How can you prove that it's genes giving blacks lower IQ's, and not simply black ghetto culture?
Race and intelligence
Nicholas Jones
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Kevin Anderson
Case-Controlled study in which blacks and whites are compared that have the same socioeconomic background and educational opportunities.
Mason Campbell
Blacks adopted by whites still test lower than their peers
that's why it's called a "persistent" racial gap, it persists even when controlling for all other factors
Jaxon Collins
But if they subscribe to different cultures, that won't prove anything
Brody Edwards
if they are as capable as whites why does Africa look like it does?
Kevin Roberts
Culture
Brayden Taylor
Genes influence culture. Retard.
Michael Taylor
But where is your proof?
James King
>citation needed
Yeah I see what you mean. But to be able to accurately study the effect of culture on intelligence you need some way to objectively measure culture. Which is impossible.
Carter Garcia
Right here faget
Juan Butler
The fact that blacks live all over the world yet and poor, violent and unsuccessful everywhere.
Isaiah King
You guys are all incredibly stupid. Great scientists such as Bill Nye prove that race is a human construct. We are all one race! If they are stupid then we are stupid!
Wyatt Martinez
Minnesota transracial adoption study. Rushton's measurement of brain volume by race. Come on Sup Forums get your hatefacts down.
Grayson Evans
And blacks everywhere also subscribe to ghetto culture
Gangster rap is promoted all over the world
But Rushton is a white nationalist, how do we trust such a man's research?
And even if black babies are being raised in white households, they will still be sucked into black ghetto culture to a degree
Brayden Cooper
So are all breeds of dog the same race? I think we call those subspecies.
Kayden Edwards
Hello friend.
Reading all of those should be a decent introduction to the subject.
Dylan Sanchez
So you're argument is that every nigger or mixed-race individual subscribes to black culture, regardless of upbringing. If that's true, then it doesn't matter if it's genetics or culture. They're still destined to have the iq of a chimpanzee, and should be treated like the animals they are.
Landon Hughes
Not all of them are, just enough to drag the average down
Gavin Taylor
Do you trust the methodologies of these studies? Do you trust that if they were repeated they would have the same results?
Seems like confirmation bias.
Cameron Hughes
If he was going to be biased, why would he concede that east asians are more intelligent. So he has a unique bias towards blacks alone?
Henry Morales
Blacks have the same IQ and crime rates all over the world, regardless of income, type of government, or upbringing.
Julian Cruz
Is it their culture to not be able to count change or form a rational thought?
No, I believe their lack of an fya gene is key here.
Kevin Allen
Probably to give his arguments credence.
Jeremiah Walker
You say that, but where is your proof?
Sebastian Butler
Link between brain size and intelligence
Blacks have smaller brains
Less folds
Less neurons
Less neuron connections
Just accept it, and start thinking how to fix it.
and if you tell me brain size is 100% environmental instead of tens of thousands years of evolution you should literally kys
Carson Evans
But women have smaller brains, and women can be very intelligent.
So obviously it's not just a strict link between brain size and IQ, there are other factors involved
You're simplifying things
Oliver Lewis
Can you show evidence of this? I want atleast 10,000 brains sampled.
Wyatt Robinson
Some women are smart
Therefore all women all smart
Some blacks are smart
Therefore all blacks are smart
lol
And i'm not simplifying things, Their culture is a results of their intelligence.
Whats your other explanation? Racism everywhere?
Benjamin Turner
Their destructive culture
Elijah Gray
Why would that give the credence? You still dismissed him as a white nationalist anyways. So you just refuted your own point.
Parker Powell
THERE ARE IN A WHITE COUNTRY
AND THEY DEVELOPED THE CULTURE THEMSELVES
Lincoln Powell
fpbp
Nolan Anderson
Asians have a different culture than whites, one that promotes intelligence and hard work
Wouldn't it make sense for them to have a higher IQ?
Rushton emphasized the fact that Asians were above whites so he wouldn't be automatically dismissed as a white nationalist
Jaxon Lopez
lets see the peer reviewed study that proves blacks have smaller brains
Jaxon Davis
shit man, i played this game in high school...
tbqh it was fun
Elijah Price
There are 1,250 to 2,100[1] and by some counts over 3,000 languages spoken natively in Africa,[2] in several major language families
Africa has no single culture, neither do whites.
Luke Carter
>2 black kids, (not siblings) adopted by white family
>raised in american midwest, town of 5000 people, 96.1 white. less that 0.08 black
>kids are raised in church
>go to nearly all white school
>are both functionally retarded
>the older boy has been in school for 17 years at this point, his parents just look at it like babysitting.
>there have been several sexual incidences, so now the boy isn't allowed to be around women without a male chaperone.
Leo Moore
They were enslaved and oppressed for hundreds of years, of course they developed such a culture.
But the recent violent subculture hasn't been a natural outgrowth of black people, but rather glorified and promoted by Hollywood
Asher Murphy
>Create proposal to investigate association of genes with intelligence
>Have grant completely shut down and become ostracized by the community
Gee, I wonder why the research doesn't exist.
Jose Richardson
Blacks do not have the same culture in the carribbean, in latin america, in europe, in china etc..
All of those places the Negroes form a distinctive negro form.
Ayden Clark
If the research doesn't exist, how can you say so positively that it's genetic factors?
Andrew Brooks
A cat does what a cat does, a dog what a dog does, a white what a white does, a negro what a negro does.
Benjamin Martin
HOW THE FUCK DOES "CULTURE" DO ANYTHING NIGGA LIKE WHAT THE FUCK
>I LIKE EATING CHICKEN INSTEAD OF PASTA SO MY SAT SCORES ARE LOWER
WHAT THE FUCK ARE ON ABOUT MAN
WHAT THE FUCK IS CULTURE NIGGA
Leo Brooks
I didn't assert that it was.
It was an explanation of why the evidence does not exist.
The scientific community is more or less prevented from investigating the matter whatsoever. If you do pretty much anything outside of investigating disease resistance, you lose all job opportunities.
Bentley Parker
>Rushton emphasized the fact that Asians were above whites so he wouldn't be automatically dismissed as a white nationalist
Again, this argument is retard because you don't even believe it.
>Asians have a different culture than whites, one that promotes intelligence and hard work
Somehow culture influences physiology, but 10,000s of years of divergent evolution produced no change what so ever. Either evolution exists or it doesn't.
Rushton's findings are based on measurements of skull size and mri techniques. His methodology is easy to replicate.
Jack Rogers
Hello, friend.
I see you (rather conveniently) ignored my earlier post, but those studies do indeed exist.
I would like you to read everything from the following page and acquire a basic understanding on this subject:
Parker Sullivan
I don't care about proving it... I only care about lived experiences now...
Elijah Kelly
Have you even taken an IQ test? Culture has nothing to do with it. It's mainly pattern recognition and shit.
>my culture cant into patterns cuz we waz kangz n kweens
Luke Myers
>go to an area that is mostly black anywhere in the world
>i-its just a coincidence, gais!
Colton Young
genetic editing, make them as smart as eveyone else
Luke Collins
"But you cant prove it was the chicken or the egg!"
But all the chickens definitely came from africa
Aaron Russell
By the way, if you haven't noticed, this is what I'm trying to bait out of you guys.
Actual research and sources that prove your point, rather than anecdotes.
Paul Joseph Watson in one of his recent videos cited a source claiming that after WW2, both black and white American soldiers had children with German women. And that when those black-German babies and white-German babies were raised in Germany in the German culture, they demonstrated no IQ differences.
Here's the video, skip to 6:03
>youtube.com
Parker Murphy
I no longer trust studies. There is always (((someone))) bias behind the scenes.
Joseph Flores
Social sciences are bullshit.
>Cognitive ability is controlled by social class
>Brain size is controlled by social class
Ok buddy.
James Jenkins
>exceptions to the rule disproves generalities
C'mon, huh?
Ian Nelson
Michael Martin
How can you learn to stop being a brainwashed Tabula Rasa believing piece of trash?
Aaron Butler
Human intelligence up to 75% inheritible
telegraph.co.uk
Human intelligence is highly heritable.
nature.com
Scientific consensus is that IQ tests are not racially biased.
sciencedirect.com
Very poor Whites are comparably intelligent to very wealthy blacks.
jbhe.com
Privately, intelligence experts hold more hereditarian views than they express in public.
udel.edu
Black children raised in White households have similar IQs to black children in black households.
psycnet.apa.org
The average African IQ is estimated at 79.
sciencedirect.com
The average African-American IQ is 85, compared to the average White IQ of 100.
udel.edu
The white-black gap in SAT scores, a proxy for IQ, is increasing.
jbhe.com
Genes for large brains, linked to high IQ, are common everywhere except Africa.
wsj.com
Intelligence has at least a40-50% genetic basis.
articles.latimes.com
IQ scores are the best predictor of success in Western society.
psychology.uwo.ca
IQ is 75% heritable among Whites.
psychology.uwo.ca
Nicholas Morales
Probably because using IQ and intellegence as the worth of a human being doesn't give any way to actual societal factors.
It's counter-product, psudeo-science by postulation atm. And has been.
You're looking for any evidence of superiority so you can use it as a basis of gaining control.
Luis Turner
This
Racial IQ gaps are persistent across income levels, countries, even across SAT scores
Jace Scott
TRS again is an openly white supremacist website
You can't get along with citing a source like this
You will convince absolutely nobody
Caleb Carter
Yes, but people need to admit it first.
I had multiple conversations with leftists, you can shit facts and statistics at them. But they will always move goalposts and then conclude "yea all humans sucks anyway"
No social class is dictated largely by intelligence (look it up) therefore if brain size shows intelligence it should show social class
The study still shows -~5IQ points for the mixed kids. Read it.
en.wikipedia.org
And the sample size is way too low.
Daniel Hernandez
Look at the IQs of non-getto Blacks (i.e. Africans)
Dominic Brooks
the lack of exposure to an agrarian society and winter made it that their low IQ individual didnt got removed from the gene pool
also 80% of inteligence is genetic
James Torres
Genetic influences are less prominent when an organism is young. You can train a chimp to act like a toddler, but eventually when the toddler grows older it grows more intelligent than the chimp.
en.wikipedia.org
Jeremiah Morgan
Strawman harder, faggot.
I've made none of the arguments you're projecting on me.
Benjamin Adams
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Nicholas Lewis
>those black-German babies and white-German babies were raised in Germany in the German culture, they demonstrated no IQ differences.
>trusting the post war German state on race issues
And I bet the majority of those thousand rapists in Cologne were fair skinned native Germans too, like the initial official statements implied too, you fucking retard.
James Hughes
How can you prove that it's genes giving Whites lower IQ's than Asian, and not simply white rape culture?
Jeremiah Watson
But are their results necessarily false? TRS are probably white supremacists because of evidence like this, not necessarily the other way around.
Jace Cruz
Why don't we start dismissing you sites because they hold to the ideology you believe in? It's retard because it doesn't actually address the evidence. It's a cope out of the shitty troll.
James Ward
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Lincoln Perez
Here
Need more?
Samuel Nelson
Hello, friend.
Could you give me the name of the actual Study?
Andrew Collins
>rushton
kek
Jace Hernandez
Isaac Smith
If the culture is anti-intellectual people will be less socially accepted being intellectual and therefore less likely to act and develop in that manner.
A culture like this would also effect the genetic aspect of intelligence as intelligent people wouldnt reproduce more successfully than unintelligent people.
Lucas Lee
You're being even more of a nigger than he is.
Blatant bias is more than enough justification to reject information.
There's presenting the facts, then there's presenting him.
Cite the sources the site uses instead of the site itself.
Bentley Campbell
He doesn't have any because he's talking out of his ass.
Robert Long
>bigthink.com
And all my respect for Bill destroyed by a single article
Cameron Carter
You doing the reverse. Trying to force people to accept that different breeds are equal in their ability in order to denny our right to freedom of association.
Pretty rude desu
Jack Hall
Human intelligence is highly heritable.
nature.com
Scientific consensus is that IQ tests are not racially biased.
sciencedirect.com
Very poor Whites are comparably intelligent to very wealthy blacks.
jbhe.com
Privately, intelligence experts hold more hereditarian views than they express in public.
udel.edu
Black children raised in White households have similar IQs to black children in black households.
psycnet.apa.org
The average African IQ is estimated at 79.
sciencedirect.com
The average African-American IQ is 85, compared to the average White IQ of 100.
udel.edu
The white-black gap in SAT scores, a proxy for IQ, is increasing.
jbhe.com
Genes for large brains, linked to high IQ, are common everywhere except Africa.
wsj.com
Intelligence has a 40-50% genetic basis.
articles.latimes.com
IQ scores are the best predictor of success in Western society.
psychology.uwo.ca
IQ is 75% heritable among Whites.
psychology.uwo.ca
Christopher Anderson
I cant attack the idea i will attack the person
t. cuck
Luis Cook
The mirror test.
Nicholas Myers
How can you believe in evolution and not believe in racial differences?
Only from the neck down?
Marxists ruined your thought process
William Wood
And people who are more intelligent are more likely to end up in the upper class. Cause and effect goes both ways.
Eli Russell
1) That study is more than half a century old. That alone warrants reinvestigation.
2) There's clear indication of sampling errors and size issues.
This study isn't sufficient. More recent research is necessary.
Jaxon Moore
Sup Forumstards don't really understand what a statistical average is.
saying that Asian have the highest iq is like saying that Danish are the tallest people on earth.
both statement are statistically correct.
however this doesn't mean that you won't see a 7 ft tall Asian and a 5'4ft tall Danish.
same goes with IQ.
just like for height its largely genetic.
and here comes the butthurt part.
a black person with an IQ of 130 will be likely to have kids with the same cognitive performance (higher than the average white or Asian).
being of x race doesn't make you inherently smarter or taller as an individual, group/race overlap each other.
this alone destroyed any basement dwelling racist "argument"
Hudson Turner
Here in syrupland there were villages of black loyalists who was farmers n sheet, they basically appropriated white culture and lived without gibs.
Charles Sanchez
Its both
Matthew Torres
>There's presenting the facts, then there's interpreting.
Fuck, I messed up in typing that...
Matthew King
you don't know who rushton is do you?
William Harris
He's stated that a site has a bias because it has an ideology. He hasn't actually demonstrated that the conclusions are due to the ideology rather than the other way around and you're just posting this because you want to fabricate a way for you to feel more intelligent.
Chase Cox
This may be the dumbest retort I've ever read.
Joseph Harris
OP will ignore these.
Joshua Hill
>How can you prove that it's genes giving blacks lower IQ's, and not simply black ghetto culture?
Wait really? Ha Ha Ha Ha
Tons of statistics
Tons of studies
Tons of writing on the subject
and what can easily be observed. Look at everywhere black people live in the 1st and 3rd world. Its a fucking MESS.
Take any random sample of niggers and any other race....white, asian, etc and have them test for IQ. The result will always be the same.
Niggers don't cut it. They never have. Most likely they never will.
Eli Cruz
Yay you can keep being racist.
William Thomas
>Yeah, you say that's the statistical average, but see this black man? He's not stealing anything right now! Take that, racists!
Literally your argument.
William Lee