French Guiana

Has anyone here ever been to French Guiana? What was it like? It boggles my mind that as a European citizen, I could just legally move and work there, in South America

>It boggles my mind that as a European citizen, I could just legally move and work there, in South America
Or you could come to Brazil.
Do you realize that there is a bunch of dutch islands in the Carib, right?

Yeah but I'm a German expat and Aruba, Curacao and Sint Maarten aren't part of the EU.
I don't really know about the Dutch special communities, but I think they are equally autonomous

Just looked it up, they're not in the EU either.

France is unique in that they have a lot of territories being "proper parts" of France.
Other nations have granted their overseas territories autonomy (as far as I know, even if I was a Dutch citizen, I'd need a visa for the Dutch overseas territories)

I don't know much about French Guiana, but:
>most of the country is a malaria jungle. And no, they will not change that!
>they use euro, but things are probably more expensive than in mainland europe because they don't produce shit.
>if you expect France in America, you come to the wrong neighborhood m8. They demographic is not French at all. (50~60% is black and 15% is white)

Do you know about jobs and the like? I know of the ESA base and that they now have a small university

Not him, but French Guyana is a meme country. They have it so they can launch their rockets, but that's it. No one ever talks about Guyana here in South America, because there's nothing to talk about.

>Yeah but I'm a German expat and Aruba, Curacao and Sint Maarten aren't part of the EU.
>Sint Maarten
That's some fucking weird shit, man. It's one island, but half is French and the other half "Dutch". The "Dutch" half isn't part of the EU, but the French half is. You can fucking cross in and out of the EU on an island on the other side of the ocean. And I think one half uses the euro but the other doesn't. I wonder if the "Dutch" inhabitants need a Visa to visit the French ones or something, as they're technically an EU country from a non-EU country.

Yes, and they use the guilder (or some form of it) while Aruba uses the florin and Bonaire, Sint Eustatius and Saba (being PROPER PARTS of the European Netherlands!) use USD

What the fuck

Still, Dutch canal houses in the Carribean style look very funny to me. And oddly fitting.

A LOT of brazilians go there because they receive in euro (working as temp employers).
Don't know how is the prospects for a well educated fellow there...

Its mostly black people with 60% unemployment and expensive everything, I let you guess how enjoyable it is to live with violent people that can't afford to buy things if you are privileged

>They demographic is not French at all. (50~60% is black and 15% is white)
Sounds totally French to me

Fucking hell. Didn't they have widespread protests for more autonomy not long ago? How the fuck do they think they'll survive...

Maybe in the worst part of Paris.

Emigrating to France, like Algerians do.

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Kek. And isn't Aruba its own kingdom or something like that

Nah, it's very odd, the Dutch have their own idiosyncratic way to grant people autonomy...
There's the Netherlands in Europe, but that territory is actually a part of a bigger entity called "The Kingdom of the Netherlands". Sort of a federal kingdom with equally entitled parts.

So I guess you could say theoretically Aruba is as politically important inside the Kingdom as the Netherlands (although factually they absolutely aren't)

This shit is fucking retarded though, and leads to shit like Sint Maarten demanding help from the Netherlands after a disaster. because "we're all the Netherlands". This whole "Kingdom of the Netherlands" construct is utterly fucking stupid.

Well if they are part of your country why wouldn't they ask for help after a disaster

You guys should re-allocate all the nigs in a single island and keep the rest as the true Dutch over seas territories.

seems like they just got teleported from 1800s and repainted

but yeah they do seem properly fitting

I don't know, how else do you want to manage overseas territories? As far as I see it the British way of granting them autonomy while letting the central government decide over foreign relations and military defence isn't that different from the Dutch way, only that weirdly enough, the "motherland" is on equal footing with the other territories.
But as said, they're still part of the country. Either go with the French and incorporate them fully into the Netherlands so that they are just another province or make them fully independent. There's not really a middle way of "keeping them" but not having to help them out.

Any EU citizen can settle and work in Guadeloupe and Martinique

The British way works because the islands are filled with British people who don't want to lose they sea pride nor the gibs.

Do you think that someone would let the Falklands be Argentine? Even the Argentine people there pretend to be British.

Any EU citizen can also come to Brazil :3

You still need a work visa, don't you?

I don't think ethnicity has much to do with it, it's more about money. The British are similar in the way, that St Helena, Ascension, the South Sandwich Islands or the Pitcairn Islands sure as hell don't give a profit.
As you said, it's mostly prestige, pride, whatever you want to call it.

Those visas are just to keep niggers away.
There a lot of ways to acquire full Brazilian citizenship. (hell, you can even "marry a Brazilian guy" and get your citizenship.
Our permits are kind of a joke too. If someone simple stay here for 15 years, automatically he is brazilian by law. You someone from your family retire in brazil with a good income, his entire family can get citizenship. Want to open a business? free citizenship.

>ywn get gibs just because you happen to live in one of the best place to launch rockets

I rather give a island to to EU just to watch those niggers starve.
Pic related. Exactly over to equator line and without natives/blacks. You guys can chose what ever you like more.

Go ahead, chose one to lunch your rockets.

Why do you hate them?
Also keep your islands, all the infrastructure is already built in Kourou and it would be too expensive to rebuild another space center, same reason as to why the russians still use Baïkonour.

You don't know how cost to keep it inside the malaria ridden jungle.

Also, i don't hate them. I just wanted to contribute with international space program. :3

Because they're not part of my country. Kingdom of the Netherlands =/= Netherlands, as retarded as it may be.

>Why do you hate them?
Probably because it's all-round better than Brazil. A slightly less butthurt version of the Argentina-Falklands thing.
>B-But muh Malaria ridden jungle
Why do you think almost everyone lives near the coast?

Decolonization was a mistake
Either decolonize all of it or keep everything