Greetings, Sup Forums, this is the Jungian mystic once again. For a change of pace...

Greetings, Sup Forums, this is the Jungian mystic once again. For a change of pace, I'd like to float a question on the waters and see what comes back to me.

As a mystic who follows the female path, I have avoided monetizing my skills, as exchange in any form is male in nature and I didn't want to confuse my sense of purpose. However, I recently survived a life-threatening health emergency and am struggling financially. I'm wondering whether this is my Tao, a sign that I am supposed to offer my skills and guidance in exchange for money -- or whether this is a test to see whether I have the courage to stand by the female path even if it costs me my life.

Beyond that, there is the ethical consideration of whether I have the right to teach people how to manifest demons, create servitors, visualize internalized worlds, and so on. These are things people can teach themselves at their own pace if they truly want to learn, and giving these skills to someone without the discipline to handle them could destroy their minds and identity.

As usual, I will also offer assistance to the Awake with the Deep Mysteries. If you don't know what the Deep Mysteries are or think they have something to do with the supernatural, then just assume I'm a middle school LARPer and move on.

A gentle reminder, however, that we post here amidst the churn of the Sleepers to hide us in the noise, so that we can be safe to share sacred truths in the open, but it means you will have to have discipline to ignore shitposting.

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Please tell me more about these deep mysteries mystic.

Where can I learn about these deep mysteries?

You already know if you're on the path to Awakening. If you don't, this isn't a thread for you. It's not that it's some big secret I'm refusing to reveal to you, it's that you won't understand. It won't make any sense to you unless you've already seen the bars of the cage.

Broke bitch, get a job

Why don't you just get a job

You already contain teachers. Learn to manifest them. Follow your paradigm the way you'd read a map, knowing you must leave the map and walk the actual territory eventually. Always remember to look at the Moon, not the finger.

I'm trying to awaken myself and seek out what i know is truth but I cant seem to let go of pieces of this 2d world.. Help, advice?

You have a built-in compass which can guide you; if we didn't, there would be no way to know. The term "mysticism" comes from Aristotle, who taught that there are three ways of obtaining knowledge: empiricism, rationalism, and revelation. Using empiricism is science, using rationalism is philosophy, and using revelation is mysticism. Therefore mysticism is the form of knowledge which comes from insight, from listening to that internal voice of truth and knowledge.

What is your paradigm? Do you practice any form of meditation, stillness, gnosis, transubstatiation, etc.?

How mysterious

I want to see the machine elves what do I have to take to see them?

I don't know my paradigm that's the problem, I've only recently started meditating.

Chicken king WHERE ARE YOU!

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Same though, where they at

Well, first you should understand that passing through the golden chrysanthemum doesn't actually require the use of psychoactive substances. There's nothing you can do with a drug that you can't do through meditation, biofeedback, and discipline. This is because psychoactive drugs work by mimicking chemicals which are already present in the brain, and which you can teach yourself to produce.

Drugs are shamanic tools; they're fast and convenient, which is useful when you are responsible for the spiritual health of a whole community and don't always have three days to sweatlodge, fast, and meditate every time you need to talk to Grandfather Toad. However, if you want to see what happens when someone looking for a good time accidentally discovers ego-death without discipline, go on YouTube and search for "salvia freak-outs".

That said, probably the safest and easiest way to visit the machine elves is five grams of psilocybin mushrooms.

Usually, the religion we were raised in has the deepest roots into the unconscious substratum, and is the starting point in terms of paradigms.

The problem you're going to have is the work you need to do is done mostly on an unconscious level. In fact, thinking about it consciously is counter-productive. As a Jungian, the first thing we do is manifest the Anima, since her area of authority is the unconscious, and breaching the barrier between conscious and unconscious is one of her roles.

How far along are you? Do you have a spirit guide? Have you manifested the Anima? Or do you require training in the very first steps, like learning how to manifest an archetype?

Bruh, I don't usually come to Sup Forums but every fucking time I do (like once in 2 or 3 months) I see your posts. I'm starting to think that I should look into this mystical memes but then I remember that I'm a lazy faggot

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This is all extremely perplexing and I need to know more now! Lol I'm only on the beginning of my journey and I'm not sure to manifest a thing yet.

If you flip a coin 100 times and it comes up heads 100 times, that would be extremely significant to you. Yet to the Universe itself, it's no more meaningful than if it came up 50 heads and 50 tails. *We* create meaning, and when the kind of coincidence you describe occurs, it's what Jung referred to as synchronicity. You encounter "coincidence" a hundred times a day, but the fact that *this* is the one you noticed means your unconscious is trying to draw your attention to something important. This is why you should never ignore it when it occurs.

Okay, not a problem. I can teach you how to take the first step. Everything is going to start with a dream journal.

Lucid dreaming is the safest and easiest way to manifest archetypes, and you're going to need to ask the Anima to manifest to act as your guide for further progress. And this is actually quite easy; just wanting it to happen is generally enough suggestion to make it so.

The problem is you're not going to be able to remember your dreams even if you're having them. Dreams are stored in short term memory and disappear within 15 minutes of waking such that you don't even remember ever having remembered them. You're going to have to reporgram your brain to change the way it stores dream memories.

This is simple but time consuming. The brain is plastic. That means it can break old neural connections and make new ones. The more often a neural connection fires, the more stable it becomes. To begin remembering your dreams, you're going to have to keep a dream journal.

From now on, keep a pen or pencil and a notebook by your bed. Begin training yourself to write down your dreams IMMEDIATELY upon awakening, as quickly as you can. Don't delay at all.

Over time, you should begin waking to discover dreams written down which you don't remember writing. At this point you've begun rewiring your brain. Keep going and you'll find that you are now able to remember your dreams long after waking, which will allow you to start using your dreams -- particularly lucid dreams -- to do start your journey.

Interesting thank you so much. What exactly is the anima though?

Where can I read more about Jung and the anima all that stuff, I remember a little bit back in a psychology class in high school and I've always wanted to read more about it

The Anima is one of the most primal and important archetypes. She is your own female nature, the female-in-the-male. The male-in-the-female equivalent is called the Animus.

Remember that male and female are contained in everyone, and in fact the Universe itself contains a male and female nature. They are not linked to genitalia except as a cultural bias; we train those with the seed to associate with the male and those with the womb to associate with the female.

The Anima is our spiritual, emotional, and intuitive nature. Where the Animus is all about drive, ambition, logic, creativity, and transaction, the Anima is about receptivity, intuition, feeling, and passive acceptance. Initially, your Anima is based on your mother, which is why Jung warns that you may need to do extra work to make your Anima more kind and trustworthy if your relationship with your mother was distant and abusive.

The Anima is the element of your personality which is responsible for your own understanding of your female nature, and so it is the part of you which intuitively understands the nature of your unconscious selves. Eventually she is the one who will introduce you to your committee tables of selves. And she is the one who will broker peace with the Shadow and help you come to terms with your own darkness.

>Dreams are stored in short term memory and disappear within 15 minutes of waking such that you don't even remember ever having remembered them
What does it mean if I remember dreams daily without a dream journal?
I forget the “counting sheep” dreams that don’t really have a narrative or really even a setting, but meaningful dreams stick with me to the point that I cannot avoid thinking about them for at least a few days. Some dreams I’ve had are the best experiences I’ve personally witnessed actually.
How do I have more of those dreams?

A good place to start is Jung's "Man and his Symbols," which will give you a good grasp of the terminology he uses. After that, you'll want to move on to his Red Book. This was Jung's personal journal, something he never intended to publish, and describes the way he developed and used his own psychological model to reprogram his brain from the inside out, step by step.

Beyond that I can recommend Julian Jaynes' "Origin of Consciousness in the Breakdown of the Bicameral Mind," Sir Roger Penrose's "The Emperor's New Mind," Sigmund Freud's "Interpretation of Dreams," and Wilhelm Reich's "Character Analysis."

It's not the actual dreams themselves which matter. Freud did an experiment where he had people write down their dreams immediately upon waking, then an hour later, then two hours later, and so on. What he found is that the details of the dream changed each time without people's conscious awareness it was happening. The unconscious altering their memories to make the dreams more and more meaningful by substituting people and events from their own lives into parallels within the dreams.

The ones you find yourself remembering are therefore probably the ones where your unconscious found especially good places for insertion of important and meaningful details.

Our capacity to remember dreams varies from person to person; keeping a dream journal is the surest way to improve your dream retention, whatever your current capacity happens to be.

I don’t really remember the details as much as the feeling or atmosphere, the details are good for triggering that feeling but I can usually just go by the feeling
It feels like home or the feeling of being somewhere beautiful or like that sensation of wonder you had as a child
Frankly the details or narrative seem unimportant
God I wish I could stay there

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What if I told you that you could go there any time you wanted to? The power of visualization is something you develop over time, and is what allows you to manifest archetypal entities and bring them into the waking world. That same visualization can also do the reverse; it can not only move things from the unconscious into the conscious, it's can also move your conscious identity into the realm of the unconscious.

It's like having a Star Trek holodeck inside your head. You can visit internal spaces you normally only encounter in dreams, can explore entire Universes inside your own head. I could spend the rest of my life in a cave or a prison cell and never get bored, as I contain many, many worlds to explore, many lifetimes worth.

But how do I consciously remove myself from the “now”?
I don’t want to be here just as much as I want to be there

You'll have to learn how to split yourself apart. It's why achieving ego-death is so important. When your conscious identity dies and you realize that "you" are still there, suddenly you get that sort of... shift you experience when looking at a Magic Eye picture, where suddenly everything is different and you realize that "you" are not what you thought you were.

When I visit my inner world, I am still also in the outer world. I am more than just a conscious ego-self; I am many selves all at once. I am Legion, I contain multitudes. The more advanced shamanic work only become possible when you've discovered this.

I’ve done that via drugs, the most significant impact was a strange feeling of simultaneous connection and disconnection
I can still revisit that mindset but I don’t see much value in it
Maybe I’m doing it wrong but it hasn’t really helped me
I just want to get out of here

What exactly are you supposed to do when you notice? I notice significance like 50 times a day but dont know how to respond.

It's not a coincidence that you experienced this state with psychedelics; taking the heroic dose and achieving ego-death is the traditional route for experiencing it the first time.

And "wanting to get out of here" is part of the Awakening process. Becoming Awake is the recognition that the material world of physical things is just a thin veneer over the real world, over the deeper reality of the inner sea. The physical world is ruled by the Archons, and their role is act as gatekeepers to keep people on the surface who haven't developed the skills and discipline to sink down and explore the Deep Mysteries.

Introspect. Turn your vision inward and become quiet. Wait for the still, small voice of your discernment to tell you what you're supposed to see. It's intuition; it's like to trying to pass a troublesome fart which never quite squeezes all the way out. You have to stop forcing it, relax, and be patient, allowing it to flow at its own pace.

Is there some way to be less “awake” and escape the material world?
I really don’t want to be, or at not know I am
Awareness is a burden I don’t want anymore

How does it feel to be a virgin mystic instead of a chad magician?

The path to Wisdom, to Chokmah, forces you to pass the Abyss, which is guarded by the demon Choronzon. He's one of the gatekeepers who ensure that nothing impure reaches Oneness in Kether.

Choronzon will catch and rend even the faintest tatter of ego-self. One must shed completely the waking identity on the path of the adept. "Awareness" will come to mean something completely different after you've begun to shed the mask of the ego-self.

Don't worry, this physical place of Samsara is a bardo, a place of torment and transformation. It's *supposed* to hurt. Pain is the lowest value coin the basest metal. It exists so that everyone can gain as much as they need to start the process of transformation to higher spiritual metals.

Feels good, friend.

Other people are bright;
I alone am dark.
Other people are sharper;
I alone am dull.
Other people have a purpose;
I alone don't know.
I drift like a wave on the ocean,
I blow as aimless as the wind.

I am different from ordinary people.
I drink from the Great Mother's breasts.

You lost me there
I just want to dream, man, nothing else
Theres nothing here for me

What is the boundless ocean?

If someone is willing to pay you for your knowledge or help with realising something for themselves, and you NEED the money, then charge for your time (on a sliding scale)
Can't help more people if you're dead.

You *are* dreaming. That's the point. Hmm. I recommend you read "Illusions" by Richard Bach and "The Politics of Experience" by R.D. Laing. That is, if you want to understand. Most people don't. We ultimately get what we want, since we stop at the point we think we deserve. It may be you think you deserve torment and the feeling of being trapped. But if you don't, I suggest those two books.

The inner sea, the surface of which is self. Break below the self and you find endless depths.

What is it like to experience your ego death? I know it's a sought after state that offers enlightenment, but why would you have to let go of the sense of self in order delve into deeper mind states

My mind's gate isn't doing its thing, what can I do?

Because the ego-self isn't real. It's an illusion, a mask we manufacture to hide our faces from the world. The Shadow is the negative image cast by the conscious identity, all the things we consider wrong and evil and dark. It is also much closer to our true nature, and is why we find these things so terrible when we find them in others.

Learning to be able acknowledge, recognize, and look directly at the Shadow is hard, and is the path of the Jungian. The final step for a Jungian to achieving unity is accepting the Shadow as part of you, looking into everything hateful and awful about yourself, and being able to show yourself mercy and compassion. It's the hardest thing any human being can do.

>You *are* dreaming
That’s pretty meaningless
You know what I mean, please don’t act like I don’t know what I mean
>since we stop at the point we think we deserve
>think
That’s the part I don’t want to have anything to do with

No one is interested in paying for the tools for self-knowledge. Those wise enough to want them don't need to pay for them.

The problem is that the kind of things people *will* pay for are the sorts of things the Archons reserve as secret proprietary knowledge, like manifesting demons. They're little more than parlour tricks, but they can be dangerous both to oneself and others, and I am loath to start treading the path of the magician, of Will -- or offering succor to those who do.

Have you taken the heroic dose and gone for a visit with the machine elves?

I don't know your heart. Only you do. I can give you tools for finding your own internalized teachers, the wise and ancient selves hard-coded into the collective unconscious, who can show you your own golden path of least resistance, but no one can actually follow that path but you. And anyone who says they can is trying to sell you a book.

Does suicide lead anywhere?

What? 5 grams does not do that.

Nowhere useful. Pain is coinage. Think of pain as pennies which can be accumulated; when you have enough, you can make nickels. Then those nickels can be exchanged for dimes. All the way up to gold, when you can start learning to manifest the Rebis.

The reason pain exists is to act as a limitless source of spiritual money. If you're drowning in pain, start converting it. Learn the spiritual alchemy needed to transform it into higher forms of metal.

If pain is pennies I’m not so sure if I want nickels or quarters
Sounds pretty hellish

Five grams is the generally agreed upon amount of psilocybin mushrooms to equate to the heroic dose. It's of course dependent on the strength of the mushrooms and your personal susceptibility. Good rule of thumb: if five grams isn't enough, take more.

Well don't teach the demon stuff...
There are plenty of people who are slightly woke and in need of direction. Finding them and convincing them to pay you is another.
I'll leave you with a partial quote from 'Walden'.
>I will go into business; I will weave baskets; it is a thing which I can do. Thinking that when he had made the baskets he would have done his part, and then it would be the white man’s to buy them. He had not discovered that it was necessary for him to make it worth the other’s while to buy them, or at least make him think that it was so, or to make something else which it would be worth his while to buy.

Do what thou wilt. We live in a Universe with free will. Your life is a notebook. Every day the page turns and you get a fresh page. You can use it to take notes, or to create art, or to compose dirty limericks, or even to rip it out and wipe your ass with it. You can even leave it blank. But tomorrow that page is going to turn again, and one day you'll fiind the pages are done and you've reached the back cover. And whatever you did with those blank pages, that was your life.

I offer you in exchange another quotation from Walden: "Trade curses everything it handles; and though you trade in messages from Heaven, the whole curse of trade attaches to the business."

Recently, I've been reading about Hermeticism and alchemy. What books would you say impacted your development the most?

Also, what drugs (if any) have you found to assist you in your journey? I've found some, myself, and would like to know if there is any overlap in our experience, or if there are any new paths to go down.

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True that.
I was the basket maker (well glass blower but ssdd)
Then a cannabis farmer as if that didn't have enough stigma already attached to trading for money (land food etc)
I feel the desire to keep spiritual stuff separate from monetary improvement. Keep it up or find your line of 'compromise'.
Gnight mang.

what are your thoughts on hermeticism? Do you view the kybalion as legitimate and/or rooted in the corpus, or seperate entirely?

posted then saw this - different poster.

Can you explain this? 5G just made patterns amazing, colors would appear, things would melt. And holy shit carpet dude.

I'm a Jungian mystic, so I graze pretty widely and follow the psychological model of magick. People often ask for a reading list in these threads, so I should probably develop a list I can just copy and paste. For the record, though, these are the books I've found especially meaningful or helpful; YMMV.

- Man and his Symbols, by Carl Jung
- The Red Book, by Carl Jung
- Character Analysis, by Wilhelm Reich
- Interpretation of Dreams, by Sigmund Freud
- Origin of Consciousness in the Breakdown of the Bicameral Mind, by Julian Jaynes
- Illusions, by Richard Bach
- The Emperor's New Mind, by Sir Roger Penrose
- Shadows of the Mind, by Sir Roger Penrose
- the Illuminatus Trilogy, by Robert Anton Wilson
- Syntactic Structures, by Noam Chomsky
- Amusing Ourselves to Death, by Neil Postman
- Dhammapada, by Siddhartha Gautama
- Tao Te Ching, by Lao Tzu

out of curiosity, have you looked at jordan perterson's maps of meaning?

What country are you in? I think I have seen your thread like 5? times but its always like way after midnight lol

Every paradigm is a lie: ceci n'est pas une pipe. Or, as Zen master D.T. Suzuki put it, "To point at the moon a finger is needed, but woe to those who take the finger for the moon."

To make matters worse, the Archons have systematically hunted down true schools and their teachers and destroyed them one by one. Truth, even when told, has to be hidden under layers of window dressing, metaphor, and outright bullshit, told through subtext. You have to develop the ability to see through the text to its true meaning.

Because of The Golden Bough, hermeticism is under direct scrutiny by the Archons, so it has to be especially obtuse and circumspect not only in what it reveals, but how it reveals it.

Jordan Peterson is the poster boy for the difference between knowledge and wisdom. As the Tao Te Ching puts it, "To understand others is knowledge; to understand oneself is true wisdom. To conquer an army is strength; to conquer oneself is true power."

I maintain as much anonymity as I can. The sacred truths I discuss in these threads are considered to be proprietary knowledge by the powers and principalities who rule this world, and they are not especially forgiving.

I'm fairly familiar with its history, but do you think it has a place in modern society? I feel like I've found a wealth of knowledge that should be more openly discussed, yet nobody I've ever met has even heard of it.
Then again, that could be because I didn't go to college, and am instead opting to pursue an existence in music...

It's been actively suppressed. Secret societies like the Skull & Bones and the Freemasons use The Golden Bough as a guide for developing the shamanic techniques used to manifest demons, and The Golden Bough draws heavily from hermeticism. As a result, the Archons keep it out of general public awareness, lest others learn their secrets are not all that secret.

It's also why the Archons encourage the Sleepers to hate andor fear the shamanism and the occult.

Do you believe that the more you believe in archons, and in particular the more you looks for or acknowledge them, the more they manifest in you?

What you look at becomes stronger, yes. We all contain the same Goetic archetypes which manifest in the Archons, and the more time you spend thinking about them, the stronger they get. It's why Nietzsche warns, "Battle not with monsters lest you become a monster, and when you gaze into the Abyss, the Abyss gazes also into you."

Why dont you try to make a living by being a fortune teller? This role after all is to act as a mirror like you always do and you are already familiar with tarot etc.

The problem with fortune telling is no one wants actual useful readings. The kind of people who visit tarot readers don't want to explore their psyche and confront their deepest existential terrors; they want someone wearing a lot of jewelry to tell them they're going to win the lottery and have a romance. Fake tarot readers make lots of money; real ones starve.

Thank you - that helps.

How do you feel you recognize when you are under the influence of one, and how do you remedy?

Anything very important not to do...think more beginning tips then the obvious.

I suppose I do have to ask the obvious question: if you have the ability to manifest demons and servitors, how can you have health or financial troubles? Do the demons lack medical skills? Are the servitors unwilling to counterfeit money or rob a bank for you? Or in other words, is the path so esoteric that, when push comes to shove, it can't solve practical issues on its own?

>As a mystic who follows the female path, I have avoided monetizing my skills, as exchange in any form is male in nature
Yeah no, fuck off. Don't even need to read anything to know that you are a fake and a beggar. Get better bait, the Pic is a good start.

What kind of gay shit is going down here?

Attachments are tricky. There's a Buddhist parable you might find useful:

Two monks, master and student, are out walking and they come across an old woman trying to cross a stream. The master carries her across and then the two monks continue their walk.

The student thinks for a time and then asks, "Master, you know we're forbidden to touch women. Why did you carry that woman?"

The master replies, "I put her down on the other side. Why are you still carrying her?"

As the American psycho put it:"Why don't you get a job?...in all seriousness if you are able bodied why can't you just get a normal 9-5 job..is it so difficult in your country?

I *can* manifest demons. That doesn't mean that I do so. Or at least, not often, and generally not intentionally. And these entities are not supernatural, they're atomized elements of your own personality, your specific interpretation of universal archetypal narratives coded into human DNA (or Sheldrake's morphic field depending on one's preference in terms of genetic model).

I can manifest a servitor to wake me at a particular time, in essence creating a simple fictional character inside my head which will run parallel to my own sense of identity, whose only function and desire is to monitor the passing of time while I sleep and then wake me up at a specific time. Demons and other forms of tulpa are more useful, but also more dangerous to manifest, as they can get out of control and either take over as your ego-self or simply crash the whole machine in jagged, explosive madness.

Either way, it's not especially useful for a mystic who tries to follow the path of water, of passive receptivity to the Tao. Manifesting Goetic archetypes is how the Archons rise to power, something in which I have no interest. I need to pay for medical supplies, not manipulate my way to high political office.

Yes - I do need to work on that. Too much fire, not enough air lately.

Earth is also a female element - is it not? Find something receptive or creative and I would bet you would be able to stir up some earth without projecting or reflecting. Helpful or fruitless?

Hello Jungian Mystic.

I have done today my first lesser vanishing ritual of the pentagram guided by a YouTube video and to be honest I feel great and it gave me a lot of energy and peace.

After that I did some yoga and meditated and I feel like it was a positive experience.
My question is that instead of saying the sacred names I just thought of them in mind and vibrated my throat. Is that something that's acceptable or should I really follow the classic approach.

I was recently thinking of joining the O.T.O, I contacted my local lodge and they replied back but I dont know why I havent gone through with it.

I'm want to have people to talk about magick and ritual magick and to learn but I'm afraid of the structure of it. What do you think?

I have a porn and masturbation addiction, usually performing solo sex magick rituals over subjects. I want to end this curse. How?

I sincerely hope, that your health problems get solved and you can continue on helping people. Taking the time to post here is something that I really appreciate.

Thank you!

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I've been in a period of stillness and patience, waiting for a new phase of my life to begin. What finally arrived was an emergency trip to the hospital by ambulance and a long recovery in a hospital bed. Not at all what I was expecting, but that's generally how it goes.

Now I'm wondering which lesson I'm supposed to learn from this, whether this is a test to see how deep my commitment runs, or whether this is the way the Tao is guiding me to a more active role. I don't want to reveal too much about myself here, but I can say that I've been scraping by through creative endeavours, and they're not going to be enough to deal with the considerable medical expenses I'm facing.

I really don't want to sell dangerous spiritual tools to people who are going to harm themselves or others with them; that seems like some horrible karma. But am I being guided to do so as part of some larger pattern?

Well supernatural is already a weird term: something can only be supernatural if it doesn't exist, since if it did exist it would be called natural. At the same time, paying for medical services and supplies doesn't imply rising to high political office. That's just, as the say, the slippery slope fallacy.
So I guess the next obvious question is, is fear of yourself the only thing stopping you from solving these problems yourself?

Is the visualisation of internal worlds also a part of the male path? I was under the impression that the male path is related to control over the external world, whereas "internal world", by definition seems not to be related to exerting power over the material. I've been delving into this practice recently (on my own terms, following intuition more than anything else), and I see it as an opportunity to sever attachments to the material and not be distracted by the temptations and frustrations of fulfilling desires in the material world, instead using my time in this world to focus on growth instead.

Also, are the male and female paths really that distinct from each other? Are they static, discrete natures or is there a dialectic between them, do they flow into each other and transform depending on the angle you view something from?

One more question: the alchemical literature states: "ignis et azoth tibi sufficunt" (azoth and fire will be sufficient for you). I've come to the conclusion that azoth is a zen-like state of mind where all mental constructs, frameworks and prejudices are "dissolved". But I'm not sure what the "fire" is. The literature says it's related to Venus (but not its common, reversed form). I'm thinking maybe it's something akin to the Buddhist notion of "metta".

I remember you replying to someone complaining about sex addiction maybe a year ago or so in one of these threads, and your response really stuck with me since then. Unfortunately, I only vaguely remember the idea and I would appreciate it if you could explain it again in your words.
To paraphrase, you mentioned that when sexual references are made in mystical literature, such as the male principle uniting with the female, the point was not that these images are meant to be perceived as inspired and derived from real physical sex, but rather that physical sex itself was a mere substitute, a crude imitation of the symbolic unification of male and female principles in a person's psyche. So the obsession with sex was really an expression for the soul's obsession with individuation, with uniting with the female principle within him.

And in conjunction with this, I would like to follow up my question about creating/visualising internal worlds I was thinking of using an internal world to explore sexual fancies and possibly use this to work on manifesting and knowing the female principle in me, in your language. I've already noticed how I am able to "raise" sexual energy into higher and baser forms depending on how I contextualise them and what imagery I focus on, and how changes in the nature of this mental imagery are reflections of changes in the patterns of sensation I feel in my physical body.
To what extent is a visualised imaginary female character (a succubus, if you will, and if I'm not mistaken) a manifestation of the anima, or an approximation to such? Isn't that the point you made to the person with sex addiction? It could be interpreted to mean that a person obsessed with porn or sex is really seeking a tangible manifestation of his anima.

The reason we say things out loud is that it moves the locus of our awareness closer to material related to the words we used. It's why psychoanalysts are listening more to how you say things than what you're saying. Choosing words is something we do unconsciously, so by speaking out loud we're priming the unconscious to move our conscious awareness into the area of the warehouse where those files are located. Speaking out loud is the easiest way to ensure your intentionality is pure, but no, it's not strictly necessary. Generally we just speak out loud because it's the most sure way, and it costs nothing and takes no extra time, so why not?

If you're following the path of Beth up the tree, then the OTO can be useful, but I think you've intuitively understood that the magickian's path of Will is fraught with struggle, conflict, and drama. The strength of the male is you get what you want, but the weakness of the male is also that you get what you want. What we want and what we need are rarely the same.

Have you ever tried practising wei wu wei, following the female route of receptivity to see what gifts the Universe offers you, which you can then accept without cost? My experience is they never take you anywhere you want to go, but they ALWAYS take you where you need to be.

Thank for your reply.

I think that the O.T.O scares me a little bit because of the commitment and I might just need to find people that I can share my ideas with.

Could you explain what wei wu wei is?

This helps me for my sex addiction, my problems is that I don't know how to focus my sexual energy, I cannot think about anything else.

And I'm gonna do the ritual tomorrow morning saying it out loud. :)

To be honest, I'm not quite sure. I've always wondered what my visceral reaction would be when I was facing death in the face. When I was facing imminent death in the back of an ambulance, my existential response bubbled up as: "Oh well." No fear, no excitement, no anticipation or even dread. Just a resigned "oh well."

My intuition tells me that this is part of the lesson I'm supposed to learn, but this unexpected reaction tells me there are selves I have not yet met, and I decided to cast my confusion out into the world to see what I get back.

"Do what thou wilt" also applies to the female path. The difference between the paths is in the narrative. To make my point clear, the horse is moving the cart but the whip is moving the horse. Doing means following the river of insticts and being passive is also an action.

>This helps me for my sex addiction, my problems is that I don't know how to focus my sexual energy, I cannot think about anything else.

I have a very similar issue, except I am sometimes able to transmute cravings for sex into forms of non-sexual intimacy.
Have you tried experimenting with non-ejaculatory orgasms, circulating sexual energy, achieving full-body orgasms?
It's not quite the same as transmuting sexual energy into non-sexual, but something tells me it could be an intermediary step. I've been exploring this avenue for a while and I've noticed that there is a greater and longer-lasting satisfaction upon reaching these "higher" kinds of sexual relief which bring longer-term satisfaction and less frustration/craving.
Perhaps these states can be used to learn how to further transmute the energy into yet higher forms.

Also, just out of interest, do you indulge in your sex obsession with a partner or by yourself? Your answer might help me understand a little more about this, since I hardly have any experience satisfying these desires with a partner. Don't answer if you're uncomfortable sharing this.

Visualization is a singularly important skill for both the male and female, though it may be used for very different functions. For the female, it's used for exploration of the inner sea, for conceptualizing the spiritual landscape in a way which can be explored the same way we explore physical space. For the male, it's used to craft a design, a kind of blueprint which can be moved into the physical, a way of purifying intention and manifesting Will to act on the physical and over the Will of others.

And yes, as the Tao Te Ching says, "True words sound paradoxical." Not that they are paradoxes, just that they sound that way as a result of our need to create dichotomies. That's just how we think. We create male and female as a way of conceptualizing, of comparing one thing against another thing, but ultimately they exist on the same continuum and can be united wholly in the Rebis.

As for the nature of Azoth and fire, I... would rather not discuss that. The problem is this particular paradigm makes the Archons nervous, as they draw their own ceremonial processes for manifesting Goetic narratives from it. I was approached many years ago and made the standard offer, and declined. I have been allowed to toil in obscurity, but once they know you've seen the fnords you are never really out of their sight. I try not to get them too excited by sharing what they regard as proprietary knowledge. I use different paradigms to express the same essential truths.

What do you think about non binary people?

Thank you for the reply.

I usually do it ritualistic on my own and not as often with my partner. If I dont do it on my own I usually wake up during the night and start sleep touching and engaging my partner, sometimes I remember and sometimes not.

She does not mind and let it happens, its like I get possessed about it.

How do you achieve non ejaculatory orgasms? Is it basically controlling your prostate and contracting the anal muscles or I'm misguided?

Also, lately my sexual magick has been trying to get me to engage in a ritualistic homosexual masturbation with a partner, I feel conflicted about this.

You can, likewise, always refuse medical services. If you were incapacitated and didn't have instructions in place, then sure, the system will generally work to save you regardless. But I get the feeling that there was more going on here.
It sounds like you decided not to decide, at least up until now. And now that you have to decide for real, with real stakes, the easy answers (i.e., the appeals to authority) aren't cutting it. All I can say, and I say this with full irony, is to man up, that maturity is deciding. That following authorities is lazy, even when one puts a lot of work into following.

Be very, very clear on what you're doing. The Hindu and Buddhist practice of meditation may look identical, for example, but they follow diametrically opposed paths to achieve what could be considered the same goal.

The Hindu is attempting to raise Kundalini, to force it to climb the spine and focus visceral sexual and aggressive energies into the higher chakras to be transformed into spiritual power. It is a way of denying the physicality of the body to connect with the Ataman, the Godhead within us.

For the Buddhist, it is about centering within the body, about accepting all drives, all motivations without judgement or shame, placing no special weight on one thing over another and simply accepting what is. The Gautama Buddha, when asked what being a Buddha is like, answered, "It's to sit before a wall and see just a wall."

You need to be clear within yourself which path you're following. Yes, what you're saying is entirely possible and feasible. The Anima is more than happy to act as a sexual partner (as is the Animus), to engage in roleplay, at least in my own experience. I am asexual, but my Anima is frequently flirtatious and often sets up sexual situations in my dreams. Interestingly, she rarely does so when I'm lucid, and never when I'm manifesting her consciously.

Remember that the Anima is probably the second-most complex narrative after the Shadow, and that she includes everything from Mother Mary to Babalon.