I'm a trans individual who has been on Sup Forums for years. I've yet to see any definitive proof that anything which is largely accepted by the trans community is bad for them, and I'm here to address these issues.
Let's get a hot topic out of the way first: gender reassignment surgery is as necessary for individuals experiencing severe gender dysphoria as chemo would be for a cancer patient. Yes, some people still unfortunately kill themselves. But, every single person who undergoes surgery who doesnt is a person whose life is saved. It is not cosmetic, it is life saving.
Secondly, estrogen is not bad for your mind or body in any way as an assigned-at-birth male. There is zero scientific evidence that it is. This is baseless and only serves to scare people away from taking the medicine they need
Third: it can be "too late to change". I am 37 and I only began hrt 5 years ago. Within two years I was visually passing and now my voice sounds indistinguishable from any other woman's.
Finally, that it is bad for children to transition. Most children have no issue with this and think it's cool to know a trans individual. And giving children estrogen does in fact make it easier on them psychologically to go through their lives as a woman. There is zero evidence that any child has experienced adverse effects growing up compared to non-trans children.
I will talk to anyone about any of these things. I'm just sick of seeing baseless bullshit spewed about us on this board. Seeing that stuff early on in my transition made me think about some things I never want to think about again. And anyone who posts pictures of girls who are having trouble passing is participating in psychological abuse.
>let's have a talk >only say things i want you to say or you're evil and you seriously can't understand why people don't fucking want you or your kind around
Caleb Gray
tolerance OR ELSE
Joseph Hill
Having the ability to produce sperm and fertilise a womans egg makes you a man. Having the ability to produce an egg that can be fertilised by a man and result in a baby makes you a woman.
Please find something else to focus on (apart from climate change)
Nolan Sanchez
why is it not good enough to just be gay? are you that homophobic that you have to mutilate yourself into something youre not and never will be just to admit you want some dick?
It’s a mental illness and everything said just solidifies it.
Isaiah Anderson
43% of pre and post op trannies commit suicide, but yes please continue to tell us how there's nothing bad going on here and that this shit is totally normal.
I'm dating a transgirl but here's the kicker both her and I agree no one's life matters olny a retard can't think for themselves and joins a movement it doesn't matter who's in office because $$$ finance ultimately rules everything and she might not agree with me but it's the Jews in the end
Probably because you folks are wildly confused and nobody loves you faggots.
Do us a favor. Join that 41% nigger.
Jason Hall
Ok retard
Liam Smith
LMAO you must be sick of yourself as you are the one spewing senseless bullshit. Have fun killing yourself regardless if you choose to mutilate yourself or not.
Angel Barnes
found the incel
Nathaniel Sullivan
>trans >girl Pick one
Angel Roberts
Or else you will kill yourself?
Nobody tolerates niggers and they don't suicide, they just kill each other.
Daniel Jones
Honestly as long as my taxes don’t pay for it I don’t give a single fuck.
Adrian Bennett
Trans rights hurt lesbians.
Luke Rogers
in ten thousand years do you think the people digging up your bones will care what clothes you wore or what pronouns you wanted? they're gonna look at your bone density, categorize you as a dysfunctional male, and move on with their study
Thomas Bell
Your right I dont give a crap if some retarded kid wants to turn himself into a woman as long as im not paying
Hunter Clark
hurrr this guy disagrees with me he must be an incel hurrr everything im saying is right because i heard it from contrapoints hurrr
> Secondly, estrogen is not bad for your mind or body in any way as an assigned-at-birth male. There is zero scientific evidence that it is. This is baseless and only serves to scare people away from taking the medicine they need
There are very few studies done about HRT in regards to trans people, but there are studies done that shows there is proof that HRT with estrogen is linked to men and breast cancer >cite your source I'm too lazy. Google it if you want. HRT Men cancer. You'll find it soon enough
Dominic Thompson
Cancer is treated with chemo, not pretending its something else that won't kill you.
Brayden Jones
clearly you hate women
Connor Thomas
TESTrogen
Cameron Bailey
clearly you hate involuntary celibates
Aiden Ramirez
im not even the guy who made the comment you replied to. You're just another lunatic who is no better than the guys who 𝘢ctu𝘢lly hate women with the emotionally charged bs you constantly spout out
Juan Gutierrez
I'm certainly not one who thinks they can tell people how to live. I would like to think I have a "live and let live" mentality. My issue is when it comes to kids that we start normalizing and promoting transgenderism. Conversion therapy was just made illegal in most states for good reason. How is this any different?
Kayden Lewis
Jail time should be mandatory if you use incorrect and hateful pronouns.
Michael Brown
its almost as if constant harassment has a negative effect on mental health...
Hunter Walker
I found an interesting video where an MtF trans girl was talking about how much easier her life would have been if she was "just a gay male". Your argument is a strawman.
Zachary Evans
No shit its a mental illness, do you go around shaming people with anxiety or depression? Those are mental illness'.
Levi Butler
Our planet will have died a heat death by then. Nab.
Brayden Johnson
If a schizo thinks he's a cat, that's fine but I'm not playing along with it.
Cooper Harris
Man = adult human male
Woman = an adult human female
It literally does
Evan Cooper
I know this is fake the moment you said "Gender Dysphoria" because that indicates some kind of mental disorder and trans people are against admitting or even suggesting that they have a mental disorder. The biggest problem the west has is people speaking on the behalf of other people.
Blake Baker
Shut the fuck up, this is Sup Forums.
Leo Ortiz
Why? Will your big defiant show of intolerance solve the schizophrenics problems? Or make their mental state worse?
Justin Rogers
You've seen no "proof" that you accept, you just have your own preconceived opinions and only accept "proof" that will support what you already believe. You offer up your anecdotal opinions with no "proof" either, but we're supposed to accept you at your word.
Here's the reality, you don't pass and you don't sound like a woman nor will you ever be one. You're gross, dude, and people by and large will only tolerate your existence at best. Either keep your shit opinions to yourself and just behave as close to a normal person, or add to the 41% and save the rest of us having to endure you.
Easton Kelly
Because I refuse to engage in the delusions of others. Just like I won't pretend the pope has power over my life. I literally do not give a fuck about their mental state. I do not want to interact with mentally ill people.
Alexander Thomas
OP is a faggot who doesn't understand the word definition of "trans" as "in between".
When migrating from one sex to another, shut the fuck up about it, you filthy degenerate.
>Just like I won't pretend the pope has power over my life. kek
Luke Clark
found the Roastie/Soyboy i said Gender doesn´t matter on the internet, not "fuck women" you inbred braindead soylent redditor
Andrew Phillips
found the mentally ill white knight
Julian Torres
It is so adorbz you think you're people!
Samuel Hernandez
>gender reassignment surgery is as necessary for individuals experiencing severe gender dysphoria as chemo would be for a cancer patient. Yes, some people still unfortunately kill themselves. But, every single person who undergoes surgery who doesnt is a person whose life is saved. It is not cosmetic, it is life saving. By that logic anyone who doesn't die from falling off a cliff has had their life saved by the cliff.
Anthony Lewis
It's the terminology and language that is convoluted. It allows and facilitates the delusional thinking. There is no such thing as being "assigned at birth". If you could accept this fact the dysphoria would be less painful. If you are born with a penis you are indeed a male. A newborn is not yet influenced by society or sexuality. Because LGBTQ has invented it's own language to reinterpret or redefine behavioral conditions they in turn create the delusion. Instead of honestly embracing their abnormalities in their sexual behavior they seek to make their abnormalities appear normal. Transgender is not a physical malady that requires surgical correction it is a psychological malady that requires mental health intervention.
Chase Perry
It's a life saving cliff you see
Ethan Morris
OK FUCK IT! GIVE THEM ALL THE STUPID SURGERY!! THEYLL EITHER STFU AND MOVE ON AS THEIR CORRECT GENDER OR THEYLL OFF THEMSELVES AND STFU SO WIN/WIN RIGHT?
Hunter Moore
>it's almost as if Ok go back to r*ddit >the weak point Most people go through bullying and harrassment, you need help. You do not need to be encouraged, you need to be told you're autistic.
Gavin Scott
Each snowflake is unique and therefore special asshole
Carter Cook
It's nobody else's business but yours who you have sex with, or what you do with your own body. But at the same time, I've seen videos of trannies and gays sucking each others dicks and fisting each other at pride parades in broad daylight. I've seen photos of such activities with children present. Nevermind sexuality or personal choice, that's just indecent. If straight people did that in front of kids, they'd go to jail.
Media will push and publicize that kind of behavior as long as it generates views, clicks, and ad revenue. It's up to individuals and families to collectively draw the line as far as what's acceptable.
everyone on this thread wants you to kill yourself. why dont you write us a 3 page essay on why you haven't yet?
Jaxon Adams
Do trans people pee out of their bum because their dick was cut off?
Andrew Sullivan
Why do you seriously expect people to see it as normal to have a section of your leg skin rolled up and stitched over your vagina or a metal ice cream scoop taken to a guys crotch? All the power to you but it's fucking weird as shit and seems like a really stupid bandaid solution to make such extreme changes to your body especially when the result is a complete farce compared to the real thing. I truly don't believe this makes people any happier 5 years after the surgery when the shit rots off their body.
dont you fucking dare compare being trans to having cancer. Cancer is a physical diesiease that kjills you, trans is just a mental illness which is extremefied by wingnuts in the lgbtq2+ community. GENDER DOESNT DEEFINE HOW YOU ACT. you can act like a girl and be male, and if you try to support the notion you should be trans to act a certain way, fuck you you piece of shit.
Daniel Howard
Catch HIV and die fag!! Feel sorry for your father!
I am totally fine with gay and lesbians and bisex people, they're fine. I am not fine with degenerate mentally sick people who think they can be "gender fluid" and/or that butchering their genitals and their body is totally fine and we should not only approve but encourage them. Fuck trans people, you can do what you want with your body but don't ask me to approve your madness, you're just destroying your body with surgery and hormones. And you're fuckin pathetic and ridiculous.
Lucas Cook
you will never know how it feels to have a man hold you while his seed seeps into your uterus and then several months later feel his caress on your belly as his baby inside kicks
You know? As an unirironic National Socialist. Nothing really gives me more hope for the success of my movement then fucks like you. I mean it was hard 20 years ago to convince people of the culturally cancerous nature of degeneracy when you all just wanted to "get married and live your lives" But now that you're talking about cutting kids dicks off and post birth abortions? Well. Its good that you're showing your colors to the general public. Nothing can stop us now. The World is Sick. But /we/ are the Doctors.
Will telling them that their delusions are real solve their problems or make them any better?
Adrian Rivera
1. Gender reassignment surgery is unnecessary because gender dysphoria can be treated with medication
2.Estrogen can sterilize you
3. Trannys starting at any age look gross and you will never be passing to anyone with a three digit IQ
4. Kill yourself, faggot
David Bell
>Should I go to the ER from the giant gaping wounds from recent surgery?
Kinda what I'd suspect from someone who fell for the gender surgery meme
Parker Powell
Also a solid point. Why is their well-being our concern?
The issue is the kids, though.
Jaxon Kelly
Imagine some dude seeing two options: take this tourettes medication or cut off dick, and he chooses the latter
And the doctor signs off on it, wtf is wrong with the psych field these days
Charles Davis
Reddit.
David Peterson
They're a bit too eager to encourage it without digging into alternatives. Because you know if you don't 100% support it unquestionably then you are a bigot.
Owen Russell
It's almost as if that's your problem for being a tranny.
Julian Bell
Post ass?
Luke Walker
>Within two years I was visually passing and now my voice sounds indistinguishable from any other woman's
no, people are just polite or confused. you sound and look odd, i promise
Ryan Sanders
Agreed, these trannies take "tolerance" as proof that they made a good decision with their life and that they're totally "passing" when normal people are just trying to go about their day and don't need to get yelled at by fag-enablers.