of his misery and split Sweden between us like this.

This

>our karelia
Lmao. Karelia is for the Karelians and the Veps (and the tribes inbetween)

>gotlann belongs to the danes
???
nice try ola

that's like the linguistic borders in 814 AD

No, they are all for us, just like you are.

I can't be bothered to look up borders but this should be good enough to give the basic idea

For me it's this.

Sweden doesn't need to be that fat that far north, they historically only belong on the coast. The rest is stolen land from the Saami. Even if you don't want to give away Norway, you can give away most of northern Sweden and maybe a small strip of land to the ocean so they can use boats

Yes like Russia never stole any of it's clay

Not sure what you mean.

Look at my map.

People accuse Norway of stealing coast from Sweden, but actually it's Sweden who stole land from Saami. Sweden and Norway should mirror each other in the northern parts, both only following the areas close to the coast, with a huge Saami blob in the middle.

What I mean is, Sweden shouldn't get to enjoy the iron money from Kiruna. Take that away from them.

But your map is basically giving northern norway to Sami people when they are a tiny minority there. I was just being nice and gave them Kola, but in fact they don't have ownership to jack shit. In my own fantasy I will never give them even a tiny flick of land in Norway. And I'm not very into giving from Sweden and Finland either desu, but we could talk about that.

>defending sami

Nice country larp thread, fucking losers

I guess I was more following the line of ideal population sizes. It's impossible to fix present population imbalances, this would be more for how it should have been or something. Norway doesn't have much history of permanent settlements north of Harstad region. We do have an old history there, but some compromises have to be made. I'm also giving Norway Sami land in the southern parts. The problem is too much interaction between the different groups in the southern coastal region, with paths crossing each other. They do deserve coast in Trondelag for example, but at the same time that would cut off parts of land that has long history of being Norwegian as well.

Okay, at least even in present day there would be no problem with giving away inner Finnmark, but yeah ideally if Norway didn't colonize Finnmark and take their land maybe they could have had a population and strength to be independet at least in parts.

It's a bit problematic to discuss Sami as one unit though. But they are small and weak, and could give some strength, and also I'm too lazy to read up on different Sami cultures. At least two or maybe three countries could be reasonable though.

I just decided to end Norway around the Bådåddjo region, so they get the fjord where E6 is broken and everything north, but still give Norway Lofoten because of the great historical importance of the region, and Lofoten needs boats anyway. Then the Sami get coast at Tysfjord and to the north of there, and Norway can keep Lofoten.

when i was a kid i used to think the entire horses head belonged to sweden

Norwegian hunter gatherers were in finnmark before samis came to europe some 2000 years ago bringing the N-haplotype. I don't care if we didn't have large populations up there in finnmark, in my mind it's ours de jure as well as de facto. But each to his own. I think it's nice that you care for them enough to give them our land. I would never.

FUCK OFF

Saami have been in Europe way longer than 2000 years. That's just propaganda to make them seem less worthy of rights.

Well at least I care about their language, but yeah would be nice if traditional Saami culture survived in a modern form too. Their language can never survive in Norway if they aren't given a strong economic core and that's bad, and this would help, but more culture is also good.

dummy

nah it's rightful swedish clay

I don't know where you get that from, I haven't read any propaganda anywhere about this. I only see that dna studies are telling us how long they've been there. Also the typical Sami features starts to appear in material from around 0 BC or a little before. DNA and archeology is in an agreement, and that's pretty compelling.

Lmao. Saved.