Estrogen in the food and water supply?

I just want to fucking scream. Please mock me because I know you will. I don't fucking care.

I have been skinny fat most of my life. I decided to change that 18 months ago. I cut out all soda, alcohol, drug and cigarette use, as well as only allowing sugary foods in extreme situations such as birthdays or weddings.

Then I started lifting 5 times per week. I take in over 150 grams of protein per day. And yet I still look fucking sorry. To me there is no explanation I can give other than fucking estrogen or feminizing chemicals in the food and water supply.

I feel as if this may also be somewhat to blame for the dramatic increase in degenerate LGBT bullshit that's been going on lately.

Go ahead, mock me, I honestly don't fucking care. I have been trying so hard for 18 months, doing everything by the book, and still my progress is so slow, and I retain many feminine features, such as fucking breasts.

What can even be done? I cannot fucking herd livestock and farm to meet all my nutritional needs, although realistically is this the only way?

Other urls found in this thread:

lowerthought.wordpress.com/complete-notes-to-good-calories-bad-calories/
npr.org/2011/03/02/134196209/study-most-plastics-leach-hormone-like-chemicals
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Klinefelter_syndrome
m.youtube.com/watch?v=5N1hChJwX7c
twitter.com/SFWRedditImages

Here's 18 months of "progress" no soda, no sweets, lifting 5 times per week. Notice the fucking feminine features.

I understand this isn't /fit/ or /x/ but I don't know what board best fits for talking about shit like this

Start hunting. Also, wouldn't be surprised if the water was spiked.

Personal care products: Your shower gels, deoderants, shave cream, shampoos, lotions etc...

Learn what each and every chemical on those labels is. Think about whether you want to slather your body in them.
You skin is your body's largest organ, and it absorbs a lot of shit from the outside into the bloodstream


Think about cleaning up your diet further than you think is necessary
Think about evidence based nutritional supplementation. Go start reading: examine.com

OP, I've been suspicious of being feminized lately too.
>Lost weight
>Still have thick thighs and sorta boobs, not like man ones
>Feeling more emotional lately, want to cry over everything
>Sudden desire to have kids
>Want to dress up and be a cute girl at times despite the fact I've always been comfortable with and liked being male
>Suddenly like porn where a girl gets fucked by a great guy, and envious of her
>More accepting of pubic hair
I have no idea where this came from. I suspect I'm consuming a lot of estorgen somehow.

give us a before and after pic

Honestly, you look fine man just keep working out and wear flannel or button up. You no-lie sound like you have body dysmorphia, just focus your chest and you'll be A-Okay.

Where do you live? If not Texas, cometo TX. Water's fine here. You do look like a faggot and should consider killing yourself if you dont want to move to tx.

this is /pol not /fit
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gtfo of here fagit

You're still bulky. You need to lose weight - because fat isnt feminizing so much as it is muscle hiding. Stop lifting and do cardio.

Also just eat less

You've got decent muscle mass there you silly fuck

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>5 times per week

Let me guess, you didnt go to /fit/ and did some shitty routine.

hi ho, hi ho, it's back to /fit/ you go

Hate to tell ya bro but youre at about 27% body fat and need to get to about 15% to lose them man tittays.

Youre ready for a cut down phase after bulking. Head on over to /fit/ and they will take it from there.

>Here's 18 months of "progress" no soda, no sweets

Carbs? Flour? Potatoes?

lowerthought.wordpress.com/complete-notes-to-good-calories-bad-calories/

No before pic, but you see the after pic. Just imagine the most gollum/smeogal body type you can, and that was me.

Just this summer for the first time in my life I can swim in a pool or work in the summer heat without having a shirt on, I've always been terrified of doing that, because I looked so jacked up.

I will be the first to admit I have made tons of progress, noticeable progress. Shit everyone comments and mentions it. The progress is especially noticeable with my SHIRT ON.

But with the shirt off, as you can see in the image there are many feminine features. I know this is just a random data point for you to observe. You know nothing about my life, my eating habits, or my workout habits.

It just feels WRONG somehow. I am seeing some results so I continue to train, but I just feel too feminized in many of my features.

Cut bro.

Start eating more leaner and do more RUNNING, SWIMMING, BIKING, ETC...

You need to get rid of the fat. I see the muscle definition but you need to cut badly.

Need before and after. What program are you doing, are you progressing? What are you eating specifically? How much weight have you lost?
Pic unrelated
>kinda related

You need to cut

I can tell the muscle mass is there
If you lose some fat you'll look good

nigga I just eat food from local farmers I personally know.

Pay now or pay later, everyone says it's not reasonable for an entire country to do it, but the markets speak, if there is a demand there will be sales.

The reason you look like you have mantits is because you are still fat. No camera angle can hide those arms & belly..

first off you're a fucking pussy.

Second off where is the source of protein? If its mainly protein shakes, well there ya go. Eat meats, nuts, eggs instead of that.

3rd. You need to cut. Keep track of how many calories you eat, while making sure to eat below your daily calorie intake that is calculated by those calulators online if you dont want to go to doctor to get exact specifications.

The estrogen in the water supply comes from the tens of millions of women who are on birth control and everytime they piss they're pissing synthetic estrogen into the water

150 g might be overdoing it unless ur aroudn 220 lbs. You're only supposed to intake .7 g of protein per lb. Don't use a mirror as a metric. Weigh yourself to see how much progress you've made.

Why don't you box? Picking things up and down again is great. But fighting is manly, and will burn more fat and build lean, shredded muscle. Alos, punching people/dodging punches= testosterone.

ive been liftin for 4 years mate

ill tell you simply to just lose weight, your titties will be gone

Gains are something like 70% what you eat, just cutting out a few bad foods from your diet won't cut it. You need to regulate your intake ~40/40/20 protein/carbs/fat and a reduction in calories by ~500cal, if weight loss is your gain. Also do some bloody cardio

Seriously how have you been at this for 18months and not read the /fit/ sticky?

also drink only bottled distilled water? Have you not watched kubrik?

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CUT CUT CUT CUT CUT CUT CUT

I have lost over 20 pounds in a year just by walking more and eating less (and less shitty foods). Drink water, and know when and what to take.

Currently at 201, want to be at 185 by December. Then, and ONLY then will I bulk up. Add 15 pounds of muscle and then CUT again. Fuck being fat. Fuck looking in the mirror and thinking you are fat. Fuck that. And I'm not going back to that

The only feminine feature you have are the man boobs which will go away if you cut

You've got broad shoulders, narrow hips, and a normal amount of body hair
You're not becoming feminized you're just fat

examine.com is the fucking best place to get ANY of that information.

OP. Are you carb cycling? Are you eating at appropriate times when you lift? (ie so that the right shit is in your bloodstream when you lift)

Are you lifting heavy?

Are you doing compound lifts?

If your squat is under 300 lbs ill be fucking mad at you. Tell me and lets get you working smart iv'e got time.

Whats your numbers bitch boy?

How could you put in 18 months of effort and not realise through discussion and research until now that all your problems are simply now down to just needing to bloody burn some fat.

Come back with a real, complicated /fit/ problem that you can't seem explain and nobody has a real answer for.

Stay away from any food or water that has been tainted by plastic, as that's the primary source of the hormones. I know it's almost impossible because both things have been in contact with plastics at some point, but minimize further exposure.

For water, filter that shit and drink from a glass or any non-plastic vessel. Don't put any hot beverage on plastic containers. Avoid soda, even the canned ones. The cans are lined with chemicals, to prevent corrosion, that has the same chemicals that can cause hormonal imbalance.

For food, don't store it in plastics. Don't use a plastic vessel when the food is hot or heating up your food in plastic. The heat makes the hormones seep into your food.

If you must, go take testosterone-boosting supplements. Go talk to a doctor to plan a safe regimen that won't make you roid rage or leave your testicles withered that you'd have to be on it for life.

For other supplementation, take weight-gainers and NO/Nitric Oxide (no, not the gas). Creatine pumps you up with water, so it might be good to keep the muscles from tiring too quickly, but don't think gains from it are permanent - it disappears quickly (1 hour, at most). Take multivitamins, especially B-vitamin rich ones.

As far as your workout regimen, you're probably doing something wrong. Go to /fit/ and pick their brains. You also need to do more than just a few minutes to actually see some results. I work out for 2 hours If you want to see gains, avoid cardio; until it's time to "cut down". The 5 days you have, the rule of thumb is you divide it into focusing on certain body parts. You probably heard of "leg day".

But it's also possible that it's genetics-related. Some just can't gain enough muscle because of metabolism and other factors.

But yes, the spike in nu-males (feminized men) can be attributed to hormones, but that's not the only source. There's media and education too. But since you're here, you know how to deal with the media and education propaganda.

That's not skinny fat bro.

Protein shakes are fine as long as you avoid the ones specifically branded as "mass gainers" because those tend to also be filled with a shit load of carbs and fats
Just stick to whey isolate

Gynocomastia. Yeah, go talk to a doctor about that.

Similar shoes OP, feminine features including tits, in fact it's scary how similar our bodies look from your picture. But I'm a little skinnier then you (even though my moobs are bigger). I run 4 miles a day, drink nothing but water and black coffee, and eat very little. I'm toned up my features and lost 35 pounds since November (I was 5'9 2010), what I'm driving at is, Cardio. Cardio. Run my man.

/fit/itzen here. Good work cutting out sugars, but to actually lose weight consistently you're going to have to count calories like the rest of us. Also your feminine features are due to shitty genetics - nothing you can do about that bro. Not everyone has it as easy as Jeff or Zyzz, but keep lifting and cutting and you'll eventually make it to a point where you're personally satisfied.

Then again you should already know this if you read /fit/ (board of self improvement) vs Sup Forums (board of blaming all my problems on others)

i bought this great all natural olive oil soap and threw out my old shampoo and soap. it works great and has no bs in it

JUST CUT YOUR SHIT UP

Thanks for offering to help. I try to eat at least 4-5 times per day to help keep my metabolism going. 150g protein total like I said.

I always take in carbs 45 mins before lifting so I have energy to train.

My starting lifts 18 months ago were bench: the bar only squat: 95 deadlift: 135 OHP: the bar only

My lifts now are bench: 190 squat: 235 deadlift: 315 OHP:100

Pls no bully my nigger I am trying.

Also to any mod that sees this thread and potentially wants to ban me for being off topic, I think the thread turned in a direction I didn't intend it to, and I suppose it could be moved to /fit/. Sorry.

I hate blacks and voted for trump pls no bully or ban

*210 fuck

Are you trying to tell me the Jews aren't responsible for my giant gut?

You can't outrun a bad diet and eating to few calories will actually be detrimental to a cut as the body will consume muscle to make up for the loss

Cutting at anything greater than 500 kcal/day is a good way to lose gains

kekd

18 months and YOURE THAT FUCKING WEAK? JESUS, did you even try SS or did you only do the GOMAD part? Look you need to realize that morphing your body is going to take time and you need to be in for the long haul. I recommend you get a 1/2/3/4 THEN cut down your weight, if you care about strength anyway. If you dont give a fuck how strong/weak you are then just start cutting calories and eating real food myfitnesspal will save your life.

True, I should have changed my words when I said very little, I mean I have followed a diet plan that allows me to lose weight at a more substantial rate without sacrificing health/gains.

Cut holes in a binbag, wear it under your jumper, and go for a run.

DRINK LOTS OF WATER

>tfw man boobs
>squeeze them
>tfw it's not just fat because i feel lumps and they're sensitive
what the fuck?

Alright, it sounds like you are 1, overtraining. and two not training enough. Let me explain.

If you are able to workout 4 to 5 times a week, you are not working hard enough to actually gain any size.

What does a set look like for you?

if you've been using anything with soy in it, it acts like estrogen in your system.

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Time to visit your doctor famalam

Dude I was fat when I was young. In like 7th grade at 13, 5'2" and 150 lbs. I lost 30 pounds in one Summer from just eating healthier. My truffle-boobs were gone and I was skinny. I would say before trying to put on muscle just lose weight and then start from there.

Don't worry user, that's just your boobs developing, they're pleasure sacks, that's why women enjoy being groped so much

Go see a doctor

do you lactate?

Obviously there have been gains, but when I played football at the age of 18, it took me 12 months to go from being weak as shit to: Bench 235, Squat 455, Dead Lift 500, etc.

Get your shit together man...

Do you live in a city or a small town?

City water is all recycled and treated. They don't remove the estrogen from birth control.

Meanwhile small towns use wells and aquifers for fresh natural water.

I think that's part of the reason why cities are full of emasculated nu males and small towns are full of based men.

Progress is progress. Don't lift simply to gain, lift to build your self.

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You'll thank me after you turn 35 years old.

You dirty Jew, you know you tainted the water supply with plastics laden with feminizing hormones!

npr.org/2011/03/02/134196209/study-most-plastics-leach-hormone-like-chemicals

J'accuse!

The ink in your tattoo is slowly poisoning you.

>Used to be chubby
>Started lifting when I was 16
>21 now
>Jacked as fuck
No idea what the fuck you cunts are talking about.

>Not everyone has it as easy as Jeff or Zyzz
They actually can have it that easy. Dude doesn't even have feminine features, he's just fat.

OP you are such a retarded faggot. Ever heard of macros? You still need to get a lot of fat, carbs, and a big calorie surplus (like 3 or 4k) if you want to grow. Stop being a faggit. Sage

Okay here is an example day from my routine.

Bench/pull-up super sets
Benching maybe 155x8 then doing pull-ups to failure (usually 8-10)
I'll do 4 sets of this

Lat pulls @ 100 lbs x 12 for 4 sets

Chest flies in the cable cross @ 70 bs x 12 for 4 sets

Dumbbell skullcrushers 12x4

Decline bench 8x4

Then some random bicep horseshit to give me a pump so I feel good about my life
Then some random abs shit

Then I'm done. Usually takes 1 hour.

Again this is just one random day I usually do, kind of a (chest/upper body) day

Just cut faggot, you'll look great.

Nigger that's only useful if he's trying to do a water cut for some kind of competition be it wrestling, powerlifting, anything with weight classes really

Water cuts are useless for any kind of long term weight loss

PLEASE PLEAS PLEASE don't tell me you train power lifting exclusively?

OF COURSE YOU LOOK LIKE SHIT

do a fucking body building program you fool.

HURR DURR MUH COMPOUND LIFTS MAKE ME A GOOD BODY
no they dont

get that fucking hypertrophy that your muscles are dying for that you neglect them.

you don't need that much protein. you don't need to even do squats but i recommend you do.

just do more volume work. please. go 5 days a week, do a PPL / UL. hell you could even do your power lifts on this schedule.

you CLEARLY want to look good. training powerlifting isnt gonna cut it. please don't continue the SS/5x5/texas method/madcow BULLSHIT that plagues the internet and /fit/ and other boards. ive been lifting for years, i've been down that stupid fucking path. JUST LIFT TO LOOK GOOD DUDE.

I've started working out a month ago and have gained 5 pounds already. My test 600mg/wk test e cycle should start coming on strong too. Started out 155ish and at 161-162 so far. All the fat from my bulk goes to my ass though.

Yep, more cutting necessary. It's not the illuminati keeping your man boobs it's the body fat.

Stripping that body fat will make you leaner and then your muscle definition will show through mhch more.

Also don't be fooled into buying fitness magazines etc. The models on those who claim to just eat clean and train are also jacked up on all kinds of roids, HGH, fat burning drugs, you name it.

Oh look it is another 'estrogen made me a bitch thread'
OP, protip, that isn't how it works
You can intake quadruple the amount of normal estrogen and the only thing that will happen is you piss it out your pathetic dickhole

>took advantage of puberty gains

If only we were all so enlightened as to start lifting during puberty it's literally like being on gear

Oh wait I just saw you're retarded picture. Just eat less, drink bottled water, and cut faggot. Sage again

You need cardio and don't lift 5 times a week you idiot.

nice tits..lol

mine are bigger and hairier...

OP you have loose and thin skin due to weight loss and low test. Just give it more time. Estrogen tits look different

OP has a shit program and no diet. Stop posting about MUH JOOS and start reading more /fit/.

Also the amount of shit-tier bro-advice on this thread is disgusting. I finally see why /fit/ thinks Sup Forums is just a bunch of crying fat virgins.

fat fuck reporting...do cardio and pushups man its the fastest way to lose those tits i lost a ton of bellyfat and some tits to

Are plastic bottles that say "don't take bpa" good?

Cat urine is responsible for the epidemic of homosexuals in urban areas. They should not be kept indoors. They are an ancient Egyptian bio-weapon against inferior Human lines.

@OP

you may have this

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Klinefelter_syndrome

Little chub but you don't look bad. Average, but hardly effeminate. Just gotta cut and relax.

Work your shoulders. They're disproportionally soft and small compared to your chest and makes your body profile look feminized.

>classic /fit/ "bb v pl" troll

Honestly PL is superior because you'll get there much faster than if you do a brosplit, assuming natty ofc

m.youtube.com/watch?v=5N1hChJwX7c

Its not as bad as burning the double helix.

I got rid of mine for $5,000.

cut

you'll lose muscle mass but you gotta get rid of the chub first

then you bulk

I dont understand why you pmsing...
You stoped drinking and eating shit and stoped smoking, most people cant even pass on a chocolate bar, or quit smoking.

You shoould be proud of your self just for picking up a more healthy life style, i know i would.

Have some shekels and keep doing what you do.

lmao get rekt son

>do not eat fucking anything
>do not drink fucking beer or anything
>don't do a fucking thing
>ps I dont have source for any of this lmao

absolute shit

Lol /fit/ is the gayest fucking board on this site.
>tfw no gf
It's r9k on roids.
I agree with OP has a shit program and no diet, though.

no he hasnt

/fit/ meet up.
>jacked alpha crying virgins

>eat cat shit
>become attractive
>become a risk taker
>become more social
Found the secret to becoming a normie and it's in the litter box. Wish me luck anons.

Keep at it. It took me like a year of shit gains to finally look amazing. It was literally like I woke up one day and my arms were suddenly jacked after being bony for so long.

Control their food supply and you control the people.
Basically if Trump wins this must stop. Though it does passify people to a certain extent which may be good.