Why was this extremely high-quality piece of cinema so overlooked? I'm impressed it even managed an Oscar nomination considering literally nobody has heard of it.
Is it because it absolutely eviscerates American culture and "they" don't want the status quo to change?
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I was really happy to see Viggo nominated too. It's nice seeing him get acknowledgment for all the high quality work he puts in. Really surprised me.
Damn, this film is so overlooked and unknown, it doesn't even support a thread on Sup Forums.
Which is surprising because one could expect it to be a 500 post autismfest about leftist-anti-govenment propaganda, socialism, hippies, being reddit incarnate and other stuff that grinds Sup Forums's gears.
It was a really good movie but they should have chose a different song for the mothers favourite song at the campfire.
Yeah, I was actually thinking the exact same thing. If more people had seen it you just know this thread would be full of people calling it pretentious and whining about hippie bullshit. It's a very political film and that tends to result in huge threads.
It's a shit "indie" film. There have been many better ones. Little Miss Sunshine is miles better
>Which is surprising because one could expect it to be a 500 post autismfest about leftist-anti-govenment propaganda, socialism, hippies, being reddit incarnate
But the message is that this doesn't work and he has ruined the kids
That's your take on it. The only real reason to give them a normal life was to "fit in" with the vapidity that was on display throughout the movie. In my opinion his way of life was clearly superior and was seen as "wrong" solely because it wasn't common. Most of his kids would have been pretty happy to continue as they were.
Your opinion is irrelevant (though i partially agree with you). In the movie the kids had trouble relating to others and as they grew up they managed to see through their father's act.
He turned them into a project while his role should be towards letting them decide for themselves
this and Hunt for the Wilderpeople were my favorite movies of last year
family road trip movies just get to me
It's almost like the film purposely showed the good and bad side of the kids upbringing. With them being physically and mentally superior, but socially awkward and unable to work in a society.
> mentally superior
Haha nope. They were trained monkeys. Only the little dude that tried to rebel was legit
More like Captain Rêddit.
because it wasn't that good, and it's been done better, as pointed out by other anons in this thread.
it was all fun and games until he had the kids shoplift, from that point onwards his whole ethos was shot to shit. nice "morals" faggot.
still liked it though.
>stealing from more fortunate is bad
He DID let them decide for themselves, though. Throughout the movie we constantly saw examples of him allowing them to give their opinions in their own words. There was an interesting moment where his kid complained about Noam Chomsky day and he said "fine then, let's have a discourse. Offer an argument against it." But the kid just walked away angrily because he obviously couldn't come up with anything better than "Ugh it's just wrong, can't you see?"
It's really not a bad way to live. But because it's not "normal" it's seen as "wrong." You can get by in life just fine without having to be a social butterfly. What's so important about being able to talk about video games and shit.
one is a tale about an oppressive king that even history paints as a tyrant.
one is a tale about a commie who doesn't want to pay taxes so he raises his kids in the woods.
Oh boy you are so wrong. He pretended to allow discourse but the psychological climate was that of a dictatorship. Holding a Noam Chomsky day was wrong in the kid's mind because it felt wrong. This isn't (shouldn't be) up to debate.
It ends there.
>He DID let them decide for themselves, though. Throughout the movie we constantly saw examples of him allowing them to give their opinions in their own words. There was an interesting moment where his kid complained about Noam Chomsky day and he said "fine then, let's have a discourse. Offer an argument against it." But the kid just walked away angrily because he obviously couldn't come up with anything better than "Ugh it's just wrong, can't you see?"
if you've ever worked with kids this doesn't actually work
you cant debate kids like adults, they dont have the mental discipline to do it yet, which is why kid just walks away as he well should
plus he'd just get ganged up on with the rest of them already into the holiday
turning 360 degrees and walking away is the ONLY rational choice when you're outnumbed, outgunned because you're only young and can't construct legitimate arguments against your dad who has been feeding your entire family a particular philosophy for your entire lives, and you're also a manlet who wants to get laid
dindu nuffin
>Oh boy you are so wrong. He pretended to allow discourse but the psychological climate was that of a dictatorship.
This.
>an oppressive king that even history paints as a tyrant.
Well that happens to describe the current president of the USA so I don't see what's wrong with Viggo stealing from him.
viggo isnt stealing from a king, he's stealing from a merchant.
It was morally proselytizing pretentious trash that would've been a total write-off if not for Viggo's admittedly excellent performance.
>a merchant.
This, he allowed the kid to question the decision but was in a position of authority and he was surrounded by supporters of him, so he's not exactly being taken aside one on one to challenge his ideas, he's asking him in an environment where everybody disagrees with him. It's a little like being a heckler at a stand up comedy show, the host and the audience are against you.
Reallly good.
People afraid to be redpilled
>leftism is the true redpill
Who'd have thought?
Anyone else notice how much Viggo likes to open double doors?
Quick, check GI Jane
>directed by the gay guy from American Psycho
huh, who could have guessed
i will watch it at some point
It was fantastic, except all the bullshit comunist propaganda
Not that I didn't like it. I think it was pretty good, and Viggo was even great in it. But there's nothing special about it, really. Deserves more credit than all this capeshit of course but I guess people generally are retarded.
I loved it, my favorite film of the year.
It's funny that the title makes it sound like a superhero movie and that still wasn't enough to trick people into seeing it.
HOW DARE A CHARACTER IN A FICTIONAL MOVIE HAVE FLAWS
BOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
I really liked the movie
>Although the politics here is generally not good (indicated by the 1988 Jesse Jackson for president t-shirt that Ben wears at one point)
What does this mean? What's wrong with Jesse Jackson?
Upvoted, this needs to be seen.
Thanks for the gold, kind stranger. Check your PMs.
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>THICCKCK
>turning 360 degrees and walking away
dont you mean 180 degrees?
It was alright. The ending was fucking shit though
Gavin Belson was too busy trying to save Hooli that he didn't have enough time to promote the movie.
I personally think he shouldn't have given up his old lifestyle, but I don't know if that's what you mean.
All these posts and not a single one mentioning Viggo Mortensen's penis. Step it up, guys.
Would have been better if they showed any of the girls' penises.
What is Eastern Promises
The redpill is critically thinking and analyzing things on something other than a surface level. There was that scene where the girl was talking about Lolita and said it was "interesting" or something. Based Viggo shut her down, said that was a bullshit word, and made her explain why it was "interesting."
I didn't watch the movie, but does it make out Viggo to be the hero 100% of the time? Because the trailer made it seem like he was just a quirky genius dad who knows what's best for his 50 kids, and that's raising them in the woods with no medicine and force feeding them his kooky political views. Meanwhile his dead wife's rich dad desperately wants them to not die of dysentery and live in a mansion. And they poke fun at soda for all the yuppies in the audience who will admire Viggo's new age parenting techniques.
>the girls' penises.
H-huh?
Good point. Shame that kinda thing doesn't work on this site (or in most discussions for that matter). If you challenge someone to explain their opinion they'll just be like "Why are you mad I criticized your favorite thing, shill?" or they'll insist you should automatically "know" what they mean.
Hilarious how Hillary cucks hated this film. One review literally started with the triggered piece of shit reviewer imagining how Viggo hated Hillary and moved to the forest because he couldn't stand her
yeah, that was awkward.
this movie was absolute kino. took me out of a depression and made me hate technology.
To be fair, he probably did. Hillary is not a shining example of liberal values, she's just another shitty capitalist.
no, the movie is much more sophisticated than that. viggo's character grows significantly towards the end of the film and his father in law's character is shown to have positive qualities.
>that soundtrack
>that viggo
This film stayed in my mind for weeks, I started doing yoga poses and learning about celestial navigation because I wanted to impress some girl after wasting my only chance...I needed one more chance, ONE MORE FUCKING CHANCE Sup Forums...now she moved to Europe...FUCK
No, it most certainly does not. It's the best kind of film where they address the positives and negatives but leave the final decision about who's "right" up to you.
There's this little featurette I watched after the movie with the director explaining his perspective, and he mentions that people will likely either see Viggo's character as "insane" or "insanely great." Here it is if you want a look:
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I don't understand, what's wrong with that being her favorite song?
>look how much better than you I am! I read russian novels and listen to classical music so I'm the greatest person that ever lived!
Fuck off
t. capeshitter
>grandfather speaks total sense
>is proven right
>somehow still the bad guy
I liked the ending, I wish they'd come to it a little more rationally though. Having him ditch the kids, then the kids find him, then he becomes more moderate because reasons was hard to grasp.
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The grandfather was not "the bad guy." He was never intended to be seen that way.
I think it was to show that she wasn't like the dad, she was a bit of a pleb who adopted his ideologies, perhaps as rebellion against her parents
Yeah I'm reflecting a bit on some of the points in the thread and I can kind of see the angle that both of them are somewhat correct, but I still think the ending should have clarified that a bit better, because the grandfather "beat" the dad in the arguments, and then he only got a happy ending because the kids came back.
Dang that sounds pretty cool! I'll check it out
trips of truth
>because the grandfather "beat" the dad in the arguments
Of course he did. Even if he didn't make sense he could still beat anyone's argument, have you heard his based voice?
What else is this guy in that's good? I want to hear that voice some more.
The Americans
Frost/Nixon was critically praised but I wasn't a fan. Plus he's playing Nixon so you won't get his normal voice.
Frost-Nixon was absolute kino, i loved it and he was great in it
He's so based
It was a more pretentious version of Alaskan Bush People. Both are shit.
fuck off newfag
Oh, the irony.
great movie, one of the best of the year.
robot and frank was a great feel good movie, or at least i seem to remember it that way. it's about him and a robot robbing a place.
One thing I couldn't really get over was what the kids were expected to do for the rest of their lives. If they want to live outside society their only real option was to live in the woods until they died.
Viggo's character seemed more than happy to do that himself. He made a living off selling carvings or something and just chilled in the woods with his kids. I mean, they already had each other, what else did they realistically need?
>calling it pretentious
It was though.
They should have made the main character a white nationalist / survivalist . That would have been more believable. The hippy bullshit was what Hollywood ((( producers))) think is more likable.
>his role should be towards letting them decide for themselves
This is in part due to our "new age" bs that we've been indoctrinated with. The idea that kids should be free to think and choose for themselves, and that parents are basically just there to keep them alive. It's bs perpetuated by the system that seeks to seperate family structures so that the kids listen to the state before they listen to their parents.
>Trumpf is bad
Viggo actually doesn't care if it was Trump or Hillary, or someother Republican/Democrat. He would "steal" from either one, because both parties are corrupt af. He even voted for the third party as a way to show his displeasure with the current political system, and wishes that everyone would do the same.
>it was all fun and games until he had the kids shoplift
It was still fun, for them anyways. They saw the normies as fat and slothful, and deserving of losing a few pounds. Stealing their shit was kind of helping them in a way.
It seems like a life in the woods would get borin for the kids. They keep reading about the whole world in their books but never get to actually see it, surely at least one of them would want to venture out? Also, continuously robbing convenience stores can't sustain them forever.
>comunist
What about it was communist though? Seemed more like an Anarchist themed movie. Was it because his kids read books?
>reading books is Communist
That explains a lot about the anti-Communist mindset.
>B-b-but, muh first female president!
Normies gonna norm user.
Doing things because they think they should, and not because it is the right thing to do.
>surely at least one of them would want to venture out?
Well yes, that's exactly what happened with his oldest son. A key part of the film was that Viggo didn't account for that.
But Vigo gave the message to his kids that it's ok to steal if you can justify it. That it's ok to pretend you're dying in order to commit a crime. It's really dangerous for a father to teach his kids this.
I wonder if any of their kids would have some psychotic disorders passed on from their mother?
Are you suggesting that voting for the equally capitalist Trump was "the right thing to do"?
To retards, ya, they might assume this. The people who don't like to be told to do things they aren't already doing. So if your typical conservative American isn't reading many books, or any, and he/she see's a movie depicting characters reading and it suggests that reading is making them smarter, than said American will probably hate the movie because they themselves don't want/need to believe that it isn't true. They can't stand to think that living a life that isn't their own, could somehow be better. Everything has to be bland and conservative.
Given how much trouble Bo had with socialising in general, like proposing to that trailer park girl, I don't know how he could last a week in college.
Not at all. But when your political system is split between 2 parties, well, lesser of two evils and what not. Or another way to look at it, continuing to do the same thing over and over again expecting different results, is a definition of crazy. So voting for Trump, who is nothing like the previous establishment, could be seen as trying something different.
But the obvious answer would be to not vote at all, or vote for a third party. If enough people did this, than at least it would show and confirm that there are like minded people. Revolutions are more likely if people know they aren't in a minority. So instead of voting for a Rep or Dem because "throwing muh vote away", maybe don't vote/vote for a third party.
Probably the most pretentious movie I've ever seen. My 14-year-old self would've loved it.
bait/10. Have a (You)
Yeah, that's why I voted for Johnson (I later found out my brother and father had done the same so it was nice to see we did it independently of each other).
Unfortunately the majority of the people who voted were retarded as ever and insisted upon the two-party meme.
I bet his books didn't prepare him for this. Poor guy must have thought he's going crazy
Do you think Gary ever found out what Aleppo is?
I think he got too much hate for that moment. It was clear from what he said afterwards that he was well aware of what was going on in Syria and that it was just a slip of the tongue. I know that stuff can happen because it happened to me in school once where I was thinking of a different word and asked "what's an antelope" in front of the whole class even though I knew what an antelope was.