All-Time Worst

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Could the 2017 Browns beat the 2008 Detroit Lions?

>tfw two of the four teams are Detroit teams

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At least Detroit won a preseason game

Fun fact: The Capitals were so bad, it caused the NHL to stop a planned 1976 expansion to Seattle and Denver.

The NHL has had teams that have been abysmal at times, like the early “new” ottawa senators, 2014-2015 buffalo sabres, and the aforementioned capitals in the beginning of their franchise.

The browns are a case of futility in almost EVERY season, which is pathetic. Even in other sports, this kind of futility can be unheard of unless it’s baseball where playoffs are rare

wait what? sauce?

This is goal differential graph I made.

One of the seasons had the capitals going -400 some goals. You may also see some other shitty nhl teams as they started out.

You can read about it on wikipedia. Technically, it wasn't completely the reason. The Seattle ownership group that was awarded a team missed a payment deadline. Which the NHL used as an excuse to cancel the bid for both teams. Denver would end up with the relocated KC Scouts, ironically from the 1974 draft, instead. Before the Scouts relocated, Denver was rumored to be getting the Golden Seals and Seattle would get the Pittsburgh Penguins in order to offset the lost of the 1976 expansion teams. Alas, the Pens stayed and the Golden Seals went to Cleveland instead. Which was a bad move in retrospect, because the Cleveland team folded after two seasons.

Speaking of bad teams in general, there are a shit ton of interesting failed relocation nuggets around the internet. Like the Blues moving to Saskatoon, the Patriots moving to St. Louis in the early 90's, and a complex deal that nearly happened in 1975 between the white Sox and A's after Bud Selig bought the Seattle Pilots and relocated them to Milwaukee. The White Sox would relocate to Seattle and then the A's would swoop into Chicago and take the Sox' place.

>And by virtue of point differential (the Lions were outscored by 249 points during their winless season), Detroit is considered the worst team in NFL history.
How the fuck are the 2008 Lions considered the worst team in history when the 1976 Bucs lost all of their games (0-14), with an even WORSE point differential than the 2008 Lions (-287). And for the Bucs to have a worst point differential during a time when seasons were shorter, means that the Bucs lost those 14 games by even bigger margins.

This entire article is horseshit. No one with an opinion worth respecting actually believes the 2008 Lions were worse than the 1976 Buccaneers.

The 2017 Browns don't have a defining horrible play like the '08 Lions did.

Also, the '76-'77 Buccaneers were much, much worse than either or those teams put together

If you include the past season, the 2016-17 Browns have gone 1-31 so far compared to the 2-26 of a literal expansion team.

>The 2017 Browns don't have a defining horrible play like the '08 Lions did

that QB sneak to end the first half against the Lions is one of the defining legacies of this team

>team leaves chicago
>another team replaces them in chicago at the same time
For what purpose

I didn't even mention Toronto and Edmonton seriously considering flipping teams. not just relocating one to another city, but a straight franchise trade. The Edmonton Leafs and the Toronto Oilers.

The 60s-80s were a magical time for relocations. It was before things became so interconnected and before the age of social media.

>worse baseball team
>not the 20 win 1899 Cleveland Spiders

At least the Tigers turned around and made it to a World Series 3 years later beating the early 00's Yankees and A's. Lions though... 0-16 gave us Stafford at least it ended our QB drought.

This Browns this is much better than that Lions team. That Lions team was unbelievably terrible and had no talent outside of Megatron.

This Browns team has a good running game, when they choose to use it, and a good run D.

>The 60s-80s were a magical time for relocations. It was before things became so interconnected and before the age of social media
>It was before things became so interconnected and before the age of social media
>things became so interconnected and before the age of social media
You could've just said "cocaine."

Im with ya. The state of Michigan is more college football centric and the tigers have been great since then.

>Implying that 2007/08 Derby County weren't the worst team of all time, anywhere, in any sport

>FK /our guys/ Dainava
>Tasmania Berlin
>Benisvento

There are shit teams everywhere. But Cleveland is somehow shit forever.

Because it's current year and the Loins had 2 more chances to win a game.

The thing is that all those teams will be punished for being shit with a relegation, browns will instead be rewarded with a 1st pick that they will waste for the 100th time. I'm not even shitting on the draft system, it helps to balance things out, see how the loins have gone from their 0-16's season to today, but >browns are a special kind of failure that deserve to be nuked completely.

Meanwhile, back in 1936 Detroit;

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Champions_Day

The Browns should be relocated again.

For anyone who hasn't seen it
youtu.be/_gZndxEvFNk

> The thing is that all those teams will be punished for being shit with a relegation

Relegation only works of you have 9000 different leagues like soccer.