What is Sup Forums's honest political leaning

What is Sup Forums's honest political leaning.

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any adult with good ideas

Libertarian i guess I'm not into politics

Muslim

Have you tried reading about propertarianism? it's similar but has a grasp of taxes and law.

So, fundamentalism?

No right or left lean?

Left on most issues except immigration. I say build the wall and keep out all the faggots not lucky enough to either be born here or rich enough to contribute financially.

What about gun control?

I'm a socialist/Trotskyist I believe in %100 equality for men and women of any race and that the working class should make the decisions rather than the billionaires in the government. I am a staunch supporter of Bernie Sanders

Fascism

IRL, right-leaning libertarian. Don't fuck with me and I won't fuck with you is my basic philosophy. But when I'm on an anonymous image board I'm inclined to larp as any number of things depending on my mood.

even on means of production? So If I make a bracelet I can't sell it and it belongs to the community? Just asking, not trying to start an argument.

centrist fencesitter

left or right wing, does it involve race or nationality?

Sup Forums doesn't have a uniform political leaning, it's literally infested with every ideology.
I'm a democrat and an imperialist that believes in pan humanism.

is taxation theft or are you more like Curt Doolittle?

Like Tim Poole or literally middle ground?

I know that which is why I asked....I figured if people felt strongly enough they would respond.

How can you assume we all have the same goal?

I mean I like using ARs and shit at gun ranges and I own a hang gun for home protection. But I can’t think of any reason people should own ARs. I honestly don’t know a solution to the problem though, there’s too many and it’s not like you can’t actually take them all back.

Fascism is always far-right, if it isn't then its not a Fascism and because i know about ((())) it indeed involve race but rather than Hitler's wish do domimate world i just want to protect my people from degeneracy, foregin hordes, and ((())). Not that Hitler was wrong about most issues anyways

Well, it is just a varmint round. So what about better mental health treatment and armed people in gun free zones like schools and shit?

Well I'd like to think of myself as a middle grounder but if somebody else were to look at my politics they might disagree

((()))? So just nationalism and conservative values possibly Christian based?

I believe all humans with healthy mind have a goal of self preservation. I want Earth united as soon as possible and if democracy needs to be put aside for that goal to be accomplished so be it. We have literally gave up on the most important danger to the human race so that we can bicker about politcs. We kil each other as tomorrow we could be destroyed by fucking meteorites of all thiings.

have you taken the 8 values test or political compass?

What if I believe that a meteorite is my fate and am also anti globalist? Self preservation is true in all animals until they become parents.

I think mental health is important too. And honestly if it wasn’t a problem I obviously wouldn’t give a shit, and if it was even being attempted to be fixed I wouldn’t give a shit. But the fact that the right just blatantly disregards people dying on a daily basis makes me want to lean towards a ban.

Nah, but might give it a try sometime

Authoritarian Socialist?

I don't really give a shit, nor should I? The majority of people wishes not to die, I don't give a shit about you, and your opinion really. I don't want to die and I will seek the most effective way to combat that, as I said democracy can be set aside and I do not mind trampling on your rights if it is in my own self defense. That's why I'm an imperialist.

I do not believe in planned economy.

I'm right wing and think it's a problem but we shouldn't punish everyone for the crimes of a minority of lunatics. I think better checks, mental health treatments and gun safety awareness would help but think a ban would lead us down the road to tyranny.

Anything that is for the betterment of the human condition and agaisnt its vices.

I'm a spiritual person thats for sure, but rather than religion i care more about culture, and anything is better than liberal humanist sjw "culture", that originated from ((()))

So you want a totalitarian ruler in a socialist society with anarcho-capitalism?

> mental health treatment
>gun safety awareness
And who exactly is going to foot the bill for this. We cant even get people to agree on universal healthcare and now you want to add holistic care to the picture. Good luck.

Ok, gotcha. What of the economy?

Only not left because if a country doesn't play by the rule you automatically need to focus on own national interests, otherwise others will benefit from you

>humanist
So you're agaisnt the idea of a society for people

Public services need to be paid for somehow. Emergency services, military, roads etc. I've never understood that "taxation is theft" bit. Do you drive? Are you counting on the fire department to rescue you and the military/law enforcement to keep things secure and under control? Then you have to pay something.

Mixed. Typical for Fascism

The end goal wouldn't be totalitariansim, but if it serves a purpose on a road to unification, I don't mind it. And also I don't see anything socialist in treating all human beings on the same level hence panhumanism, be it asian, white, or black all under the same roof with one nationality that surpasses all others and that being human. The end goal would be a democracy but if I need a dictator with a goal of unifying the world then I'm fine with it, as he would share my dislike of dying. Over time he would be replaced as huamanity would most likely overthrow him. I simply do not see us achieving anything disjointed, I'm willing to sacrifice short term pleasnatries for long term benefit.

Dont feed the idiot more questions. Libertarians know little in the way of what their taxes do or how the government puts them to work. They like to see in black in white and any form of tax will always be theft in their eyes.

Pacifist Anarchist. Fuck the statist paradigm.

You might be right, it might work. I think it would cut down on a lot of it, and it would definitely be a lot easier to implement.

Eh center right. Every political test I've taken roughly aligns with center right. I'm just a libertarian who wants to be left alone

And as soon as the central authority figure is gone, power is decentralized and new states emerge, hence the end of an empire. Do you history bro?

So you're the first to die in a stateless world.

everything and nothing, ironically and unironically.

no one said holistic. Gun safety can start at home. I also learned it in R.O.T.C. It wouldn't take much to have police volunteers come and tell teens how to properly unload a gun and to use trigger discipline. My economic solution to affording mental health treatment would include cutting foreign aid, taxing churches, swifter death penalties for severe crimes and less mandatory minimum sentencing to save money there, taxing marijuana, Not using our soldiers to police the world and when the military is bolstered enough here I would cut some funding back except for troop payments and maintenance.

Not with time no, and not if the ideals are ingrained in society over time. Unification needs to happen. As things stand honestly we need an external threat for such a thing to happen. But we have solutions even now, a state system akin to the USA would probably work. Hence my support of the EU, I actually want unified europe.

you sound like a propertarian then.

mild protectionist tendencies with free trade industries. Ok Is it an ethnostate?

>any form of tax will always be theft in their eyes
That's funny I could have sworn I said the exact opposite of that in the very post you're quoting

>can start at home
So what are we doing now then user? How would you make the government forcefully teach its citizens about arms? In what non tyrannical approach could you force people to learn about them

>taxing churches
Yeah like you would ever get half the country to vote for that

Basically what I'm mostly saying is, we have resources, I want all human reasources to pull together, we could achieve so much by working together, all country. Yet we squander it.
Both commmunism and capitalism wastes so much reasources. We could feed the entire globe, pulling all taxes together we could essentially make food ''free''. I know there is no such thing, but paying few cents for food is better than having none in one part of the world while the other part feasts.

I'm a moderate conservative, moderate because I can see the value in some liberal ideas. I think Trump is a great president but I don't think Hillary would've been a total disaster.

food isn't that important dude

Maybe, I never heard the term before

it seems it would have to be extreme socialism to achieve the unification and to execute all of the rebels. Having one culture would help almost like a communist nation but global. I also have noticed many panhumanists are usually socialists or fascist and you said democratic tendencies...So an assumption. sorry if I offend.

Then what you are advocating for is nothing short of the same thing trotskyist tried to feed ti the masses. Full of platitudes and no action.

What you're best approach should have been was a democratic form of socialism in which people elect politicians to solve these issues. Giving anyone enough power to do whatever they wish will always end in despotism, the likes of which Republicans like to cry about when dems say people shouldnt go broke because of medical bills.

kek.

Neither socialism or trotskysim have anything to do with equality, they only sell themselves as that.

Just consider the fact that any society has different jobs that need to be done, and everyone can not be the dear leader. Also, everyone can not be treated like the leader. They can not have the same power as the leader, they can not live in the biggest mansion, avoid labor, control who gets what and when and where etc. Equality in job assignment is impossible.

Under capitalism everyone has equal opportunity to compete for the best jobs, the best wife, the best house, the best everything. Eventually some people end up with more than others and Commie scum use that to convince retards that the system must be unfair because of inequality.

How has he been great

>equal opportunity
Yes so your nigger from the projects has the exact same chances as Bill Gates daughter eh?

Which strand of socialism? Trotskyist was well aware of job discrepancies but in principle, he was hoping to abolish classes.

Everything is property and to impede on others is a form of theft or property damage. things like infrastructure are shared property and using it without paying taxes is a form of theft. Politicians promising something and not delivering is a form of theft, hurting someone, property damage. hopping the border, theft. Fake news and lying, property damage.
It has a lot of nuances and constitutional writings. Look it up if it sounds cool.

good economy, TRYING to build wall, better trade deals, tax cuts on small businesses, prison and judicial reform, hot wife...

Well I think he means like in a public school, if you have money and can afford tutors and private schools no one should be able to impede on that.
But nothing restricts you from developing the means of production or to patent an idea and make good money in a free market.

Jay-Z was a nigger from the projects so....

Seems bleak.

See, we can find common ground here and listen to ideas. This thread isn't an echochamber.

The nigger in the project was not put there by government. Bill gate's daughter was given all her shit by her father.

You can't claim that it is fair or right to take away people's ability to improve the lives of their kids. In that kind of world no one would ever strive to achieve anything. You would reduce everyone to the lowest common denominator. We would all be living in the ghetto.

Equal opportunity refers to laws, and frankly they are heavily biased towards minorities already and they still can't compete. More affirmative action will not change racial differences, and denial is making progress impossible.

>good economy
Literally every president besides a select few have left office with a bigger economy than their predecessor. A great economy is nothing to brag about, it's the norm.
>the wall
Yes spend more m ok ney on a wall that will have little impact on illigal immigration considering most fly in.
>Tax cuts
Specifically for wealthy people and packaged as a middle class tax cut just to be more deceptive
>P&JR
One thing I can agree with him on
>hit wife
Bought

what of taxation?

You can't abolish classes when class structure is strongly defined by job type. There will always be doctors and garbage men. You can't get rid of that.

Right-Anarchism

Yes as if those things werent locked behind paywalls themselves. This isnt the 1800s where people made livings off of inventing things like inventing thinks like coat hangers. This is the age of technology and industry where practically anything requires some form of degree and investments.

You have a test, because I don't have an idea?

fascism is always far right

>founding philosophers of Fascism all list Marx as an influence
>Mussolini spent over a decade as the head of the italian socialist party

whatever keeps you thinking majority rules genius

It's a necessary evil that you pay into, like rent for the government. Normally I'd just want to left alone and only give the government enough to just function. But I am aware there are assholes out there and we need a military, or basic communal goods (roads, firefighters etc)
Also inb4
>hurr prior to the 30s

Who made his fill by selling crack, then rapping, hooking up with ye, and only once he had made his money, could he invest. One hell of a success story but only one winner amongst millions who tried to make it with no luck. Rich people dont have this problem.

Moderate - left

Left, fuck the Right Wing coz im poor af

I didn't say everyone would agree on taxing churches. But what's to stop me from saying my house is now a church?
Having a person come and talk to teens about gun safety isn't totalitarian. I had to take D.A.R.E. classes in school. It should also be the responsibility of a gun owner to teach their kids. That should be a no brainer but many don't.

No, equal opportunity means your choices arent limited by your means. Its not my fault you view a system skewed towards old money as a just one when it's real life implications literally leave millions poor and a few wastrals at the top.

But there will also always be a need for both, and by artificially controlling that supply, you can elevate positions as needed and remove classes.

Socially liberal. I don't care who you fuck, what drugs you do, etc.
Fiscally conservative. People should not live on three generations of welfare.

My best friend grew up in poverty and now is a project lead at Lockheed-Martin. I was upper middle class and make less than half of him. If you want to succeed then there is nothing restricting you. Even a person with down syndrome can learn art or start a youtube channel and get sponsors. You don't have to sell crack to get famous rapping now you just need an iPhone and creativity.

So minimalistic government, state militias, legalization of certain activities that hurt no one, and taxation falls onto a communal property agreement for infrastructure and varies region to region?

The left typically is the elite and makes more on average.

I dont see elon musk calling his house a church and he has a genuine cult following.
And yes, such classes would be totalitarian in the same way as compulsive school attendance is. Do the program or get fined and sent to jail.

like moderate territory, maybe constitutionalist?

none of this shit matters. Trump's strong point is his honesty. he tells it like it is.

You don't believe in school attendance or mandatory practices? Are you libertarian or anarcho-(fill in the blank)?

That shit matters to parents and business owners.
Hot wife is just a bonus.