I'm a trans individual who has been on Sup Forums for years...

I'm a trans individual who has been on Sup Forums for years. I've yet to see any definitive proof that anything which is largely accepted by the trans community is bad for them, and I'm here to address these issues.

Let's get a hot topic out of the way first: gender reassignment surgery is as necessary for individuals experiencing severe gender dysphoria as chemo would be for a cancer patient. Yes, some people still unfortunately kill themselves. But, every single person who undergoes surgery who doesnt is a person whose life is saved. It is not cosmetic, it is life saving.

Secondly, estrogen is not bad for your mind or body in any way as an assigned-at-birth male. There is zero scientific evidence that it is. This is baseless and only serves to scare people away from taking the medicine they need

Third: it can be "too late to change". I am 37 and I only began hrt 5 years ago. Within two years I was visually passing and now my voice sounds indistinguishable from any other woman's.

Finally, that it is bad for children to transition. Most children have no issue with this and think it's cool to know a trans individual. And giving children estrogen does in fact make it easier on them psychologically to go through their lives as a woman. There is zero evidence that any child has experienced adverse effects growing up compared to non-trans children.

I will talk to anyone about any of these things. I'm just sick of seeing baseless bullshit spewed about us on this board. Seeing that stuff early on in my transition made me think about some things I never want to think about again. And anyone who posts pictures of girls who are having trouble passing is participating in psychological abuse.

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Kill yourself

Join the 41%

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Nigger

My heart goes out for you people truly. But how do you divide yourself from someone suffering from a serious problem and someone who wants attention?

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HAPPENING!!!!!!!!
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All rights are human rights, we made them up. Reminds me of the black lives matter shit. No shit your life matters. No one said it didn't. The only reason people make this shit up is to argue, or coax people into feeling insecure.

Go Back, then kill yourself. Your parents hate you, god hates you, and Sup Forums hate you.

Fuck off retarded piece of shit, How the fuck can you think that children transitioning is fine, you fucking pedo

Context?

Based

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Do you fucking idiots not see that this is some group pushing an agenda? It's literally just spam text.

You can usually tell the ones who want attention straight off, they pick a ridiculous or made up name, wear stupid outfits (not talking about bad fashion sense, I mean intentionally wearing clothes that aren’t supposed to be worn together) and put no effort into looking feminine.

Not this retard again.

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Being 'transgender' is delusional thinking by any definition.

r/NeovaginaDisasters

>No one said it didn't

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Name three things I could give less of a fuck about

You are all snot-nosed mammal sauce slurping cows. All your mothers died inside. Melt your auditory cortex.

Better the trans agenda than the white agenda, honestly

>Within two years I was visually passing and now my voice sounds indistinguishable from any other woman's.
Arrogance.

Delusion strikes again.

Religion, Cults, 'Social Movements', This shit.
It's all the same

fuck off fag

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>posting tranny acceptance bullshit on Sup Forums of all websites
Are you retarded?

My my what a bait

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>i want a hole down there hurr durr
>no hole is bad i dont want hole anymore

Unlike gay rights advocates - which just wanted society to do nothing they didn't do with hetersexuals, like marriage, survivorship etc - the trans movement actively seeks to force an agenda onto the overwhelming majority of people. With gay people, we don't have to use special language. Larry is a guy. Laura is a girl. He / She.

Trans people and the whole "I'm gender fluid non-binary" blah blah blah demand that we conform to your standards, not you trying to assimilate and be an otherwise normal person. If you look like a fucking man, don't expect people to call you a woman. You're not. You have a penis. You're a transvestite. Thats fine - be you - but stop demanding WE bend the knee and conform to your choices.

Accepting trans people and treating them with a basic level of respect as you would anyone else is one thing - but demanding people and institutions use your special words, and give you special treatment because you have a mental disorder doesn't fly, and it's going to cause even the cisgendered (there's a bullshit made up word) gay people pull their support.

You demand biological males be allowed to take females jobs, compete on female sports teams, and you even have crazy fuckers that blast heterosexual men for NOT being attracted to you or wanting to fuck you because you have the wrong plumbing. "transwomen" are not women. You can never be a woman. It is biologically impossible. You can remove your penis. You will never, ever be a woman. Your DNA has you hard coded to be a male. You'll never have ovaries, a uterus, or a real vagina. Just like a "transman" will never be a man. The DNA doesn't lie, and she'll never have a real penis, never have testicles, and never produce a drop of sperm.

Until Star Trek style technology exists to re-write DNA and replicate real tissue and perform the complex surgeries needed - you're performing radical body modification due to a mental illness.

Here are the facts. You are looking for "rights" to enter into a bathroom that makes you feel like you are something you are not. You expect and demand that the world around you conform to meet your demands which is clearly a violation of their right to do and say as they please. You (as well as many people regardless of where they come from) hate Christians (and don't fucking lie. You hate them. Don't bullshit me or anyone else with that "I just want to be respected" crap. Gtfo with that.) And, as someone who believes in God, I know full well that you would rather have Christianity stomped out so you have nobody in your way to prevent you from having life your way. Well guess what? This is what people ignore all the time. It really is "US OR THEM" when it comes to life. Clearly people cannot live in harmony when disagreements abound. How anyone believes they can argue otherwise is beyond retarded. This is why I always say "It is either one way, or there is NO way." What did Christ say? "I am THE way, THE truth, and THE life." He left NO ROOM for any other path. And why? Because where disagreements afuckingbound, there is no place for lasting peace. It should be apparent to anyone with half a mind that there will come a day where every other "path" is stomped out and extinguished, paving the way for the ONLY way. We will NEVER stop fighting and killing until there is only ONE dominating force in the world. With Christianity, the Bible is very clear when it states that ALL sinners who do not come to salvation will be erased. Then there will be lasting peace. The peace will last in that world because mankind will finally come to agreement on ALL things relating to faith and life and how things ought to be. It's either one way or the highway. Why don't you tell the Muslims and the Jews to just "get along". Tell them "You can have your way and I can have mine". See how that shit blows over. IT WON'T. WORK. (May cont.)

mentally ill faggot

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Clinical psychologist here. Imma stop you right there.

Over the last 3-4 years I have had to deal with an influx of people claiming gender disphoria, To be clear this is an established mental illness.

Most of them are at the point of resassignment surgery and I explain to them the hazards and difficulty of what they undertaking.

Interestingly they do not show the classical signs of gender disphoria. This is where the brain chemistry is female but the body and sexual organs are male.

Rather they are much closer to Schizotypal personality disorder, Characterized by severe social anxiety, thought disorder, paranoid ideation, derealization, transient psychosis, and often unconventional beliefs.

They are very vunerable to peer pressure and they get that in large doases by the *ahem* red pilling* of sites like Tumblr and Reddit where they are led to believe thos who were male and transistioned to female are popular, well adjusted and find relationships and social interaction easier.

The reality is they seldom do. They find they can't achieve the impossibe standards of the trap models. this is because those people started hormones very early while also being genetically predisposed to having a feminie body type. My clients have a lot of self loathing over the fact that even after a year they don't see a change and often try tactics like fattening themselves up to aid the "breasts and ass".

Those who get the reassignment anguish over the daily dialation to keep what is an open wound from closing.

To be fair and balanced there are cases that do need it, I had one who was born genetically a female with a uterus and ovaries but in a male body, They literally could not fuction as a male sexually, IE achieve an erection.

Regardless, I urge anyone before jumping into this to do extensive research and ask yourself.
Have I always felt I was a women OR do i just feel inadequate as a male.

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The fact that you're pushing the notion of transitioning kids is sick, and is exactly what people on the right have been saying all along. As soon as gay marriage became a national thing - they warned that the next step was targeting children.

We don't let children drink or smoke weed. We don't let children get married. We don't let children enter legal binding contracts - why the fuck would we let children mutilate their bodies when they don't know what the hell is going on? There was a study recently released that shows the overwhelming majority of young people who identified as "trans" grew out of it and went back to living a normal lifestyle as their biological gender.

There is plenty of scientific data that shows that puberty blockers cause long term negative effects. Men are NOT supposed to have high levels of estrogen in their bodies, just as women are not supposed to have high levels of testosterone. These lead to health problems in the long term. Giving horomones and puberty blockers to children does have long term, life altering side effects. If the kid wants to take hormone replacement therapy when they are a legal consenting adult - ok. Life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness. If they want to play chop-shop with their body, as an adult, that's fine. Live the life that makes them happy. But not as children, because the likelihood is that its a phase. Kids experiment. They go through phases.

Until the transgender community changes its tactics and stops demanding special rights - you won't gain mainstream acceptance no matter how much the media pushes the issue. Gay people make up a single-digit percent of the population, but the media would have us believe everyone is day. Transgender people and the other dysphoric non-binary nonsense crowd make up an even tinier fraction, yet you want us to cater to your illness? No. We don't need to change language and customs to accommodate your life choice and mental condition.

Thanks trans folk, you 31 flavors of queer give me something to make fun of I don’t feel bad about.

Fuck off, society makes you feel bad, then because of your mental illness you seek treatment. Nobody cares about gender, it's all about what pheromones you're attracted to.

Yeah I like the fact that I could beat my children (hypothetically) and still be a better parent then some retard transitioning them as a child.

As both an atheist and democrat I want the people of this thread to know I agree with them that this is a major mental illness and its sick
Remember to not blame all of us for the loud retards

You've convinced me transsexuals are mentally ill on multiple levels.

Ok but the suicide rates before and after surgery are the same which means those who undergo surgery and don’t end up killing themselves afterward wouldn’t have killed themselves even if they didn’t have the surgery.. so no, surgery doesn’t save shit

Think about it. Atheists often say that they would rather all religion "disappear" or die, right? What does that sound like to you? Clearly they desire a world where THEIR worldview is the only one in existence. Strange... Sounds JUST LIKE Christianity where if you do not come to repentance, you've no room in a world where everyone else is in agreement with the way things should be. You would be viewed like a disease. A drop of poison in the well. One rotten apple to spoil the bunch. If there were only one Christian in a world that were 99% atheist, would you honestly say that they wouldn't just kill his ass and get it over with? Why permit him to live if he brings them opposition? He'd be like a little bug to them. Just crush him and throw him away so we can carry on, right? Well that is my fucking point. So any atheist arguing about "Christianity isn't fair. Everyone should just get a free pass into heaven." Really? You think that would seriously be fair? Just let you carry on being an edgy cunt and buttfucking and do WHATEVER you want and you should have the same access to a heaven men have historically DIED and suffered for? You honestly think you deserve the same access to a Heaven men were executed for? The same Heaven men have been laughed at for believing in and tormented for and mocked for? The same access to a Heaven we've been HATED for? No. That would not be fair in the least. As the Bible would say with regards to the lake of fire: "For they are worthy." And aren't most of us? I certainly don't believe I deserve to enter Heaven and I already believe in God.

You lunatics are twisted fucks. Your movement impedes the rights of normal people. Fuck you and fuck youe tiny percent of our population. We shouldnt have to change for you. I will not change for you. Youre a man taking chemicals and wearing womans clothes. A freak that only lives to poison the minds of others.

You cannot accept your most basic fundamental reality that you are born who you are born as. You turn away and you run from the most basic truth there is. You are a failure.

Fuck you all, let's make 41% go to 100%. The human race is fucked, the sooner we nuke ourselves to oblivion, the better

The lgbt community is so push, they are worse then religious cults. They push and push and exclude everyone else opinions ideas and facts. all i see is the same hate they complain about coming from the community. Fact trans people are nothing but insecure delusional people. they arnt happy with who they are so they must mutilate their bodies both physically and chemically.

Stop blaming everyone else for your mess, and start accepting who you actually are and the choices you made. No one is holding a gun to any trans person forcing them to be the mess that they are.

Hahahahaha!!! You're funny. Go ahead, keep posting on the internet. You will never be taken seriously in real life moron. If you have a Y chromosome, you're a male. Simple as that. Shut the fuck up about your "identity" you little worm. Nobody on Earth fucking cares how you "feel". Grow the fuck up you embarrassing piece of useless shit. You aren't a girl and you never will be. Idiot.

Worshiping the mentally ill is societal poison.

Sex is biological, gender is for faggots (meaning losers that think you have to dress as your 'sex').

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best is when they compare their struggle to the black struggle.

Does the band Sum 41 trigger you?

Fuck off, faggot. Go spread your brain cancer to Reddit or something.

My favorite!

kys fag

Tada! A guy talks sense and nobody has jack shit to say.

"I'm Mr Eatsdicks, look at me!" screamed Justin Roiland into the microphone, on the all-new, inclusive Rick & Morty!

That's good and all, but I'm still going to call you a faggot.

Keep it up OP, trans-gender people are the first trans-humans. There will be many more types as technology marches forward with equal or greater resistance from society. I believe that folks like you will be seen as pioneers.

t. straight married guy

Kys faggot

Hopefully tech marches forward so we can just fucking fix them. They're all pretenders who won't shut the fuck up.

They would be detected and aborted in utero.

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Whats your point?

Just think, if they had won world war 2, this kinda tranny shit wouldn't fly

I like the way you think, user!

>baseless bullshit spewed about us on this board

So just like you're doing then.

You're retarded. A child should not go through hormone therapy. It's fucking cruel. They may regret later in life.

> Hi, I'm mentally ill

danke

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Do whatever you want but when you want other people to change just to make you feel better about your illness is where youre wrong.

Atleast you wont have offspring.

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to be fair if he had won Sup Forums wouldn't exist and half you spergs wouldve been euthanized.

They can't consent to sex, but they can change their sex... makes perfect sense, eh?

Even better!

>OP

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Eh, i could do with the spergs being gone, but leave my Sup Forums alone.

"Finally, that it is bad for children to transition. Most children have no issue with this and think it's cool to know a trans individual. And giving children estrogen does in fact make it easier on them psychologically to go through their lives as a woman. There is zero evidence that any child has experienced adverse effects growing up compared to non-trans children."
It's this kind of bullshit that is why people don't like the trans community. Most children who are assumed to be trans tend to end up fine without the medicine. If they're 18+ they can then make their own decisions.

100% this.


I'm 26, born a male. I've had depression for most my life, and a large portion of that is due to the fact that I have gender dysmorephia and wish I were born a woman. But instead of getting rediculous invasive surgery and ruining my life, I decided to seek professional help, started taking anti depressants and speak with a psychiatrist regularly. I'm a dude, and I'll never be a woman, it's literally impossible.

That's what annoys me the most bout trans people, their constant denial of reality.

the dubs of truth

Props to you, you saw the problem and worked it out logically

I applaud you for accepting who you are and being mature and responsible. Good luck Sup Forumsrother.

It's good to see that someone has the common sense to come out and say that. It's not often that one sees someone speak openly about the problems in their own communities.

you should goto colleges and explain your story and make trans people feel like retards

Yup, but they keep pushing for fucking up kids and poisoning minds.

I'm proud of you! You thought for yourself and find the truth!

no, most would just grow up to be gay... this is only a thing because identity politics culture is very similar to the inverted narcissism that is at the core of the politically motivated queer personality style... its a way to compel people to react to your private pyschology.. a psychological issue with a political "solution".. its part of the march towards totalitarian morality that is ruining culture and invasively imposing things on people's beliefs: you are just another proto-fascist promoter of the conceptualization and categorization of life by identity.

fascism was also called a mental illness by its detractors, it's about controlling society by hijacking the narrative and making it an orthodoxy. There is no difference between your cherry picked dogma and the Catholic Church. the only trans people I respect are those with libertarian political consciousness, because they are not doing it for the narccistic levers of manipulative control, of forcing their relativism on other people.

your toxic culture is what is largely fabricating this condition, rot in hell with your fascist cultural preferences, and let boys and girls grow up to be homosexual, don't force drugs and surgery onto them.

how can a mentall illness and a hormone imbalance be a human? lmao just take testosterone pills and youre good. just take on pants and cut your hair lmao. you're not a lesbian man who wants to be a woman and therefore are one. you want to be a chick, but who doesn't sometimes. stop whining and dont take your curiosity to far. I want to be a bear but im stuck in this human body. I dont complain and act like one. normal people with a grip on reality love themselves for who they are, not for the one they want to be, but cant.

forching me to use certain words or face public humiliation and discrimination is not a human right, its taking away my right to freedom of speech.

While i would allow people with severe gender dysphoria to change gender, it brings in a whole other can of worms, like people claiming they are gender fluid, people inventing new genders and real life effects like forcing you to build a third bathroom if you dont want a digital execution when you start a business of any sort.

I know, and that's why people hate the trans community.

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Sounds like a good plan for globalist world domination if you ask me!

no one asked you

I don't care.

I did, you just didn't hear me

that's obvious

all trans end up doing it. without any help, their population will diminish as they don't procreate and spread the gene responsible for their condition because they all kill themselves or die like they are, with no gf or child biologically theirs

Shut up halfie, you don't count.

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It's not mental illness, it's pure sexually driven delusion. It reminds me of seeing a toddler dress as a policeman and tell their mothers "Look! I'm a policeman!" and the mother laughs it off knowing he isn't. The hyper-sexualized nature of our society pushes people to be more unique in the bedroom to consider themselves worthy of a mate. How else can someone grow more unique in the bedroom than merging sexual assumptions of gender together? It's a taboo kink that most consider "inspiring" or "brave," at least in the US. But imagine if you will, that this delusion goes further than that. With all the drugs in your body causing (researched and documented) hormonal imbalances, mental instability is naturally a symptom, and this state of mind can almost lead to a fever-dream type state in which the only thing the trans-person in question can think about is hyper-feminizing/emasculating themselves to the absolute extreme. It's like getting your first tattoo or video game, you want more and more of it unless you can control yourself. That's what trans-people do when they realize that the happy pills are making them more girly - they overdo it to the extreme.
>and then to see it all spread like wildfire, an ideology based off of obsession and attempting to change what the lord already made perfect, you can't help but feelbadman

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yeah thats now how it works...
we've had faggots forever and they dont reproduce either, with more people we will also get more freaks.

True, they also die early from surgery complications.