Borders Thread

I fixed Europe. What do you think?

decent

/gsg/ pride worldwide

Not so bad but I don't like that you gave France a lot of land they shouldn't have.

try this on for size

I cri evrytiem

I N T E R M A R I U M

Nice, but we need Livonia too to complete it.

Forgot pic

how realistic was a "Scandanavia" anyway

Well I mean we never owned the Kola Peninsula and white Karelia, but I guess those would be part of greater Finland.
You have Denmark a little too much land in Germany but then again there was a short period where they controlled all of Pomerania so I can make sense of that.

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Kola tribes was in times taxed by Norway, so in an alternative history autism map, it's not so far fetched that we have Kola, plus a truly unified kalmar would surely want to have the full peninsula if we didn't spend time fighting each other, I assume.

I mean did people want it
are scando languages even similar enough to function together in a country?

I don't understand the german nations. What is the light blue? Yellow is rhineland?
And what is the brown southern france? And shouldn't the blue France have ile de france/Paris?

Didn't know this. Makes sense though.
Sure. We can all understand each other well enough to share a country I think, and our cultures aren't so different at all. There was a movement in the 1800s called Scandinavism aimed at unification. It died out around the 1860s though as Norway wanted independence from Sweden and we didn't do enough to help Denmark in the Schleswig war which ruined relations.

light blue is Bavaria
yellow is Rhineland
dark one is greater Berlin
brown in France is Occitania-Catalonia(huge meme, as Occitania is basically wiped out and never had any real nationalism movement)
>Schleswig war
was this against prussia or austria, I forget

Both actually. I should have specified that it was the second schleswig war in 1864.

Autism

I believe!

Danish, Swedish, and Norwegian can easily work together. The languages would not be the issue for us. Finns would need to be strongarmed, just give them more Swedish in school, they WILL like it. Rather it would be nationalism that is the biggest issue. All three Scandi countries are old countries, with lots of history. But if we pretend that there was will to unify, which has happend before, then I think it would work. We have basically the same culture, only local differences. We also have monarchs so that's a bit of an issue. Who knows. But let's just say that Scandinavia unified is one of your more realistic ones in your meme map, relatively speaking. And besides, being too realistic takes the fun out of a meme map am I right?

>the eternal Fr*nk

fuck off

One of the better ones I've seen.

Fuck Germany.

You want to fix Europe reinstate the Habsburg empire and make Bavaria a Kingdom, split up the rest of the northern germans to surrounding countries.

Any of you boys play map simulators like eu4, Victoria 2, Ck2, etc? If you like painting maps you should try them.
Sick proxy frogman

Best one in the thread

this please

Definitely, but still things I didn't like. Like France having Catalonia (I get it, the frog wants muh), but it should rather be Catalonia or go full Aragon. France should not have belgium, particularly not luxembourg. It would make more sense if Netherlands had all of it. I would also shove turks far back to asia, but that's just me and I'm not very nice to them.

Reminder this is the best Europe

tsardom is shit though.

pic related best europe

Tsardom Russia was best Russia.

>Papal State
>Greater Morocco
>Burgundy?
Jesus what is this user

tsarist russia was a poor irrelevant shithole that was getting fucked by its neighbours constantly

But it had better ideas. I love Peter's desires to have a westernized Russia that would be friendly with the western powers. Now it's just a big shitty and smelly bothersome """power""" to the east that wants to show off in our airspaces and such. Russia is the big kid that got bullied so much he doesn't know how to be likable anymore.

>Now it's just a big shitty and smelly bothersome """power"""
i do agree with it, modern russia is one of the most pathetic, hopeless and poorest mafia states ever.
the moment our true empire (Soviet Union) died in 1991 russia itself also died and it won't be alive ever again. Soviet era is the best and most glorious part of russia's history

chicano fucktard. kill yourself

Soviet Russia was the strongest Russia for sure. But I disagree that it was the best Russia. I dislike its ideology and its expansionism. Russia was always an expanding empire, but Soviet went a bit overboard going into Europe. Can't have that. Russia must be a good nation that will co-operate with Europeans instead of eyeballing us.

>Chicano
This map is almost certainly from the 1800's aka when the us hasn't given Mexico a good dicking yet. Look at Russian Alaska and unoccupied Patagonia for examples.

Soviet didn't expand into Europe outside the old Russian imperial borders with the exception of Kaliningrad, which was gained after a war that was not started by Soviet

What about Finland? Was that before Soviet era?

Right, of course it was. Sorry.

...Yes it was.

Still the worst ideology, and soviet was the least friendly Russia to Europe I can think of.

to which Europe? Soviet was very friendly with the sister socialist republics in the east, and it's not like west Europe was being friendly with Soviet. it was NATO that was the aggressor, not Soviet

I agree. I prefer to keep Russia out of Europe all together.

Western. Had it not been for Russia, nations like Norway would not have to have USA balls in our mouth and breathe with our nose all the time.

>co-operate with Europeans
eurodogs have tried to conquer and destroy this country since forever.
for example during the crimean campaign there was a moment when russia was about to defeat turkey and take over istanbul but the euroscum decided to intervene and help turks to kick russians out. europigs were always extremely hostile towards russia.

not true at all. Finland remained neutral throughout the Cold War and did just fine without falling prey to American domination.

Finland did and still have your protection.

Finland was not in NATO and even refused Marshall Plan funds from America.

Actually agree here
Fuck the Brits and Frogs for propping up the Ottomans for decades

Ottomans > Russhits

t. Mustafa Kemal

>Russia wanted to take a city that doesn't belong to them
>europeans are the bad guys for not going along with your expensionism
Hehe.
I wish Turks never came to Europe, but it certainly doesn't belong to Russia.
But you're not wrong. It has been a difficult relationship. It was always because of the fear of a conquering Russia, I think. Europe doesn't want a Russia so strong that they can puppet European countries. It makes sense. Especially with shitty ideologies like communism. Russia need to be non-expansionist for a long enough time to gain Europeans trust, and with a compatible ideology. I think given time then Russia and Europe would be natural friends.

>Ancestral home of Russian religion
>Doesn't "belong" to Russia
It makes so much more sense for Russia to have it than the fucking Ottomemes
Besides they probably were going to liberate a bunch of Greek land occupied by the Ottomans in the Crimean War and might have even given them Constantinople

Lmfao that's a terrible justification.
I would much more understand the "rather Russia than Turkey" argument. But the truth is that if not in Greek control, then it makes the most sense that Turkey has it. Turkey belong to anatolia now, whether we like it or not. Russia does NOT. Ideally I would want byzantine to have surviced and become some kind of greek nation ruling there.

10/10 very nice job op, and i'm being serious

>rather Russia than Turkey
This is literally what I mean
At the time of the Crimean War, Turks formed only around 40 percent of the population of the city. Almost all of the rest were Greek(brother in religion to the Russians and even have places in Russia named after them to reflect their kinship), and Armenian already a semi accepted minority in Russia and also Orthodox. It makes much more sense for Russia to own it than the Turkish invaders.
>country doesn't exist on the map
>good job op
Explain this

Btw, if you're OP, did you mean to give Norwegian land to Sweden, or did you make a mistake? I'm referring to the county of Ǿstfold. I fixed it for you.

I also made a suggested change in Jamtland/Herjedalen, the big county in the center. It's the old Norwegian borders. But it's your autism map, do as you please.

file

I am not OP, nor did I make
But I did post it
Have another meme map

This is not okay. Don't steal our clay pls.

It's our land, and you know it. If we want to be real about then this should be how it looked like. But I care more about herjedalen/jamtland than båhuslen.

Anyway, I was just going to fix the mistake OP did with Ǿstfold.

It was an independent peasants republic before you stole it in the 12th century you bully.
Also you could have kept it if you weren't so loyal to the Danes.

FUCK YOU MAMU EBAAAAL

>your

We didn't steal if from you if it was independent, so we simply conquered it. You however stole it from us, so who's the real thief here?
If you had helped us with the Danes then perhaps we wouldn't have been so loyal. Where were our brothers then, huh? We needed your hand to hold. We reached after it in the dark, but couldn't find it.

Can someone explain how the Czechs and Slovaks got along for such a long time? Are they really that similar?
What did he mean by this

i did it on purpose. I am a Swedenboo :3

You did Ǿstfold on purpose?

yes, but I will revert this change in future iterations. I didn't think anyone would notice. also fixed slovenia

Also, may I suggest to rid russia of that silly flick of land that belongs to Lithuania?

do you mean the Kaliningrad Oblast?

This is the worst shit I have EVER seen.

Yes.

they need it to protect against Polish aggression

As if that's a concern.
If Kaliningrad doesn't trigger your autism then I call bullshit. It's the most ridiculous thing ever. I guess to an American it will make sense because you're used to have military bases in other people's territories.

Seriously
Why did the Russians take it if they weren't going to connect it?
They easily could have deported a few Lithuanians like they did Germans and Poles
Makes no sense

Russia has to get some compensation for sacrificing tens of millions of people to defeat Nazism, and their national defense hinges on holding Kaliningrad. it makes sense to me

Not bad outside of Hungary and Könisberg

>Catalonia without the Beleares

if you're going to put Catalonia on the map at least do it right. also don't forget to colour the Channel Islands

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>he coloured them red

Why have you cut some of europe out?

And given Norwegian land to Sweden.

Aren't there only Bongs on these islands?
Was just a template I found somewhere that's easy to edit without having to paint every single island
Did I?

Yes, fixed it for you. Two of our counties.

>Kaliningrad is still russian

0/10

Bump

Can you give the yokels to someone else please

FIXED

stop this

do you mean the Moldovans?

>Square Boland
>Kalinsgrad
>Is that U.K. in the Mallorca?

>new Africa
Fuck it, I'm taking the bait.

Yes, besides Serbia and Hungary, all of our neighbours look like the pic related. Today's borders are fine by me.

>croatian yugoslavia
Nice

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