Honestly don't know what people do on weekends here. I wish our league was at least netherlands-tier, but alas the attendances are so horrific that it's not going to happen. I go to matches of arguably the 2nd biggest club here and our 25k stadium is always half-full, it's depressing m8.
That's why I bandwagon like 3 different clubs in 3 different leagues in europe.
Camden Thompson
Who cares about total attendance? No wonder the Championship is that high up the list when there's 24 teams in it and therefore a shit-ton of matches. What really matters is average attendance. And there, the Bundesliga is number one, in front of the Premier League.
Alright sausage botherers, don't get too defensive. I was more looking at the Championship than PL/Bundes.
>country with 30m more people and fewer overall teams in a smaller league system gets more people per game
No shit.
Surely if you were as bothered as us, 2. Bundesliga and 3. Liga and further would be comparable to our lower tiers?
Camden Nelson
Real ranking
Germany 42.000 England 36.000 Italy 22.000 Germany II 22.000 France 21.000 England II 20.000 Netherlands 19.000 Scotland 14.000 Portugal 12.000 Russia 11.000 Belgium 11.000 Turkey 10.000 Switzerland 10.000 Poland 10.000 Sweden 9.000 England III 8.000 Spain II 8.000 France II 8.000 Austria 7.000 Italy II 7.000 Denmark 6.000 Germany III 6.000 Czechia 5.000 England IV 5.000 Scotland II 5.000 Ukraine 4.000 Greece 4.000
Michael Roberts
>rangers and celtic get 60k whilst the rest have average attendances of 3000
Charles Clark
England and Scotland are pretty much the only 2 countries where going to football matches is seen as an integral part of the weekend and a perfectly normal thing to do.
Here, you'll get funny looks, if you say that you're a season ticket holder. Fans of professional clubs are, in some circles, seen as antisocial brutes that only want to get drunk, light shit on fire and start brawls. Meanwhile fans of amateur clubs only care when they play their local rivals. It's a cultural thing.
It also didn't help that many clubs with large fanbases shat the bed 10-20 years ago and that the league isn't terribly competitive.
Adam King
>Simply has bigger stadiums Supply and Demand
Levi Gomez
To be fair, you have to have a very high IQ to understand Serie A. The tactics are extremely subtle, and without a solid grasp of theoretical physics most of the game will go over a typical viewers head. There's also Montella's nihilistic outlook, which is deftly woven into his characterisation- his personal philosophy draws heavily from Narodnaya Volya literature, for instance. The fans understand this stuff; they have the intellectual capacity to truly appreciate the depths of these VAR penalties, to realise that they're not just rigged- they say something deep about LIFE. As a consequence people who dislike serie A truly ARE idiots- of course they wouldn't appreciate, for instance, the humour in Allegri's existential catchphrase "Warm up for me, Sturato" which itself is a cryptic reference to Turgenevs Russian epic Fathers and Sons. I'm smirking right now just imagining one of those addlepated simpletons scratching their heads in confusion as Maurizio Sarri's genius wit unfolds itself on their television screens. What fools.. how I pity them
Noah Wilson
Hourly reminder that more people care about League One than >please watch our league
Noah Cox
The real teams in Argentina average 80-90k attendances
Small teams somewhere around 50k
Nathaniel Carter
and yet we still get labelled as the hooligans
the demand is there as demonstrated by Spurs, if the corrupt cesspits of FIFA or UEFA would let us host a tournament we'd soon be on a level playing field with Germany
Evan Miller
england already undone 3 posts in
sad!
Gabriel White
lmao
Robert Sanchez
Oh shit, I thought "k" meant 100, not 1000
fucking kill me
Jordan Miller
*Spain 28.000
Austin Martin
>and yet we still get labelled as the hooligans That's probably because drunk Englishmen have a tendency to misbehave, especially when they're on the continent. The average English football fan is docile as fuck, I mean you guys don't even throw bottles when the other team takes a corner.
Dylan Carter
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Kevin Fisher
because 1 Kilo is 100 grams, so i thought it as 100
Jeremiah Bailey
We get more drunk and lairy yes but its more being insensitive to continental values than actually beating the shit out of people.
>don't even throw bottles when the other team takes a corner Seen it done many a time but it will get you a 5 year ban from any ground so that kind of resolves itself.
Asher Morales
>because 1 Kilo is 100 grams
>Argentinian education
Joseph James
goddamn it Santiago you dun goof'd
Blake Collins
I don't even
Samuel Nguyen
>The real teams in Argentina average 80-90k attendances >Small teams somewhere around 50k >Oh shit, I thought "k" meant 100, not 1000 So big teams average 8000-9000 while the small ones 5000? >because 1 Kilo is 100 grams
You have literally stated 5 things and all of them are wrong.
Daniel Peterson
i meant real, not big teams like the big 5, i mean teams that have history in their neighbors like Lanus, Banfield, Temperley, Chacarita and Almirante Brown
Jayden Peterson
lel
Connor Cox
>Leeds leads >Burpton
Camden Evans
they have 1 fewer game than the rest, so that obviously helps the average
David Brooks
No. Depends of whom they are playing in that one game.
Carter Reed
Holy shit, how can you be so bad at math?
Landon Wood
lol compare it to the state of bottom half PL teams
>8 Championship teams higher than 14th place West Brom >Bournemouth attract less than 22 Championship teams
Christopher Williams
i'm not bad at math dumbass, i'm almost an engineer
Blake Cooper
Argentina you are really outdoing yourself today. So adorable. >the actual state of Argentine engineering
Evan Kelly
Remind me never to use any bridges in Argentina.
Bentley Baker
I mean..they do have a tiny stadium.
Asher Wood
Also the 4th lowest % filled. They're normally a third tier club.
Henry Perry
How is that possible that so many PL teams have such small stadiums?
Jayden Brooks
People are mostly mucking you because you think a kilogram is 100 grams, you moron.
David Reyes
Do road signs in Argentina say "Buenos Aires 60km" or "60000m"?
I was slightly more concerned about you calling 100g = 1kg
Adam Gray
This is why you don't own the Falklands.
Bentley Hall
Other countries built a whole bunch of stadiums for world cups and then the teams in the city moved in after, that kind of thing never really happens in the UK, only West Ham and Man City have moved into publicly built stadiums
Jackson Turner
The question is how did so many small clubs manage to get promoted and establish themselves in the PL.
The answer lies in rich backers and good club management vs shit club management.
Justin Adams
mocking*
Jordan Cooper
All sorts of reasons, even the bigger clubs might be limited in their stadium developments by the area around their historic stadiums, like Liverpool and Chelsea.
Leo Howard
Based Newcastle putting the championship on their back
lol wrekt fair play Barely makes any difference to the average though
Kayden Hall
Why do the english love football so much?
Austin Adams
It's cultural, like going to the pub. Why do you love metrosexuality so much?
Jack Collins
same reason virgins love women so much if you can't win, at least be obsessed
Liam Sanchez
Germans aren't obsessed with war though
Colton Wright
History also didn't start in 1900
Logan Williams
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Benjamin White
>Leeds >3rd largest city in England >has only one team >still can't fill their stadium
Embarrassing desu
Nathan Lewis
>3rd largest city in England Source/by what measure?
Eli Fisher
Aha fucking hell
Levi Price
Probably crime stats
Jace Long
Didn't Italian love football more than English? Even Mou said every Italian is a manager.
Jack Moore
>implying we aren't
Aiden Reyes
Don't bother going to the games though do they. Probably because they all chose to support a team hundreds of miles away.
Austin Perez
Hoo lee fak
Tyler Phillips
"almost"....i can see why
Aiden Murphy
Knowing Italian, they probably prefer watching in the bar pretending to be pundit.
Ryan Gomez
Why does Burnley have such shit attendance? Surely people would be ecstatic about their performance. And especially at home.
Xavier Miller
Everyone in Burnley is a man utd fan
Christopher Wright
its weird to see MLS so high, especially because people (whoever they are) complain about half the teams in the league not filling seats when something like 15k is actually upper tier for the world
Elijah Torres
>bandwagoners to the point Juventus are the most popular team in Rome, Milan and most other Italian cities >literally no or very few away fans at some games
Kayden Gonzalez
that's just lazy euro "banter." even the usl is a better league than most euro leagues