EU GUN BAN VOTE

Toda/Tomorrow the EU is voting on a new firearms directive that would be the most radical step towards public disarmament at the worst time.
This is what you can do and where you can sign.

firearms-united.com/2016/06/20/protest-2-0/#more-1133

Here's what's at stake: firearms-united.com/2016/06/30/rumours-dubious-compromises/#more-1250

tl;dr
>bans virtually all semi autos
>bans nearly all online sales of guns,requires even euro equivalents of gunbroker/armslist to keep official registration records for everything sold
>unlike he parts that would simply make semi autos illegal, the directive explicitly orders "military-style" semi autos to be confiscated, no exceptions for collectors and for museums only if deactivated permanently
>high cap magazines to be banned and confiscated, magazines treated as a firearm part subject to licensing

>Gun owners are now considered insane by default and lose their guns unless they prove they aren't every few years

>Gun licenses limited to 5 years duration
>deactivated guns, blank, alarm and gas guns to be registered/licensed
>No more cash allowed for gun sales
>The few places that recognized cat D (single shot smoothbore shotguns) will require registration for these, too

It's Feinstein's wet dream and of course just another step towards total public disarmament

On the bright side, cap&ball warned that antiques/repros would be banned too, but the way I understand it they are still exempt.

This is what the people think who are working on this:

>We are killing sport shooting. But we do not think it needs to be done tomorrow. They have licenses for five years now. And we think that we let them a little longer transitional period, perhaps five-year transition period for changing interest, to find a new sport. But we are killing the sport, she says.

Let's pray that it doesn't pass. There are plenty of additions that would make it less bad, but I don't want to see an inch of our rights being taken today.

Other urls found in this thread:

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Firearms_policy_in_the_United_Kingdom#Northern_Ireland
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gun_politics_in_Ireland#1972_Temporary_Custody_Order_and_Pistols_in_Irish_firearms_law
youtube.com/watch?v=e7t5oR0V0WI
twitter.com/NSFWRedditGif

hope it passes.
God bless Juncker.

Dresden 2.0 when?
Dresden 3.0 when?
Dresden 4.0 when?
Dresden 5.0 when?
Dresden 6.0 when?
Dresden 7.0 when?
Dresden 8.0 when?
Dresden 9.0 when?

t. Martin Schulz

>Like we can't make our own guns, explosives and hand combat weapons.

Disarming us for the coning civil war I see. I don't own guns but I don't support a decision like this. And I swear if they use terrorism as the reason for this I will flip my shit. They could have prevented this by not importing shitskins.

Fuck it if they do that I will revenge and go for guns in black market. Seriously this is insanely retarded.

And stand and watch while our hobby is pushed into illegality and our property confiscated?

>if they use terrorism as the reason for this
They brought this back a day after the Paris shootings (committed with illegal full auto AKs).

But the draft had been written a few years ago and first surfaced in 2013, they were just looking for an excuse to push it.

Of course it was illegal guns. They are after legal gun owner, they don't give a shit about terrorists. But if they do, ban our guns, it's a bad idea, most people won't give their guns and hide them or sell them to black market so in the end, it's give even better problems for everyone and terrorists will have guns much more easily.

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>most people won't give their guns and hide them

No, they're all registered. They know who has them. This is why the EU forced member states to establish a central registry a few years ago.

We need a vote like this in the west. I want our second amendment repealed and replaced.

So? They won't find the guns and we pretend we've been stolen. Of course everyone will do that but so what? There is nothing they can do about it. Damn it's make me so angry.

They'll send a letter asking you to turn them in. Then another, more sternly worded one. Then an officer or two asking to be let in to pick them up. Then a lot of officers with a warrant to turn your house upside down and charges to be brought against you.
You will lose any other guns you might have and, if you somehow manage to both successfully hide the gun, good luck ever getting it out of hiding again.

If you simply don't comply, that is. You could say you got robbed and they were taken, but your house would likely still be searched and you possibly charged for not keeping them safe.

Once guns are registered, there's no going back, but we can at least fight to keep them today

>B-But we need the EU
>The EU is good for diversity and unity!!!!

Yeah, have fun with that.

Christ, i'm glad we're getting out, but I honestly hope you lot can stop this madness. Fight for your rights. Don't let them take your ability to actively defend your natural rights.

Friendly reminder that anyone with access to basic hand tools can manufacture fully automatic SMG's for almost nothing.

If you're a machinist, all the better.

Kek, here in Portugal the only gun I can own is a BB gun or Airsoft if I don't hunt.

I envy americans... I wish I could experience firing a SCAR or FNFAL at least once

Hmh, somehow my name was still shlomo goyim. I wonder why.

So you reeally thinks they are gonna do that we all guns owners which mean millions of peoples without the shits hitting the fan?
Even our cops are pro-gun.
Damn I wanted to get gun licence but now it's fucked, I already used a gun in my work.

>Kek, here in Portugal the only gun I can own is a BB gun or Airsoft if I don't hunt.
Really? That's stricter than here and people rip on us?

HUuuuummmmmmm i wonder what happened last time someone registered and disarmed the civilian population in favor of big government...
>Ibn4: Hitler = not an argument

Not all at once, but one by one as much as logistics and manpower allow. They sadly don't fuck around with gun laws here (an old hunter died and police showed up with two vans full of officers to come take the guns away)

I dare them to try pulling this shit in Northern Ireland.

Now that I would pay to see.

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Firearms_policy_in_the_United_Kingdom#Northern_Ireland

Good luck Eurogoys.

Agreed, History always seems to repeat itself doesnt it?

Thank god we aren't in it anymore
Sucks to be you europoors

Absolutely ! You can only own a gun if you work in security or hunt.

If you hunt wild animals you're limited to a double barrel shotgun similar to the shotguns used in Clay plate shooting competitions.

If you work as a bouncer, private security and money transportation you can own a handgun provided you can get a license for the carrying and using of firearms, I think you have to provide a ton of paperwork to the police and then take a course. I heard it's super difficult to get one and the cost is highly prohibitive to start with. Tons of red tape to get through.


Essentially, if we ever want to revolt we're dependant on our armed forces.

>single payer
>tolerance and diversity
>no guns

literally the left's utopia. why don't these people just leave already

>visit this website and click "i don't agree" to show the government how mad you are right now!!!

This is literally what we've become

>tfw British

Tough luck Eurofags.

I just call a gun store and tell him about it.
They are very aware of the problem they said it's impossible to do this law.
I suggest yourself to do same
call your guns owners and see what they told you.

I did the same. Maybe a country will veto this shitty bill.

Not northern ireland, but still:
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gun_politics_in_Ireland#1972_Temporary_Custody_Order_and_Pistols_in_Irish_firearms_law

That's almost what east german gun laws were like under communiusm, holy shit. no rifles at all?

We've been getting cucked by the EU all our lives, we don't know what it's like to be free.

>implying you get to vote

Its possible to by a real AK47 here on the black market, as long as anything from eastern europe.
No ammount of laws will stop that.

Read the bit on Norn, completely based.

REEEEEEEE

Here's the debate about this issue organised by European Foundation for Freedom if you guys wanna check it out. There is one guy who speak really broken English so try to bear it or simply skip him. Overall worth watch. Turn on subtitles

youtube.com/watch?v=e7t5oR0V0WI

The government not but we the people will certainly. We would only need 50'000 signatures for a national wide referendum

ITT: Europeans talking like Americans and acting like they have any power in this at all.

Totally unelected bureaucrats are going to send shitskin cops to take the few pitiful weapons you have. Let's not get this mixed up

The European Race War will be just like fallout!

wait, why do you even care? You are uncucked.

Not entirely. They are still subject to some EU laws.

Switzerland will be subject to this shit via Schengen

The EU is insidious with this shit. They also made Swiss science funding dependent on them allowing free movement for Croats.

Oh fuck, sorry swissbro. This is horrible.

If this happens, Europe will truely become Orwellian beyond any reasonable doubt.

>The president of the European Commission Jean-Claude Juncker said "there can be no democratic choice against the European treaties.
>implying they give a shit

If the bill passes, we will make a referendum.

a) Leave Schengen
b) Adapt European weapon law

Russia is relaxing firearms laws in preparation for taking over Europe. Nobody is going to miss those EU faggots.

I guess that's what it will come down to for law abiding citizens that want to protect themselves. Everyone will just have to go full illegal mode and keep them hidden.

They will threaten to kick you out of the common market.

The EU doesn't concede, ever.

Your friends and you need to do this.

First, hide your guns.

When the goons come to confiscate your guns, tell them that the goons came yesterday and already took your guns.

They'll still search your home like the fascists they are, but now they'll be expending resources chasing a ghost group of people who are allegedly building up a weapon stockpile.

Good luck enforcing anything after Brexit, anyone who doesn't want to follow suit can just pack their shit and leave.

The EU is a malignant tumor and I honestly hope every eastern euro country secedes from it.

>Gun owners are now considered insane by default and lose their guns unless they prove they aren't every few years
>We are killing sport shooting. But we do not think it needs to be done tomorrow. They have licenses for five years now. And we think that we let them a little longer transitional period, perhaps five-year transition period for changing interest, to find a new sport. But we are killing the sport, she says.

what the fuck

Let's see

kek, this might actually work

>tell them that the goons came yesterday and already took your guns.

I'm pretty certain they keep records of the areas they search senpai.

Your new PM hasn't invoked article 50 yet.
Brexit will never happen because of your PMs

You mean the IRA?

reminder that in real democracy people should carry weapons

this is simply proof that there is no democracy, only tyranny that you cannot do anything about without guns

your value is zero if you do not have access to guns. they can do whatever they want with you

That's pretty clever actually.
Now is also the time to buy guns that don't yet need to be registered. Like cap&ball revolvers in many EU countries, it's better than nothing.

>This is what you can do and where you can sign.
Another petition?!?! rotflmfao!!
You European pussies need to go to your closet, or wherever you left your balls (hopefully you didn't lose them), and staple them back on. Your ancestors survived an ice age and ice age megafauna. Act like you descended from them.

>Rights

Europeans ain't got none of those

The implication is that there is a rogue group of people roaming about impersonating officers and that citizens are surrendering their guns while under the impression that they are complying with the real authorities.

Having guns is nice and all but it's pointless if the people are so apathetic that they don't defend their own freedom. Which is very much the case in Europe today. It's not like there is no relatively easy access to (illegal) guns, people just don't care.

I don't think we'd even need violence to bring down this regime of technocrats. Civil disobedience would be enough.

They'll assume it's other people pretending to be police, who are building up a stockpile

>that Colt Navy

Do not go gentle into that good night

>mfw the european liberation war will be fought with swords, spears and other historic weapons

>join national militia
>get full auto ak4/galil from government
suck on it

Has the IRA pulled the "impersonate authorities and trick people into surrendering guns to them" trick? I'm unfamiliar with their history.

If they have, then that's perfect because it lends credence to claims that some new group is doing it again.

Accurate... BUT misses a bottle of alcohol.

How would one procure a citizenship in the US of A?

I never understood this. Now, I love guns as any good Texan should but you can't arm yourself with 10 rifles, 5 shotguns, and 3 handguns all at once.

I also wouldn't trust my arsenal in the hands of strangers either. Seems more like a liability than an asset unless you have a very tightly-knit social network.

AR-15, .22lr rifle and a good center-fire handgun is ideal.

Yes. They've been stockpiling ever since they "disarmed" in 98

>letting them take them

What a pansy.

Who are they to tell you what you are and should/shouldn't own?

Sneak into Mexico and cross the border into the US. You'll never be bothered.

i think we all got lessons from usa right? too much guns on streets= street violence. thats simple truth. you cant fucking deny it even when you try to aply your right alt mental gymnastic on everything. you cant just refute that. you beta virgins dont have guns an\yway so why care cunts.

we build entire arsenal under the germans noses in poland during ww2, we had literal undergroud factories making guns and granades.

Those were shitty, sten level guns, but you need to kill just one dude and take his weapon.

Is there any positive about the EU?

Most worried about our defense forces. Directives aren't really laws but our country obsessively follows them anyway if there's a directive that makes it possible to do so.

They've been pretty harsh on personal integrity I guess. Atleast better than our government.

>too many niggers on streets = street violence

There, that's better.

Yeah just look at Switzerland it's basically Mad Max over there.

Good point man you really made me think there.

One of which was supplied by Obama during the Fast and Furious operation. Great guy that Obama ey? Taking your guns, but keeping the bad guys supplied. We're getting screwed so much, is it time to invest in vaseline?

At least that is something...

I think Czech Republic has even more relaxed gun rights than we do and everyone can get a CC permit there

>I wish I could experience firing a SCAR or FNFAL at least once
Get over here and you can shoot anything you want.

I'd gladly arm my direct living neighbours if it came time as a necessity and they would gladly join my side. It would be a field day. Im sure enough people on my street have enough firearms/ammo to arm the entire street.

I'm a collector and instructor.
That said, for SHTF, I want a break action 12 gauge with an X-Caliber system, and a handgun.

It's a collection. You can't wield them at once, but sometimes you feel like shooting a .30-30 lever action rather than an AR. and some things are just neat to have.

Source?

>I envy americans... I wish I could experience firing a SCAR or FNFAL at least once
Come on over

Wait,don't you have mandatory military service?

Good. I look forward to patrolling the streets with Sergei and Sasha, maybe little white girls will actually feel safe without getting raped and groped by non-whites for once.

inb4 muh red menace rape of berlin

no worries, when the war begins weapons will probably come pouring in from russia and balkans.

"the common market" is not a good thing, it's a bad thing. only capitalists are positive towards it. we're national socialists.

not even germany has mandatory military service anymore. I joined voluntarily for the usual basic stuff.

Bless them, I hope they kick Sutherlands shit in.