Biggest marvel tv villain?

Biggest marvel tv villain?
>mismanages a company so hard it probably had to fire hundreds of people
>causes a settlement for 200m for one cancer patient. Considering he's selling life saving medicine for 5 dollars it goes without saying that he's possible killing thousands for one middle class American.
>selling medicine at a loss, meaning there will be no further r&d and cures funded
>causes the death of the inventor of a heroin that doesn't build immunity and can be produced synthetically, which would make it both safe and an incredible evolution in anaesthetiology, and stopping distribution of it. without a doubt killing millions

Also he keeps quoting buddha and other asian mystics and philosophers in a really cobdescebding way. What an asshole

>walks into room filled with blacks and Latinos
>"YOU CHATTER LIKE MONKEYS"

/ourguy/?

He also doesn't knowbhow to interact with people. Pretty Sup Forums

i don't understand how powerful he is...it's so inconsistent.

>Sup Forums is so racist, sexist, and flat out contrarian that they'd actually put Iron Shit over both Jessica Jones and Luke Cage

Theres a luke cage show? Is it good?

really made me think...

its got its moments

JJ's biggest sin was that it was boring.
LC was just shit.

Iron Fist had its own flaws, but it was unironically better than both of them and more importantly it was more entertaining.

It starts out great but gets pretty silly by the last few episodes.

You can pretty much say the same thing about all four mcu shows though, even the good ones.

pretty good until cotton mouth diea

Yeah it's pretty good. Nice soundtrack

>LC
>racism

everyone in the show was black

Its like mana, when charged he can pull off super combos

I SUCK CAPITALIST DICK-The thread.

Its basically Black Dynamite with a little bit of seriousness to it

Ward a cute

his powers is to break doors down and escape.

Yeah, but the point they go downhill varies.

Daredevil S1 was solid right up until the last episode. Luke Cage went to crap about halfway through. Iron Fist took a dive after about the third episode.

JJ I think actually started out weak, got better in the middle and then went to shit in the last third.

>tfw this show should be about the ward family

>i'm angry
>arrrrr

>rich people are dicks so being totally nonsensical about how the world works is ok

Its great but when cottonmouth leaves it starts to decline. Still great though, I think.

I watched 7 episodes, idk why.

Tom Pelphrey is the only competent actor in the entire show.

I seriously cannot bring myself to finish it, I have never watched a capeshit show before though let alone a 'network' (low budget) garbage show like this before.

honestly I just got addicted to Jessica Henwick's ass and I just want to see her get slammed by manuel ferrera.

Jessica Jones was one of the most boring shows I've ever watched. I had to force myself to get through it. It got ok after like the sixth or seventh episode but it was never really great.
Luke Cage was good in a fun way but I can see why a lot of people here think it kinda sucks. Cotton Mouth was great so naturally the show went downhill after he died.

Wai ching ho did well with what she was given, and jessica henwick has a cute little limp in her gait that I found endearing

Your fantasy revolves around a man other than yourself fucking a women you desire? You even specify the other man. You are literally a cuck.

What do think will happen if you give a NEET billions and majority stake in a corporation?

I thought Cottonmouth was a better Kingpin than Kingpin was.

I'll unironically say Luke Cage is a better show overall than Iron Fist but I couldn't sit through Jessica Jones. Everything about that show was Maximum Jew to the point of absurdity

It was like that meme where one guy goes "how many layers of cultural marxism are you on?" and the lady who wrote JJ was like "you are like little baby, watch this"

I'm a neet and I would probably still consider that my actions have gravity and that reality isn't like richie rich. In fact, richie rich was more responsible about his actions in his movie

He was the opposite of Shkreli

"you are like little baby, watch this"
No

Ward is DEF our guy.

I thought the first season of Daredevil was okay, and everything since then has been shit. It would be a Herculean feat to determine which of LC, JJ, IF, and DD2 were the worst.

There are less destructive ways to not be greedy.

what movie?

LC is better than dd s1. They're all bad though

>LC is better than dd s1. They're all bad though
That's a hot opinion you got there. Care to share why you think that or are you just shitposting?

I liked the Fisk backstory and that actor, but I don't watch much capeshit and I've never read a comic book, so if it either is the same as other capeshit or deviates strongly from the source material, I can see why it could be shit, too.

It's a show called Banshee. He plays a Reformed Nazi Cop. Great pulpy show. Super violent mixed with softcover porn. One of the most action packed shows of all time.

The way fights were handled in LC alone makes it better than the other shows. Even fights among normies don't drag out as long as they do in DD and iron fist. It just comes off as a writing crutch when they pad out fights with henchmen over minutss. Especially in the case of iron fist, the dude should be able to punch through concrete walls.

Fisk wasn't well executed. His mental problems blended into the actual awkwardness of the actor, so it just felt like a sperg trying to ve another kind of sperg. Dd himself was whiny, his lawyer friend and secretary are completely incapable of acting convincingly. Old blind dude is pretty good though. Poor direction and fight scenes.

Up to episode 7 now, I know Iron Fist is probably top 3 hand to hand in Marvelshit but does this guy ever lose? At least DD constantly gets beaten into blathering retardo-mode before pulling off a win.

Also, the action scenes were far from great but they aren't Seagal-tier either. Colleen's cagefights were the worst by a long mile.

Holy shit I didn't realise Ward and Bunker were played by the same dude

>Iron Fist has trained for 15 years to be a living weapon
>Almost gets fucked up by a guy with a knuckle duster
>Has retarded spergy anger tantrums

I could barely get through the season, and when they started laying on the whole "if we kill them we're no better than them" real thick (big thanks to Night Nurse for that horseshit) I didn't know if I'd be able to make it through.

think i posted this exact thing in the last thread

>Night Nurse
I ducking hate her. It feels like she must be going off script constantly and the director has no balls to shut ger down cause she steals scenes constantly where she has no business to do so. Like, her characters actions never make sense

I almost alt+F4'd when she starting spewing about Gandhi on the plane, and the implication that she's always in the right and everyone just needs to come around to her way of thinking. She's such a terribly written character.

Shoddy choreography aside, the thing I don't like about the fights in IF is that they don't feel like they have any consequences, which is a jarring departure from the tone set by DD. Obviously Danny is a more trained fighter than Matt, but his wounds seem more like PG movie cuts-n-bruises and that sort of neuters the stakes for me.

>I am cool with operating on this guy in a shady dojo for a guy I've met once while he wanted me to leave
>I'm gonna talk to him like I'm a close friend when he's about to take the hands challenge, and act as I'd he needs to justify fuck all to me
>let me come with you, person i have met, like, 5 times, halfway across the world
>i shouldn't have come here, why did I think I could take part in this fight?
Literally the worst

Claire was way, way out of character in IF. I don't know if it was the actress or the script, but she was way off.

She was from being the reluctant voice of reason to outright preachy.

>which is a jarring departure from the tone set by DD.
I felt this in daredevil too though. Dd will be punched like 50 times through a fight, and he'll need to punch the villains 50 times too. Sure, he gets hurt. But nothing seems to have impact individually, making fights super unengaging

Danny is supposed to be stronger than luke so it's a wonder that fights are as risky as they are

>selling at a loss means no more r&d
That doesn't make any sense. That's pure advertising, and it's totally free. You know who goes to the cheapest seller? Customers. They're not going to stop at one product, and they apparently don't just sell meds.

I was mirin in Banshee

I disagree, what I liked about DD was that if he was in a rough fight, the physical consequences would carry over into other aspects of the show, sometimes for multiple episodes.

I think in IF they only had one throw away line from Joy about Danny's split lip.

You know what selling at a loss means right? That people going to them would be a BAD thing

Didn't Danny say to sell at cost?

People will be going to them for other products based solely on their reputation, even if they aren't buying that specific medicine. I don't think you've ever bought anything.

No, no, Luke is stronger physically but Danny is a way better fighter.

Yes, he did.

The cost of production.

No. Danny is stronger. He has better feats. Sure, luke is more DURABLE

That's not how it works though. People really don't give a fuck. Which is why we have marketing instead of ethical business. And obviously they were already pricing competitively, because that's just sensible. And 50 bucks for a cure is not bad in the first place. It's also implied that the drug was a MAJOR part of their income, not something to throw on a marketing stunt

Where is that implied?
They seem to have an massive income without the drug being sold yet.

No, they talk about it being a hard year after that.

>that scene with the 3 women that use their sex appeal to sell heroin
What was the point of that?

Poking fun at pharmaceutical sales reps?

Btw even if he didn't fuck his company, fact is that the heroin described in the show is a penicilin-tier medical revolution. So him shutting down that operation alone makes him worse than kingpin, gao, harold and cotton mouth combined

This, and to show that the Hand had so thoroughly infiltrated Rand that they can operate practically with impunity.

Wait, are we talking about the synthetic heroin? I thought we were talking about the antivirals.

Literally pic related the capeshit show

I'm saying that EVEN if the antivirals were fine, the fact that he shut down the synthetic heroin is an insanely big sin on its own. I changed topic

He's saying Luke has super strength, but Danny can still punch harder due to technique
Which is true

Not technique. Chi. Danny can exert more force, because of magic. Yes, his technique is vetter, but so is gis raw power. At least when it comes to making a shoving motion with his arm

Scott Buck should never have a job in Hollywood again. After what he did on his run with Dexter and the first season of Iron Fist, I'm fucking SHOCKED that anyone would want him running their show.

I WANTED to like Iron Fist. The comics are cool and I'm always up for some kung fu action. I wanted to like it even more after the SJW backlash against it. But it turns out that it's just a shitty, bland, directionless show.

The acting is often times just BAD and just watching one episode feels like you're marathoning the Lord of the Rings trilogy. The fight scenes are embarrassingly bad, so bad that I don't understand how they saw them and okayed it for film. They look like a minimum contact practice run instead of a finished product. The biggest flaw however, is the complete lack of interesting characters. I'm three episodes in and absolutely no one stands out to me.

Danny is completely unlikable. Finn Jones is exposed as being a cringeworthy actor and it doesn't help him that his character is pretty much a rapid bipolar in the show. The sad thing is that the SJW's ended up being right in the end in a round about sort of way. With all of the shit they changed they might as well have just made Danny an asian dude. If you're going to turn it into a shazam/Arrow ripoff with shitty action and acting you might as well cast an asian guy so you can be immune to criticism.

just wait, Ward becomes the best thing about the show. Ward and Colleen.

I liked the show, but it felt rushed as fuck. Like every episode was simply a rough draft that had to be pushed to film right away

Stay for Ward. He's the only reason to keep watching.

Watching the last episode .... It hasn't gotten any better ... Strange that I actually wish the sjws got their way and they got an Asian guy ... Heard it was the drunken master in episode 8 and I wish it was .... Fucking aluminum fist ... I wasted 13 hours on you just so I'd know what happens when the defenders airs

I enjoyed, definitely more than Luke Cage
Pros:
>didn't feel like a lot filler (Slow scenes don't mean filler)
>Didn't have cops or dirty cops
>Didn't have get worse in quality. Stays pretty consistent in quality (Ex. 2nd half of Luke Cage, 2nd half of DD S2)
>Colleen
>Ward
>To a degree, Meachum
>The Hand to a degree (More fleshed out)

Cons
>Bad writing. A lot of things at the beginning at least could have been solved a LOT easier if he didn't try to set up a date
>So-so action scenes (Still good for today's TV action standards)
>Claire
>Joy being bi-polar
>The Hand (Less intimidating)

Iron Fist is a story about a white dude that ends up raised in a different culture where he doesn't really fit in, who becomes skilled enough he can kill a dragon barehanded, and then goes back to where his family is from only to discover that now he doesn't really fit in there either. He ends up standing on a racial crossroads because he's white but was raised in a Chinese-derived culture, and both his best friend and lover are black.

There's shitloads of comic characters where the main character's race honestly doesn't impact the story much. This isn't one of them.

And honestly having a better martial artist as the star wouldn't have saved the show. Iron Fist is a guy that killed a dragon barehanded, and the directors made absolutely no effort to present him as someone that could do that. Apparently some random Slav in a truck is as tough as a dragon.

I'm normally want the race to stay the same for the character but Jesus Finn Jones was not the guy to do this he acts like an autistic moody teenager through out the entire show. So having ANY one else do it would have been better ... Shit even a black kung fu dude at this point and it still would have been better

You know how TV shows have those b-unit episodes that are shot while the a-unit is working on the big story episodes?

Iron Fist feels like an entire series of b-unit episodes.

Well you can think of The Defenders as one big show.

Marvel allotted $200 million in total to be spread across the first season of Daredevil, Jessica Jones, Luke Cage, Iron Fist, and The Defenders. Leaving about $3 million an episode if they spread it equally - about enough for your standard crime drama. Not good budgeting if you're trying to make high-end action shows. Ideally they should've been cutting money off of Jessica Jones wherever possible (it's not a show that really NEEDED heavy special effects, Killgrave's power could've made for tension without making things flashy) and saving it up for the shows that needed more flash. Looking at Iron Fist, I suspect they did the exact opposite and dipped into the tin marked "reserved for Iron Fist" a few times.

In the books Iron Fist wears a mask. There's no reason not to have him wear a mask in the show, giving stunt doubles a change to step in and do shit properly. Jones isn't great, but there was bad acting from other people that know better too. From what he described they were handed underwritten scripts and the directors went with whatever ended up on film on the first shot.

Things fell apart because the directors and showrunner were shit. This was a show mismanaged by arrogant assholes that walked in feeling invincible because the reviews had gone soft on the major flaws in Luke Cage and Jessica Jones.

>causes the death of the inventor of a heroin that doesn't build immunity and can be produced synthetically, which would make it both safe and an incredible evolution in anaesthetiology, and stopping distribution of it. without a doubt killing millions

The fact that you don't build a tolerance makes it easier to OD

Also it would still be incredibly addictive.

And the heroin wasn't really a Rand product anyway, Gao was just piggybacking on their resources. It was primarily going to be sold on the street, not as an anesthetic.

No. You could always use a starting dose of heroin. Heron is only dangerous because you have to start doing massive doses after a while. This is also why people lose all their money to a heroin addiction. It's cgeap in the beginning.
The ld50 isn't that much higher if you're tolerant, the effect is just lower. The less of a drug you need to take for effect, the safer, that's a general rule of pharmacology

>homeless guy tries to cheer him up
>"You're no match for me"
Wew Danny, way to make a friend.

It wouldn't be more addictive. It's still just heroin. And it doesn't matter if it wasn't a rand product, fact is, danny made an absolute wonderdrug go extinct

why are his hands so red

better than the starbucks CEO lmao

>tell your employees to talk about niggers with customers

>laugh at the guys beliefs
>haha people might think we're alike
What a shitter

The Hand literally serve a demon and want to drag the world into hell. They are basically pure evil.

I'm going to go out on a limb here and suggest that perhaps their talk about there being no downsides to their synthetic heroin was industrial grade bullshit.

I really thought they were going to take the whole "Danny befriending homeless guy" thing somewhere, but then *poof* boardroom drama!

Luke Cage had nothing to do with racism, blacks were gentrifying a black neighbourhood using a black crime syndicate to produce funds.
If anything it was something something cultural violence self perpetuation

>Luke Cage had nothing to do with racism

Well there was that cop at Seagate.

yeah he sounded like a retarded asshole in the first few episodes. Like the writing was just bad all around

started acting more normal (minus the REEEEEEE fits) towards the end