Daily reminder that Russia was founded by a Finnish man.
>Rurik was a Finnic Kven, i.e. he was "Finnish", in similar way an average Savonian, Tavastian or a member of some other Finnish tribe is Finnish. Rurik was the founder of the early stage of what gradually became Russia, and his descendants ruled what today is known as "Russia" well beyond the Middle Ages.
>The results of the Rurikid DNA study referred to below are not surprising, considering that other DNA studies and other evidence point to Finnic people having inhabited the modern area of Sweden for thousands of years, including the modern-day area of Southern Sweden:
>• "The hunter-gatherers show the greatest similarity to the modern-day Finns", says Pontus Skoglund, an evolutionary geneticist at Uppsala University in Sweden, about ancient skeletal remains excavated in Gotland: gotland.3000.BC.kvenland.org
>Genetic studies were conducted on Prince Rurik's modern-day male line descendants. The 2007 Polish-led "Family Tree DNA Rurikid Dynasty Project" pinpoints the origin of the Monomakhovich branch of the Rurikid descendants' DNA "to the genetic haplogroup N1c1 – the so-called “Finno-Ugrian”" group.
>According to the Family Tree DNA report published, the studies concluded "that the N1c1 Rurikid princes belong to the so-called “Varangian Branch” in this haplogroup. The study confirms Rurik to be genetically related to the later Baltic Finnic peoples.
>This DNA study is consistent with Roslagen in the northeastern corner of Uppland, a suggested birthplace of Rurik, having represented the southern border region of the land inhabited by Finno-Ugric people at the time of Rurik's birth.
>The DNA study also supports the view that Rurik descended from the Finnish-Kven royal ancestry introduced in many medieval accounts, similarly to many other members of the Scandinavian-Fennoscandian royal Yngling Dynasty, a.k.a. the Fairhair Dynasty.
>The most influential proponent claiming that the founders of the early stage of Russia, including their leader Rurik, were ethnically Finnish has been the Empress Catherine the Great of Russia, a.k.a. Catherine II.
>In her writings on the history of Russia, Catherine II placed the home of origin of the Varangians in the region between Ingria and Finland, i.e. in Karelia. Both Catherine and her husband Emperor Peter III of Russia were Rurikid descendants.
>Catherine even wrote a play about Rurik, in which the dying Gostomysl instructs his followers to elect his daughters son, grandson of a Finnish prince, as their ruler.
>It was also during the reign of Catherine II, that three editions were published of a short review of Russian history by Timofei Malgin, another advocate of the Finnish theory, and a work of similar persuasions by Ivan P. Yelagin, literary adviser to the Empress and the founder of Russian freemasonry.
>Other proponents of the "Finnish theory" have included – but are not limited to – the following:
>• Rurikid descendant and the author of the first full-scale Russian history Vasily Tatishchev • Rurikid prince and a historian Mikhail Shcherbatov • historian Viktor Paranin (1990) • historian Johan Adolf Lindström (has presented also a Goth-Varangian theory) • historian A. H. Snellman (Artturi Heikki Virkkunen) • historian Yrjö Koskinen • historian Jalmari Jaakkola • historian Matti Klinge • archaeologist Pirkko-Liisa Lehtosalo-Hilander • Professor of Finnish and Scandinavian archaeology Carl Fredrik Meinander. (1/2)
Lincoln Bennett
>Vasily Tatishchev was a prominent Russian statesman and ethnographer, best remembered as the author of the first full-scale Russian history. He is sometimes referred to as the "father of Russian history".
>According to Vasily Tatishchev, the Rus' originated from the area of Finland and the Rus' were Finns. He based his knowledge primarily on the Ioachim Chronicle. The original chronicle was lost, and its contents are known through Tatishchev's "History of Russia" (Иcтopия Poccийcкaя).
>Further support for Tatishchev`s Finnish theory was provided by the "Chronicon Finlandiae", written by an unknown author, published by Christian Nettelbladt in 1728. (2/2)
Jackson Ross
WE
Tyler Young
WE WUZ Beликий Князь AND SHIT
Jaxson Miller
WUZ
Zachary Lewis
WUZ
Ethan Rivera
>*smacks lips*
HOL UP
Joseph Garcia
CYKAS
Xavier Bennett
So when Finland and the rest of Europe collapses, and Russia becomes an industrial superpower, will this be the excuse Finnish people have to illegally immigrate to Russia for work?
>RUSSIA USED TO BE FINNISH CLAY THEREFORE WE HAVE THE RIGHT TO LIVE IN RUSSIAN CITIES AND BENEFIT FROM RUSSIAN SOCIETY AND INDUSTRY!
Justin Evans
Out of curiosity, what would Rurik being generally accepted as a Finn change?
Michael Jones
*stares blankly*
Yo....
*shuffles feet awkwardly*
Hold up....
*looks at ground*
You mean to tell me....
*drinks vodka*
We was kings and shit....?
Nolan Perry
We'd probably get our former territories back from Russia as rightful heirs of the Kievan Rus
Jordan Wood
Velikiy Knyaz* or Grand Prince. There was no King(title).
Caleb Scott
>tfw Ukrainians and Poles call us retarded Mongoloids because we assimilated some Finnish tribes in the north
Hunter Gutierrez
Russian here. Nothing we didn't know already. "Moscow" supposedly meant something along the lines of "clammy damp place" in the local finnic language.
Asher Watson
>Implying Russians aren't the heirs of Mongol Khate who don't give a shit about Kievan Rus
Cooper Powell
he was a finish viking you clueless retard with origins in sweden
Beady-eyed Celtonigger is envious of our supreme Finno-Rurikid blood
Henry Murphy
Proud to be Finnish.
Cameron Wood
Reminder that Finns are just mongols who have been blessed by Swedish semen.
Andrew Myers
Nope
Brayden Ramirez
NO DON'T
Cameron Perez
KHAN'D
Ryan James
How can I stay mad at my serkku?
Asher Lee
That's why most Finns look like the product of Nordic and mongol racemixing?
Scratch a Finn and you'll see a mongol.
Jaxson Ward
>clueless retard >literally genetic evidence from his descendants showing the male lineage has a finnish haplogroup
kys
Aiden Nguyen
>Ebinland
>Last true heir to the Holy Roman Empire >Descendants of the Great Mongol Khanate >Founders and the cultural heritage to the world's (second) greatest superpower, Russia >Largest surviving nation to carry on the battle-standard of the Finno-Ugric peoples >Pushed back the Viking raids and instead established trade deals with them >The only peacekeepers between the East and the West in the whole world >Cultural link between the Baltic countries, Europe and the Nordics. >Japan's only true friend in Europe
Sup Forums has taught me so much that it almost brings a tear to my eye.
Xavier Baker
You forgot Estonia; Finns with a weird accent.
Nolan Ramirez
>1.5% of our paternal lineages can be traced to Sweden >Y- you're Swedish rapebabies fuck off Nigel
Jack White
I'd never forget Estonia, greatest ally. Estonia will be up there right beside us once we conquer the world.
The Suomi-Viro Khanate will be the greatest empire known to mankind.
Jose Reyes
If it was before finland turnded into second tier mongoloid subworld, i'm okay with that. Maybe we're the last pure noridic gene keepers.
Aiden Hernandez
>Maybe we're the last pure noridic gene keepers.
Luis King
seeing as how there are more russians whit finnish blood than finns dosen't that make YOU russians
Hudson Ortiz
t. Turkic Tataromongol
Ryder Gray
I HUI
Lincoln Phillips
YOSH!
Joseph Edwards
hey babe
want sex?
Jordan Richardson
We call you mongoloids because of Mongols and Tatars. Ask this guy
Isaac Parker
No, it makes those Russians assimilated Finns.
David Clark
And Finns are Turks
Hunter Jenkins
AЙO ХOЛ AП! CO Ю БИ CAИH УИ BУЗ COM КИHHA ФИHHO УЙГУP AHД ШИEEEEET???
Lucas Wilson
>We call you mongoloids because our culture is built on butthurt Yes, we know that.
Hunter Rogers
Sofi Oksanen is a national treasure.
(saying this is the only thing that can trigger a Finn)
Nolan Howard
AYO, HOL UP SO YOU BE SAYING WE WUZ SUM KINDA FINNISH (dunno) AND SHIIIET???? Did I catch that?
Cameron Gray
English Cyrillic looks uberretarded. See if we care about such shithole.
Cameron Hill
DELETE THIS
Fucking mädättäjä whore should fuck off to Sweden
Angel Hall
you are nothing without germany, USA and NATO.
Julian Cook
She's just another dumb whore tbqh.
I get more triggered by this.
Asher Thomas
So it can be said about almost any European country
Liam Sanchez
Nope, Funland is Russian.
James Martin
I can't wait until she's elected to Parliament.
Jack Walker
most of Russians in north are assimilated Finns, but Rurik theory makes no sense it is well documented Rurik dynasty descendants kept in touch with Scandinavians
Brandon Morales
and what would you do with the territories? I far as I know you're already selling your land to corporate faggots like apple
Daniel Watson
Rurik's lineage is Finnish though, not Scandinavian.
Jaxon Watson
>rightful heirs of the Kievan Rus Get in line.
Owen Scott
genetically maybe, but culturally he was almost certainly a Scandinavian from Sweden
Ayden Bailey
At the time of his birth most of Scandinavia was inhabited by Finns though.
Easton Peterson
>most of Scandinavia Sweden*
Ethan Garcia
>Finland 127 million in debt >Stick with the EU and EUR like madmen >Give gibs to Greece >Get 30 000 shitskins to feed >Cut trade with Russia >Get 500 000 unemployed people >Nokia fails
I'm angry about selling land and I think they're doing a bad choice with what things they're cutting, but it's being done for a reason. It's not like we don't want to keep our land.
Jonathan Rogers
interesting by the way I think Putin is Finnic or something
Wyatt Cruz
Finland and Russia are both shit at preserving their territories, the land should be given to us
Brandon Harris
I'm buying lauluväljak and renaming it "Coca~Cola Presents: Lenovolauluväljak!"
Levi Diaz
He might be, he looked pretty Karelian in his youth
Joseph Davis
putin is for sure a typical balto slav type that inhabit north west Russia
Ian Butler
So when are we taking it back? What's the schedule?
Anthony Thomas
:))
Jordan Rogers
It takes the cloning vats 4 years to produce 1000 Simo Häyhä.
A fucking Fenno-Swede when you could have Juutilainen instead?
Go back to Åland.
Jace Hernandez
This is so true. Russia is only Moscowia. Everything else is stolen land.
Aiden Jackson
Can you come in us then we come int you ?
Eli Bennett
Knyaz, etymologically, is none other than Kuningaz, i.e. a direct cognate of King, Konung and König. It only ended up translated "Prince" or "Duke" because of stupid arguments over etiquette and so on in the early modern era.
> Finnic etymology of Moskva No, the Baltiiskaya theory makes most sense. The meaning is probably cognate with the English word "mush" or "mash". It's about the bog that the Moskva flows from, over near Smolensk. The immediate predecessors of the Slavyane in Podmoskovye were Balts - see the Golyad', mentioned in the chronicles.
But yes, the old sources did give greater prominence to peoples like the Vots and Veps and Chud' than later history would have you expect. Novgorod was more or less a tri-ethnic concern, where Slavs, Finns and Norsemen rubbed shoulders and established a new culture.
Russky yazyk napisan s latintsymi vyglyadet naimnogo khuzhe!
What's this painting?
There's no great problem. Ryurik's very name indicates linguistic and cultural germanicisation, of himself or earlier forebears.
Heh, Ryurik probably looked like him a bit.. )))
Isaiah Morales
whatever you say achmed
Camden Kelly
Putin is Vepsian and Vepsians are Finnic.
Austin Sanchez
You are into some kinky stuff, huh shprota? I like you.
