Is there any point of being moral? Is there any point of being a "good" person?

Is there any point of being moral? Is there any point of being a "good" person?

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,,good" and ,,bad" is a social construct.

the word "moral" comes from the word "more" which means "to fit in". if you don't fit in, it will stand out. do that at your own risk.

nah

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social benefit == people like you more and are less likely to assholes

just like gender

To a point yes, however like all things I believe that there is a objective morality. It is bigger then we can fathom but it’s there, and I dare say you cannot quantify it with mathematics and by proxy silly little carts. Just my 0.02$

That depends on what you prioritize in life.

We had this discussion in my Phil 101 class over the summer. My standpoint is that some people don't give a damn about being 'good' or 'bad.' If you weren't born with a conscience that'll make you feel guilty for doing ill to those around you, so be it. Just know that evolutionarily, subverting the human facet of being a 'good' person simply because you """can""" goes against the very natural instincts and qualities you inherited that allowed our species to even make it so far as for you to be born.

Choosing to be a plague on the world because "there's no point in not doing so" is fucking stupid. Humans are rational creatures. By that very fact, you should be 'good' because doing so has historically proven to aid in one's survival and satisfaction in life.

Or you could just be an asshole behind closed doors who puts on a friendly smile in public. We got millions of those in the world.

short answer: no

the only relevant purpose of being good is to have others treat you with the same respect you show them, but it would be idiotic to assume others will always treat you with respect just because you show them respect, so no, there's no point

>you should be 'good' because doing so has historically proven to aid in one's survival and satisfaction in life.

you speak of being good in the well-behaved sense, not morally good. people confuse the two concepts all the time.

A lot of psueds itt.

Here's my take:
Live it out. Is there a point? Live out good then live out bad. Which one is sustainable?

All these fucking jackasses forget that we're hardwired to be good to one another, but we fuck up sometimes and it makes us question whether or not being good is worthwhile.

Is it? Well, yes if you think that establishing healthy and happy relationships are worth it. No if you don't.

Paragon tends to pay off more in the long run than Renegade

Wrong. It can also inspire others to be nice to others. Morality has both direct and indirect benefits.

There is very arguably an objective set of core ethics that matter independently of social norms, look into Utilitarianism.

However, morals such as "Don't fuck your sister" or "don't let your dog fuck your hairy ass" aren't valid, it comes down to the most good at the least expense. If these acts bring joy and no detriment to both parties involved, ethics actually dictates that you *should*, but only if it provides more good than harm.

As a rule of thumb, I find it is usually wise to select the option you do *not* favor when unsure about which choice to make, as the brain likes to deceive and perform mental gymnastics to get its way.

If we're talking about being 'good' in the sense that you should do the """right""" moral thing even when you have nothing to gain out of doing so, that's completely up to the individual. Like said, if you feel that living one lifestyle is naturally more sustainable to you over the other, go for it. But remember that actions are subject to reactions. Those can also be good or bad (and not the moral kind).

Yes. For the glory of God.

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Yeah but only with family/REALLY close friends
Anything else can get fucked

If I find a wallet with 200 bucks and ID card inside it I'm throwing away the wallet and taking the money. Is that being a "bad" person?

So I assume you're a pedophile and a murderer, correct? If morality is a social construct what's keeping you from engaging in said behavior?

Being nice makes for a better environment to live in. When everyone acts like selfish cunts you get America. When people adhere to norms of politeness and mutual respect you get nice places like Scandinavia and Canada and Japan.

yes there is a good reason to strive for goodness,
your not a fucking chimp and other people exist in the this god forsake planet so dont be a cunt you fart

yes

but it's ok. as long as your not on camera literally stealing from someone which is what you describe..

you can be charged for this.

obviously society?

>If I find a wallet with 200 bucks and ID card inside it I'm throwing away the wallet and taking the money. Is that being a "bad" person?
That's a wrong thing to do, so yeah, you worthless fucking scumbag. How would you feel if someone did that to you?

you were right up until you went full ameritard.

first 10 words were relevant, everthing else is showing youre the same as those you hate.

bet he avoids the answer i give 2/1 odds

>"if i lose my wallet i deserve to have my money taken"

>>The USA lands on the Moon
>>The other countries mentioned have declining birth rates and will drive themselves extinct

Gee I wonder who wins there

Excuses, it can happen to everybody. And that's not your problem either way, judging by your thought process, I can see that you'd be willing to scam people eye to eye.

Hes agreeing with you and saying the first guy will give a shitty excuse like that. Get some fucking reading comprehension double nigger

Yes there is.
It is based in the meaning of morality, which is based in the meaning of everything. I recommend Thomas Aquinas's Summa Theologica for the arguments regarding the meaning of everything.

(Where you derive meaning has a natural theological nature. For without theology, there is no way to get an ought from an is)

quit talking like a pompous retard. you're on Sup Forums

>bet he avoids the answer i give 2/1 odds

>"if i lose my wallet i deserve to have my money taken"

Nah, that's not how i think. Every person thinks different, hence I'd hope that they don't keep the money and return it to me.

It depends on your culture numbnuts. Is there a point in being literate? In what language? In what culture is it worth it to be moral?

If you are born into a shitty culture- like I was- then there is not point in being moral. In my original culture, sex is practically prohibited but you are "allowed" to beat the silly shit out your wife if you find her cheating. Heavy Catholic influence as you might have guessed it. To this day, the culture is falling apart and the most Catholic countries in the world are the worst in the world. Africa is worst in terms of poverty, but Catholic- Phillipines and Catholic-Latin America produce real life Horror every day to the point of making Quentin Tarantino humanistic and decent.

So is there any point to adhering to bad morals? What do you think?

Is it a good idea to be conniving, deceitful untrustworthy, violent, lazy and undisciplined? What do you think.

Refer to "the republic", good read, get redpilled

You're showing obvious sociopathic/narcissistic tendencies. Get help, this is not a joke.

There is one moral. In some circles(or as you would call it "cultures") morality is the norm, but in some being immoral is more socially accepted.
Don't get "the norm" mixed up with morality-- that is an assertion that morality is subjective, and it is not.

i believe nature to be the one true standard of morality. any deviation does not lift us higher or make us any better.

Yes.
The good way to act is the way that, if everyone did it, would work forever. That is to say, taking the wallet of those who loses it, and having that attitude toward others(Namely, that it's a dog eat dog world and I /wont/ help out when I have the chance, but take what I can get) is not the sustainable way to act.

Do you know for sure if you died today, you'd go to heaven anons?

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thanks user. im never helping retards again

but you think this person deserves to have their money taken?

so its just pure opportunistic crime like a common nigger? I thought you were better than that, a criminal but still better than that

no im saying its not ok to scam/ take advantage those with bad luck or cursed with stupidity like yourself

It is a functional system. Normally, morality is its own point. Rarely, being moral nets you enormous gains.

>me 2019 "we should not be talking about going to the moon"
>also me 2019 "we're gonna defeat socialism and put a man on the face of the moon"

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Lol this

>find a wallet with 200 bucks and ID card inside it I'm throwing away the wallet and taking the money. Is that being a "bad" person?

What is this called?: I find the wallet, contact the owner. I let him know I found 200 in it. I then nig my way into taking like $60 as my "reward" but subtly hint it's not an option if you want it back at all

Thoughts

To be truly moral or to appear as such
Looking moral is the key to geting far in social circles hence virtue signaling
Or one may pursue personal development for their own gratification
Worths subjective

Good isn't something you are. Good is something you do.

Basically, with the right verbiage and positioning, I'll profit from the loss- but still look like "a good guy" for bringing it back and making contact.

"He definitely deserved something for his trouble!" They would say

Racketeering or extortion

If you have no morals your playing life on easy mode

>Don't be a pussy

But then I donated that $60 to a homeless man

how about just expect yourself to be a good person and hope that others are too.

they of course aren't all good, but that shouldnt affect your own discipline in conducting your affairs.

Be honest, work smart and dont nig money

accessory and potentially conspiracy if it goes further

Then you have to live in the woods and get to shooting arrows with the others fags that live out there. Small John or whatever.

It's still better to give people the benefit of the doubt. Social trust is the most valuable commodity in any soceity, that is why mass immigration is bad.