Western civilization allowed women to be sluts and whores with no consequences...

Western civilization allowed women to be sluts and whores with no consequences. That is why birth rates and marriage rates have declined. Still, to this point, people will encourage women to be degenerate, meanwhile making every possible excuse for them, so they aren't held accountable.

Western civilization is dead, and as much as you can blame immigrants for it (it's also their fault), women are a major factor in all this.

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women have always been sluts

today we have condoms, pills and abortion though.

No, it's still the Jews

Yes, indeed they have. Women are inferior to men, and they are mentally one step above children.

But still. It's never been as bad as it is now. In the past, men made sure that women behaved properly, and the ones that didn't were outcasted and labelled as filthy sluts and whores that no man would respect or marry.

>(((Western civilization)))

Just switch to western civilizaiton

Are you implying that western civilization is Jewish somehow? I know the Jews have been meddling with us for a long time, but we deserve to collapse.

No, I'm saying that current one has lots of Jewish elements.

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I will have to watch that video later. I need to have lots of time free when I watch videos like that, so I can absorb the message better and replay whatever parts I have to.

It infuriates me when edgy leftists go on weird rants about how "prude" western civilization is. We are the most sexually degenerate civilization to ever exist in human history. Leftists only think we are "prude" because women cannot, yet, get gangbanged in front of traffic and have everyone approve of it. We've passed the point of no return.

Well, not really, Romans and Greeks were pretty degenerate at times, later Christianity fixed it, I don't like Christianity either, but it did a good job with sexual degeneracy, other people like some of the Germanics were not degenerate at all and even put homos to death. western Civilization has not been that sexually degenerate for a long time, until recently and I don't think it was any more degenerate than other cultures or civilization, even during current times, Muslims are bunch of pedos, niggers rape people left and right and gooks don't seem to be doing very well either with their wanking on anime characters.

I'm talking about western civilization in it's current form, no other civilization has been this sexually degenerate, especially the women. Other civilizations are very degenerate too, but that's not my problem.

It's the fault of weak men putting women into positions of power and leaving them there when they burn it to the ground. Then they insist nothing bad has happened.

It's the fault of stronger men for letting it happen.

It's not just about positions of power. It goes up and down the echelon.

Men absolutely let women go astray, but that bridge has been burned forever. Even the most hardcore traditionalists these days think that men should bear all responsibility, and women shouldn't be held to any standards, and that is simply unsustainable. For all this talk of "strong men", people sure as hell don't like it when one appears on the scene. People only like the idea of strong men.

>People only like the idea of strong men.

True - but the trick is to not give a fuck and be willing to let people hate you. Deep down a lot of these leftists want someone to take charge.

Much like women, weak men want a strong leader - but weak men and women alike are afraid of a strong man abusing that power.

But modern "alpha males" are fags that validate the slut/whore nature of women. So they are automatically discounted.

If I were to take charge, the current situation would be wiped out. Of course, we are talking hypothetically here. I also find it an absolute disgrace that even the top men we have these days allow women to be degenerate, and they cannot comprehend the concept of actually putting a woman in her place.

western civilization took its' hardest fall when women were succesfully convinced that freedom of conscience only applies to them. If they want to sleep around, that's their right, but if men refuse to marry them as a result, in come the activists insisting it needs to be changed.
Any double standard that feminists point to regarding what's expected of a man and what's expected of a woman is purely the result of men having standards and women failing to care. The idea that men are deciding for both sides what they should want is a meme.

>If they want to sleep around, that's their right, but if men refuse to marry them as a result, in come the activists insisting it needs to be changed.

Exactly! It's so fucked up. Traditionalists and feminists and pretty much everyone side with the women and go against the men on that issue. I do google searches on this stuff, with different keywords, and pretty much the ENTIRE Internet supports women totally and thinks men should worship women and never held them accountable for anything.

>But modern "alpha males" are fags that validate the slut/whore nature of women.

It's like 75% of them. But that's 75% of the top 20% of men. There are a lot of angry losers who can't figure it out, and it's partially because they've framed their whole lives where women are equal (and often better.)

Western men need to remember how to be Men. Tell a bitch to shut the fuck up today.

In real life the average woman in the US only has four sex partners in her life, you just think it's the norm to have a one night stand every weekend because of reading bullshit manosphere websites and watching porn every day (you'll no doubt get trubo triggered by that last one but only because it's true).

Sup Forums is one step above children
fuck off with your hypocrisy, moose fucker

"The manosphere" believes in chivalry. I do not. Women in the modern western world do not deserve men to be chivalrous towards them and give them special treatment.

As for the porn, no. I have not watched it in a long time, it is absolutely degenerate and should be shut down. The entire thing is degenerate. On that note though, it worries me how many women are in porn, and how taking nude selfies and being involved in slut culture is the norm now. I see the claim of four partners being repeated often here, but I never see a source, and with everything else I've seen, I'm going to go ahead and say that's wrong.

That's because your less than morally stellar peers have failed to be proper role models for women. You realize the sexual revolution quickly became a "me too" movement for women? You couldn't possibly expect that you could get away with monopoly on the wild oat sewing, right?

Maybe you should focus on reigning in your own. Like how feminists should reign in certain women who capitalize on stupid men. Teach your fellow pigs to start respecting women, more companionship, less chomping at the bit to stick your fucking dicks in them. How 'bout that, asshole?

>women are a major factor in all this.