Most so-called sex addicts are either women, or men addicted to porn and prostitutes. All this guy has to do is jump in a car from a ride offered to him by a woman, and he gets laid. Or the girl who just comes up next to him in the bar. Or the girl who fucks him on the second date. Or the girl he easily brings up to the hotel. I'm not even sure he paid for those prostitutes at the end.
I don't even know anyone who can pull this off in real life. But is it really problematic at this point? What's the point of feeling lonely when you get so much love and attention?
Jack Thomas
What's the premise of the movie?
Alexander Lewis
Shame
Luis James
Shame
Joseph Gray
Because it's shallow shit. It's not love and attention but on the surface vapid shit. Sex isn't everything, love and fulfilment means more.
Brandon Reyes
>tfw whenever someone talks about Shame I think for a second they're talking about the Bergman film but they're really talking about this middle-brow flavor of the month trash heap.
Jaxon Sullivan
>its a virgin confuses love and affection for sex sex is just sex until you are with someone you actually care about, lil dude
Benjamin Howard
>I don't think I'm an animal that mates just like any other animal >I think my special snowflake thoughts make it something different
loooool okay
Luke Kelly
He's rich, good looking and in an urban environment. More importantly he spends pretty much all his free time on picking up women. If you spent every afternoon and every weekend out in public hitting on women, you'd probably get a decent response at least once a month even if you got nothing going for you.
At the very least you'd quickly learn what not to do. You'd get a lot of rejection, but that's just the name of the game. It's not like addicts maintain their dignity.
Camden Harris
wtf are you even talking about? i never said that people dont just fuck like animals thats actually the point i was trying to make but you are just too stupid to comprehend what you read see what i was getting at is the fact that OP said >What's the point of feeling lonely when you get so much love and attention? implying that random hookups equal love and affection which it doesnt which is what i was inferring
damn nigger you are dumb
Carter Butler
Shame is about two things:
1) living with addiction in city/culture of excess
2) the byproduct of physical/sexual/emotional/etc. abuse
Brandon is a sex addict with a successful career in NYC. He can't escape his addiction because he lives in a city where both prostitution and easy free consensual sex are available at the drop of a hat to a handsome wealthy guy. He can't escape his addiction because he lives in a time period where even if he lived in the middle of Kansas he could still get the sexual attention he craves via the internet and paid for cam girls. He can't escape his addiction because his boss, the man his current livelihood is dependent upon, relies on him to attract attractive women at high class bars and clubs.
It's made obvious through Brandon's interactions with his sister that they are "not bad people" and they only "came from a bad place". Whatever form of abuse Brandon suffered as a child, has negatively impacted his ability to emotionally connect with a woman. He can fuck anyone easily just like he can easily get hard enough to be sucked off by a man. But when it comes to his coworker he has can't even get it an erection because he is emotionally drawn and connected to her.
McQueen's most obvious theme in all three of his films so far is imprisonment. Enslavement. That theme is obvious in both Hunger and 12 Years and does not need explaining. In Shame, Brandon is trapped and imprisoned by his past, his job and social network, his family, and his city.
Samuel Ortiz
lol stfu, if you could pull like him you wouldn't feel the need to cling to your "SO", who if she's anything pretty is probably cheating on you with a scumbag like Brandon
>calls me a virgin
Adam Brown
>lol hi redit normie faggot, why do you even post here?
Samuel Clark
>the man his current livelihood is dependent upon, relies on him to attract attractive women at high class bars and clubs
That's what I don't get. I'm a dude, but I don't understand the Michael Fassbender thing. You're telling me this guy is really a 10/10? He's got thin lips, and the most basic white guy face ever. He literally looks like any pleb anywhere. What is this thing about him being head and tail above the rest in looks.
Plus in the movie he is weird and unnatural, imo. You see the way he talks to that woman at the bar, barely breathing and breaking any eye contact. I hate to use the word, but he just seems to be a little too creepy to be the "man who can pull just by making eye contact" guy that is portrayed in the film. It seems unrealistic. Plus, what's the point of his "wealth" if he doesn't spend it on any of the girls he sleeps with. He doesn't even have a car. Is it just the knowledge that he's wealthy that causes them to sleep with him?
Juan Robinson
It has one good scene when they have their argument and it's filmed from behind. Everything else is hackneyed shit.
Jose Hill
>a rich, handsome, charming man with a very large penis finds it easy to get laid BREAKING NEWS
Zachary Nguyen
It's impossible to be a 10/10 unless you've got a white guy face
Jordan Edwards
he's handsome as fuck and his lips are perfect
Julian Torres
Well the easy answer is "that's his character and just because you don't see him as an attractive catch the characters within the story do"
>Plus in the movie he is weird and unnatural, imo. You see the way he talks to that woman at the bar, barely breathing and breaking any eye contact. I hate to use the word, but he just seems to be a little too creepy to be the "man who can pull just by making eye contact" guy that is portrayed in the film.
Are you talking about the woman his boss was hitting on and Fassbender later fucks in the alley? He wasn't being "creepy" - to her he was disinterested and not only was he not trying too hard like most men do, he wasn't trying AT ALL. That is what drew her to him.
>Plus, what's the point of his "wealth" if he doesn't spend it on any of the girls he sleeps with.
The way he is dressed. The way he is groomed. The places he frequents. All of these things show off his wealth and they are attracted to that and WANT to try and convince him they are worth spending his money on.
>He doesn't even have a car.
It's NYC. Greg Gutfeld is married to a Russian model and he doesn't even have his license. Most successful people in that city don't have cars because it's a nightmare having a car in NYC.
>Is it just the knowledge that he's wealthy that causes them to sleep with him?
For some of them - absolutely.
Daniel Perez
>Are you talking about the woman his boss was hitting on and Fassbender later fucks in the alley?
No I'm talking about the woman in the bar at the end, where he's doing the whole "creep" swag with the grin on his face and immediately launching into perverted talk and throwing out the desperate "can I go down on you" line. I understand that that works on some girls like those with gauges in their ears and a background of being molested as a child. But on a super basic bar slut like the girl in the movie it's just not believable to me.
As far as the first bar scene with his boss and the girls. the only reason he was able to "not try at all" was because his boss opened up those girls in the first place and introduced him. That allowed him to easily play the role of the "not interested" guy, because his boss started the conversation and he was playing opposite him. It was shooting fish in a barrel, and I know women go for that like nothing, but that's not a sign of his great game. If anything it was more of a sign of what lows he was willing to sink to. It's the same thing as fucking your sister in law, or your best friend's or roommate's girl.
Alexander Wright
Well the subtext is that he and his sister we abused as kids, most likely sexually.
