Why do Republicans think abandoning our allies is a decent and smart thing to do?
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They're just going along with whatever Trump says.
There's your problem right there.
Here you go bud. I wouldn't want you to get confused so I fixed it for ya
implying the Turks aren't our biggest regional ally for the past forever
Both far left democrats and far right republicans are as bad as each other, they only encompass 0.5% of the US populace, the rest are normal people who have to sit day in and day out listening to verbal diarrhea from both sides.
Its not the republicans, its just trump. Even republicans think what hes doing is insane.
oof ouch owie my democratic process
If Trump were a warmonger you'd be crying about it. Trump isn't a warmonger and you cry about it. No matter what you'd cry about it.
Keep crying you're going to need to do it through 2024
Exactly. Party solidarity is more important than anything else to them. Zero disagreements are tolerated no matter what the proposal is.
You never even had a democratic process. Your parents lied to you.
all the establishment politicians see him trying to pull out of the middle east and they're like "no, that's where all our weapon lobby money comes from!"
I live in America, the most representative nation in the world! FREEDOM
It's not just Trump. You'd know this if you bothered asking why they're still supporting him even after getting all worked up about abandoning the Kurds.
Not OP or American, but why do young faggots like you always assume people are angry or autistic etc? Shows your ignorance and your age.
I guarantee you couldn't give a good example on why you voted Trump except Immigration and Jobs.
If I asked you why was leaving the TPP for an exclusive deal with Taiwan was beneficial, you wouldn't have a clue, because people like you vote by keywords, and when the shit hits the fan you will be the first to project your shit life onto others to make yourself feel better, but in the end you still have a shit life.
Zero disagreements are tolerated no matter what the proposal is.
Same as the democrats then? Theres no way you can bag on one party and not the other without looking like an ignorant and naive hypocritical moron both parties do the same shit.
why do we even have representatives? Made sense when it took someone 3 days to get to the city but now? just send us shit to vote on to our phones. Also, why do we have a president? why should one man get to rule? fuck that.
Why do democrats think dumping billions of dollars of our already dwindling resources into being the world police is a decent and smart thing to do?
fuck you anarchist, go drink wine in france if you hate america so much
kurds are not our allies
I'm not saying zero government. I'm just saying why can't the people have more control?
How would you secure that?
we worked with kurds to stomp isis but we never intended to help them establish an independent nation
I'm euro and this has always been my thoughts in regards to the u.s.
Either the UN has you guys by the balls, or you have the UN by the balls. Don't know which.
Citizens in this country have a huge amount of control over their representatives. America has one of the most anti-government constitutions in existence. Who has done it better than us?
Again not American, but why do Americans think pumping 800bn into a military budget, that mostly builds stealth fighters that will never get used, will keep them safe from ISIS?
China and Russia spend about 200bn max on theirs, and neither have much trouble, because they are smart and aren't using the military budgets to make corporates profit from false pretenses.
600bn+ could be saved easily each year which could be injected back in the US economy in ways of promoting jobs, improving education, subsidizing health care so it costs less for all Americans.
Imagine how good that would be. Well thats all you can do is Imagine about it, because since the 80s Corporations have had power in the congress and senate and have been raping you hard.
Ever wonder why corporates only pay 300bn a year in corporate tax, while American workers pay a combined total of 2.6trn in tax? Because you lot fall for it.
Not even angry or upset, the fact you think I am means you are projecting that you are.
both, it's a circlejerk
People are sick of playing world police.
Warhawks don't want to lose their profits from the military industrial complex.
It's honestly a brilliant move by Trump. Fulfill his promises to withdraw troops while at the same time causing the supposedly peace loving liberals to foam at the mouth for another pointless war over another irrelevant border in the middle east.
I don't know, someone smarter than I could figure it out I'm sure? Is it really that different from voting machines, decides we can watch the office while we vote?
I understand what you're saying, but your reps can go back on what you want or change their views depending on which corporation is giving them more money this month. Same with the President. There has to be a better way to do it than we currently have, to give the people more control.
American, but I don't live in the U.S. anymore. The american government and both parties are guilty of this. Increase defense spending, increase military spending, it never ends. Then you have the para-military corporations meddling in everything politicians do and all that coupled with the fact that the american government has a hero complex and the budget gets way out of control.
"Democracy is the worst form of government, except for all the others."
It's honestly a brilliant move by Trump.
Because our "Allies" do jack shit for us at all in truth.
You're an idiot.
The problem isn't because the US is going to save a little bit of military money,
the issue is that no one in that part of the world will ever trust the word of the USA again.
Trump is an unreliable, unfaithful actor,
but now he's given the USA that reputation as well.
why do we have a president? why should one man get to rule? fuck that.
I think you need to sit through one grade school government class to learn at least something.
Right, they're our allies because we paid them money and equipment so we could help them liberate their own country from ISIS. We can't go and backstab Turkey by helping them to build a hostile Kurdistan right on their southern border.
Nah, other user is right. It's not a great look for the left.
Fuck off with that, Norway is even more deregulated free market capitalist than America, moron.
There's no reason why we can't have a group of people instead of a president run the executive branch.
Norway: Lots of Oil
United States: Lots of Niggers
Really makes you think.
its funny how people still believe that most republicans support trump
and what are they doing to stop him? nothing,just like when he violated the 2nd ammendment
that we need to liberate norway from all that sweet oil?
They don't! It's literally just Mr Trump. The republicans in the senate and congress are as pissed as the liberals.
socialism isnt going to be the paradise you left wing morons think it is
I'm not smart enough to figure it out, but what I can tell you is that our current implementation of the internet is unusable for truly secure communications. If we can't reliably secure our banks with it, how could it possibly be usable for something as important as appointing our government officials?
What the hell good would that do?
The executive branch is just one branch.
The president isn't as important as your average idiot makes him out to be.
yeah,there so pissed that they just let him do whatever because "he's makin murica great again!"
if they were pissed,they'd get rid of him and mike pence would be president and clean the mess trump left and start running america like a republican should be
faggot anarchist, go suck off a marxist professor
Warmongering Democrat Scum.
there's always going to be a level of insecurity with the internet. I'd be curious to see where we are with it right now vs voting machines which we know are insecure.
Norway tax businesses correctly and inject that into the country giving the benefits to everyone.
US taxes businesses 10.5%, rebates 9% of it back. Quality of life is shite in the US. Having to pay for your healthcare which is the same quality as the majority of the world. Having to pay full stop for shit that is enjoyed as part of taxation elsewhere.
But media channels have you fooled into thinking you are actually well off and rich as you munch onto your meat-glued products which is made from scraps and sinew.
Americans are the most delusional people on the planet, even North Koreans know how shit their country is.
Why do Republicans think abandoning our allies is a decent and smart thing to do?
Kurds are not our allies. They're Communist muslims who attack christian militias in iraq and syria.
They're loyal to nobody but themselves. If they had aligned with Assad they would have been fine and Russia would have handed Turkey their asses, but the kurds are a bunch of assholes.
I suppose it depends on how you feel about executive orders, foreign relations, and war.
The troops are still in Syria. They pulled 50 soldiers out of two observation bases. They are still very much there.
Obama fucked healthcare even more and in no way is he responsible for any increase in jobs. Even though it is true more people are employed, were working more hours for considerably less money.
Fuck off, nobody wants to live in a socialist America, freedom and individual liberty are not negotiable.
How did they not figure it out after this? Anyone who's still a Trump Supporter is a fucking idiot.
What Reagan did do was start the ball rolling that Created Al'Qaeda.
When you give Saddam Hussein $1 trn (80s value) in goods, arms, biological agents, money to grab power in Iraq and then attack Iran because the Shah was kicked out of power there and you no longer get cheap oil for helping in Afghanistan against Russia's invasion by training Mujahideen, and to top it off shoot down an Iranian passenger jet by sailing into Iranian waters illegally. While disgusted with America and the Bush syndicate trading with their family, Osama Bin Laden goes to Afghanistan and takes the trained Mujahideen and forms Al'Qaeda.
Thats how good Reagan was for you.
And the reason why Bin Laden targeted the WTC, because of trade which he feels broke up his family values.
Where did you get socialism from? You people love spewing nonsensical bullshit out of nowhere.
Cause like most of the citizens, we are sick and fucking tired of bankrolling everybody elses fucking problems. Figure your own shit out
Once you leftists admit the inequalities of IQ and race then we can talk economic policy
Ya just ignore the last 300 years of cultural success and data
Your shitty pic dosen't disprove my point
Was that too much truth for you, also I am not American, and everything I said is in declassified CIA documents from 2002-3.
Is your fee fees hurt because your precious America isn't as angelic as you thought it was?
Agreed, and unfortunately, I'm not sure that a truly secure system is possible; at least not without being completely impractical.
Voting machines, even the current ones, would probably be good enough if they would just keep mandatory paper printouts to ensure that results are easily auditable. The fact that this is somehow a point of contention makes me distrust the entire voting system and the results thereof.
no one in that part of the world will ever trust the word of the USA again
They never did. Even Israel, supposedly America's BFF hates the US, why do you think they still don't have an extradition treaty with the US? They want to keep their country a save haven for their spies to run to. Every country in the middle east will flip between US and Russia depending on whose handing out weapons and whose staying out of the way of them killing other middle easterns. Its a joke that suddenly the concept of "loyalty" is important in the middle east because Trump showed some preference to one more powerful "ally" that plays Russia vs US over another "ally" that is only ally in the sense that we sent weapons to keep them from being wiped out by a common enemy. Didn't hear the word betrayal come up once when we were attacking Iraq
But you got to admit its impressive how the incas build a pyramid about 2000 years before the incas were a thing
Also just to point out 4 of those dates are wrong.
Also the stone age/bronze age period was further back than 1000BC in Europe.
Right, because mutual support against Saddam Hussein and continued support against ISIS troops don't count as an alliance...
The vine that doesn't pick a side dies rotting on the fence.
Are you unaware of the location of Egypt?
Is this where I'm supposed to say, "We wuz kingz and shit"?
Bernie2020 is coming, get ready boot lickers
Are you aware Africa wasn't a continent when Egypt was in its prime? The land was there, but Africa didn't exist.
Also the Pyramids date back to 4000bc-3500bc
The stone age hut at the bottom in Europe was around 9500BC. Iron age started around 4000BC in Europe.
So anyone who believes that picture is under-educated and ignorant, and will believe anything told to them.
I don't care funny how you yanks always thing everyone is American and the thing you hate when they say something you don't like.
You need your pacifier/dummy tit?
holy shit did you use BonziBuddy to help you write this?
You sound very upset, stick that thing back in your mouth.
democrats: We need to stop getting invloved in pointless wars and stop being the world police
Obama: *gets involved in pointless wars and plays world police*
Trump: Wants to pull out of pointless wars and stop being the worlds police
Democrats" OMFG RAZIST NAZI!!!! HOW CAN DUMPFH JUST DO THAT EXACT THING WE WANTED?!?!?!?
Are you aware Africa wasn't a continent when Egypt was in its prime? The land was there, but Africa didn't exist.
Is this what you millennial tards have been taught?
Obama tripled the stock market
He came in at a low point. they only place it had to go was up. And thats including giving obama credit for the stock market surge that went down after trump won.
The land was there, but Africa didn't exist.
You just know this guy beats his wife and has an entire walk in closet of secrets lol
So what you're saying is Obama tripled the stock market, thank you.
Are you aware that Egypt was culturally closer to arabs than niggers?
Democrats are the party of the poor. Republicans are the party of the rich. They both want your votes.
One wants to keep you poor to keep voting for them. The other wants you to be successful and rich and keep voting for them.
"Obama had nothing to do with the stock market"
"So what you're saying is Obama tripled the stock market"
10/10 reading comprehension
Doesnt change the fact that Egypt is in africa... keep moving the goal post lol
ITT euro cucks and shills. If you actually believe any of this, or spend your time arguing with these retards, you are just as bad as those who you denounce
Niggers didn't build the pyramids
Pretty much. There's no chance that he'd skate by without criticism if he supported and then got dragged into another war. "Our brave men in the armed forces are forced to lose their lives over a destructive foreign policy of interventionism!"
Of course not. They were obviously built by the Jews, just like everything else that matters.
Found the yuropoor. The EU is fucking worthless and produces close to nothing.
Wahh I don't like what someone else said so they must be a boomer
Quick google search just debunked half of those statistics and the other half is very dishonest in how they gathered the data. Try again
caring about a group that sees you a sub human
I often feel maybe it's better to vote for the most extreme lefty to accelerate
She's probably dead now
trump could shoot their mothers in the face in front of them and republicans would still agree with him
This is apples and oranges. Get back to me when Norway is leading the world in medical research and advances bc that costs an insane amount of money to do. It’s why the EU is able to have universal healthcare in the first place, they don’t have to worry about costs to ducking produce anything.
This, china and russia don't allow for crony capitalism because their governments have a harder lockdown on their market.
This is why china is surpassing us currently. Too much a freemarket inspires individualism and kills nationalism. Thus money over country.
If you are a liberal, or a conservative, you are a sheep in a flock being lead. Nothing more. Neither side will ever take much lead over the other, and that is the fucking point. You spend your whole life arguing why the other side is so stupid and wrong, not realizing that the same shepard controls everyone.
Being so retarded as to believe the Presidents have that kind of impact on the economy instead of the Fed, Wall St., Congress, etc.
I bet you think Dubya was responsible for the sub-prime mortgage crisis, too. KEK
Cool, we can expect legions of turk soldiers on the ground then in the next few years dying in scores in machine gun battles against ISIL right?
They aren't going to do that. That was the kurds who the turks are going to kill now...
We are ISIL, we do not forget we do not forgive, expect us?
I'll take SOME of the bait. I remember a time when all the democrats lost their minds because we had a full blown invasion of the Middle East (to spread freedom). Then they lost their minds when we never left, saying we need to leave as we have no business attacking them. Then a guy who everyone hates decides "we have no business being there...let's just leave!" Then they lost their minds again because apparently we do have sufficient cause to remain an occupying force in the Middle East and funding minority militants is totes cool now! Make up your fucking minds! Also, never forget we were Allies with the fucking Iranians. Look it up and see how that went
dude, thats my argument
Taking a shitpost seriously
Keep it up, Cletus!
This shit right here.
Well he needs some distraction from being impeached, he doesn't give a fuck who lives or dies, just what he gets out of life.
He is the boomer supreme.
Kek, it was actual Billy Clinton and his "a house for all" program that led to crisis
Nice. I've been called a boomer and a millennial in the same thread. Who else wants to try?
I meant to click the post ID you were replying to, phoneposting, muh bad.
that's where it lost all credibility.
Also the repealment of Glass-Steagall.
What is 911?
Generational insults are fucking stupid anyway. Most actual boomers are too old and internet illiterate to even be aware of Sup Forums, much less shitpost cringe on Sup Forums.
I think we can all agree on "idiot".
Yeah... we wouldnt want to blame any sleazy bankers for any of that mess now would we
It's really interesting you would mention that, because looking at the 2018 US Criminal Victimization Survey, we can see clearly that whites are roughly twice as violent as blacks.
And considering the entire total of non-white violent attackers doesn't come close to approaching the number of white victims, it becomes sickeningly clear that even whites cannot trust whites.
The statistics are clear-
Around Whites, Expect Fights.
Stopping the turks from slaughtering the kurds is not 'helping the kurds establish an independent nation'.
It is helping war allies to establish an existence on this planet without death.
You need to cut the last 3 rows if you want to use this, otherwise the statistics are really clear and you'll lose the argument. But 2/10 for making me kek.
Let's not rule out the reptilians quite yet, we still really don't know...
You can blame them too, I'm fine with that. Just so long as it's known it Built Clinton who initially empowered them to stay selling houses to people they knew couldn't afford them. Keep in my, I love Billy fuckin' C
All this because he said some kurd girl is probably dead? Holy fuck you zoomers really are retarded snowflakes.
Cool story bro. Nobody asked the murkans to wage any war. Their presence there without fighting anyone protected the kurds, our allies.
Withdrawing the troops just to create a distraction from impeachment means people die for no reason, ISIL re-emerges, and the west loses an ally who is willing to fight and die with us.
Trump supporters see reality
Trump haters see an imagined image
ally for the past forever
Pick up a history book!
Turkey has always been suspect ally and time change.
Turkey loyalty is changing and that transition is toward what ever their president wants, toward the "fundamentalist" part of the Islamic spectrum, and with the purchase of Russian weapon systems, towards Russia.
The Kurds have been more loyal. They also have societal values that the west identify, and above all, they shed a shit load of blood to defeat ISIS.
They have earned the right to be treated as an ally.
The Kurds did not fight along side US personnel but IN FRONT of them.
But to be an American ally is also changing.
No longer is America as good as its word.
No longer can America be trusted.
Be a friend of America risks betrayal.
I feel not only for the Kurds but for the US service people who have to follow orders, pull back and just watch their friends and their families die.
Have you seen European history? Obviously we can't. Which is one reason the founding fathers wanted us to have the means of protecting ourselves and families. All humans are inherently dangerous
Columns, not rows you brainlet, you owe me 5 minutes of my life back trying to figure out how the fuck the bottom three rows mattered and that you're retarded.
ha ha having no opinions? based enlightened centrists lololol
You're replying to the wrong person, I've not commented any such thing.
If you dont want full communism or race war now, then you dont have an opinion
Both ends of the horseshoe need to be purged
How do the last 3 rows have any bearing on the stats he has shown ITP? Seems pretty clear.
You're right, now I feel stupid.
I forgot that we, in 1955, are still saying that it's either whites only God-fearing capitalist or hippy race mixing communism thought police.
Your reductionism is a bigger problem than just the left or right. Politics isn't binary
why do shitposters not post in /pol?
Trump isn’t a Republican. He’s a NY politician, which means he’s a liar and a Democrat.
That’s all you got? Holy fuck. You really are retarded.
it is mostly correct, but some of it is misrepresented.
for one we don't have 8 weeks of paid vacation, we instead have a mandatory minimum of 4 (5 if you are in a tariff bound company) weeks of vacation per year.
to cover lost income during the vacation we instead set off a percentage of our wages during the rest of the year to be paid out when we take a vacation or if we quit the job.
That's why Republicans resented his run for the presidency to begin with and why not many are vouching for him. He's a RINO, writ "bigly".
Take thosequints and fuck off double hitler. Voting machines are a joke. Votes should only be written by hand. They should even switch to forcing voters to get their fingers dipped in ink like they do in shitholeistan.
niggers done it
the complete inability to admit that a pure capitalist system is what done it.
look at the top 10 democratic countries in the world.
now look at the top 10 highest living standard countries.
what do they all have in common?
they all employ some form of mixed economy with focus on the welfare state.
Am I supposed to look where those countries are too? Or who inhabites them?
You're part of the problem. Hand written votes are the least efficient and most easily falsifiable way of doing it because you have no redundancy. Go crawl back up your whore mother's rotten cunt because you're completely useless out here.
"Pure" captialism is teh bad guyz trust me hurr durr
Ha. What is had in the USA is an Oligarchic shadow of capitalism, hardly "pure" capitalism by any true definition. Funny how the rich elitists keep trying to tell us peons that we need "Socialism" to level the playing field instread of ousting corruption and restoring what balanced capitalism in the first place. They already got theirs and they'll disappear or rule at the top if "Socialism" gets installed. Fuck off with your shill bullshit.
You couldn't be more wrong, its logistically more difficult to convincingly alter a million hand written ballots than run a program that alters 1 million digital ones in 10 minutes.
What an absolute load of shit. Voting is supervised, transportation of votes by locked box is supervised, vote counting is supervised, and votes are available if recounts are needed.
Fuck off back to the cyberbunker Yvgeny, your shitposting shift is about to start.
You don't have to alter anything. In single verifier systems, papers can just disappear. It's magic, really.
why is the fat guy in sepia-tone?
Sure, that's why the 2000 elections are looked back on so fondly.
Lucky then, that the US is the richest bunch of tards on the planet, and can afford the resources to make sure votes can't disappear.
Oh wow, you're one of those. Nevermind then since nothing anybody can say will ever convince you that you're not the smartest person in the world.
You mean the ones where scores of people said the voting machines wouldn't let them vote democrat? Those ones?
Yep. The same ones with no paper backups. Keyword here is backups btw.
Oh wow, you're one of those.
Muh conspiracy of disappeared votes is totally real, and much more likely to happen than hacking or cyber breaching of electronic votes.
Da comrade.. I mean fellow Amurican. Vote electronically, vat could go wronk?
How is hacking an issue if the machine also spits out a printed confirmation of what ever you voted for?
he isn't going insane he has been insane for decades!
Hahaha! Republicans HATE him. Learn this one simple trick for getting rid of all your allies!
there are plenty of european countries that have a equal or greater white percentage of the population than the top 10 countries and yet they are still down the shitter.
is this also because of niggers?
funny how socialism evens the playing field in all the countries that actually employ it.
but no way, it's because of minorities and absolutely not because of a system which by nature prevents social mobility and absolutely not because of a democratic system that on a good day rates as "flawed".
Oh, you mean shambolic UK or France? Or the cucks in Germany and Sweden? The EU and it's "Democratic Socialist" countries are a Barely functioning Ponzi scheme, which is why the EU is desperate to prevent Brexit, since losing the U.K.'s portion of money will be the jenga pull that causes it to crumble, since Germany would be financially pulling the bulk of the EU at that point. Super cool story, breh.
its my understanding that this is the one thing Trump is getting trouble with his homies right now, no?
PKK are Communists, after Turkey snuffs em out Trump can swoop in and push for Kurdistan statehood on the cheap.
Izzies can help arm new Kurdish state so they can kick Turkeys ass
The better question is, why is it that when Orange doesnt want war, like now or like when they kept harping on Trump being a “non interventionalist,” they go on and on about how bad it is, but ignore the fact they’re literally, LITERALLY being war mongers just to be on the contrary of Trump and to bang the “Orange Man Bad” drum.
Which means that Dems dont actually care about staying out of wars, hence Hillary voting for the War in Iraq or all of the shit Obama(and Hillary) got up to in Mexico, Lybia, Syria, Ukraine/Crimea, etc etc.
TL;DR you’re literally a useful idiot that’s being manipulated by the military and media industrial complex to be a war mongering faggot and you dont even think twice about it becuz “Orange Man Bad.”
Nice google translate post Ivan.
Leaving US troops stationed in the region so turks don't bomb kurds did not constitute warmongering since it prevented any war, and prevented any deaths.
Any amount of deaths of western allies like the kurds is worth it though to distract from impeachment eh?
Too bad impeachment proceedings are preceeding.
Orange fan mad.
Leaving US troops stationed in the region so turks don't bomb kurds did not constitute warmongering since it prevented any war, and prevented any deaths.
I've heard the "why are the liberals warmongering" so much lately, it's ridiculous.
PEACE KEEPING FORCE. Look it up morons.
Lol first you say im a russian than an “orange fan” which is big boy?
Cuz the answer is neither, but like everyone kept saying with Obama during the 2012 election “we gotta vote for him again even tho he’s a deception establishment candidate, becuz Lesser of Two Evils.”
I wont vote for Trump, but he’s the best of a band hand still, becuz Dems are still being hysterical conspiracy theorists.
Also who cares about the kurds in the long wrong? Throwing more troops in the middle east for “military engages” will eventually lead to more War especially since the people we’d be fighting are the Turks who would be rather invested in fighting the U.S and their allies to keep them engaged in fighting and hopefully distract Trump, since he threatened to destroy their economy when it came out that they were funding ISIS.
Granted the US under Obama still trained ISIS, so we still got some of that plan, but either way, staying military engaged in the middle east anymore than we absolutely have to, is a bad idea, we’d just end up doing more shady regime change shit and training future terrorists, like we did with the muslim brotherhood Lybia and ISIS/ISOL.
But kept doing whatever mental gymnastics you must to avoid acknowledging that you’re being a puppet of the military and media industrial faggot, you war mongering commie cunt.
And how would one keep the peace in a region already being attacked? Oh right through “kinetic military engagement” or y’know WAR.
Especially considering who the “enemy” would be, in this case Turkey, the guys who were outed for funding ISIS.
It’d benefit them to attack our pawn of an ally to get us engage on a military front rather than engage will the US on the geopolitical stage which Trump was threatening to do like a day before Turkey starting attacking the Kurds/that region
They all have average iqs above 100?
But... America already has many wellfare systems in place, but the funny thing is, they’re only for poor people, the disabled and the elderly, y’know the people who ACTUALLY NEED IT.
Stop bitching that America is some absolutely capitalist paradise just because YOU arent getting the shit you want for free!
It’s like the retards who say “pro-life people only care about the child before its born, thats why they dont advocate for programs for after their born.” When in reality all the social programs a disadvantaged child needs has literally already been establish decades ago, free school, lunch and healthcare, etc, as long as they are actually disadvantaged and not some cunt like you who’s well enough off but still wants to milk the system for their gibs and even then they’d still probably get it.
Fuck the Kurds and the Turks, it’s not the USA’s job to make the children on the playground get along. Let those mother fuckers fend for themselves. Only the strongest survive baby.
You act like the two are exclusionary. You are clearly a Russian and an orange fan.
You wont vote for trump because you are not eligible to vote in the US. You will just American Civel War part II Electric Boogaloo shitpost all day long instead.
Why not take a break and go get some borscht in the mess hall? Vitaly maight be with vodka thare. Is good time.
Also, get better translate machin comrade.
Kek silly americans he will not make it to end of year in office. Republican establshment will throw him under bus
Nah, that's a cool story and all, but all the US troops have to do 'to keep the region from being attacked' is hang around and play cards and jerk off to internet porn. The turks, (nor anyone else) will dare launch a military attack where the US army is stationed for risk of starting a war with the US.
There was no imminent attack like hysterical shitposters such as yourself are making out, an attack was planned when trump pulled US forces out.
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Oh no..... you’re literally an NPC, i should have figured. I thought you were just being ironic, turns out that’s just how you are.
Does not matter what i say now, you’ll just imagine any conspiracy theory you can to keep your narrative in its safe place.
And let me repeat that, you’re such a useful idiot, you’re literally coming up with conspiracy theories and using the “russian bot” conspiracy theory to dismiss people advocating against war, which is why you didnt even address the meat of what i was saying and fixated on your “russian bot” conspiracy theory.
because they are a party of morally bankrupt shitheads.
This is one boring-ass thread.
But I'm theone holding the money bag. Why wouldn't I vote Republican?
Why do Republicans think abandoning our allies is a decent and smart thing to do?
they are parasites and do nothing but use us as their personal bank accounts but never pay us back.
Uh what? No. MSNBC either yesterday or the day before were literally saying that the kurds were under attack, of course they didnt show any actually footage, but Chris Hayes was literally saying they Kurds are under attack.
Which if they were under attack, which i agree they werent by the media industrial complex are war mongering fascists, so they war mongered, but if Trukey actually did attack the Kurds, it would mean it was a deliberate attempt to get us to engage with them military, the same way attacking a DPS or Healer forces the Tank to engage and defend their weaker allies.
But the funny the is, whether there was an attack or not, either way the media was literally hyping it up to literally war monger.
Just like when Trump said he was a non interventionist, which i doubt he could even pronounce, and everyone jumped on him for it as if being an interventionist like oh idk, Obama, turned out well for anyone considering the state of Lybia with its literal slave markets and Syria still in chaos becuz of the ISIS/ISOL forces we trained before and after the regime change in Lybia.
Or y’know Mexico thats more so run by cartels now more than ever thanks to Obama’s blunder with Fast and The Furious, the Operation not the movie.
You said exactly what I was going to say. Thanks for saving me the time user.
Isnt that the exact line they used when he first got elected? And with the Mueller report? How’d that work out for ya, champ?
keep REEEing at your screen, im sure you’re years long tantrum will finally get you your way.
Typical dumb amerifat
Of course dubya wasn't responsible, but he didn't help. As presidential blame goes, he is as responsible as clinton.
They have no conscious. And if there's no money in it, fuck 'em!
House to house firefights and trench warfare against ISIL and Daesh is not paying back?
Maybe you could go have a firefight against ISIL if you don't want the kurds to do it instead.
Did you have to have some kind of surgery to become this stupid?
So by that logic Obama is not just responsible for the Patriot Act, ignoring that his VP Biden wrote the first draft of the Patriot Act back under Clinton in the 90s Obama promised to let the Patriot Act expire but literally the same day it expired he signed into law the Freedom Act, which was nearly identical to the Patriot Act except their names.
Meaning not only is Bush less responsible for it, considering when it was first written, but Obama is double if not triple the responsibility, becuz he abused to high heaven, but renewed it and pretended he kept his promise since it technically let the “Patriot Act” expire, he also has as his VP the guy who wrote up the rough draft of it.
The Republican party has the combined mental capacity of a brick. Honestly, they should be treated like tards. Separate them into "special" classes to keep them away from important matters they have no business in being a part of
BAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA, HA , HOOO THATS FUNNY SHIT KID
at least we don't need our government to tell us how to think, act, what religion to believe in, or run our lives. fuck the dems, keep that shit to yourselves and stay out of my pockets.
exactly the same way the lefties cared so much about "muh innocent civilians" right up until obama started ordering drone strikes on all sorts of civvies, all i heard was crickets.
any and all criticism of that turd was met with allegations of racism.
hope you're enjoying this shit. the pendulum hasn't even reset. it's still on it's way back to the right.
enjoy the next 13 years.
send shit to our phones so mob rule can win and LA and New York can decide what happens for the country
Fuck off cunt.
"you have to vote for the bill before you can see what's in it" -pelosi
"we need to ban air travel so the sky god won't be angry with us anymore" - occasional-cortex
your team is a real brain trust, too, user.
gonna call pot and kettle on this one
Trips of truth.
tell us how to think, act, what religion to believe in, or run our lives
Republicans are the very example of group think.
Look how many have kept quiet about the illegal activities of Trump.
Look how many swallow Foxnews & White House talking point without question.
To be fair, the brain dead sjw crowd are also deluded and tricked by their lecturers into being unthinking, uncritical spouters of bullshit.
Dont forget “dont shut the govt down, we want compromise” Trump offers compromise but they refuse, Trump shuts the govt down “HOW COULD HE DO THIS?! DOESNT HE CARE ABOUT THE PEOPLE OF THIS COUNTRY”
Ignores the fact it was becuz they refuse to let Trump build the wall that has the people of this country’s best interest at heart, that the govt was shut down.
I think there's a great deal of pushback from Republicans, both politicians and voters, after Trump's latest move.
He offered no compromise you pitiful shill.
The majority of US citizens voted against building a new border wall. Especially seeing as there is already a border wall between the US and Mexico.
Building a mega billions and billions and billions uber elite edgewall just to dog whistle to trumptards while cartels travel under it in tunnels is not in anyone's interest except trump.
Have you forgotten the democrats got more votes? The majority voted against it, if Republitards want to hold a plebiscite just to get a mandate for a new border wall, they are welcome to hold one.
What does the border wall have to do with trump abandoning US fighting allies to their deaths and ensuring armies don't trust the US in future exactly?
What was Trump's justification for abandoning the Kurds and allowing Turkey free reign?
I have a question. Why were republicans so obsessed with Benghazi (for which there was an investigation that Hillary Clinton sat through the hearing for and cooperated with) but they don't give a fuck about the loss of US lives due to Trump incompetence? There was Nigeria, and now Turkey shelling the fuck out of US troops. But the Republicans just kind of shrug it off. Where's the investigation? Where's the "LOCK HIM UP" chants from those same people who cared so much when they thought Hillary did something?
We were talking about an economic problem with multiple complicated causes; the patriot act has clear writers and yes obama has blame for continuing its policies.
What exactly are you arguing here?
A quick and cheap distraction from his disastrous ever spiralling impeachment proceedings.
That seems unlikely as there are better ways to distract that don't draw more criticism directly to you.
Bringing the troops home, something the Democrats have been championing for ages
But when orange man does it, suddenly all the democrats want more troops in the middle east
You're all out of Tegrity
US foreign policy is now dependent upon which countries have Trump properties and what money Trump can make for himself.
Fuck Kurd lives. Fuck US lives. Fuck allies. Fuck America.
I would believe this if he simply wanted them home but didn't give Turkey carte blanche to do whatever they wanted. You can be an ally without having forces on the ground, promising to arrive if allies are attacked. It's how most alliances work.
yes, democrats want troops home, but they also don't want to do things like abandoning allies, leaving power vacuums, etc. You're an idiot for thinking things are so black and white, or you're showing your true colors as a bad faith actor.
Democrats have been championing for ages
No, we just don't want to get involved in pointless ones with no actual commitment. Syria would have been a good war to commit to, but obama/trump pussied out against russia: we could have had ww3. If you aren't prepared for that why bother?
Name just one tactic that would distract from impeachment on a 24 hour news cycle.
War takes precedent over politics at all times.
Republicans always start military campaigns to distract from internal affairs.
More pathetic misdirection. Democrats want troops out of war zones if it is feasible and beneficial.
Those troops were not in a war zone, or in danger.
No surprise you y'all queda /pol/ fuckers are on the side of ISIL. You share nearly every single policy in common with the west's enemies. Fucking fascist traitors.
The impending trade agreement they just reached? It's been playing havoc with markets for months now and they arrived at a tentative deal just today. Which means they were close to one a few days ago when this happened.
Number of violent incidents vs population %
Lmfao you really don't understand the 13% 50% meme do you? Pointing out there are more white violent incidents when they encompass 62.3% of the population means very little when ~1/2 of violent incidents are committed by niggers, making up 12% of population
That's a lot of cope from you trying to debate the facts that whites are twice as violent as blacks.
It seems pretty clear.
Breed more whites, expect more fights.
U havin' a giggle m80? Most mouthbreather don't even know what a trade agreement is or how one works. Trade agreements are boring as fuck, and headlines relating to one might last a day or two, then right back to impeachment headlines.
Wars, particularly ones the US directly caused under trump's stable genius tactics, can take the dominant headlines for weeks at a time.
Good thing the second headline underneath war will still be impeachment.
Yes, people wouldn't be distracted by the best piece of economic news we have had in years. The antidote to the main reason economists are predicting the next recession (which doesn't affect individuals, their jobs, their families or lives in any way). No interest there. Best to look like a coward and one who abandons their allies when facing criticism. That will definitely shift focus away from yourself and your follies.
Republicans are people who can't get past the level one of life which is: gtfo of religion
so they are useful idiot tools for the elites. they don't have a brain. they don't know how to think critically. they gobble up all of sky daddies cummies.
Norway is a very small population, homogenous and with a shit ton of oil, VERY different to a 400m+ population which is totally fucked up in races, economy, social services.................. and so on
Here's a fresh headline for you shill.
The turks have 'accidentally' attacked US special forces.
You can't base statics on a very small population towards a huge population, also most of it is bullshit, cheers
Please go back to redd1t, Dmitri
There's no such thing as a far-left Democrat, Democrats are center right
Great way to prove nothing.
Everything left of the SS is far left to /pol/tergeists. Even the centre and libertarian spidermen.
Great way to prove you are a traitor to your ancestors, and a traitor to the west.
Trump orders US force supporting the Kurds to stand down after he get yelled at by Erdogan in phone call.
Tells the world he just wants to bring the troops home like he promised.
Then just days later orders 1800 troops to Saudi Arabia. WTF?
I guess his property/business interests in Turkey and Saudi Arabia are safe.
Life is sweet when you can us the machinery fo state to make money or dig up dirt to get re-elected.
I didn't expect much from someone who really believes that getting US troops bombed would take pressure off Trump, but even this was disappointing.
Jesus Christ I would lick a dead elephants asshole-eio for that rifle
Have you ever heard about the 14 words you Nazi fuck? Here they are again in case you have forgotten them-
You are a giant cunt and your country and ancestors are ashamed of you.
which future do you want?
Most prescriptions aren't covered in Canada and it's a huge expense for many people that drain their finances. You are just fine if you require a regular family doctor. Wait times for specialists or specific tests can sometimes take years.
It's great here and I wouldn't take the American model, but he's incorrect in some spots and clueless in others.
Sorry, you'll have to point out where I started supporting Trump. Or do you think that because I disagree with your ridiculous line of reasoning I must be a supporter?
get out of here Joe
You are also almost certainly a closet, or thoroughly accomplished homosexual user.
I think four chan needs to read jordan petersons new book again
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I was talking more about you supporting hitler user. We used to shoot people like you as collaborators. Feel free to state that you don't support hitler or nazi ideology and have no problem with jewish people.
Oh, so you were talking about something else that never happened in place of an actual argument.
Kurds are NOT Muslims stupid, that debunked your whole argument in one statement.
Didn't hear you state that you don't support hitler and nazi ideology and have no problem with jewish people or black people. Go ahead and post if you want to be taken seriously.
It would make no difference if it were muslims anyway when it comes to people who fight for the western nations against enemies.
Kurds are not Arabs, mostly not Muslim and is the last strongly Christian group in the middle east since Bush W fuck up the Middle East.
Well at least you got Socialism and nonsensical bullshit in the same paragraph.
Stopped right there
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Obama's administration doubled the national debt. Fucking retard.
Be real careful as to which one you choose.
Honestly? Have you seen some of their mothers ?
I know people like to use this general statement as proof of something but it hides a whole shit load considerations that I am sure you would not further your narrative.
I guess you forget the other stuff because the knee-jerk reactions you want from Sup Forums of all people would be lost in the important details that lie behind your statement.
But have st it sport if it makes you feel good.
Why don't you tell us how Obama created ISIS or that windmills give you cancer.