Daily Japanese Thread - DJT #1921

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Discuss the process of learning Japanese.

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it's halloween

is there a way to turn this theme shit off?

Why aren't you taking advantage of the opportunity that you have? You have an opportunity right now that you will probably never have again. A lot of NEETs are acting like they're going to be NEETs for the rest of their life and they're studying Japanese at a leisurely pace, but you probably won't be a NEET in a few years from now.

You have to grind hard now and get everything you can get out of these years of having no responsibilities or obligations to take up your study time. What's worse than not learning Japanese is having this opportunity of a lifetime of being a NEET and then still not learning Japanese because you wasted your NEET years by taking it easy. That's far worse. At least normal people can say that their work hours took away their study time and that's why they never learned Japanese. NEETs can't say that, you have all of the time in the world right now.

You should be studying at least three times as long as the average normal and employed person. There's no excuse for anything less and if you do less than that then you're going to hate yourself when this opportunity is no longer here.

Why do you assume that every poster here is a NEET?

yea haha, what a ridiculous assumption

I presumed that in this thread only one Canada poster reside who are ruthlessly lashing other anons with long comment.
In other word, I've thought you two were one person.

出来ない

I'm pretty sure there are at least 3 regular Canadian posters here.

よし、カナダアノンども、
お前ら全員日本語で何か喋ってみろ

そうだなー
よし、じゃあそこのメガネのお前から

これはペンです。

アメリカは立たなくていいッ!
ほらそこのメガネのカナダ!お前だ!

カナダ人がメガネを持ってるのをなぜ分かる??

あいつのコメントが歪んでっからだよ!

Just gonna bump the thread before going to sleep right after an Anki session.

There's a drop-down menu at the bottom of the thread. Style: "Yotsuba B"

おやすみ

ほらほら英語でコソコソ喋ってないで日本語日本語!
全員立って日本語で喋れ!ハイそこのドイツとアメリカ!お前ら二人で会話して!

兄貴の前で会話みたいないやらしいことなんてできないっす!

俺に何も思いついてこないけど。。。ええと、いい天気ですよね

何がいやらしいだ今更てめえ!
さっきっからケモノみてえな目をしやがってコノヤロウ!
お前ドイツのコメントチラチラ見てただろうが前スレから!

おうそうだよ!
もっとこう、二人で、ケモノみてえに絡みあうんだよ!!

>understand the contents of a piece of Japanese text
>still confused about the meaning or it seems really bizarre
Why?

見るだろう普通!というか目逸らせないっすよ!でもいきなり会話なんてどう見ても早すぎっすよ!せめて手つなぎとかキスとかそういう簡単なことで始めさせてくれ!

ドイツの天気って今どう?というか、今何時?6時とかそのくらい?そっちも寒くなってきた?

>見るだろう普通!というか目逸らせないっすよ!
おいおいおい相当な好きものだなこりゃあ…
とんだメリケンアノンちゃんだぜ…

よし!俺はもう寝るから、お前ら俺が起きるまでそうやって会話してるんだぞ!
時々小便ついでに見に来るからな!
お休み!

おやすみなさい、兄貴!いつも俺らの面倒を見てくれてあざっす!

出来なさは精神的な問題なので、できない人間は自分自身に信じなければ行けいない

ちょっと変質者っぽいな感じを発されてるんだ。。。キモイ

実に言うと、天気は寒くて一日中クソなんだけど
あんたの居場所は

夜中と朝は寒すぎてベッドから出る気が全くないんだ。幸い、昼間はまあまあ、寒くないで中々いい感じだから、そっちの方が大変そうだな。

そっちはもう雪降ってる?

Try thinking about it out of the box, like how you have to think out of the box to know "out of the box" means to not take it at face value or completely literally or whatever.

そっちはもう雪降ってる?
それはまだでよかった

hm, can you phrase it like that?

冬はこれから始まるんで、がんばれ。春は後たった5か月だぞ!

I'm not sure, maybe ありがたい instead of よかった, but I have no idea how proper Japanese it would be anyways. Help us, aniki.

Why can I not find this 加疲弁 anywhere?

似てねえか?
David Beckham and Takizawa Hideaki ,Johnny’s star.

こっちだった
これ見づらくね?

似てるふたり
David Beckham and Takizawa Hideaki ,Johnny’s star.

yeah, no

似てるというは大袈裟かもしれないんだと思うけど、二人の顔の骨組みを対比してみると適合店が多くような気がし始める

そうなんだよ骨格が似てる
takizawaが金髪にすればもっと似る

I'm at work ten hours a day, go to the gym and run a household, and I still find about two hours in a day to study Japanese. When you only sleep six hours and get up at 4am, you find you have a lot of time on your hands to get stuff done.

ハロウィーン絵を交換しましょうね、みんな!

>When you only sleep six hours and get up at 4am
絶対無理

ハロウインって日本のお盆に似てる
お盆は「地獄の釜の蓋があいて幽霊たちが
出てくる期間」だから
Obon is a Buddhist festival held to welcome back the spirits of the dead

>been planning trip to Japan for last 6 mouths for my birthday in November
>will be staying in one of them tube hotels for 3 weeks in Tokyo
>speak no Japanese, only memorized how to say shit like "I dont speak Japanese", "I enjoy pussy" and "English, do you speak it?"
>going by myself
>don't know anyone there
>plan on getting wasted half the time I'm there
>I leave tomorrow morning
How fucked am I? Any advice? What are some really nice /out/ spots close to Tokyo?

Anyone?

Do Michel Thomas Japanese. It should take you two weeks to do the Foundation and Advanced courses. Don't fool yourself into thinking this will teach you Japanese. It'll give you an usable enough grasp on the language for a tourist trip, though.

You may want to ask the other Japanese thread here or the travel board for the latter half of your question.

I feel like this will become a great greentext story like the one with some guy silently chewing potato chips on the shitter

"Increase exhaustion valve". I don't know what that would involve. Maybe it was modeled by non-Japanese trying to write 加速弁?

この「こと」の使い方ときとして見ることがあるんですけど意味はまだ不明なんですけど
説明してくれませんか

>will be staying in one of them tube hotels for 3 weeks in Tokyo
Why would anybody do this to themselves?

For the same reason europeans go to africa to make mud bricks. It is quaint to pay to experience the suffering of others.

kek
Because I'm a poor fag with a love for cylinders. It's 15 dollars a day.

is there a Japanese equivalent of libgen?
or any place where can I find textbooks in Japanese

バンプ

NEVER GIVE UP!!!
NEVER SURRENDER!!!

>女の子が「かい」や「だい」という

words I've written down today, no bully

What if someone needs 9-11 hours of sleep and cannot concentrate well enough if he has slept too little?

is that hammerfall reference?

clean up your diet
try intermittent fasting
avoid blue light before bed
avoid food 2 hours before bed
seriously, no human needs that much sleep
if you add the hours up you're wasting years of your life
unless you're spending them having lucid dreams or some shit

>What if someone needs 9-11 hours of sleep
What if pigs had wings

What a beautiful poem you've written!

I sleep at least 9 hours a day and fasting gives me gastrointestinal ulcers, so I feel that user.

Assess your priorities, try to find the bare minimum of daily study you can do and stick to doing it. Assiduity > Quantity.

most people probably sleep 7-8 hours, 9-11 hours sounds like some condition

Drink a shitload of water before you go to bed.

You're probably going to sleep before you're tired. You should be able to fall asleep within a few minutes of laying down. If you can't, you're not ready to sleep and you'll fuck up your rhythm by trying to do so.

supermemo.com/en/articles/sleep

>You should be able to fall asleep within a few minutes of laying down.
I can stay up for in excess of 24 hours and it will still take me a minimum of 1 hour to fall asleep.

you'd better be careful or you'll end up like these guys
youtube.com/watch?v=x0lwtWU-B-0

How many Kanjis did you practice a day to be able to write enough for that?

Dude hasn't the time to do a few Anki reps, do you thing he'll have time to read The Lord of the Pillows saga?

You're awesome, user, but your handwriting really sets off my autism.

I can't understand what she's trying to say here. Something like, "It's not preferable for me to just be alive". "That was the unchanging morning." And then what is カイル?

>your handwriting really sets off my autism.
yea it usually triggers people

I'm not sure what you mean 2bh
those are just new words I came across today

>those are just new words I came across today
So do you just learn how to write new kanji as you learn new words then?

I did RTK, but I've developed the habit of always writing down words I don't know even when I've probably written them down before
but I don't review them often enough, so I started making an Anki deck from my vocab books, but it takes forever

According to a web dictionary,

事とする(こととする)

他動詞 To deal in (politics); to devote oneself to (something); to make it one's business (to do something)

for example

教師たるものはこっけいのみを事とするべからず
A teacher should not "deal in" humour alone.

結衣ちゃんの穴に入りたい
日本語スレの焔の拳姫かな?
青空文庫くらいかな
aozora.gr.jp/
生きているだけマシじゃない
It is better to live still than to die.
そう、それはいつもと変わらない朝だったわ
Well,that morning was the same as always
私はカイルに
I talked to Kyle･･･

.

it's more like that morning was not different from the usual

>Well,that morning was the same as always
This is more like a puzzle to try to solve than a language. Thanks for the help.

>私はカイルに
wよくあることね

thanks m8

銀河英雄伝説LGHやな
「一時的な破壊をこととする」=「一時的な破壊を目的とする」:
it would be aimed for temporary destruction
一時的な破壊をこととするのならともかく
if it is not for the purpose of temporary destruction
つまり「目的」や「意図」という意味
ついでにの説明や例文は「没頭する」ということであり、ほぼ説明としては間違い
難しいのは、「一時的な破壊をことにする」との意味の違い
これは「一時的な破壊を決定する」という意味になる
ex:
「故郷に帰ることとする」(故郷に帰る予定である)
cf:
「故郷に帰ることにする」(故郷に帰ることに決定した)
銀英伝を頑張って読んでね
日本語スレにもおいで

user I had that exact condition for the longest time. Then I got some meds that raised my blood pressure to normal levels. Now I have a regular sleep cycle.

いいじゃん、別に!面白いし

This interests me... please, go into detail.

When you do not sleep at night, you should take a nap during class.
Particularly in Japanese class, you can do well.
Happy Hallowe'en
How long will this fap time of Sup Forums last?

Come to Japanese Thread

バケツに水を汲んできてください
Go draw water from the bucket and come here(location of speaker)

バケツに水を汲んでください
Go draw water from the bucket

Am I doing this right?

Nope

>自分の性行為の腕が悪いと落ちこんだものだが――いや、事実として上手くなかったのだろう。
What does 腕が悪いと落ちこんだ mean here? I get what 腕が悪い means here but I don't know what と落ちこんだ is doing after.

Looks like 落ち込む to me.

Any elaboration would help. I have read the maggie sensei blog post on it and I need clarification.

They are both about filling a bucket with water, not getting water from a bucket

Ah I get it. Your interpretation was actually what I thought about first but I was excepting a de instead of a ni. But I can see now why ni makes sense here. Anyway my question is actually about the tekuru form.

I think と落ちこんだ(と+落ちこむ) is "to get bummed out" [over the fact that 自分の性行為の腕が悪い]

I initially thought that too, but the conjunction いや、事実として seems weird in this case "~but in truth, I probably was just clumsy."

you are like a little baby
watch this

>watching my mature annie mae show for mature viewers like myself
>機雷
>huh, that's new
>google
>機雷原 and 掃海 huh
>and 掃海艇 is a minesweeper, yeah that makes sense
>wait what was greek for minesweeper? ναρkαλιευτής?
>better double check
>turns out ναρkαλιευτής is the person that sweeps for mines
>greek for 掃海艇 would be «ναρkαλιευτιkό (πλοίο)» I guess...
>what's english for ναρkαλιευτής then?
>miner? "sapper"? what
>and jp for that is... 工兵? whatever
>地雷処理戦車...
>okay, i was hoping there'd be a 2-kanji word analogous to 掃海 for land mines but i'll take 地雷処理
>wait, what's a 機雷掃討艇 and how does it differ from a 掃海艇???
>wait, minesweeping is just detecting mines, 掃海 is actually detecting AND "demining"?
>what was greek for 機雷 anyway?
>«νάρkη θαλάσσης» or «θαλάσσια νάρkη» or «ναυτιkή νάρkη»... not sure I ever heard that last one before
>wait, what's greek for 機雷原 then?
>«θαλάσσιο ναρkοπέδιο» or «ναρkοβριθής θάλασσα» (who the fuck even says ναρkοβριθής) or «θάλασσα ναρkών» or «θαλάσσιο πεδίο ναρkών»
>«θαλάσσιο πεδίο ναρkών» is apparently the grammatically acceptable way to say 機雷原 but the article making that claim is titled «θαλάσσιο ναρkοπέδιο»??? why???
>ANIME

SUCC

バケツに水を汲んできてください
Please get me a bucket of water / Please bring me a bucket of water
バケツに水を汲んでください
Please fill a bucket with water

you see?
腕が悪いと落ちこんだ
I was discouraged because I had poor technique of the sexual intercourse
in this case, 腕 means technique
ex
腕がいいことを「上手」悪いことを「下手」という

If you want to learn Japanese more, come to JT

>いや、事実として上手くなかったのだろう。
I think this might mean "actually, it was probably _awful_", with 事実として being something like "speaking faithfully". It seems to me like the speaker is reassessing the initial statement.

your words reached my soul leaf, i shall do so.

So 上手くなかった is just a stronger statement, if anything? They seem similiar otherwise, but it makes sense if we're interpreting 事実として as that.

>自分の性行為の腕が悪いと落ちこんだものだが――いや、事実として上手くなかったのだろう。
I was often discouraged because I had poor technique of the sexual intercourse ―― actually, my technique was poor as a fact.

何がわからないのかわからんよ

落ち込んだ:I was discouraged
事実として:as a fact.
「悪いと落ちこんだ」の「と」は「引用の格助詞」そのもので
「落ち込んだ」ことの内容を示しているだけ
つまり、contextから落ち込んだ「原因」となる

actuallyというのは正解
Sup Forumsのmemeでt.b.hというのは、僕は「ぶっちゃけ」と訳しているが
この場合の「事実として」は、そういう感じ
a stronger statementというより自己確認
my technique was poor t.b.h
ということ

日本語スレにおいで
ブラジル旗のSpammerは、じきに消される

Thank you. That is a lot more clear now.

So I don't plan on writing anything until I'm somewhat proficient in speaking and reading, but is stroke order really that important for me? I'm kind of impatient right now and just want to be an ankidrone already and start grinding away on tae kim grammar/reading/core 2k.
Also is yotsuba good to start out with or should I opt for a visual novel instead as my first ever reading exercise? Are doujins good for this as well?